Motorola Atrix 4G should work correctly in Brazil 3G? I know that atrix doesnt have 900mhz frequencies, but carriers here have 2100/1800/850 frequencies... i will buy one on ebay unlocked, whats a good prince for it? 400 usd?
another question is, whats the restrictions of motorola on this phone? there is a good some time that i dont hold a motorola phone, my last phone is a x10i from sony...
it have 2.3.x or 3.x firmware? should a buy this really?
You must take in consideration the bands and frequencies for voice and data. Chances are that it could work on voice but not 3G/4G data (only Edge speeds), but please check what voice and data bands your operator works on and compare with those on the Atrix.
What do you mean by 'Restrictions'??? If you are talking about the encrypted bootloader, yes it's encrypted and Motorola is well known for being one of the best to handle encryption. However there is a small light at the end of the tunnel and there seems to be hope that either Moto will unlock it (doubt it myself) or Devs coming up with a way to overcome this limitation.
All in all the Atrix is a great Smartphone even on it's current ROM state.
Cheers!
Rayan
http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/Motorola-ATRIX-vs-Motorola-ATRIX-4G.html
Here they are selling the first model, if you see the comparei, it just have add the HSDPA 900 frequencie and removed 4G from title....
BUT they are U$ 1,600 USD (R$ 2,600). 4G is a protocol right? so, i think 4G phone will work on 3G band, correct?
Should I wait for Galaxy S II (i dont even know the release date for it...) ? I really hate wait.
SkzBR said:
http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/Motorola-ATRIX-vs-Motorola-ATRIX-4G.html
Here they are selling the first model, if you see the comparei, it just have add the HSDPA 900 frequencie and removed 4G from title....
BUT they are U$ 1,600 USD (R$ 2,600). 4G is a protocol right? so, i think 4G phone will work on 3G band, correct?
Should I wait for Galaxy S II (i dont even know the release date for it...) ? I really hate wait.
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Well no, 4g is not a protocol per-se, it's just a fancy way of saying fourth generation ...
So yes, a 4g device can be used on a 3g our even edge network as long as the bands match.
Good luck
SkzBR said:
http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/Motorola-ATRIX-vs-Motorola-ATRIX-4G.html
Here they are selling the first model, if you see the comparei, it just have add the HSDPA 900 frequencie and removed 4G from title....
BUT they are U$ 1,600 USD (R$ 2,600). 4G is a protocol right? so, i think 4G phone will work on 3G band, correct?
Should I wait for Galaxy S II (i dont even know the release date for it...) ? I really hate wait.
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$1600USD????? Holy crap. They retail for $599cdn here (Atrix 4G) and I think that's steep.
Yes, 4G phones also work on 3G assuming the 4G/3G bands are compatible.
Thats the price on Brazil... R$ 2,600 = 1,595 USD
Thats why i wanna buy from ebay or anything like. Another question is, why this phone on ebay comes without 'original packing'? i have broght anothers models on ebay, but every atrix that i found on ebay comes without packing (but, a good price range... 500 usd).
Is true that i cant install apps from Android Market even if i buy a AT&T Unlocked phone because i need to flash to enable sideloading apps?
Could you not buy a Bell version which already has sideloading enabled and no tethering restrictions? The Bell version seems to be the same as the international version as any leaked sbf (with the exception of ATT) has worked on it so far.
As for the market, I can't see why sideloading would affect market app installs. Sideloading is for installing apk's from your SD card, etc, AFAIK.
GibMcFragger said:
Yes, 4G phones also work on 3G assuming the 4G/3G bands are compatible.
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The 4g is atts way of saying hspda+ as its still just fast 3g.
As for sideloading on att atrix, yes you can enable it by rooting and using gladenable.
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If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
minogue said:
Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
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you could but it cant be the vodafone one as that has 192mb ram like the G1, it would have to be the full HTC one
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If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
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If you buy from T-mobile in UK, it should work in the US. I was told they use the same 1700/2100 bands that we do. Only Hero 100 has the 1700 band built in, so the regular Hero will not work for US 3G.
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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What's sad is that I would rather use the Hero, relying on EDGE and Wi-Fi than to resort to using the iPhone... LOL
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not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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That's correct...... about UK networks. no 1700.
T-mobile is getting the Hero next year so will it go to AT&T or other operators first?
To the OP... the Magic that you are getting off ebay.... well that will be the same thing.... 3G won't work in the US unless you wait till Sept./Oct. when T-Mo US releases it.
I don't care much for 3G, it's a battery killer and I'm usually near wifi.
EDGE ftw!
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
jim_0068 said:
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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Wouldn't there be an unlocked US version when it's released here?
sorry
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not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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So, since I was misinformed by T-Mo, I have a question of my own:
Will you be able to add the 1700 band with a software update, or does that require a hardware update through the mfg?
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
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T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
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So then T-Mobile would have both the Hero and the nearly feature-identical Magic at the same time? As much as I would have wished T-Mo to carry the Hero (very), the FCC passed the Hero with the AT&T 3G bands anyway.
jim_0068 said:
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
zambezy said:
so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
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You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
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You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
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That's exactly what I was going to recommend, its $500 cad and $20 to unlock it. You just need someone from Canada to buy and ship it.
T-Mobile to get Samsung Galaxy S 2 says official Twitter account
ANDROID CENTRAL | FEBRUARY 17, 2011
http://pulsene.ws/11Khk
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Nvm didnt read the bottom part mode delete this please.
Sorry I got too happy and didnt read the full article and just copy and pasted the link.
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yup false alarm...........
I don't think the retraction of the tweet is any indication T-Mob wont be getting the S2. With the Galaxy 4G coming out in a few days, if mainstream customers new there was a phone twice as good on the horizon it would obliterate S4G sales. Plus from my understanding there's nothing in the specs that eliminates T-Mob as a possibility. 90% chance T-Mob gets this phone, which I'm of course stoked about.
This phone is said to be shipping with AT&T's 3G, but that it will work with any carrier. So, for you T-Mobile users, it will probably work, but only for 2G speeds. Sorry.
There is absolutely no way Samsung will make this super phone and limit its data potential to Att's ****ty 3G.
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There is absolutely no way Samsung will make this super phone and limit its data potential to Att's ****ty 3G.
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http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
dont forget tmobile has a 5gb limit its NOT unlimited
Per the link you supplied:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Seems to me T-mobile's HSPA+ will be compatible, unless I'm completely missing something.
And to the above comment, 5G is plenty, even for most heavy users.
Won't this device support both 3G company's? From the specs of the link
false alarm
sirdowski said:
Per the link you supplied:
HSPA+ 21Mbps/ HSUPA 5.76Mbps
EDGE/ GPRS Class 12
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Seems to me T-mobile's HSPA+ will be compatible, unless I'm completely missing something.
And to the above comment, 5G is plenty, even for most heavy users.
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Sure, T-Mobile UK is compatible
T-Mobile US's HSPA+ uses 1700/2100 or AWS.
Funk2641 said:
Sure, T-Mobile UK is compatible
T-Mobile US's HSPA+ uses 1700/2100 or AWS.
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Gotcha. I don't see why T-mobile wouldn't get this phone, as i said before, suppressing of information seems to be just a marketing strategy to not crush S4G sales coming up.
they wont get this phone immediatley as it will complete with the sgs 4g which they are getting.. eventually they may get it.
If the device is coming out in march outside the states, I'd think the new one will come out in some form in June or July like the last one did. That will give tmo a few months to sell their vibrant 4g and then allow it to be a decent midrange model thereafter. Considering that the 4g is going to be 149 with contract, its already the price of of a non flagship T-Mobile device. That could mean we have a small chance of getting this phone in April or may. They still need to make an aws version in order for us to have the phone on tmo. Given how much market share they made with the last galaxy I really think Samsung will want to not lose their lead in android market share. We will get at least some version of this phone. I hope now that US carriers all have ffc and the other features left out of the previous galaxy s for the states, that they won't need to give us a stripped gs2. Just my 2 cents.
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i'm waiting for the AWS version of the SGS2.... it's gonna be a long loooooooong wait, with the SGS4G stuck in between
I'm almost certain it is.
At least I'm hoping
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I'm almost certain it is.
At least I'm hoping
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that's one thing you do not need to worry about
look at the line of Galaxy S (Generation 1) phones, they have practically 1 variant for each single cell phone carrier on the planet.
some carriers even have 3 models of the same Galaxy S family
for example Tmobile USA have:
Galaxy S Vibrant
Nexus S
Galaxy S 4G
so we'll see our own flavor of SGS2 in due time
knowing their crazy naming scheme
i'll not be surprised to hear Galaxy S Vibrant II LOL
and probably comes with something chopped off like missing FFC or who knows what.
Hopefully they'll get some version of it... ATT blows..
So... any idea on how we're going to know which is the original phone model?
I guess we would just go off of the one coming out in March, and then try to buy that model off of whichever carrier carries it?
Because I wasn't very fond of the different versions of the Galaxy S - the Vibrant, the I9000 (which might be the same), the Captivate, the... who knows what else? Each carrier here (Rogers, Telus and Bell) had different versions. I don't even know what other ones like Virgin or WIND may have had for it (if they carried it).
I'm in New Zealand and i use telecom XT network (umts 850mhz) so obviously the at&t version will work fine. I also perhaps have the opportunity of buying the umts quadband version (850,900,1900,2100) which would probably not have the same restrictions as the at&t 4G.
However, from lurking here i can see that there seems to be more dev happening on the 4G, is this correct or would i be better off with the vanilla quadband 3g version? (im not 100% sure where the local stores source these vanilla phones from)
One day i might change to another provider in which case i would need 900 umts but if there is more chance of getting more bang for my buck with the 4g i will go that way.
Yeah it would be easier just to buy a galaxy 2 but its big and cheap feeling and i just dont trust samsung build quality or gps as much as the Moto.
thanks in advance.
the 4G is a marketing term from AT&T. its just 14mb HSPDA+
Whether a local version vs AT&T version is worth it, that is up to you
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the 4G is a marketing term from AT&T. its just 14mb HSPDA+
Whether a local version vs AT&T version is worth it, that is up to you
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Yep i understand that the 4g is just a marketing buzzword. What i'm asking is to me it looks like the vanilla phone appears to be identical hardware just with an extra 3g band? Also which model is likely to have the better dev support and moto support if they do decide to unlock the bootloader for certain ops?
Is the atrix 4g only sold on AT&T or are other operators also selling htis elsewhere in the world?
I'm just wanting to make sure i buy the model with the best support moving forward as it has to be a keeper for a while. I've flashed the absolute hell out of my milestone and sadly realise that due to the ram its never going to amount to much more.
Well, i was searching and i noticed that here is no section here for the 3G GSM version of ATRIX, just the 4G US version.
What about the european or south american (or even asian) versions? Does all this custom roms works for them too?
ravefolk said:
Well, i was searching and i noticed that here is no section here for the 3G GSM version of ATRIX, just the 4G US version.
What about the european or south american (or even asian) versions? Does all this custom roms works for them too?
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They are the same device essentially, and I'm pretty sure they're 4G enabled, just worded differently. They support HSDPA 14mbps (Cat 10) / HSUPA 2.0mbps which is HSPA in the US I think.
just the at&t atrix is currently unlockable but likely the international ones are getting unlocked with update so currently it is just possible for at&t atrix to flash custom roms, and the thing with the 3g/4g naming is region specific but the same hardware.
Here in germany 4g is lte, actually lte is called 3.9g so we don´t even have 4g
tehrules said:
They are the same device essentially, and I'm pretty sure they're 4G enabled, just worded differently. They support HSDPA 14mbps (Cat 10) / HSUPA 5.76mbps which is HSPA in the US I think.
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Fixed that for ya!
It's the same phone
Just switches automatically to 3g. But in EU the carriers have very expensive prices for hdspa connection. So i use it in 2g mode (leeeesss of battery consume).
Ok thanks to all of you very much. I'm a little outdated about wireless technologies and i tought 4G was cdma-based stuff. So hsdpa-hsupa are 4g gsm based technologies? I can flash my atrix with a custom rom with no problems?
Another thing that bothers me is all that acessories that comes in the pack. Remote control, dock, hdmi... will all this stuff work with the custom roms?
One last thing: Can i use it on hdmi without that "hdmi modes", just displaying whats on my screen like a game or movie, like i do with my xoom?
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Just out of curiosity, do all Atrix use the same 3G bands?
If not, wouldn't that affect software porting?
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Fixed that for ya!
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but th eofficial specs on motorola's website say 14.4 down and 2.0 upload, not 5.76. are you sure its 5.76Mbps HSUPA?
Will this work on T-mobile?
Is galaxy nexus best phone on t-mobile now?
Only BC of ICS. THE GS2 is better except screen Res.....I was disappointed in my gnex.....I think even my rezound is better
Edit: the unlocked works on T-Mo.....
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Only BC of ICS. THE GS2 is better except screen Res.....I was disappointed in my gnex.....I think even my rezound is better
Edit: the unlocked works on T-Mo.....
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Relivent much i don't think so .. it couldci know.some.cdma work on gsm
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dlb92 said:
Will this work on T-mobile?
Is galaxy nexus best phone on t-mobile now?
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check back on November 2012, they always release new (old flagship international quad band model of the same phone as) AWS 1700 phone at that time of the year
Does the phone have both the 1700 and 2100 bands, cant find a real spec list.
Thanks
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Does the phone have both the 1700 and 2100 bands, cant find a real spec list.
Thanks
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Here are some websites. I was looking for the same thing.
http://gdgt.com/samsung/galaxy/s/iii/specs/
https://negrielectronics.com/samsun...nlocked-pebble-blue.html#.T6Ldklc6aUs.twitter
Ya i saw both those sites, not that i dont trust them just they may be worng.
The UNPACKED app says:
3g (hspa+ 21mbpa): 850/900/1900/2100
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Which contradicts many websites which say 1700 will be included. Really hope Samsung's app is wrong...
saltmine said:
The UNPACKED app says:
Which contradicts many websites which say 1700 will be included. Really hope Samsung's app is wrong...
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I'm really hoping that is wrong as well. Would love to use this beast on Tmobile!
Excuse the noobish question, but to make sure I have this right - You need both 1700 and 2100 bands for the 3g or 4g to work at all, correct? Was looking into buying it once its released but that may be a deal breaker if no speedy internet.
Twisted Tom said:
I'm really hoping that is wrong as well. Would love to use this beast on Tmobile!
Excuse the noobish question, but to make sure I have this right - You need both 1700 and 2100 bands for the 3g or 4g to work at all, correct? Was looking into buying it once its released but that may be a deal breaker if no speedy internet.
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Yes, you need both, or you will be stuck using EDGE if you are on T-Mobile US.
I want to know the same, if the intentional version will surely work on Tmobile.
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I'd like to know about that as well
I think everyone here just wants to know when the hell it'll be coming out to our own carriers. I need a new phone but I'm not waiting until Fall for one.
Doesn't t-mobile uses the 1700/2100 for 3G and 2100 for 4G? so it would be EDGE and 4G.
So your implying that 4g will in fact work? I thought you needed both bands for 4g to work.
I'm in the Philadelphia area and really need to know if this will work or not.
If I can get 4g, ill be preordering the phone asap. If not.... I'm still undecided.
nope, im asking if thats the case. i need to ask the dude that know, since he is the manager at the t-mo store if thats rite. but t-mo one should be coming out in month or two.
What T-Mobile calls 4G is really their 3G HPSA network. They have not yet rolled out LTE. So for you to get the T-Mo 3G, you need the phone to support 1700/2100 band, which I am not sure the international SIII model does, but I'm almost certain it does not. Therefore, you will only get 2G (EDGE) speed, which is around 10-15kilobytes per second download, good enough for web browsing and loading Google Maps, it's about 3 times faster than 56k modem.
The T-Mobile-locked model will support the HPSA+ 42Mbps speed and AT&T version will have LTE of course. Now whether if when this phone get released for T-Mobile and somehow it will preemptively support their future LTE service (launch in 2013), then that would be interesting (which inherently the hardware does support LTE due to the Qualcomm S4 chip to be used in American models). What I predict they will do is like with the Galaxy Vibrant -> Galaxy S 4G, so first release the HSPA+ only version, then release a slightly modified version that support LTE.
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2012/05/04/GALAXY-S-III
If this doesn't confirm lack of 1700, nothing does.
So basically, count on the international version not being usable (besides EDGE) on T-mobile. You'll have to wait for them to up with their own version.
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http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2012/05/04/GALAXY-S-III
If this doesn't confirm lack of 1700, nothing does.
So basically, count on the international version not being usable (besides EDGE) on T-mobile. You'll have to wait for them to up with their own version.
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Dammit why does T-mobile use such obscure frequencies!