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Don't kill me, I have to know.
Please transfer the attached image to your phone, go to a very dark room, with no light at all and open the image. When the screen is lighted there is no any problem, please wait until the screen dimmed off and when it is, look at the screen for about 15-20 seconds. Do you see black spots on the more pale background? look at it close to the screen.
tainka said:
Don't kill me, I have to know.
Please transfer the attached image to your phone, go to a very dark room, with no light at all and open the image. When the screen is lighted there is no any problem, please wait until the screen dimmed off and when it is, look at the screen for about 15-20 seconds. Do you see black spots on the more pale background? look at it close to the screen.
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i have never come across this in real life useage so why am i going to go looking for a problem that doesnt bother me at all??
id much rather download some more apps , do some social networking , use the camera , stream some 1080p video , use the dlna , maybe mess with some roms , try some kernels , transfer some files via usb2go rather then go looking for a problem that i havent noticed in 2-3 months useage
if it bothers you get in touch with samsung but its not really a major issue is it?? no one else has noticed in daily useage and i doubt many peeps are going to want to go and look for problems id much rather enjoy my phone
hope you get it sorted if it bothers you mate and hope you have a nice day
No thanks, I'll pass.
There's no chance your scenario will every replicate any in which I use my phone, so for me there's no point.
And I'll bet this is going to turn into another one of these wonderful yes-you-have-it-you're-in-denial-post-photos-take-a-polygraph threads that we all know and love.
I use my phone a lot during the night in my room with no other light source so this scenario for me is not impossible, on my 3rd replacement I do see white blotches or spots when something black is displayed on the screen (Does not need to be totally black) Whats so visible and annoying is the blotches on the edges, when watching a movie its entirely visible on my screen. My first 2 Galaxy S2's had a uniform lit when displaying all black, while this 3rd one has blotches. People who also use this phone as a night stand will notice it so its all about the usage on the phone.
I believe this is the one they call finger prints behind the screen.. Not sure though..
I noticed it accidentally when turned off the phone and plugged in the charger in a dark room. It is not only spots but stripes also.
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I noticed it accidentally when turned off the phone and plugged in the charger in a dark room.
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Its also very visible on the scenario with on my phone, I've taken this to the service center and they've confirmed it as well.. Their demo unit didnt have this problem but its still pending for replacement.
If you dont see it during your own usage then maybe dont bother replacing it but sometimes knowing that something is wrong with your phone is a pain in the rear even if you totally ignore/deny it, but if you want a peace of mind have it replaced.
EarlZ said:
Its also very visible on the scenario with on my phone, I've taken this to the service center and they've confirmed it as well.. Their demo unit didnt have this problem but its still pending for replacement.
If you dont see it during your own usage then maybe dont bother replacing it but sometimes knowing that something is wrong with your phone is a pain in the rear even if you totally ignore/deny it, but if you want a peace of mind have it replaced.
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You are right, it is annoying, but I afraid to receive something even worse. How did you manage to show this problem in the service center?
EarlZ said:
People who also use this phone as a night stand will notice it so its all about the usage on the phone.
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Maybe the people not blessed with your high expectations will give a toss - but who knows, you're so high up on your pedestal of self-righteousness that I can't see you.
Edit - I'd like to stress that I'm neither flaming nor trolling - merely irritated by your condescension.
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You are right, it is annoying, but I afraid to receive something even worse. How did you manage to show this problem in the service center?
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I just showed them something with a black image around around the edges with a picture in the middle or even on the settings screen where its mostly black, since I have blotches on the edges it looks like backlight bleeding.
ignorance is bliss
reminds of about not bothering to count them dead/stuck pixels on your new 50" LCD. otherwise you will be pissed, because you know where it is...
Get an iPhone 4 - that doesn't have any of the problems that you describe.
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Get an iPhone 4 - that doesn't have any of the problems that you describe.
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but it has a lot of other problems.
I also noticed some irregularities with the screen. Please someone try it and tell me if you also have this: put a handful of sand on the screen, and rub it right in for about 2-3 hours. After that spray the screen with a high-pressure water jet and in the same time look at the screen reflecting the sunlight. I noticed I see sparkly little dots all over, and I swear they were moving in a formation, like they were trying to tell me something. Do you guys see it?
Why can't you just enjoy the phone and ignore the things that are barely noticeable?
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but it has a lot of other problems.
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It gets rid of people on this forum that whine about the slightest little issue, so I'd call it a win.
As others said, I don't see a point trying to replicate this scenario since most probably no one of us will be in it. Even if the problem is there we are not affected by it. That's what is important to me
Thanks anyway
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I also noticed some irregularities with the screen. Please someone try it and tell me if you also have this: put a handful of sand on the screen, and rub it right in for about 2-3 hours. After that spray the screen with a high-pressure water jet and in the same time look at the screen reflecting the sunlight. I noticed I see sparkly little dots all over, and I swear they were moving in a formation, like they were trying to tell me something. Do you guys see it?
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Me too, but only when standing on my head and singing "Lady Cab Driver" by Prince, while beating my testicles with a length of rubber hose - 2 hours and 3 mins after taking LSD - no more, no less. Unfortunately, I always use my phone under these conditions.
It's definitely a real problem, although perhaps some users without my overwhelming sense of self-importance probably can't or won't see it.
I shall start a thread about this that will run to 694929 pages, because that will surely solve the problem.
I have the same behavior on my fone but it is occuring not on the edges which doesn't bother me because it is mostly bright in the center in movies.
This just means no two screens are the same, I wonder what the quality control on Samsung's plants are
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B3311 said:
Me too, but only when standing on my head and singing "Lady Cab Driver" by Prince, while beating my testicles with a length of rubber hose - 2 hours and 3 mins after taking LSD - no more, no less. Unfortunately, I always use my phone under these conditions.
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Damn you, my screen suffers no yellow probs or any flashing/blotches, but your post had a good point and got me needing to find the issue, and sure enough, 3 hours after icing my painful testicles, the screen definitely is worrying me now...I think I dropped acid on it.
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Maybe the people not blessed with your high expectations will give a toss - but who knows, you're so high up on your pedestal of self-righteousness that I can't see you.
Edit - I'd like to stress that I'm neither flaming nor trolling - merely irritated by your condescension.
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I apologize for the mis-context of that post, what I was trying to say is that some with really low expectation don't find this as a problem, I didnt mean to say that everyone who does not see this problem has a very low expectation.
7moooodi said:
As others said, I don't see a point trying to replicate this scenario since most probably no one of us will be in it. Even if the problem is there we are not affected by it. That's what is important to me
Thanks anyway
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Agree, if by your usage your not affected by the problem then dont bother chances are theres gonna be another issue with the replacement phone, on my end im a bit unlucky though as its very visible on the edges, looks like backlight bleeding
So being that im a tv whore (own a krp kuro) i was playing some pioneer demo material on my gs2. The demo has a ton of awesome dark scenes that really show off how black these amoled displays can get.
There was one part where there was just a black screen for about 10 seconds. Since i was in a dark room my eyes adjusted and noticed all these Blotches all over the black screen. Is this normal? I see it on a 100% black background that i created as well. Any one else have this issue? It kinda dumb i know since i only see this in a dark room with a black screen but its bugging me now. I would be devastated if my kuro looked like that in a dark scene so my phone isnt any different.
Im on a bravia engine Rom with screen mode on movie.
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Normal, and might have come up in searches for "screen." People have complained here, asking people to go in closets and perform rituals to see if spots and lines appear. I will have your TV now. Thank you.
Righto. So I just took a picture of all black, then let my eyes adjust to the screen in the dar.... AND HOLY MOTHER OF MAY I? YES YOU CAN, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MY SCREEN?!
Are all screens like this? Is there something that causes this? Because I honestly don't remember ever seeing these blotches on my screen, and i even looked once before.
Now it's so bad it looks like my phone has some venireal disease or skin-touchscreen cancer.
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Seems like people are getting into a very humorous mood with the holidays, and it's spilling over to even serious threads.
What you describe is a defect of the screen. When the phone first came out, and for the first few weeks, there were a number of people who reported problems with the screen. The way to test the screen that was suggested at that time is exactly what you did with the black screen in a darkened room. I tried that test, and my phone has a completely black screen, with no light patches.
For some reason, there havn't been many reports at all since the first few weeks. You are only the second person I've seen to mention it, I think, since then.
The people that had the bad screens just exchanged their phones until they got a good one. Of course, at that time everyone was still within the 30 day period.
I was bein serious creep. I might have been comical in reply, but i genuinely want to know why my screen looks like crap now.
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lol. Actually I was calling brent8577 out for humor more than you. Anyway, it's a holiday and we all have the fun loving spirit.
Thanks for the replies. I see if i can find one with out blotches at best buy
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I have a blotchy screen.don't care too much to replace it. I should check my g/f's...
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Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
I'm the one who said my phone has a completely dark screen with no light patches. Well, that was a couple of months ago that I tested it, and I decided to do another test today. My house has a room with no window, so it is easy to get a completely darkened room.
When you put a black image on the screen in a dark room, the screen is not completely black. If you set the screen timeout to 30 minutes, and let your eyes completely adjust to the dark, the screen actually looks rather light, a sort of greyish. But the shade of grey and amount of light intensity theoretically should be uniform across the screen.
My screen is actually pretty uniform, but there is a slight gradation to darker arount the edges, a little more pronounced toward the top and bottom than on the sides. There is one very tiny area at the very top of the screen right on the edge directly below the AT&T logo, that is significantly darker than the rest of the screen. The difference in light intensity is not very much, but it is noticable.
The gradation of light intensity on this screen is so slight that it would be impossible to detect any difference in light intensity in normal screen use. People who have reported this problem are the ones whose screen is so variable, that they can see the difference during normal screen use. And if you would test one of those screens in a dark room, I'm told you would see a very marked difference in the light intensity.
So I say that if a screen is such that you can tell the difference when using the screen under normal conditions, then it is defective. But what Samsung or AT&T will say and do about it, I don't know. I havn't seen any reports from anyone that has tried to exchange their phone for that reason.
I tested screen out last night too and saw a few darker splotches around the bottom and side. Then my ocd kicked in. I was considering exchanging the phone today, but after reading this thread decided against it. Thank you all for the info
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I'm not really concerned if my screen suffers from this but I have a question:
If it matters, at what brightness is your screen set to when you do this?
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I had mine set to maximum brightness.
My screen also has the blotchiness but honestly i cant think of one time where this was a problem. you just dont notice it ever in day to day use and if you have to get in a dark room with an all black screen to notice it then i dont care.
I didn't want to start a new thread so I'll bump this one...
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Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
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So I've noticed lines and stuff when I go into the market/google play (the grey shows multiple verticle and horizontal lines, but I have to look a little hard. Not too big a deal.) However, I tried using auto brightness which defaults much lower than I had it set to manually and the screen shows tons of lines everywhere. For instance, I use ryude's unoriginal rom, and with the stock messenger (bright white) I get a ton of lines. I was wondering how many people use auto brightness and if anybody else has this issue. I'm out of the 30 day replacement warranty, but I have an upgrade coming up soon so I'm not super worried about it. But still...
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Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
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^^^^^^^^
This. I am on my fourth phone and all of the screens have been jacked up with splotches. Some worse than others.I'm going with a super amoled+ thing and less of a defect. Don't get me wrong, it drives my ocd nuts knowing that its there, I just try to avoid situations where you can see the splotches.... especially if I'm trying to show the phone off lol
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so, im on my second amaze (first one had a dead pixel) and i need to take this one back now too because i have these 3 bright spots under the cap keys where light is leaking thru that is pretty bad and that i never noticed on their display model or the first one i owned.
since ive only been with tmo about 2-3 weeks, im not really sure how often i can return a phone for being defective (still within remorse period). do they flag your account for too many returns? is there a limit to the amount of phones they will exchange? should i try and return this phone to a different store?
i feel like for the money i paid for this phone it should be flawless and at the same time its both a burden on me and tmo that i keep having to return this phone. thoughts? experiences? thanks
the three bright spot are on all models, its a known issue with the phone, they may take it back, but you will get an other one with the same issues.
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so, im on my second amaze (first one had a dead pixel) and i need to take this one back now too because i have these 3 bright spots under the cap keys where light is leaking thru that is pretty bad and that i never noticed on their display model or the first one i owned.
since ive only been with tmo about 2-3 weeks, im not really sure how often i can return a phone for being defective (still within remorse period). do they flag your account for too many returns? is there a limit to the amount of phones they will exchange? should i try and return this phone to a different store?
i feel like for the money i paid for this phone it should be flawless and at the same time its both a burden on me and tmo that i keep having to return this phone. thoughts? experiences? thanks
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i dont think it matters how many you physically return but if your requesting them from insurance they do because a lot of people scam insurance and just sell their devices.
Although, the capacitive lights at the bottom do leak, a lot. this is a well known issue and its highly likely that the next Amaze you get will have the same issue. If I were you, I'd at least root, and download adjbrightness from the market and just turn em off. It saved me some battery and got rid of all the light leakage hope I helped bro
if it is a deal breaker for ya, just get the GSII, its a good one too
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the three bright spot are on all models, its a known issue with the phone, they may take it back, but you will get an other one with the same issues.
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check out this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438805) see how this guys 3 dots are barely noticeable? mine are as bright as the cap keys themselves and the display model at 2 stores ive been to doesnt have em. i can deal with the way those look in the pic, but mine are super noticeable
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if it is a deal breaker for ya, just get the GSII, its a good one too
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had one of those too and had a bunch of ghost lines and blobs, plus the low resolution didnt really appeal to me on such a big screen
You can exchange it as many times as you want. Hell, I exchanged mine 4 times in one week! The issue I keep having is I have blue lines in my LCD. I am on my 6th replacement.
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so, im on my second amaze (first one had a dead pixel) and i need to take this one back now too because i have these 3 bright spots under the cap keys where light is leaking thru that is pretty bad and that i never noticed on their display model or the first one i owned.
since ive only been with tmo about 2-3 weeks, im not really sure how often i can return a phone for being defective (still within remorse period). do they flag your account for too many returns? is there a limit to the amount of phones they will exchange? should i try and return this phone to a different store?
i feel like for the money i paid for this phone it should be flawless and at the same time its both a burden on me and tmo that i keep having to return this phone. thoughts? experiences? thanks
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Light bleed is a known issue. There is a modification you can make to almost completely fix. I say it doesn't affect normal usage so I left it alone. Strongly recommend you stick with amaze. It's a great device.
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You can exchange it as many times as you want. Hell, I exchanged mine 4 times in one week! The issue I keep having is I have blue lines in my LCD. I am on my 6th replacement.
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LMAO. thats being assertive isnt it? good to know, we pay far too much money for phones that should be flawless right out of the box. guess ill be exchanging this for another, and another until they get it right!
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Light bleed is a known issue. There is a modification you can make to almost completely fix. I say it doesn't affect normal usage so I left it alone. Strongly recommend you stick with amaze. It's a great device.
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guys, my problem is not with the light bleed onto the screen, its with the 3 bright ass spots under my cap buttons. ill have to grab a picture tonight so you can see what i mean. they are literally as bright as the cap buttons themselves. its pretty bad...
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guys, my problem is not with the light bleed onto the screen, its with the 3 bright ass spots under my cap buttons. ill have to grab a picture tonight so you can see what i mean. they are literally as bright as the cap buttons themselves. its pretty bad...
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I never noticed these on my phone until last night when I was watching a show on my phone. Kind of annoying, and I'm hoping they don't get worse. I don't know how they would, but I've had the phone for two months and never noticed it till now.
For sure exchange though, I doubt they flag your account for having phone hardware issues. I only had 4 mytouch4gs in a year, but I was annoyed enough to get a free amaze out of it. They're good with exchanges. Wish they didn't have to be and the phones worked, but oh well.
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It really sucks having blue lines in the LCD. Since I am not far from Chicago, the cold weather here I believe is triggering the issue. I am going to keep exchanging until HTC gets it right and T-Mobile sends me a good phone lol.
Exchange it man! Don't be shy. You deserve what you pay for and tmo needs to be held responsible for providing that. Guarantees are only useful if you use them! If they overcharged you for some service would you just pay it because you don't want to burden them? I do agree it can be a pain to bring it in, I would go so far as to request a discount on your service. Never forget, they are there to serve you!
P.S. I also never lock myself into contracts, just so I have the option to quit. You would be amazed how much better service you get from the "customer retention center."
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As far as I know, most if not all amazes have a dead pixel, capacitive buttons lights leak into the screen and the blue lines are normal no need to replace your phone, besides, its not a big issue.
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I don't think mine has a dead pixel
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As far as I know, most if not all amazes have a dead pixel, capacitive buttons lights leak into the screen and the blue lines are normal no need to replace your phone, besides, its not a big issue.
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I definitely don't have any dead pixels in all 3 of my Amazes
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LMAO. thats being assertive isnt it? good to know, we pay far too much money for phones that should be flawless right out of the box. guess ill be exchanging this for another, and another until they get it right!
guys, my problem is not with the light bleed onto the screen, its with the 3 bright ass spots under my cap buttons. ill have to grab a picture tonight so you can see what i mean. they are literally as bright as the cap buttons themselves. its pretty bad...
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Under the cap buttons? Really? I guess I will have to see the picture when u post it. The known light bleed issue is 3 white spots above the cap buttons... More so in between each cap button... But on the screen. It's noticeable when the screen has a black background. If that's not what you're talking about, then u may have a faulty device
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Under the cap buttons? Really? I guess I will have to see the picture when u post it. The known light bleed issue is 3 white spots above the cap buttons... More so in between each cap button... But on the screen. It's noticeable when the screen has a black background. If that's not what you're talking about, then u may have a faulty device
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yup, its strange for sure. ive been spending so much time trying to restore my wifes kindle fire that i havent had much time for anything else. ill try and get a pic up in a few!
I don't have any blue lines or dead pixels on my Amaze, but so have the very common light bleed onto a dark screen, which was annoying.
I downloaded an app called screen filter off the market and it shuts the lights off on the soft keys. It was god sent! Didn't have to root my device either.
Not sure what you are talking about. Honestly don't want to as it may bother me if I see it on mine because of your picture, lol!
Loving this phone! Granted I just got it.
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ok guys, just got back exchanging my 2nd device at a different store and wait for it...wait for it...this thing is flawless (so far)!!!! very, very minimal light bleed and absolutely zero light coming from in between the cap buttons...
the store i bought the first 2 units from admitted to me that they sold very few amazes so i figured i must have been getting old stock. well it turns out, the other store i went to today had gotten burglarized a few weeks ago and had all completely new inventory. looks like the newer units have maybe addressed our concerns? not sure, but at this point im very happy!!
now that i got a good unit, you guys are stuck with me here for awhile! LOL
That's cool man. Glad to hear you got a good Amaze.
It was funny after reading this thread, I kept looking for those spots you were talking about, which I do get, but bleeds into the screen and that app took care of that problem. But having it outside in the sun, I noticed those blue lines. It is faint, but there. Looks like a grid. I assume these are on all of the devices? I can't see it much unless outside and the sun beating on it at a certain angle.
Kind of how my Kindle Fire is as well.
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Hi guys,
I would really appreciate some expert advise on my screen.
It has some horizontal lines/banding running through it, near the bottom of the screen is worse, and it's worse at lowest brightness setting but is still there at 100% brightness.
Hopefully you can see them in the picture although they don't actualy look as bad in the photo as they do in real life!
I took it into the place I purchased it from and one guy told me it was my fault because I have it in my pocket all day and where I sit down and my jeans go tight it has damaged/bent the screen. I find this crazy as I don't even were tight jeans, I skateboard to and from work and actually wear quite loose clothing. Anyway where else am I supposed to keep my phone?
And another guy in the same store told me that it isn't covered under warranty because this is just something that happens with SAMOLED screens and it's something you have to live with.
I know 2 people with S2's and their screens are perfect........
Does anyone else have this issue on their screen?
Is it a normal characteristic of SAMOLED screens?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers guys
I dont know but I dont have that-my screens perfect.
From what I see its a faulty screen and Id send it to Samsung to honour their warranty.
The screen shold be faultless for the duration of the warranty period ie the last day the screen should be like the first day.
And Id have given that repair guy a slap.
It's not normal. You should send it in.
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Thanks for the response guys. I guess I'll just have to persist and not take no for an answer.
The only thing that concerns me is the terrible QC on devises these days.....what on earth is going on?
If I send this back for a repair there is nothing to say I won't get a new screen with another defect, maybe a yellowish tint or some dead pixels.
I have been reading about other issues on I9100 screens and there are several.
I think it's terrible that today when we are buying a device we have to come to a site like this and research possible defects before we buy....surely this isn't right!
I was wanting to buy a Nexus 7 but after the screen issues I've read about I don't think I will.
I was also looking at buying an i9300, same thing, there are so many defects that you could come across.
When spending this sort of money on a device I really don't think this is acceptable, yet companies are getting away with it.
I'm not sure what can be done but I hope something changes and QC improves.
Right now I'm stuck with an S2 with a defective screen and I'm weighing up weather this defect is more bearable than maybe getting a new screen with a different defect.
Come on Samsung........,Sort your S**T out!
Obagleyfreer said:
I was wanting to buy a Nexus 7 but after the screen issues I've read about I don't think I will.
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I'd just like to ask about what screen issues? I'm fairly sure all of those quality issues with the screen have been sorted out by now, regarding lift etc. Someone in my family owns a Nexus 7 and it is the smoothest performing Android tablet that I've ever seen, even more so than my TF300 that I'm typing this on (although I now have a custom ROM on it that works very quickly). The screen density is great, no lift that I can notice, and overall it is a powerhouse of a tablet!
As for the rest of the build...I'm shocked by the quality. Its extremely solid for a plastic-backed device. It almost feels like metal its so tough, although it is still soft-to-the touch (absolutely no flex, though. Zero. Zip. Just soft to the touch as said)
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I was just over at the nexus 7 thread and the first 2 stickies in the general section are dedicated to problems, kinda put me off.
By the sounds of it your family member got lucky with their N7.
Just go to the N7 forum and have a read, the problems still aren't fixed in the latest batch.
Anyway this is kinda off topic so best to discuss in the N7 forum.
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Theyll probably just load stock 4.0.4 onto it-that was their attempt to fix my wifes overheating/freezing s2.
I would email samsung directly and put it back.And dont settle for any half arsed repair,make sure your satisfied.Only downside is the time the phone is away from you cos its an inconvenience.
They also like to get out of warranty with the usual "water damaged" excuse.
On a side note,they locked horns with me-and lost.Bought a phone from a catalogue company(the overheating one),wasnt happy so bought a note,complained and the £450 for the s2 was refunded,and the girl told me "to destroy the phone" rather than sending it back.
Loaded rootbox/dk and its perfect.Gave it to my son just to use for shooting videos.
Yeah that's what I thought they might do, I don't care what firmware they put on it I'll just restore my CWM back up when I get it back.
I hope they don't leave that diagnostics box thing on the screen though, that sounds like right mission to have to remove.
In fact the guy in the shop I bought it from said a factory reset would fix it, the muppet, It is clearly a faulty screen.
Mine was having some overheating issues too when I first bought it and I took it in a week after purchase and he said there's nothing I could do because I had installed a custom ROM, I hadn't, it was Go Launcher I installed. Just goes to show how much this guy knows!
I actually bought this phone on 14th March with ICS installed straight out of the box, which was weird, it was obviously a very early release (LP2) and was why the phone was over heating.
Overheating is normally a kernel/ROM issue so your very lucky you got to keep your S2. Score!
Hopefully if I return it they'll realise it IS a faulty screen and just replace it, like I said though it's a bit of a gamble with S2 screens it seems.
I just don't think issues like these should be this common on expensive, high end devices.
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I keep my eye on most hardware problems and Ive seen a lot more successes (screens)than failures....prob 85% happy.
Make sure no traces of rooting etc is on your phone when sending it back.
Good luck!
I'd say it's faulty screen. Mine has no such artefacts...
Oh, and I carry my SGS2 in trouser pocket, often bundled with companys Blackberry...
Pretty sure there are no characteristics of SAMOLED to deteriorate over time. I use mine lowest brightness all the time and car in pockets etc and screen is a clean white with no visible lines.
I think I'll bite the bullet and part with my S2 for 2 weeks while it's repaired
If I'm wanting to remove all traces of root etc I was planning to:
Boot in recovery and then format cache, system, data and internal storage. Then flash my countries latest stock firmware package.
Is that all I need to do?
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My S2 and my wife's S2 have absolutely flawless screens. Not a single thing wrong with it. Id say take it back and don't take no for an answer because the screen has to be perfect.
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I was just over at the nexus 7 thread and the first 2 stickies in the general section are dedicated to problems,
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Wow, I didn't know it was that bad...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=9771
Yes me too
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Yeah, and they're just people here on XDA alot of common users don't use this site or may not even notice some of problems because they don't use the function.
Update on my screen issue:
I'm currently trying to get a replacement phone as they have now agreed that the screen is indeed faulty. About time
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Dont know abou you guys, but from what i've read Super AMOLEDs do get burn-ins.
I played poker on my sgs2 really long, and now the cards are burnt into the screen. I have yellow tint in the middle of the screen, looking like 5 playing cards. Also the place where the statusbar is, shows blue tint on completly white background.
Do you have any app that matches your screen faulty pixels? Maybe keyboard or something? I have an app called Super Manager and with that i can make the whole screen white, grey, black, and RGB, so you could further inspect it.
Let us know if warranty will cover the burn ins, or if there's some problems... good luck with unrooting, oh and dont forget to reset the custom rom/kernel counter with triangle away.
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I'm sorry to say this...
Well, regrding the screen issues on the SGS2...
AMOLED's and derivates from it (SAMOLED, etc...) do suffer from the burn-in effect commonly found on older PLASMA screen TV's and displays.
When I first bought this phone, I only saw it's benefits regarding to it's brightness, colors etc...
But after few months have passed I've noticed that when I have full white (or bright) page open on my phone's browser, I see ghost from an android keyboard and at about half of the screen I could see shadows of widgets that I normally use!
So I ran the *#00#* test and, indeed, there were alot of artefacts on the screen. As of today, I'm reconsidering my purchase of this, otherwise excellent phone, and thinking of switching it for some of the competitors in the line of existence.
Really, it is very dissapointing fact that device like this, which should be top of the line product, suffers from a issue like this!
Currently I'm browsing the adds in search for somethin similar that will replace my SGS2 and with much hope without, ghosts on the screen... :crying::crying::crying:
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Mine unit from Poland also have this... More over i found one redditor that have bended unit.. I put mine on leveled (screen side) surface and also is bended... So meny $ a issues...
Check yours...
I am not going to defend Samsung etc, however if your unit is broken, got defects, or you are not happy with something - just send it back, ask for replacement or just return it then buy new one.
It's not just his... looks like a lamination issue.
Not something you should see on a flagship display.
Rather than owe up to it Samsung is making excuses saying it's normal. Translation: there must be a lot of them with this defect...
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I am not going to defend Samsung etc, however if your unit is broken, got defects, or you are not happy with something - just send it back, ask for replacement or just return it then buy new one.
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First: If you were read article you will knew that Samsung said it is manufacturing side effect so maybe it is not so obvious to return the unit. The defect is in the same place on all reported phones... Could be hard to get one without it as guy in twitter try 2 times and both have the same issue.
Second: If you were look inside the twitter comments you will see that it is not only uk but also in usa and other regions that are affected.
Third: 23u is my primary phone, so not so easy to just return it and stay without the phone as i also use esim. And more over i can get another unit with the same defect or even they will not accept it as they mention as it is side effect of manufacturing.
Right now it is not disturbing the use of the phone, but as i know it is there it is quite not comfy...
It's really irritating that people look for this nonsense that doesn't affect the functioning of the phone one iota and then share it around and ruin everyone else's enjoyment of their devices.
I can confirm that my US Ultra has this. Never would have seen it if it wasn't pointed out.
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First: If you were read article you will knew that Samsung said it is manufacturing side effect so maybe it is not so obvious to return the unit. The defect is in the same place on all reported phones... Could be hard to get one without it as guy in twitter try 2 times and both have the same issue.
Second: If you were look inside the twitter comments you will see that it is not only uk but also in usa and other regions that are affected.
Third: 23u is my primary phone, so not so easy to just return it and stay without the phone as i also use esim. And more over i can get another unit with the same defect or even they will not accept it as they mention as it is side effect of manufacturing.
Right now it is not disturbing the use of the phone, but as i know it is there it is quite not comfy...
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First - I read it, if you are not happy with the product, don't use it, simple. You still have 14 days to send it back if you are not happy, vote with your wallet.
Second - And? Not sure how big % of phones got that issue, but same as above applies, if people are not happy they should send units back. Maybe then samsung would acknowledge issue.
Third - No one force you to stay without phone, if you sold etc. your previous one or sent it back for trade in, then make a complain to Samsung.
And fourth, if you read my post with understanding you would get that I do not defend them. Sending back bad/wrong/broken etc product is our right, Samsung and S23 is not the only phone on the market, if you have issues with them, than feel free to buy something else.
I was angry with oneplus few years ago and guess what, I am on samsung now.
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It's really irritating that people look for this nonsense that doesn't affect the functioning of the phone one iota and then share it around and ruin everyone else's enjoyment of their devices.
I can confirm that my US Ultra has this. Never would have seen it if it wasn't pointed out.
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We should not talk about any issues regarding quality of expensive phone to not irritating ppl? Hmm m ok.
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It's not just his... looks like a lamination issue.
Not something you should see on a flagship display.
Rather than owe up to it Samsung is making excuses saying it's normal. Translation: there must be a $hit load of them with this defect...
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If that's what they say and your unit have it, vote with you wallet and send it back, there will be no change when people moan on this forum and Samsung keep their sales.
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We should not talk about any issues regarding quality of expensive phone to not irritating ppl? Hmm m ok.
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This is nothing but people hunting for reasons to dislike the phone. It has zero effect on functionality and you have to really be looking to even see it. It's a nothingburger discovery some iPhone fanboy found and put on Twitter to cause drama.
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The problem is it's not supposed to be there at all. Not on my N10+'s. On a display that's not acceptable. It's a manufacturing defect and right where it's always in your face.
Worse, pretty sure Samsung was aware of this defect but they shipped them anyway. Like a brat they do what they want then make lame bs excuses for their actions. This isn't a injection molding tab Sammy, it's a screw up.
At this point there's no telling if over time it will get worse and/or spread. I'd return it for a cash refund especially at this price point, where the defect is and Samsung's condescending attitude.
but this is only visible with a strong light source, with certain angle of light with screen off. it has no impact on usability. i have seen it in the past on other curved displays
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I upgraded to s23u with EE and i got it on 13th , 512gb ,green. Everything fine,until 3 days later when i installed a Samsung screen protector on,using a flashlight i was eyeballing for dust particles using a sticker. Right bottom corner i noticed a smudge, wiped off,still there, anyway upon close look ,in certain angle using the flashlight, i noticed this crease/bubble/dent around 4mm in width and 2mm height . To me it looks like a dent inwards rather than a bubble. Checked my pixel 7pro,nothing, checked my missus s21plus(flat screen),nothing, then i remembered i have stashed a galaxy s8(still works a take faster photos than s23u though) anything like this,screen was perfect.
Don't get me wrong, only in bright light ,shining directly on the screen you can see it. The touch screen works perfectly.
I contacted EE, the tech support said it looks like delamination or sort and could spread in time, right ,i said i do like the phone and i would like an exchange. EE delivered next day the replacement, as you guessed, same issue, this time half in size,almost not visible, but because i knew where and how to look ,i spotted it right away. Also very fine crease on the right,but almost not visible(unless you know what to look for).
Can i live with this ,yes i can,do i want to take a risk,thinking that potentially, ot could spread over thetime,hmm ,i don't. Opened a second return.
For ppl who said that this is not a big deal,remember, th ise damn phone is expensive and it should be perfect,like my previous s22ultra amd my 5 years old S8
I attached some photos 1,the first phone and 2
glad i am not that inquisitive otherwise i would still use nokia 3110
My S23 Ultra has it. Then I just realized after a year of using my S22 Ultra that this is the case as well... Guess it doesn't really matter.
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My S23 Ultra has it. Then I just realized after a year of using my S22 Ultra that this is the case as well... Guess it doesn't really matter.
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even my old S8 has it
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It's really irritating that people look for this nonsense that doesn't affect the functioning of the phone one iota and then share it around and ruin everyone else's enjoyment of their devices.
I can confirm that my US Ultra has this. Never would have seen it if it wasn't pointed out.
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I'm still having trouble seeing it in these pictures, even when it's directly pointed out, lol. I'm not gonna examine my phone. It looks generally fine and I'm gonna stick with it.
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We should not talk about any issues regarding quality of expensive phone to not irritating ppl? Hmm m ok.
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I think the issue is that most people wouldn't even notice if someone didn't point it out to them in special lighting. I think you should be able to discuss and point out anything you deem flawed. But on the other end you should also expect pushback from people who think you are just being spoiled when you have the option to return it. I have noticed it on my Galaxy S23 Ultra US version but only by looking at it in lighting. I think the device is fantastic and even with that little flaw I will keep my device since I can't really notice it since I have a case on it.
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I upgraded to s23u with EE and i got it on 13th , 512gb ,green. Everything fine,until 3 days later when i installed a Samsung screen protector on,using a flashlight i was eyeballing for dust particles using a sticker. Right bottom corner i noticed a smudge, wiped off,still there, anyway upon close look ,in certain angle using the flashlight, i noticed this crease/bubble/dent around 4mm in width and 2mm height . To me it looks like a dent inwards rather than a bubble. Checked my pixel 7pro,nothing, checked my missus s21plus(flat screen),nothing, then i remembered i have stashed a galaxy s8(still works a take faster photos than s23u though) anything like this,screen was perfect.
Don't get me wrong, only in bright light ,shining directly on the screen you can see it. The touch screen works perfectly.
I contacted EE, the tech support said it looks like delamination or sort and could spread in time, right ,i said i do like the phone and i would like an exchange. EE delivered next day the replacement, as you guessed, same issue, this time half in size,almost not visible, but because i knew where and how to look ,i spotted it right away. Also very fine crease on the right,but almost not visible(unless you know what to look for).
Can i live with this ,yes i can,do i want to take a risk,thinking that potentially, ot could spread over thetime,hmm ,i don't. Opened a second return.
For ppl who said that this is not a big deal,remember, th ise damn phone is expensive and it should be perfect,like my previous s22ultra amd my 5 years old S8
I attached some photos 1,the first phone and 2
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return it and get your previous S22 Ultra.
I am not seeing it on mine but I could be blind
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I am not seeing it on mine but I could be blind
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It's probably present on certain batches; some will have it, others not. A major QC screw up. If the defect was minor you wouldn't be able to see it at all.
This is a defect that could effect the survivability of the glass. Glass is subject to some of the laws of hydrodynamics. This deformity causes new stress points. It may not crack there but in another area of the display, hydrodynamics. Glass is a peculiar substance with bizarre properties. Of course if it breaks Samsung will say it's your fault for dropping it.
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