HTC
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information in the next few days...
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http://www.facebook.com/HTC
Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
In other words we see you are mad but we really don't care but we acknowledge your issue. Now kick rocks.
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Cares said:
Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
So... is there going to be a new thread every 5 minutes now ?
We must unite and destroy their credibiltiy sire ....wait what....
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Let's see what they say. This doesn't just effect HTC but the Evo 4G has been their top selling handset. Granted, Nexus 4G is what we (well, lots of us) will go to but the ability to customize our devices could easily move people away from Sprint.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
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Not sure what updates you are referring to but the Nexus gets updates first in most cases as it's "pure Google". I guess this might be bad if you are a believer in and reliant on Sense but for the AOSP group, it's AOK because it's what we are all trying to get to anyway.
I want to stick with HTC and the Evo/Evo 3D but may have to jump ship. Look on the bright side, at least our wireless provider HAS the next best thing.
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Not sure what updates you are referring to but the Nexus gets updates first in most cases as it's "pure Google". I guess this might be bad if you are a believer in and reliant on Sense but for the AOSP group, it's AOK because it's what we are all trying to get to anyway.
I want to stick with HTC and the Evo/Evo 3D but may have to jump ship. Look on the bright side, at least our wireless provider HAS the next best thing.
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I think he was probably referring to the Galaxy S II. A lot of people see the NS4G as old tech and not worth the purchase. Accordingly, they see the SGS2 as the next best thing if the EVO3D will retain the status of the locked bootloader.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
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That's pretty much how I read it. They're probably going to give some generic statement about why they're doing what they're doing and not change their position one bit.
Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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I think your sig should say: xda's numero uno hater
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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or they could release the god-damned key they encrypt the sig with.
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I think your sig should say: xda's numero uno hater
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no not at all as i was going to get this phone as well. i owned the evo just like most of you did. im just saying them correcting this at launch probably won't happen, if at all.
just as us nexus users know damn well if our radio issues are hardware related samsung or sprint will not issue a recall.
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I think he was probably referring to the Galaxy S II. A lot of people see the NS4G as old tech and not worth the purchase. Accordingly, they see the SGS2 as the next best thing if the EVO3D will retain the status of the locked bootloader.
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Makes sense... I just get antsy when I'm up for an upgrade and I sometimes forget not everyone is on the 12 month plan. Nexus, yes... Galaxy and new carrier, I never even considered it but the 3D situation surely does suck all the way around.
Sprint is geting the Galaxy S II.. It will be called the Samsung Within, and it will be the exact same as Verizon and AT&T's... No Keyboard.
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Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
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Sprint is geting the Galaxy S II.. It will be called the Samsung Within, and it will be the exact same as Verizon and AT&T's... No Keyboard.
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Zero confirmation other than a random website.
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Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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We have witnesses and will hold you to that!
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Wow...are they to be believed?
Source? Link?
https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
HTC came through big time!
Wow. Big ups for HTC. Not only was that fast but exactly what people wanted.
Yeahhhhhhhh thank you htc
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does this mean evo 3d will not be locked/signed/whatever? or will they have to release something to the public to be able to unlock/unsign/whatever?
thats the big question...will there be a OTA update or will they release the key to the community?
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Wow...are they to be believed?
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everone needs to head over to htc and thank them for doing this great thing for us
WE DID IT!!!! I can't believe we did it!!!
America...**** YEAH!
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thats the big question...will there be a OTA update or will they release the key to the community?
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I am very very very very very curious about this. They know the key so in theory they could probably easily issue an OTA or an elective RUU. I'm very very curious about the logistics of this.
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I am very very very very very curious about this. They know the key so in theory they could probably easily issue an OTA or an elective RUU. I'm very very curious about the logistics of this.
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Hopefully they release an official statement on how this will go down soon.
Wow really shows that when you speak up in numbers change can happen...And its back on for the Evo 3d!!!!!!
Wow, I'm speechless. What a huge decision. The 3D is gonna be awesome!
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everyone who hasnt, go preorder! lol... before we get the guarantee that they will release a key or what have you for the 3D
+ America, F*ck Yea!
HTC is now the most respected company in the mobile business now. Best PR move they have ever made.
I know who's phones I will continue to buy. I really hope it applies to the Evo3D.
I was so pissed and so certain that they wouldn't do anything but lip service that I nearly got a NexusS4G today....I was so amped on getting a new phone that I didn't care what it was--so long as it wasn't from HTC.
...glad I didn't do that. Preorder is still on... eff year
This is why I didn't cancel my pre-order. Imagine if people tried this against apple. Wouldn't get anywhere...
Basically at this point I feel sprint has no intention of releasing the date anytime soon for the 3d release date. So what I feel we need to do is all of us need to contact sprint as much and often as possible to try and force some info out of them. I can sit here and find out release for movies and games 6 months in advance but cant get any info out of sprint other then soon. I feel we need to show sprint there is a demand for information and customers dont like being in the dark when sprint already has a good bit of our money in pocket. All we have been asking for is a date thats all we want. So I encourage u to call and email sprint as much as u can.
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Meh. It'll be released when its ready. Just deal with the fact of not knowing and get over it. Knowing when its coming wont change the date you get it in your hands.
Tapa tapa tapa
SMH
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Its not really about getting my hands on it. its more about the fact that I did them a service by handing over my money for my pre order. I just want them to respect that enough to tell me what I feel is vital information. I would like to schedule my day off with the release date so I can explore my new phone. I cant do that without a date. Unfortunately I work at a place that I cannot just call in sick or use personal days without notice.
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Its not going to happen man. Its really not even worth the time sitting on the phone to harass Sprint to even get the information. Yes it would be nice to have, but they will let us know more when more information is ready. They aren't going to say, HEY its coming out tomorrow, HOPE YOUR READY. They will give you ample time for you to make plans if you need. I can be almost certain of this. Be patient.
At this point I'm more excited to see these stupid threads go away than actually getting my 3D.
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http://twitpic.com/53omkp
We might hear something tomorrow.
karan1203 said:
http://twitpic.com/53omkp
We might hear something tomorrow.
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We haven't heard that before lol
im not watching that pre race show or whatever...hopeful though
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Basically at this point I feel sprint has no intention of releasing the date anytime soon for the 3d release date. So what I feel we need to do is all of us need to contact sprint as much and often as possible to try and force some info out of them. I can sit here and find out release for movies and games 6 months in advance but cant get any info out of sprint other then soon. I feel we need to show sprint there is a demand for information and customers dont like being in the dark when sprint already has a good bit of our money in pocket. All we have been asking for is a date thats all we want. So I encourage u to call and email sprint as much as u can.
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To be honest I believe everyone that has a source is probably telling the truth. The reason why alot of the sources come with a different date is probably because not even sprint knows yet. Any effort to try to gain knowledge of a release would be pointless and really noone would join in.
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think her twitpics are evo3d pics?
Vvlioncourtvv said:
Basically at this point I feel sprint has no intention of releasing the date anytime soon for the 3d release date. So what I feel we need to do is all of us need to contact sprint as much and often as possible to try and force some info out of them. I can sit here and find out release for movies and games 6 months in advance but cant get any info out of sprint other then soon. I feel we need to show sprint there is a demand for information and customers dont like being in the dark when sprint already has a good bit of our money in pocket. All we have been asking for is a date thats all we want. So I encourage u to call and email sprint as much as u can.
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Dude!!! It's just a phone. Be cool!!! It will be released when they decide to release it. I'm sure you will be able to survive....good grief man
I would rather not hear a release date, and let them get the phone compleatly finished and get enough unit out to the store to keep shortages from happening, then to get a release date b4 they know if they can be fully ready or not.
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think her twitpics are evo3d pics?
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Could be. Not that clear.
vinterchaos said:
think her twitpics are evo3d pics?
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Nope, it's from a Galaxy Tab. EXIF data said "SPH-P100", which is a Galaxy Tab.
cjcamilla said:
Nope, it's from a Galaxy Tab. EXIF data said "SPH-P100", which is a Galaxy Tab.
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good deal, didn't think to check that
looks like the evo3d to me in the pic....
What we should do is open more threads on the same thing. That way we can flood XDA, and then Sprint will notice and tell us the release date. It's a fool proof plan.
From my soon to be Evo 3D
Seen this on twitter....
"Yes!* I know the suspense has reached it's boiling point...but it will be announced soon!" -Sprint
I say we spam @sprint asking for a release date. lol
Nsandhu23 said:
What we should do is open more threads on the same thing. That way we can flood XDA, and then Sprint will notice and tell us the release date. It's a fool proof plan.
From my soon to be Evo 3D
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I hope you were joking. All thats gonna do is piss of the mods.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
Just got a notification for an over the air update any one know what it is.
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other then the original?
I read in one of the other several threads that mention it that it had something to do with the calendar.
Wait what original
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calendar fix and new hboot. just hit cancel and wait til the devs figure things out.
O if this was already posted i apologies
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Calendar fix for force close when editing an event
I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
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I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
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Wow that's what I'm talking about sprint can you tell me everything that is included in the update
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Sprint customer service--in the past 6 years anyway--has never let me down and never fails to impress me.
The only listed item is for calendar entries that were force closing when they were being edited. Beyond that we have no information that anything else was included. The issue seems to have been enough to warrant a maintenance release apparently.
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I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
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If you are who you say you are, any reason why this isn't unlocked? I mean, for real. Think about it... The devs on xda pretty much decide shoot to which phones are purchased due to the customability and let me just say, after 100's of hours of deving on the EVO, I will not be happy if the 3d isn't rooted sooner than later..
Kick it in gear and get us the unlock update
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I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
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top issue is getting the bootloader unlocked...
deliver that and you will be somebody
^^
mattvalenz said:
The only listed item is for calendar entries that were force closing when they were being edited. Beyond that we have no information that anything else was included. The issue seems to have been enough to warrant a maintenance release apparently.
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What information do you have on the (what I presume would be an) OTA that will address the crypto-signed bootloader that HTC promised to "unlock" for us?
...and if not an OTA form will it be an RUU? If not that, then what? This is a MAJOR ISSUE to all of us here...if it is not addressed to our satisfaction I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that +95% of us WILL return our phones in 30 days.
In summation, how will this issue be address by HTC and/or Sprint?
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The only listed item is for calendar entries that were force closing when they were being edited. Beyond that we have no information that anything else was included. The issue seems to have been enough to warrant a maintenance release apparently.
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Does it say anything about removing the dialer app from the lockscreen after update?
Leoisright said:
If you are who you say you are, any reason why this isn't unlocked?
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I'd imagine the fact that hundreds of thousands of phones were already manufactured and packaged played into this...not to mention the corporate rigamarole involved in software development and then the politics involved in every department, subsidiary, manager and then the same at Sprint having to play their game...
My troll radar is screwy on this...
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I'm a Launch Product Ambassador with Sprint supporting the EVO 3D. Please let me know if you have questions about the update. We are actively monitoring XDA Dev and want to be sure we capture and address all issues.
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No need to monitor xda if the phone can't be rooted.
daneurysm said:
I'd imagine the fact that hundreds of thousands of phones were already manufactured and packaged played into this...not to mention the corporate rigamarole involved in software development and then the politics involved in every department, subsidiary, manager and then the same at Sprint having to play their game...
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And a simple ota would solve all that. I'm sticking with my original thoughts. Seriously, how many people follow myn or virus and decide to get phone they use because of what team synergy is working on? Trust me, 2 million hits on rl5 alone for myn. Tmartin and myself watched 150k hits in a couple days when we ported the first sense 3 to the EVO.... Before kingdom... Trust me...non devs get like phones of great devs and a simple ota to unlock it is an easy fix... Not to mention keep strong loyalty for future evos... And better yet, sell a lot more once it hits xda that its rootable.
Just a thought
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You're a Sprint what? Hahah... Bluescreen? Is that you?
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I don't know....XDA is a rather renowned entity these days, especially in this business. i wouldn't be shocked to hear they devoted one $12 an hour lacky to keep an eye on it...though, I'd also be surprised if that lacky had the meaty information we actually want.
...then why send him here?
But then again, Sprint reps I've talked to are universally less useful than most people on here (excepting, of course, Sprint employees who work here--never met one)...
..but then again, that would further illustrate how out of touch they are...
...but then again that would be a fantastic trolling angle...
For the HTC EVO 4G LTE. Let's root!
Is cm9 available for this device?
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Is cm9 available for this device?
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Lmfao....What do you think? In case you need help the answer in no.
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When will Jellybean be available. I need an exact date. Please.
FattySparks said:
When will Jellybean be available. I need an exact date. Please.
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June of NEVER
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Let's not start trolling.
Thanks.
10 more days
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Let's not start trolling.
Thanks.
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No trolling intended. Just havin some fun being sarcastic.
So, I just picked up my new EVO 4G LTE, how can I haz root to flash MIUI Jellybean?
This is going to be fun! Looks like some truly legendary devs have made pre-orders!
BTW, to the MODS.. Thanks for opening up a forum for us!
Thanks!
-jamie
I wonder if the root process will be as simple as the HTC One and One X?
I would think it would be similar, since the phones are so similar.
But what do I know. I'm not even close to being a dev.
dont mean to kill the mood, but this is the dev section guys. lets move the discussion to the general section. lets not give our new moderator a tough time before the phone even launches
mikebeam said:
I wonder if the root process will be as simple as the HTC One and One X?
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I had read the One X had a locked bootloader... is it already cracked open?
I plan on getting this Evo, so hopefully it isn't a couple months before s-off and root is attained again. I would rather not have hindered development this time around.
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I had read the One X had a locked bootloader... is it already cracked open?
I plan on getting this Evo, so hopefully it isn't a couple months before s-off and root is attained again. I would rather not have hindered development this time around.
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When did you get your evo. it had root before day 1. A couple of times it got lost, but only to people on new devices and people who couldn't wait for the devs to get a hold of the new Stock ROMs.
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dont mean to kill the mood, but this is the dev section guys. lets move the discussion to the general section. lets not give our new moderator a tough time before the phone even launches
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This 100%
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ImaWinRAR said:
dont mean to kill the mood, but this is the dev section guys. lets move the discussion to the general section. lets not give our new moderator a tough time before the phone even launches
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We'll give you 2 brownie points for that little comment...hahahaha
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This is going to be fun! Looks like some truly legendary devs have made pre-orders!
BTW, to the MODS.. Thanks for opening up a forum for us!
Thanks!
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Is there any doubt this is the next benchmark phone. The OGEvo is still in my opinion the only SuperPhone. A first of many standards, and the only phone i know you can plug directly into the TV for watching Vids.
I have lived off contract for the last 4 years. Yes i finally used my Upgrade for this phone.
Who is the forum mod anyways?
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I would imagine root would be very similar to one x international. Use HTC unlock, fastboot recovery, flash superuser.
I am sure other ways will come as well, but I suspect that will be the first
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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i feel ya...nervous about the fact that we just got official 4.4.4
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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Welcome to AT&T! Home of the slowest updates. And according to the HTC site AT&T is still only in "Stage 2 - Integration stage" meaning their still loading all their bull**** bloatware onto it. Haven't even begun testing.
They gave up on the m8. I think anyone who knows phones will soff and go to Dev or flash international
Here is AT&T's "reply" (if thats what you want to call it) to Lollipop release.
https://twitter.com/ATTCares/status/564471888064557056
woodydog said:
They gave up on the m8.
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Based on what?
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Based on what?
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I dont think they've given up on the M8, I just think they need to fire the whole dev department.
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I dont think they've given up on the M8, I just think they need to fire the whole dev department.
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I don't think they've given up either. At least HTC certainly hasn't, as for now its still the premiere flagship in their lineup. As for AT&T, they've always been agonizingly slow on updates, and have actually been doing better on the M8 than some past devices.
It also needs to be considered that AT&T/HTC included a feature that on 4.4.4 that the other versions don't have (VoLTE) so comparing the release dates is a bit apples and oranges.
Hopefully 5.0 won't be as delayed. You would think that since they now figured out the VoLTE issue, we wouldn't have a similar delay on LP. On the other hand, it would seem a bit odd to have 5.0 roll out right after 4.4.4.
Well ladies and gentlemen its official, we're the last to get the Lollipop update. Sprints M8 just got it. AT&T, theres a seat in hell for these people.
Its being worked on...shouldnt be too long till its released,thats all ill say about this topic.
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Its being worked on...shouldnt be too long till its released,thats all ill say about this topic.
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Holding out insider information on us? Thats not very lady like.
Not a lady lol and nope just saying its not far away.
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Holding out insider information on us? Thats not very lady like.
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Well ain't this special, the LG G3 is the first AT&T phone to get Lollipop.
How could it be that the One M8 update is not ready for release at this time?
Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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Are definitely allowed to have an opinion,but to be rude,uncalled for. You dont have to believe anything...lol and yup youll be waiting...jasonmac tweeted an expected t.a. in the next few weeks. So believe what you like,but how about cutting the rudeness...just a suggestion.
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Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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I know at&t is horrible at updates but they just barely fixed the volte so that's why it took long, and please don't disrespect the devs or anyone that contributes anything to this forum, because I bet when they release a ROM you'll be trying to flash it
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Are definitely allowed to have an opinion,but to be rude,uncalled for. You dont have to believe anything...lol and yup youll be waiting...jasonmac tweeted an expected t.a. in the next few weeks. So believe what you like,but how about cutting the rudeness...just a suggestion.
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Next couple weeks! Jesus, even Canadian M8's got the update already. Someone needs to light a fire under AT&T's azz.
Is what it is,*****in n moaning about aint gonna do anything...Im done..Ill keep things to my few select people.Let someone else find out info
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Is what it is,*****in n moaning about aint gonna do anything...Im done..Ill keep things to my few select people.Let someone else find out info
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True, just sucks being last. If it wasnt for AT&T having VoLTE I'd just convert to international.
Maybe they are waiting for Google to fix the memory leak issue plaguing current LP versions?