Hi,
I'm a long-time lurker, this is my first post. I've searched and searched for this topic, but I dont think that it's something many people are trying to do. I hope I'm posting into the right forum. I'm pretty new to any sort of Android development, so I apologize in advance for any
I have a Virgin Optimus V that I have moved over to Sprint.
The phone has been activated on Sprint and I'm capable of making phone calls and SMS, but I can't get the device to connect to Sprint's 3G data.
I figured that by installing a Sprint ROM, I would get the Sprint modem.bin and be able to "Update Profile" to provision the phone to Sprint and get data working.
no such luck. I have flashed over to the Thunder rom for Optimus S and I'm in the same place. I can call and text, but still no Data. When I try and "Update Profile" it fails and immediately restarts the device.
Any ideas as to what is left on the device that would prevent it from connecting to Sprint data?
Bump... I would also like to know the answer to this since I've been thinking of doing this as well. How were you able to get the phone on Sprint's network in the first place?
I'm operating on an MVNO Wholesale network. If I were trying to activate this device on the normal Sprint network, I could understand the problem, as you can't switch ESNs back and forth. Given my scenario, I really can't understand what could possibly be limiting me from doing this. . .
Since my OP, I've flashed the Sprint PRL to the phone with qpst. I'm running ThundeROM V1.8. I turn on Airplane Mode, then turn it off and I see the 3G data icon for just a minute and then it disappears. When I try to update the Profile now, it trys and trys and eventually times out. . . but it no longer restarts the device after failing.
I'm also prompted to install system updates. . . which seems to indicate some kind of data connection is active?
I've been trying to change the APN settings through ##DATA#, but after I make a change to the Data Profile Username (from the @mdata.vombl.com to @sprintpcs.com) the phone restarts and the OLD values are still in the phone?
I'm thinking that the ##DATA# settings are incorrect? But how can I get the changes I make to "Stick" ? Since all of these settings were reset the last time I wiped the phone, I'd imagine that the AAA Password will also need to be set?
I was under the impression that the AAA Password (and most of the ##DATA# settings would configure themselves once I program in the MSID and MDN?)
Any help or shoves in the right direction would be appreciated.
I wish I was more knowledgeable in this area to be able to help...
Sorry! I didn't mean to dismiss your issue if this is what you're trying to do, I'm interested in this also. . . but I think Sprint keeps Virgin ESN's distinctly seperate from Sprint ESN's, the classic problem with a lot of other devices people would love to use on Sprint. I just lost my personal Sprint phone and I need a new one, it would be great if I could flash this V over to it.
I'm pretty new to this stuff too . . . I think that someone with more knowledge could likely help both of us =)
Any update? I was think about doing the same thing.
Bump
I really doubt you can get Sprint to provision the phone because I'm sure they would want to keep the meids/esns separate.
I have the same issue but have repaired my ESN. I have tried copying the actual NV items directly to the memory locations but on reboot the Virgin info repopulates. I posted in the the general section before I found this thread. I got no response in my thread yet. If mods want to move my thread into this one, I am fine with that.
If I find out anymore info, I will post in here.
I'm sure you're having an issue with the AAA and HA passwords for 3G. Unlike other phones, the Optimus V is not well-mapped (yet) for this info. A lot of people are having 3G issues when the phone updates, say from 2.1 to 2.2. VM customer support is terrible, they usually say to just pull the battery. Apparently the AAA and HA do not come back under these circumstances. If there was a way to find the HA and AAA PW like you can for others, people could fix this problem themselves.
Sorry this is no help, but I think that is the specific problem you're having based on your OP.
Ill be moving to japan by years end and was wondering what network could I use to work with the Atrix? And if anyone has any experiance living in japan, how does billing work?
From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
...I beg to differ on that one.
Here in Japan, there are some good Android phones, but they're almost always locked down. For example my SH005. great phone except the battery won't last a whole day.
I picked up an Atrix I plan on unlocking and using that over here.
anything that has the 2100 band (pretty much all 3G phones in the US) will work on Softbank. if you're going there permanently, then if your phone is unlocked you can probably just drop the SIM in. if you're going temporarily then you will probably need to grab a prepaid SIM but it should still work in the phone. you pay for all minutes used, incoming calls are free, and softbank has a good deal on unlimited mail for prepaid (300 yen per month) plans.
shadowfalx had issues with softbank in JP.. he tried 2 Atrix handsets and couldn't get either of them to work with data..
It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
Kueller said:
From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
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Like what?
Japan is behind the times these days, still loving flip phones, blackberries and just joining the iphone love.
Symbian is alive and well in Japan. That should tell you everything.
starrwulfe said:
It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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Have you ever heard of people getting extremely high charges for data? I read about that on another forum (gaijinpot, search for "softbank bill" on the title, I can't link to it). They say softbank will usually not allow you to use a cell phone they didn't sell on their data network if you ask them directly. The thread is 3 or so moths old, I don't think too much has changed since then.
Again, it's all in the plan/APN settings you start off with beforehand, along with checking My.softbank.ne.jp to see if you're getting ridiculous charges...
Some people go into the store, get a prepaid phone, then just swap the SIMs. No prepaid phone here comes with data!
Others are moving from a featurephone to a smartphone. Those have data, but are tied to a specific APN. When pulling down more data than allowed from that APN, they charge exorbitant fees. Hence plan changing is a good thing.
Finally, some people go from iPhone to another Android. iPhones here have totally different APNs they attach to.
It's all in the name controlling the plans for their customers, that's all. Connect to the one you're paying for, then you shouldn't have any problem.
Again, I used an AT&T treo 750, HTC Tilt, HTC Tilt 2, from T-mobile, and an out-the-box unlocked iPhone 3GS from Singapore with no issues. Of course you NEVER tell them that you're using a different phone from the one that's on their system. But as long as you're connected properly, they generally don't care.
That being said, theres another option called B:mobile here. They're an MVNO and use DoCoMo's network. They just sell you a prepaid SIM card. I may try them out, just to see what kind of service is there and if it could save me some ¥. This guy is test one right now actually:
http://softbanksucks.blogspot.com/
Wow, that was really informative starrwulfe. I was looking for this kind of info because I just got an Atrix off of ebay and I plan to use it with a Dell Streak's SIM which I got from softbank on the 2-year contract. You're saying that if I backup my APN settings from the Streak I should have no problems on the Atrix, correct?
For the record, I pay about 9,000 yen per month. That includes ~6,000 for the unlimited data plan, ~1800 for the phone, and all the crap you have to sign in when you make the contract.
OP, If you are going to stay in Japan long enough and you intend to use a lot of data on the Atrix you may want to consider getting a basic android smartphone from softbank on an unlimited data plan and swapping SIMs.
Exactly.
I have a Sharp Galapagos SH005 here now, but like you, I'm switching to an Atrix too (in fact it should be here before Saturday) and that's exactly what I plan to do.
Easy way to tell what APN you should connect to is to check the color of the SIM cards. Black ones are iPhone only cards, gray ones with green bands specifically say "SMARTPHONE" on them-- they go into the Android phones here. Feature phones have a regular gray card.
You can find the APN info and password easily by googling a little... But if you can back up your APN info, can you share it with me? mine is locked (current phone can't be rooted)
Ok, now I'm having trouble here with getting my Atrix set up on the Softbank network.
Phone calls and SMS work, but data doesn't.
Seems they have some unpublished APNs now with the new android phones. My Galapagos plugs into some other APN than what the normal silver cards did. Unfortunately I can't see what my APN is now on my current phone since they've locked that part out.
What I'm also afraid of is that they may have also started using things like imei checking and user agent binding as well. Great, now what can I do?
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Just so you know, I have this with sim card out of my iPhone and my atrix works on the softbank network. So it was see if only thing stopping me for connecting to softbank is apn info.
again if anybody has sharp galapogos APN information for softbank I would happily pay pal a donation
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It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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It was APNs....sort of. Motorola Atrix requires you to add your Username and Password to a file in '/system/etc/ppp/peers/pppd-ril.options'. With out this you can call and use wi-fi but can not use mobile data.
and for APN's this site is helpful:
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...internet-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/
Just remember is you want tethering and aGPS add them to the list in APN Type. So it should read default,supl,mms,agps,dun,tether remember NO spaces
Starrwulf do you have root on you Galappagos phone? if so you can look at the APNs.....Let me make a guide quickly and I will update this post.
Required:
SQLite editor
Root
1) Open SQLite editor and accept the root permissions.
2) Go to Dialer storage.
3) telephony.db
4) carriers
This opens a database file with all the APNs preloaded on the phone. You should be able to look for the one that has a 'Yes' in the current field.
I assume this is the same or similar on the Galapagos (I don't have one specifically though)
Thanx _Dennis_ for being so helpful!
Unfortunately, this thing has no root-- or rather may have temporary root, but not full root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054132
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13747122
If I could gain just enough access to that file, then maybe theres a good chance it's in there.
I don't think SuperOneClick works... any suggestions?
maybe try gingerbreak? it may gain you root but you may not be able to change anything, which would be ok.
Or even better do you have adb access? if so I will find the correct .db file.
--edit: correct file is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db
or try these settings:
apn carrier="SoftBank Internet"
mcc="440"
mnc="20"
apn="andglobal.softbank.ne.jp"
user="andg001softbank"
password="pumbbghkpgyybsxa"
mmsc="http://mms/"
mmsproxy="andmms.softbank.ne.jp"
mmsport="8080"
type="default,mms"
preferred="true"
from: http://android.modaco.com/content-p...-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/page/40/
I'm on the freenode IRC channel #moto-atrix, my name is shadowfalx do to someone already having _dennis_ registered though, if you want more real time help
You, another friend of mine here on Gtalk, and I found that MoDaCo thread all at the same time!
Those settings did the trick actually! So now I'm good to go. Now I need to figure out how to push that other mms.apk thru ADB to get my useragent changed...
BTW I'm new to the Android Mod scene. I started messing with WinMo back in the States, then moved here and had a very hacked Tilt 2 on softbank... when it gave up the ghost, I went into the iPhone jailbreak scene. Now I'm here! So I'll accept any and all advice you can give me, sensei/senpai!
You don't really need the mms app Download 'Handcent' from the market and change the UA in settings. Also I suggest getting 'market enabler' requires root but it allows you to fake a US sim card in the market and get US only apps.
I have Hancent... But I don't see anywhere to change the UA in the settings.... Am I missing something?
Hello,
regarding people coming up and saying about legality, I own my phones and acc.
if you dont post in here, please send me a pm.
I have an evo 3d rooted, I put my phone's donor on my evo, I own my acc and phone with verizon. I just like to use my evo 3d. Anyway, I have voice/text working, but data. also the roaming triangle, My phone sees it as I'm roaming, while my phone already uses verizon services in my acc.
But I truly need my data working.
Thanks for help.
HBOOT-1.40.1100
Radio -1.06.00.1216
PRL Verizon - 52341
ROM InfectedROM_Ethernity_1.4.2 (but I think I will change, since I cant get my Phone to load my google acc.)
Android - 2.3.4
Sense ver. 3.0
PRI 1.42_003
Yea you kinda gave the no go once you mentioned the esn part. Umm you might want to edit that part.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
thanks, edited
come on, impossible no one has done it before.....!!!!
Ok, funny thing, couple of years ago I made a post to get your evo on Metropcs when people was charging an arm an a leg for that.
it has gone on for +2 with +160k views ..
Now I come around asking a hint so where we can debate about that...
No one could post or pm with anything. besides swaping esn/meid which we'll not be covering in this topic for legality issues.
the rest is Technical matter.
Anyway...
I called verizon customer service today, twice.
first time they said to clear browser data(so smart) though I didnt even had 3G or any sort of internet conection.
of course didnt work and they want to send me a new phone.
second call, I was straight out, I said I was messing with my phone and software
and I erased the AAA/HA keys... well, went through some process and at their end my phone was successfully up and running. Meaning my phone had download the keys just right.
It get me to one point. the problem seems to be at my end.
Not sure if it is related with the ROM/Kernel/Keys/PRL/Roaming/etc....
Again, voice and text works just fine.
Now data still down, if could get at least the 1x going I would have more time to work on the 3g
Anybody out wanna work this out lmk, if you have gone thru this.. lmk.
really appreciate that.
fckng place...!!!
I have an old HTC Incredible that I am letting my 7 year old son use as a phone and game device. It is no longer activated on Verizon, but by using the wifi connection and a combination of Google voice and an SIP client I have managed to turn it back in to a working phone. It just needs to be near my phone, which has a shared wifi 4G connection, or any other wifi network.
He really enjoys is, and can still download games and make phone calls etc. Everything is great! And Dad doesn't pay a penny for any of it.
Somehow the phone has decided that it needs an OTA update from Verizon now. I obviously can't let it do that, since I am not paying Verizon to use it anymore. The phone constantly asks him if its ok to update the software. Every time it boots, and even when it's just been running for a while.
Here is my question... Does anyone know where the flag is in the SQL database that is triggering this? I would like to reset the flag so it stops asking the question. I have told him NOT to do it, but its just a matter of time until he accidentally does, or his sister does.
Has anyone ever run across that flag while playing in the SQL databases on a verizon phone??
Thanks, any info is greatly appreciated.. I'm surprised there is not more info out there on converting these old phone into stand alone android devices, and some tools to make it easier. Lots of people must have old phones around to do stuff like this with....
Been looking into this for awhile now. Today, I've just rooted my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (on 4.3) and I'm absolutely giddy over having a rooted android
Two things I've been finding come up is to change the APN settings (been playing with those, doesn't seem to help ) and to go into data/system/throttle and delete the two files you find there after backing them up to your pc. Problem is, while this folder seems to pop up for a lot of people, there doesn't appear to be a throttle folder in my phone. This may be because, even though it was sold through Net10 and uses Net10 service, it's originally technically an AT&T phone. To my understanding (and I may be a total noob here), the big carrier companies like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, throttle you when they see you're using too much on their towers. But that prepaid carriers piggyback on the big carriers, so rather than being able to monitor you (because they can't watch the towers, it's not their towers) they install these triggers in their devices to automatically activate when you exceed a certain data threshold (in my case, 3GBs). Is my understanding incorrect here? Just trying to learn from what I read on forums.
Anyone here who can help me figure out how to bypass the throttle, or at least make it a bit faster than 16kbps when being throttled? I understand getting slowed down, I'm not gonna sit here like "Lol but it says unlimited lol" because I actually read the fine print. But 16kbps is unbelievably slow. Hell, I'd be good with 50-100kbps.......
If you need more info to help me out, just ask!