So I tried one of the tricks floating around to sort of calibrate the batter. I charged to 100% like any normal charge, then in Tenfar's I wiped the battery stats. Then, as a guide said, I have let my battery completely die. However, I plugged my phone into my WALL charger, and it immediately started booting but it booted into Tenfar's..... I thought that was weird, but then I clicked on reboot system to have it boot normally, and it just died again partway through. I turned it on again after unplugging and replugging, but it booted into Tenfar's again. Then I left it there for a sec to see if it could gather some charge while in that screen, but it just died again. I don't know why it's not working...?
Ohhh crap. You've done it now. You have to sbf flash, but honestly I don't know if you have enough charge for that.. what you did is disable the feature to charge without fully booting up, and your phone automatically goes into recovery which doesn't actually charge the phone.
I believe your best bet is to buy a new battery, or go into AT&T and use one of their batterys... switch to charge mode in tenfars recovery app, switch back to your dead battery, let it charge. Then your good. make sure your Atrix NEVER dies while in recovery mode (set from the cwm app.)
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Well, while in the CWM recovery, I clicked reboot again, but this time I quickly pulled the charger out and then plugged it back in, and it worked. It must have started taking the charge again because it finished booting up and now my phone is working well and is charged again! Crisis averted.
But really...why did tenfar's even open up right when I plugged my phone in? I hadn't been using it recently or anything..
Draining the battery down to zero does not need to be done on lithium batteries. That is a trick for NiCad batteries to keep them from building a memory.
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Beard, tenfars cwm is hacked so that it works on the Atrix. The way it works is replacing that charging thing with the recovery.
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Beard, tenfars cwm is hacked so that it works on the Atrix. The way it works is replacing that charging thing with the recovery.
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What do you mean? What "charging thing"?
Also, Sifon, so basically the threads that gave methods of battery calibration that involved draining to zero were lying to me? those dastards! Thanks for the tip though, I'll be sure to never EVER EVER EVER do that again lol.
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What do you mean? What "charging thing"?
Also, Sifon, so basically the threads that gave methods of battery calibration that involved draining to zero were lying to me? those dastards! Thanks for the tip though, I'll be sure to never EVER EVER EVER do that again lol.
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Internet sarcasm doesn't work . But seriously, these Lithium Batteries physically do not gain anything from being fully discharged. Keyword physically
Battery Calibration
Sorry to hear you had a scare... right now the cwm situation is a bit sketchy but booting to recovery is a must. Now I'm not gonna start a whole "liion batteries don't need depletion because they have no memory yada yada" convo but the the results don't lie and let me explain why.
From what I've learned from my xda lurking, there is an amount of battery that is reserved so that it isn't completely dead. Now with all our meddling and rebooting this can get out of sync thus reporting wrong battery stats. The only time it has to learn new battery stats is when it has been forced manually ( calibration app found in the nexus forums) or when android reports that it thinks the battery is dead. So instead of 5% being 5% its more like 5% is 20% so from what I've observed and tested is that when bad battery drain is attributed to this you will experience 100% drain to 60% very rapidly and then it slows down. When bad battery drain is attributed to a rogue app it drains rapidly regardless of the amount of charge and doesn't really slow down at all.
Just so were on the same page I agree that the actual battery is fine ( no liion battery memory ) its android that gets a lil screwey. So in theory this doesn't make sense... I know.. but the results speak for themselves.. 4 hours up and 94% left... facebook twitter and gmail all synced once an hour. Before I would have been at 80% and then it would slow down. I hope someone can benefit from this
Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Well I am sorry too, because I did not realize how Android handled the battery. Since Android can incorrectly detect the battery level, these methods should work on the OS side.
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Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Well I am sorry too, because I did not realize how Android handled the battery. Since Android can incorrectly detect the battery level, these methods should work on the OS side.
BTW, your battery life is kicking mines ass right now
Okay, my battery seems even more screwed up now. It dropped 10% in like an hour after I left my apartment this morning, and I barely used it, Wifi/data weren't on...The real kicker is I just got back to my apartment and noticed it dropped another 10% during a timespan that I literally didn't even look at my phone once, over like another hour or so...wtf?
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Okay, my battery seems even more screwed up now. It dropped 10% in like an hour after I left my apartment this morning, and I barely used it, Wifi/data weren't on...The real kicker is I just got back to my apartment and noticed it dropped another 10% during a timespan that I literally didn't even look at my phone once, over like another hour or so...wtf?
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You may just have a faulty battery. Id call Moto, or go to a ATT store and see if you can get a replacement.
Before you get a new battery I'd like to try something. Drain it down nice and good (say 3% - 5%) then plug into your wall, enter cwm and hit charge mode. This should charge your phone when it is off. Unless you need an alarm
If after that it still gives you grief, then its time to call moto.
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First let me apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm not posting this properly.....but..............
My son mailed his htc hd2 to me and it just arrived in the mail. I opened it, turned it on and it all looked great except it said "no sim card". I turned it back off and inserted the sim card, and pressed the power button.................NOTHING......
What have I done wrong?
Please help me!
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First let me apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm not posting this properly.....but..............
My son mailed his htc hd2 to me and it just arrived in the mail. I opened it, turned it on and it all looked great except it said "no sim card". I turned it back off and inserted the sim card, and pressed the power button.................NOTHING......
What have I done wrong?
Please help me!
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This is now happening on my replacement phone! I got the first phone replaced because it wasn't charging but now it's happening again on the replacement. It seems to only happen when the battery gets to 20% or lower. When it does this, it doesn't matter if it is USB or wall charging. I have been able to get the new phone to charge now twice by rebooting - one time it took three reboots. The first time it happened on my first phone the battery widget stuck on 50% and I didn't get the low battery warning and the battery went to 0 before I knew it and it took forever to begin charging again. I've been on different battery modes when it happens, so that isn't causing it.
I've mentioned this on a couple other threads and there's been others that responded it happened to them, so I thought I'd start a thread on this in case Motorola is monitoring this forum (they better be). Anyone else chime in here so we can get a feel for how widespread this may be.
Just let mine go down to 20 plugged up and its charging but im only on day one
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This is now happening on my replacement phone! I got the first phone replaced because it wasn't charging but now it's happening again on the replacement. It seems to only happen when the battery gets to 20% or lower. When it does this, it doesn't matter if it is USB or wall charging. I have been able to get the new phone to charge now twice by rebooting - one time it took three reboots. The first time it happened on my first phone the battery widget stuck on 50% and I didn't get the low battery warning and the battery went to 0 before I knew it and it took forever to begin charging again. I've been on different battery modes when it happens, so that isn't causing it.
I've mentioned this on a couple other threads and there's been others that responded it happened to them, so I thought I'd start a thread on this in case Motorola is monitoring this forum (they better be). Anyone else chime in here so we can get a feel for how widespread this may be.
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Have you tried doing a hard reset and letting the phone sit for 20 minutes. It could be some kind of bug. I know mine had some force closes on the first day. I did a hard reset from recovery and let the phone sit at first boot. Then did a reboot and have had no problems since.
Master reset for photon 4g.
http://https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/69069/~/photon-4g---master-reset-%2F-factory-data-reset
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Have you tried doing a hard reset and letting the phone sit for 20 minutes. It could be some kind of bug. I know mine had some force closes on the first day. I did a hard reset from recovery and let the phone sit at first boot. Then did a reboot and have had no problems since.
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http://https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/69069/~/photon-4g---master-reset-%2F-factory-data-reset
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I did a factory reset on the first phone and that didn't change this problem.
I haven't seen this problem on my phone. Best thing to do is report it to the Motorola forums and have them look at it especially if many others are experiencing the same issue.
In the mean time, you possibly could have another bad unit. Not sure why it would not charge when the battery hits 20% or lower. Also what battery widget are you using?
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I haven't seen this problem on my phone. Best thing to do is report it to the Motorola forums and have them look at it especially if many others are experiencing the same issue.
In the mean time, you possibly could have another bad unit. Not sure why it would not charge when the battery hits 20% or lower. Also what battery widget are you using?
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Good idea on the Moto forums. I have tried Battery Monitor widget, Circle Battery widget and Battery Notifier (big text) widget. No one widget was in use or installed for every instance I had a battery charge problem, but I guess it may be more than one widget with potential interferences. Has anyone else been using any of these widgets and not experienced this problem?
@Beartrap
What battery widgets etc have you installed? Sounds like a compatability issue with something that was installed. Try using the phone completely stock with no custom widgets installed. If you can get the phone back to stock out of box condition that would be the best way to troubleshoot this problem. I doubt it's another bad phone.
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What battery widgets etc have you installed? Sounds like a compatability issue with something that was installed. Try using the phone completely stock with no custom widgets installed. If you can get the phone back to stock out of box condition that would be the best way to troubleshoot this problem. I doubt it's another bad phone.
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I agree it's not a bad phone, but some bug either in the phone or installed app/widget. I'd like to know what battery widgets people are using that haven't had this issue so I know what's safe.
Not exactly related to battery widgets but i have noticed that Estrong's, Astro and File Expert file managers do not work correctly on my Photon. They don't show the full capacity of my 16gb sd card and they also don't show all the files in my download folder. So I'm thinking theirs going to be more incompatability issues with this phone until app developers get some updates rolled out for this phone.
As for battery widgets, i don't use them. I use the stock battery ifo that is included with the Photon. Sorry I can't give any help with that. but I'm pretty sure the widgets in the Android Market will not be fully compatible with the Photon. Uninstall everything you installed from the market and use your phone for a day or so and see how it acts.
I'm having the same issue, i'm not using any sorta battery widget/app, just stock(non-rooted).
Its been charging for about 4 hours today and went from 20% to 30% and its hot, really hot.
I've had it since day one and seems to match what the OP is saying about once it goes below 20-30% it has a hard time charging but like i mentioned before, mine gets toasty when its failing at charging.
Also had an issue while streaming from google music beta, went from 100 to 20% in <2 hours and once again it was hot as the devil's **** then it wouldn't charge.
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I'm having the same issue, i'm not using any sorta battery widget/app, just stock(non-rooted).
Its been charging for about 4 hours today and went from 20% to 30% and its hot, really hot.
I've had it since day one and seems to match what the OP is saying about once it goes below 20-30% it has a hard time charging but like i mentioned before, mine gets toasty when its failing at charging.
Also had an issue while using streaming from google music beta, when from 100 to 20% in <2 hours and once again it was hot as the devil's ****.
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I did fail to mention that each time I did notice the back of the phone was pretty warm but not what I'd consider real hot. The third time this happened (on second phone), I cooled it down to room temperature and it still wouldn't charge.
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I did fail to mention that each time I did notice the back of the phone was pretty warm but not what I'd consider real hot. The third time this happened (on second phone), I cooled it down to room temperature and it still wouldn't charge.
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Well it got hotter the my evo 4g ever did after flashing many roms and kernels and what not and even hotter the my pre minus when simultaneously charging and tethering. Havent had a phone get that hot before, i'll try to get a temp reading when it happens again.
Just pulled the battery little while ago and it started charging again. Seems to be hit or miss with the restarts and battery pulls the get the thing going.
I havent tried just turning it off and letting it charge past 30% yet, to see if it only does it when it on vs. when it off.
It's happened again. I was running speedtest.net repeatedly to test my radios and my battery temp climbed up to 118F. I checked if the phone would charge periodically and it did until the battery got less than 30%. It seems to be this combination that causes the malfunction. I rebooted and it charged fine, but the temp also fell to 115F, so I don't know if it was the reboot or lower temp, but at least now I know how to get it to recharge and not run th and it always charged, battery down to 0.
I tried to make this happen the other night by running quadrant repeatedly, but temps never went above 115. It always charged that night, so 115-118 is the magic number together with <30% battery.
BTW - our radios may kickass, but they also generate a lot of heat, so be on the alert to high battery temps when hitting the radios hard.
My first Photon had the problem where the battery went from 50% to DEAD immediately. I remember one time the phone was red hot to the touch right before it died, it was just idling. It wouldn't accept charge until I removed and replaced the battery.
My replacement Photon doesn't have the problem (yet) or any of the first Photon's problems. I am convinced there is a bad batch of Photons out there.
Unfortunately I'm on my second photon. I exchanged the first for this reason.
Do any of you happen to use a case with a magnet in it? I've only had this happen twice and both times it was in a case. Now it doesn't happen.
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Do any of you happen to use a case with a magnet in it? I've only had this happen twice and both times it was in a case. Now it doesn't happen.
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I am using the black Sprint case, but there's no magnet in it. I do think the case may aggrevate the heat buildup so if I hit it hard again and feel it getting warm, I'll be sure to remove the case.
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I checked if the phone would charge periodically and it did until the battery got less than 30%. It seems to be this combination that causes the malfunction. I rebooted and it charged fine, but the temp also fell to 115F, so I don't know if it was the reboot or lower temp, but at least now I know how to get it to recharge and not run th and it always charged, battery down to 0.
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This theory just got shot down. I hooked up the USB charging cable at 62% and 84F and it wouldn't charge. The phone recognized the connection and displayed the message it was in charge mode, but the battery in the notification bar didn't show it was charging nor did battery monitor widget. I then connected it to the OEM wall charger and cable and nothing. I rebooted and no change. I shutdown the phone and hooked it up to AC and it went into charge mode. I then booted and it's going into charge mode as it should. I'm back to square one again.
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Unfortunately I'm on my second photon. I exchanged the first for this reason.
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That doesn't matter, you have every right to exchange it 283892 times until you get one that works. within the 30 days, It is in our contract. Not sure why people don't understand this. It doesn't matter where you get it, what store you get it from, Sprint, Best Buy, Radio ****, bob's electronics supply..you can get it exchanged. Personally, I wouldn't have even hesitated nor made this post, I would have just exchanged it.
Then made this post to say what happened to a photon I used to have. lol
EDIT: People need to speak up and let companies understand that you just won't settle. I come across customers everyday that just settle. I work for Comcast, talk to customers daily about things. I get, oh yea and then our internet sucks, and this doesn't work and oh yea this broke and we don't get this channel but we pay for it. My first question is, "Did you call?"....their answer, "Call who?"..or just "No". LOL I'm like, how the hell do you think stuff will get fixed if no one knows you have any problems? haha
You are the consumer, you have a lot of rights to the product you paid money for.
This is a great phone, but like all electronics some stores might get a bad shipment, it happens.
Good Luck with whatever you choose to do.
I have exchanged mine 2 times, 1 had a messed up screen, the other 1 had some problem that I couldn't make calls. So far this one is good to go! The Charm
-DJ
Scroll down to my 3rd comment please.
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Hello, i have had my G5 for almost a year now and when i first bought it on 2.1 the battery wasnt the best, but it would last a full day, but now ive updated to 2.2 ages ago and ive noticed how bad the battery has got- its dying in under an hour which is obviously a very big issue.
Also i left it on charge over night and when i woke up this morning and checked it, it was on 19% battery when i checked before i slept and it was on 90%- confused!
Also i have to play around with my charger alot for it to actually work- whilst my usb cable will work with no issues- has my charger been damaged or broke?
The phone keeps doing a random vibrate in a specific pattern- this happens quite reguarly and has done since i updated to 2.2- i have tried factory reseting but that hasnt done nothing, the pattern is similiar to vibrate, few seconds gap, vibrate vibrate, its very annoying.
When i flashed my phone to CM7 and MadTeams Better 2.2 i did not have the vibrating issue- i have flashed it back to stock now.
Also when i close an app or come out of a menu my home screen applications and widgets often disappear for about 15 seconds which is very frustrating.
My phone is on stock 2.2 Froyo- Rooted with Universal Androot.
Thank you very much!
Curtis.
Also sorry for posting plenty of threads here recently!
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I had that charging problem on my old phone, it something wrong with your charger. try replace it or use a different one
with your battery problem, how heavily do you use your phone? Maybe because your charger is faulty, you go to charge it, but it doesnt charge properly. if my battery is at 1% and i put my charger in for 10 seconds, it will show 17% charged. this is obviously not charged that much, but could be what your battery is doing, so when it shows high battery level, its actually got a lower one.
Drain your battery
When on 1%, plug in your charger and leave it in until the 'Charged' notification appears in your notification bar. see if that changes battery length.
That sorted my old phone
It seems all you do Jordanooo is help me!
Ill give it a try tonight, and i use my phone just to text friends, phone calls, facebook/twitter and updating applications.
My phone has been charging since about 12pm, its now twenty to 2, and its on 13% charge- my signal is on 50% without- il try airplane trick.
Right i seriously need help now guys.
My battery is completely and utterly- f*cked.
It says it is charging but it doesnt charge- the number changes but it goes for 80% then drop to 70% etc so i can never get a full charge.
I thought i fixed it last night when i drained it and recharged it back to as high as i could get it (94%), unlocked it this morning and it went from 70% when i locked it last night to 50%- and thats not the worst part- i sent 3 texts and it went to 15% battery, yes, 15%.
I am appaled at it and its well and truly put me off buying another Android phone or Samsung phone.
I need help now, if you guys cant fix it for me, my warranty is over from Carphone Warehouse and i cant be arsed with it.
I cant afford to simply go and buy a new phone so please dont say that kind of dumb suggestion.
Thank you.
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Right i seriously need help now guys.
My battery is completely and utterly- f*cked.
It says it is charging but it doesnt charge- the number changes but it goes for 80% then drop to 70% etc so i can never get a full charge.
I thought i fixed it last night when i drained it and recharged it back to as high as i could get it (94%), unlocked it this morning and it went from 70% when i locked it last night to 50%- and thats not the worst part- i sent 3 texts and it went to 15% battery, yes, 15%.
I am appaled at it and its well and truly put me off buying another Android phone or Samsung phone.
I need help now, if you guys cant fix it for me, my warranty is over from Carphone Warehouse and i cant be arsed with it.
I cant afford to simply go and buy a new phone so please dont say that kind of dumb suggestion.
Thank you.
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Well, even i had this problem w/my G5...... it seriously sux.
My phone also loses battery quite fast.... but not as fast as yours.
Switching it off and then plugging in the charger will keep the phone off while charging it. Few seconds after you plug it in, the screen will light up and and show a battery.
Leave it this way till it is completely charged.(Press the home button if the screen goes off).
Best of luck.
Thanks
It works as a short term fix, il charge like it like this until i get a new battery/repair my phone!
Hey there,
I have my Vibrant for a good year now since it came out pretty much. Last week it just stopped charging out the blue. The battery is completely empty and shows a thermometer with a warning sign and stops charging seconds after its plugged in. So I assumed it might be a battery malfunction and I got my spare battery in as soon as I came home and tried charging - same problem. I think it is highly unlikely that both batteries fail at the same time. Therefore, I assume there is something wrong with the temp sensor in the phone. I saw a few people have a similar problem with the epic 4G, but the discussion got really side tracked by other issues. My phone is rooted, but I was running stock froyo, so that shouldn't be the problem or should it?
I just wanna know if anybody had the same problems and if there is a quick solution, I google and forum searched a while but as soon as you throw in the term battery it gets spammed with battery life discussions.I just checked my files I have on the phone, apparently I have the premium insurance - does that mean I just can go to the next Tmo store and get a replacement? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Phill
Well for your problem, i suggest you try a different rom and see if the problem persists... maybe its a bug
And as for insurance, you mail the phone in and pay a deductible, which should be like 135$ or so. They send you a refurb.. or if you say it wus lost, you dont have to mail in phone
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
I don't see it as a bad thing. If your phone gets too hot and keeps charging that's going to burn something inside. When my phone won't charge I know I have let it down. So it can cool down. But to fix your problem reboot the phone. You can keep charging it after it boots up
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
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As long as your phone can run successfully for a couple minutes, i dont see why not
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Mine did something similar. I picked it up after putting it on the charger. It was hot and would not come on. I unplugged it and let it cool off for a while and it cleared up.
I got that message once...
Vibrant was in a car dock, with power.
It was *HOT* out and sun was hitting the back of the unit. (A/C on of course)
Google Navigation was running (display brightness max)
Google Listen was running
Bluetooth was passing music to a speakerphone
When I run the phone with that setup, the charger can't even keep up with the phone power needs. The battery level slowly drops. No question the phone is working hard.
This was a true heat issue... I removed the charger and turned off the display to let it cool off a bit. (I was almost home).
So the question again, is your phone hot or is it a false reading?
Robert
Hey,
I am sorry I didn't clarify the actual battery temp. It is normal - so its neither in the sun or in a too cold spot when I try charging it. The phone probably runs for one for a few seconds before turning off so there is no chance of the battery stats wipe. I think I will try to find an external charger and try to charge the batteries this way to have enough juice for flashing a new rom. Thanks for all the replies!
Does it charge the battery with the phone off? If not, I don't think a new ROM will help.
Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but a resolution never seemed to be made here. Has anybody found a fix to this?
As of yesterday, my wife is having the same issue with my old Vibrant phone which she now uses. It's flashed with Bionix V 1.3.1 and Tigerblood overclock to 1.2ghz. This could be the issue, the Tiger Blood overclock, but I'm not sure. I'm out of the country for three weeks and currently she's left with a dud of a phone that keeps giving her the temperature warning in the triangle when plugged in while the phone is powered off followed by it stop charging. When she turns it on, she gets to the SD card check and then the phone completely freezes. Once in a while it's able to stay on for a minute or so before freezing, but more often than not the phone does not fully turn on and just goes frozen after a few seconds, sometimes at the Tigerblood logon screen before making it to the desktop. Me being 4000 miles away doesn't make it easier to help her but I've recommended she leave the phone unplugged, battery out for the night to see what happens. I also told her to take off her silicon case thinking maybe that has something to do with the overheating. Well after 7 hours of her letting it sit to cool off like that, with the case off, she plugged it back in and is having the same issues as yesterday. Absolutely no progress made. One of her colleagues said she should try leaving the phone in rice confused:) so she's giving that a go and another guy in a phone shop who she went to for advice after work said that the motherboard might need replacing. I'm convinced all it needs is to have the Tigerblood removed or reflash a rom onto it but there's really no knowing unless I have it in my hand.
Is there any quick fix to this problem without having to do all that? Surely there must be a way to charge the phone without it heating up and freezing up. She's tried plugging it into different rooms, on her laptop, etc, none seem to get rid of the temperature problem. I've had the phone since August 2010 and never had any issues with it. I also never once saw that temperature error message so was taken aback when she showed me it over skype. I just upgraded to the S3 and gave her the phone 2 weeks ago, but surely it shouldn't just die out just like that? Thought the Vibrants were made tougher than that?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Update- Phone doesn't even turn on anymore, no signs of life
danny_extremex said:
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Some kernels require a certain amount of power to fully boot the phone up and will not charge until it has 5% battery or so. I personally think her battery may be unable to hold a charge or like I said before it doesn't have enough juice to boot the phone because of the kernel. There is a way to charge the battery with the phone off. You can use ANY kind of usb cord, I used an old printer usb cable when I had to do this. All you do is cut off the side that is not usb and strip the positive and negative wires(red and black), then place the stripped wires on the positive and negative connectors on the back of the phone and insert the battery (make sure it's a snug fit). Plug the usb end into your pc and charge the battery that way, DO NOT let charge for over 2 minutes at a time. Wait five minutes and do it again if you have to. If she gets it to boot up, I would definitely flash a new kernel first to see if thats how the problem originated.
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Hi there.
I've got a really irritating problem with my vibrant. I can not get my battery level to budge off of 100%. The indicator won't change at all and when the battery is finally exhausted, it just shuts down.
The problem started this week, and I've had my vibrant since November 2011. Since March I've had some odd battery issues here and there. This one really takes the cake though.
Here is a list of things that I've tried
-rebooted (43x+)
-cleared battery stats-both with apps, cwm, and manually
-ODIN'd back to stock twice
-tried different batteries
-turned phone off and charged
-tried different chargers
-tried different roms- I've been on CM9, ICZEN, and some Froyo ROMs
What else could I try, I'm running out of ideas here?
Thank you for any help you can offer.
ficklecycler said:
Hi there.
I've got a really irritating problem with my vibrant. I can not get my battery level to budge off of 100%. The indicator won't change at all and when the battery is finally exhausted, it just shuts down.
The problem started this week, and I've had my vibrant since November 2011. Since March I've had some odd battery issues here and there. This one really takes the cake though.
Here is a list of things that I've tried
-rebooted (43x+)
-cleared battery stats-both with apps, cwm, and manually
-ODIN'd back to stock twice
-tried different batteries
-turned phone off and charged
-tried different chargers
-tried different roms- I've been on CM9, ICZEN, and some Froyo ROMs
What else could I try, I'm running out of ideas here?
Thank you for any help you can offer.
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You sir, have achieved infinite battery. Be proud, be proud. Countless have sought to attain such a magnificent feat, yet all have failed...until now! You must first gain the respect of your phone, in order to properly wield your new found power. But I warn you, this is a time consuming and dangerous task! Only those who are truly worthy may wield the infinite battery vibrant; and he shall be king of all androids in times of present and future, for all time.
No, but seriously. I'll do some research. Until, good luck. (ye sorry, ive been drinkin lol couldnt resist)
Xenoism said:
You sir, have achieved infinite battery. Be proud, be proud. Countless have sought to attain such a magnificent feat, yet all have failed...until now! You must first gain the respect of your phone, in order to properly wield your new found power. But I warn you, this is a time consuming and dangerous task! Only those who are truly worthy may wield the infinite battery vibrant; and he shall be king of all androids in times of present and future, for all time.
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LOL hahaahaa, funniest thing I've seen on xda
u could always try an app that tells u your battery percentage? or if possible, return the phone as faulty
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Hur hur. Funny guys.
Most battery apps just report the data that the system is giving them, so since my system is telling the phone that its at 100%, the battery apps just do the same. Right? Are there any you know of that take their own measurements?
I'm not sure where or who I'd return the phone to. Its pretty old at this point. Warranty repair is probably out of the question.
Would anyone upload a batterystats.bin file for me. Could that jog my system into reporting something different? I want my vibrant to be back to its normal self!
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Most battery apps just report the data that the system is giving them, so since my system is telling the phone that its at 100%, the battery apps just do the same. Right? Are there any you know of that take their own measurements?
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oh true, didnt think of that, and not that i know of
riight, thats a shame. i guess you wouldn't have any friends that do phone repair?
unfortunately i sold my vibrant awhile ago and bought an evo 3d, so sorry i can't do that
i'm really not sure what you could do, perhaps sell it and buy another phone? thats probably what i'd do after trying what you have already
Thanks for the input anyhow, it was a good idea.
Things have been looking grim for this Vibrant so I bought another one off of the 'bay to replace it. Still messing with it to see if I can find a solution to the problem. Everything below is a poorly worded mess but read on if you're bored or are having a similar issue.
When I'd boot up the phone with a (discharged) battery installed, it would immediately say its charged, and stop trying to charge the battery. This was super frustrating because I'd have to charge with the phone off to actually get any charging done. This morning I tried something different...
The phone will sit at 100% and then just suddenly die, so just now I had used up all the battery, it died, then I booted it up again with the charger plugged, just so I could get to the lockscreen. I unplugged it and waited patiently (like a ninja) for it to suddenly drop to zero(and start the shutdown procedure). At the second it did, I connected the charger and the phone shut off anyway. Then it went to the phone off screen with the giant battery icon. However, THIS time, the icon didn't just instantly report that the phone was charged, instead it showed a very low battery like it should. Half an hour later, the battery icon shows slightly more charge. My phone hasn't done this in a long time, and I think its a good sign. I'm going to let it charge like this and see if I can't get it to start cycling the battery properly again.
So no solid info yet. Just trying to see if I can revive my phones battery management. At least the phone still works fine besides the battery issue.
ficklecycler said:
The phone will sit at 100% and then just suddenly die, so just now I had used up all the battery, it died, then I booted it up again with the charger plugged, just so I could get to the lockscreen. I unplugged it and waited patiently (like a ninja) for it to suddenly drop to zero(and start the shutdown procedure). At the second it did, I connected the charger and the phone shut off anyway. Then it went to the phone off screen with the giant battery icon. However, THIS time, the icon didn't just instantly report that the phone was charged, instead it showed a very low battery like it should. Half an hour later, the battery icon shows slightly more charge. My phone hasn't done this in a long time, and I think its a good sign. I'm going to let it charge like this and see if I can't get it to start cycling the battery properly again.
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Good luck!
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Alright, so that little trick that I tried (plugging in the charger right as it hits 0%) gets you one proper charge. It doesn't fix anything. As I used the phone after this, it had moments of working well, but would spike from 60% to 100% then back to 1% and so on until it actually dies. Weeeeelllllllshiiiittttt, at least my new phone is showing up soon haha.
so my amaze 4g has been having battery problems for a few days (this is the 2nd battery for it, first died after 13 months), and tonight i went to check a text message and i had about 45% battery left,i swipe to unlock the phone and then 1 sec later it just goes black.
i have tried everything, but the LED wont even turn on when plugged into charger/pc. in device manger i see "qhsusb_dload" , but everything Ive goggled about this issue seems to be related to modified phones, not bone stock.
any help?
haxxo said:
so my amaze 4g has been having battery problems for a few days (this is the 2nd battery for it, first died after 13 months), and tonight i went to check a text message and i had about 45% battery left,i swipe to unlock the phone and then 1 sec later it just goes black.
i have tried everything, but the LED wont even turn on when plugged into charger/pc. in device manger i see "qhsusb_dload" , but everything Ive goggled about this issue seems to be related to modified phones, not bone stock.
any help?
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Unlucky! Your phone is dead,the only hope for you here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627882
This happens when your battery is really dead. You might have to leave the charger plugged in for a few hours before the LED comes back on.
However, this is a temporary fix, and it is likely that it will happen again.
I'd recommend you to get a new battery, even if plugging it for a few hours solves your problem. HTC Amazes are notorious for killing batteries. If you look around, you'll see threads talking about horrible battery life, similar random shutdowns, and such that can only be fixed with a new battery.
SuperAfnan said:
Are you kidding me, why did you have to post this in the development section. This is for ROMs, Kernels, Mods, and development stuff only.
Please read the forum rules next time because you could get an infraction or get scolded. I am not rude so I don't do that stuff usually. Be warned!
Can someone call a moderator to move the thread, or lock it. I can't call a mod from the app.
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i thought i was posting in the Q&A section, i tried to delete the thread right after i saw my mistake, but it wont let me delete.
eadrang said:
Unlucky! Your phone is dead,the only hope for you here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627882
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wow, great quality phone HTC.
Keylogger_0 said:
This happens when your battery is really dead. You might have to leave the charger plugged in for a few hours before the LED comes back on.
However, this is a temporary fix, and it is likely that it will happen again.
I'd recommend you to get a new battery, even if plugging it for a few hours solves your problem. HTC Amazes are notorious for killing batteries. If you look around, you'll see threads talking about horrible battery life, similar random shutdowns, and such that can only be fixed with a new battery.
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i tested my battery voltage and it was 3.850, how can it be really dead when its rated at 3.8v? i have had the battery issue before, but it never bricked my phone.
It's not bricked. (It shouldn't be)
Remove the battery, press the power button several times to dissipate any remaining charge in the phone, and then insert a fully charged battery. I'd recommend you using a different phone (if available) to charge the said battery.
After that, it should boot up normally.
And if I recall, voltage is supposed to be consistent, regardless of the charge level (unless it's totally dead, then maybe it's different, I don't know)
It's the current you want to look for.
Keylogger_0 said:
It's not bricked. (It shouldn't be)
Remove the battery, press the power button several times to dissipate any remaining charge in the phone, and then insert a fully charged battery. I'd recommend you using a different phone (if available) to charge the said battery.
After that, it should boot up normally.
And if I recall, voltage is supposed to be consistent, regardless of the charge level (unless it's totally dead, then maybe it's different, I don't know)
It's the current you want to look for.
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thanks for the advice, i dont have any other phone to change this battery with. ill go and see if i can set up seomthing to test amperage, otherwise ill let it charge and heopfully it works.
EDIT: you sir are correct about the battery, i tested the amperage and a normal AA cell had 4.8A the phone battery had 0.002A lol.
haxxo said:
thanks for the advice, i dont have any other phone to change this battery with. ill go and see if i can set up seomthing to test amperage, otherwise ill let it charge and heopfully it works.
EDIT: you sir are correct about the battery, i tested the amperage and a normal AA cell had 4.8A the phone battery had 0.002A lol.
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Yeah that's not normal. You could try charging it, but it's likely that the battery is fried already. You can buy a new battery on Amazon or some similar site. Many people (including me) recommend Anker batteries.
If you have no luck with the battery this HTC unbricking project for the amaze is definetly for you
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sportsstar89 said:
If you have no luck with the battery this HTC unbricking project for the amaze is definetly for you
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got a new anker battery from someone local, i saw the battery working on an amaze4g, doesn't work on mine. so the phone is the issue, are u sure the unbricking project is for me? it seems to be pointed to ppl who switched S-on
Well i tired to unbrick it, couldn't even get past the first step. linux detects the qualcomm device as bus 001 device 003 but brickdetect does not pick it up.
dead mobo?