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I'm tired of the GPS not working accurately on my vibrant. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone in the first place. Who really needs a faster processor and sharper resolution when you can't use it for something as basic as navigation and finding the number and address of your local grocery store?
This is why I have switched to a Garminfone. I do not have to pay for a data plan. Who really surfs the net on a tiny screen? that's what laptops and tablets are for. Can anyone here say their Vibrant GPS works just as accurately as a Garmin device? I want to know if it's because I have an older Vibrant model. Have the new Vibrants fixed the GPS issue completely? My Garminfone is accurate in locating me within 2-10 meters and can find me in 2-3 seconds! Plus it was made to integrate directly with your car, so there is a windshield holder with power outlet.
No real software can truly fix the GPS since it's a hardware limitation. Probably why my Garminfone is heavier. It uses a real GPS, not aGPS! And it's made by Asus which is an excellent brand!
No flaming intended, but HOLY CRAP a Garminfone?
Ouch dude.
You picked a GARMINFONE over an SGS? The ONLY thing that phone does better is GPS.
That being said, the GPS on my Vibrant works great. I have no idea why some Vibrants can't see a bird to save their lives, and some work. Supposedly the newer hardware makes it more likely that it will work.
Good luck with your new GPS that can make phone calls.
LOL at picking a Garminfone over the Vibrant.
On second thought...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<composes himself>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dominic77m said:
. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone
Who really needs a faster processor and sharper resolution when you can't use it for something as basic as navigation
This is why I have switched to a Garminfone.
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Weird... I thought the true reason to use a mobile phone.... was to call people??
I thought about the Garminfone briefly before I settled with a Vibrant.
Software updates for the Garminfone are really non-existent and any modding/hacking Roms is almost extinct as well. The device is on life support at best.
That being said I've seen Vibrants with superb 5 second GPS locks by just spending 10 patient minutes doing the GPS hardware fix listed in the sticky.
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Who really surfs the net on a tiny screen? that's what laptops and tablets are for.
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I do. Everyday. Especially at work.
dominic77m said:
Can anyone here say their Vibrant GPS works just as accurately as a Garmin device?
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My GPS locks faster and recalculates less often than my Garmin.
dominic77m said:
No real software can truly fix the GPS since it's a hardware limitation. Probably why my Garminfone is heavier. It uses a real GPS, not aGPS! And it's made by Asus which is an excellent brand!
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True. There is a hardware issue with the GPS as stated in the sticky in the General Section. But once that issue is corrected the GPS is just as good as any standalone device I've every used. There are about 90 other people who will back me on that too. Oh and my phones GPS is set to Standalone, no aGPS here...
those that are replying, keep in mind....
does you GPS work properly without a Data plan???
my point is, if you're paying an extra $30 a month which is $330 a year for data when there is wifi in just about every mall, mc donalds, star bucks...why even bother?
and on top of that, why pay for data if you already have wifi at home and in the workplace??
Seriously, no one truly browses a full web page on a phone. You do that on a laptop or tablet. The Garminfone has android 2.1. So what is if it doesn't have 2.3? The issue is always going to be T-mobile will be a few builds behind the latest one. Are you really going to save the world with 2.3???
It's all about functionality and value!!!!
I can be in the middle of nowhere and get GPS directions, address and telephone numbers without a data plan! No paying $330 yearly!
So back to my question, does your GPS on your Vibrant work accurately without a data plan or wifi?
omg is this thread for real. me and my wife had a garmin when they first came out cause of the buy one get one deal. we couldnt give those crappy phones back fast enough. really garmin phone why dont you just get a tom tom duct tape it to your vibrant if you want gps so bad.
I looked at the Garminfone for about 10 minutes. I am not going to bash your choice because everyone has different needs for their devices. I will however say that my decision to NOT go with that phone was I read a ton of bad reviews on overall hardware and software issues. Plus I really hardly use GPS unless I am bored.
If you truly need GPS and just use a phone to call and text then that is what suits you best.
Good luck with your purchase, come back in a few weeks and prove us wrong I guess
After reading through this post, I don't why the OP even created this post in the first place when he knows for a fact that our phone requires a data plan for GPS to work. As for me, I am out most of the time and it's just much more convenient for me to use the data plan to go online and email without having to look for a place with wifi. On top of that, my replacement phone sees 11 to 12 birds and locks on to 6 to 8 birds in about 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe the OP regrade switching over and is trying to justify himself for the switch.
he might as well get a cup and string along with a star chart to map with for location for a phone.
dominic77m said:
I'm tired of the GPS not working accurately on my vibrant. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone in the first place.
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The irony is freaking delicious.
i see a lot of people here are new to TECHNOLOGY. I've been around computers since the first desktop computer came out. Many on here started using computers only when facebook became popular. The point is, the true value in technology does not lie in paying for a device at it's birth.
I repeat, $330 a year for what???
It's $330 for service...not a device that can be resold and make half your money back in a year. What do you really need so badly to download from the internet that requires you to get a data plan instead of using wifi?
The initial bad reviews for the Garminfone was because it only supported 1.6 at the time. 2.1 isn't that bad. And get this, Garminfone is made by Asus which is the best quality PC brand!
Of course the vibrant is better...well it ought to be if you're paying $330 more a year!!! It all comes down to price! You expect more if you pay more!
If you bought your Vibrant through Tmobile, you could have easily swapped it out for a newer model without the hardware problem at no cost to you. My GPS is working fine, and yes in some cases it fares better than standalone units.
People use their phones for browsing all the time, that's kind of the major point of a smartphone...
As for the data plan, I use Audiogalaxy to stream my entire music collection (upwards of 200 gigs of music) from my computer at home, to my car. How would you do that without a data plan again?
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my point is, if you're paying an extra $30 a month which is $330 a year for data when there is wifi in just about every mall, mc donalds, star bucks...why even bother?
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What about everyone who doesnt have wifi at work. Those who don't visit malls or fast food restaurants. What about the fact then even those who do have wifi at work also have many restrictions to go along with it. I'd rather have the network with me at all times than to have to go somewhere to use the internet
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and on top of that, why pay for data if you already have wifi at home and in the workplace??
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Again... You assume everyone has wifi at home/work.
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Seriously, no one truly browses a full web page on a phone. You do that on a laptop or tablet. The Garminfone has android 2.1. So what is if it doesn't have 2.3? The issue is always going to be T-mobile will be a few builds behind the latest one. Are you really going to save the world with 2.3???
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Again. I use my phone for full web browsing on a daily bases even at home. As do many others who do too. You shouldnt make statements like that without knowing peoples habbits for a fact.
dominic77m said:
It's all about functionality and value!!!!
I can be in the middle of nowhere and get GPS directions, address and telephone numbers without a data plan! No paying $330 yearly!
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Cool story. Whatever works for you. But don't pretend you know whats best for everyone just because its best for you.
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So back to my question, does your GPS on your Vibrant work accurately without a data plan or wifi?
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Again. Yes my Vibrant is just as accurate and in some cases MORE accurate. And it is possible to use the GPS without a data plan.
dominic77m said:
i see a lot of people here are new to TECHNOLOGY. I've been around computers since the first desktop computer came out. Many on here started using computers only when facebook became popular.
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O, rly? Source?
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I repeat, $330 a year for what???
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Unlimited access to the cloud and everything that entails, at speeds that are often faster than the average wifi connection. This also works when in a car, on a bus, at the beach, in the mall, in an airport, while doing handstands, practicing your backflips on a trampoline, hell even when I'm walking to the office, dropping my drawers, and dropping a deuce all over my ****ty Asus netbook
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It's $330 for service...not a device that can be resold and make half your money back in a year. What do you really need so badly to download from the internet that requires you to get a data plan instead of using wifi?
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Its consistent convenience. Social Networking, streaming radio (including jacked into my car stereo), XDA app, certain games, Market access anytime, etc.
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Of course the vibrant is better...well it ought to be if you're paying $330 more a year!!! It all comes down to price! You expect more if you pay more!
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Agreed. You pay less for a less enjoyable experience.
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Again. Yes my Vibrant is just as accurate and in some cases MORE accurate. And it is possible to use the GPS without a data plan.
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Exactly, and with Maps 5.0 you have offline route caching, so you can still navigate when you lose data service.
people really need internet on a tiny little device 24/7 for $330?
Sure everything is case by case, but $330 in this economy when MOST people already have wifi. This is how ridiculous cellphone plans are! It use to be a device for talking and now people describe it like a NECESSITY!
This is exactly why Americans are always broke! They don't know the meaning of value. It's one thing that you're Donald Trump, but MAJORITY of people don't need internet service with them 24/7.
If you're using your mobile device for tethering, then that's a good thing...but when you already have wifi at home like most people, this is completely a waste!
Does anyone have proof that the Vibrant GPS works great by itself without a data plan. I'm looking for proof online. Maybe a video or article.
Hey, if the aGPS works like real GPS on the vibrant, I'd completely switch back.
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people really need internet on a tiny little device 24/7 for $330?.
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i only pay 180 a year!! got tmo to lower it to 15 dollars a month when my contract expired and its been that way for 2 years now
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Hey, if the aGPS works like real GPS on the vibrant, I'd completely switch back.
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The vibrants GPS can operate in 3 different modes. One of which is STANDALONE. meaning the phone gets its data directly from the sats. Meaning no network connection is needed.
Wonder if anyone could help me as I have been thrown a little out of my depth. The story goes .....
Been using Iphone since 1st Gen, skipped the inbetween and then around 6 months ago went for the iphone 4. Just yesterday after watching some of the stuff on siri I was itching to go for the 4S, although it really felt this time against my better judgement. I knew I shouldnt be spending £500 just for a voice assistant, but I was impressed and was only inches from making the purchase.
However something stopped me and for some reason I just kept going back to the other phone I had heard something about, the Galaxy S2. I really didnt know ANYTHING about this phone, but decided to see what it was all about. It only took me a couple of hours to find out that on the surface this seems a far more impressive phone than the 4s.
It already has some voice recognition software, although it doesnt look like its quite up to siri standards, but the fact that you can plug in usb memory sticks, hook it up to the tv with little to no effort, the fantastic screen etc, it seemed too good to be true.
What has happened during all this research however is that I have picked up some information Im not quite sure of the answers to, which is where someone can maybe help me out.
I9100 vs I9100G ? Im going to be purchasing this in the UK probably on the three network. Is there ANY " G " stock in the UK as I would definately prefer the I9100. How can I be sure I get a 9100?
I read something about yellowing on the screen. Is this an issue with certain models or versions that I should be aware of and to try and avoid?
As with anything such as items like the PS3, PSP, is there any later revision I need to avoid during my purchase that cant be rooted or hacked as the other earlier models can?
I bought my iphone factory unlocked but with this I think I am going to take out a network contract, however are these phones easy to unlock unlike the later iphone models and again are there any later revisions where unlocking has become difficult or impossible?
Basically I am just after some friendly advice for someone who has not made the purchase yet. I just dont want to come back on here and someone say " Oh no, you didnt pick up the SGH-2013232-PPZ revision did you????? Your screwed!"
I have never, ever used an andriod phone before, so am completely new, but after clearing the apple mist, It just seems that in particular the SGS2 is definately pulling me away from continuing with my apple related destiny.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
P.S I did have an old username on here but for the life of me cant remember what it was. It dates back to when I used to come on here regarding my XDA Mini S device.
Make sure it is the GT-I9100. This phone is great. Had no problems so far. It's as good as iPhone 4s and alot.cheaper! IPhone is heavily overpriced.
Be prepared that it is not the same as an iPhone. Some thinks might be harder to configure. My gf has an iPhone and now wishes she had bought mine because Android can do so much more than ios and because my phone is cheaper while it can do the same
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I9100 vs I9100G ? Im going to be purchasing this in the UK probably on the three network. Is there ANY " G " stock in the UK as I would definately prefer the I9100. How can I be sure I get a 9100?
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AFAIK, in Europe you'll be fine. The i9100G is only sold in a couple of markets, such as India.
I read something about yellowing on the screen. Is this an issue with certain models or versions that I should be aware of and to try and avoid?
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New phones are fine. I believe that issue happened only on the first models.
As with anything such as items like the PS3, PSP, is there any later revision I need to avoid during my purchase that cant be rooted or hacked as the other earlier models can?
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As far as you get a i9100, you'll be fine. You can root every single firmware released, keep root through firmware updates, revert bootloaders, etc. This is as much of an open phone as possible, short of a Nexus or Maemo/Meego.
Thanks for the advice. Still pretty nervous about plumping for my first android phone after so long on iphones, but from everything I have seen about the Galaxy S2 it seems to pretty much match the 4s and certainly seems to do things the 4s simply cant touch such as hooking up usb memory sticks and the ease of connecting the device through HDMI to TVs.
It might take a bit of getting used to the Android way compared to the Apple way .
But you can do what you want its your phone and SJ dont tell you what is what .
jje
Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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#1 Pretty much just like the iPhone... There is a certain button combo you press/hold that will act as a "battery pull". I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head since I haven't had to do it (I have a Rezound).
#2 The only plus about the fixed back is the phone will definitely feel sturdy! I've got an extended battery on my Rezound and man it's annoying how squeaky it is.
#3 Hope they don't mess with unlimited. I don't use much storage luckily. I just checked my Rez and I only had a few GB's used total between the internal and external storage.
#4 I couldn't get that to work on my Rezound... Either I'm doing it wrong or maybe it's how my car handles it?
The only thing that has me questioning hitting the pre-order button is how often I will need to use voice/data over 3G (since this doesn't have the ability). Decisions decisions...
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tehknics said:
#1 Pretty much just like the iPhone... There is a certain button combo you press/hold that will act as a "battery pull". I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head since I haven't had to do it (I have a Rezound).
#2 The only plus about the fixed back is the phone will definitely feel sturdy! I've got an extended battery on my Rezound and man it's annoying how squeaky it is.
#3 Hope they don't mess with unlimited. I don't use much storage luckily. I just checked my Rez and I only had a few GB's used total between the internal and external storage.
#4 I couldn't get that to work on my Rezound... Either I'm doing it wrong or maybe it's how my car handles it?
The only thing that has me questioning hitting the pre-order button is how often I will need to use voice/data over 3G (since this doesn't have the ability). Decisions decisions...
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If you are like me and depend on google nav all the time driving , you will need it . 4g is not very reliable driving across state lines and if u get a phone call and need to re route - well then you to make a decision between which one is more imp ... doing it once might not be a big deal , but on a long road trip might become really irritating .
That's a good point... I never thought of it affecting me that way.
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despite all these little cons im still going to get it becuase of the specs
I am happy
johnminator said:
despite all these little cons im still going to get it becuase of the specs
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I am glad you said that, i really wanted to know peoples opinion of my points . I know the specs are beastily , i am so broken hearted that it has all these problems because I know htc has phenomenal reception. I am ready throw my gs3 in my toilet bec of my reception
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I am glad you said that, i really wanted to know peoples opinion of my points . I know the specs are beastily , i am so broken hearted that it has all these problems because I know htc has phenomenal reception. I am ready throw my gs3 in my toilet bec of my reception
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lol and it should not be that hard to root and unlock and s-off
with cm10 or aokp this phone will be a monster
really
johnminator said:
lol and it should not be that hard to root and unlock and s-off
with cm10 or aokp this phone will be a monster
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See we would still be having the same issues .
Any my experience is with HTC is that sometimes they refuse to release a bootloader unlock tool .
I am afraid not as many developer will jump on this because of 1- release of note in the same time 2- release of nexus 4 in the same time 3- how exclusive this device is to verizon . Now you narrowed it down to a handfull of devs that have to do the following : Unlock bootlaoder if htc refuses to it , port a custom recovery to it , and of course root it and then here is the biggest problem , FIX THE RIL TO WORK WITH AOSP .
Over in the rezound world that took a year and if it wasnt for Chad , they would have never had it . and the signal is still shakey.
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See we would still be having the same issues .
Any my experience is with HTC is that sometimes they refuse to release a bootloader unlock tool .
I am afraid not as many developer will jump on this because of 1- release of note in the same time 2- release of nexus 4 in the same time 3- how exclusive this device is to verizon . Now you narrowed it down to a handfull of devs that have to do the following : Unlock bootlaoder if htc refuses to it , port a custom recovery to it , and of course root it and then here is the biggest problem , FIX THE RIL TO WORK WITH AOSP .
Over in the rezound world that took a year and if it wasnt for Chad , they would have never had it . and the signal is still shakey.
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That is true also but one question about the galaxy note 2 for vzw. How will the development for it be will we have cm10 or only touch wiz custom roms?
jmichaels1982 said:
Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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1. The new batteries that are coming out with the new phones are like night and day. HTC (not just HTC) are starting to use new batteries with better technology (I'm sure some on XDA could answer this question with details). Apple is no longer the king of battery technology if you get the hint.
2. You are going to see this more and more with Verizon phones. Verizon should have the nation coverage with 4g by the end of 2013.
3. Many of the cell phone manufacturers are moving to cloud service and you will see more of this in the future. The carriers need to reconsider their data plans in the future. Verizon knows about this phone and many others that are coming down the pipe line with no SD card slot.
4. I have not tried bluetooth and simultaneous aux with the DNA. So I'm not sure about this. But HTC had to upgrade the Beats software because it seems to be louder and much more clearer. I also don't have a buzzing sound between songs like on the Rezound.
good question
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That is true also but one question about the galaxy note 2 for vzw. How will the development for it be will we have cm10 or only touch wiz custom roms?
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
Here is what i am referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760568&highlight=bounty+unlock
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1. The new batteries that are coming out with the new phones are like night and day. HTC (not just HTC) are starting to use new batteries with better technology
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I'm going to call BS on this but will gladly eat my words if you can show me a valid source for your information on this new and mysterious HTC battery tech.
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
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dangg so tell me this if i really want a good dev phone what should i get
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dangg so tell me this if i really want a good dev phone what should i get
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I feel like verizon is losing more devs because of their stunts. I hate to say this but the time will come when we have to chose between the network and dev.
They lock all their bootloaders by requesting the manufacturer to do so. Their last stunt with the loss of unlimited plans bec of an upgrade made lose a whole lot more ( ATT customers can upgrade and keep their unlimited and tmobile have the choice of unlimited 4g for extra 20 a month ).
But as of now the GS3 has amazing development , i just hate the phone its self , piss poor reception. If you have good reception then its a haven for dev.
Here is my advice , WHEN YOU A BUY A PHONE, know this , make sure u will love it as is , in its pure native stock form . Relying on verizon devs is becoming more and more scarce in comparison to the Tbolt days.
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I'm going to call BS on this but will gladly eat my words if you can show me a valid source for your information on this new and mysterious HTC battery tech.
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You are going to call BS on this??? Ok take a battery from a phone that is 3 to 4 years old with the same mah and you tell me it's the same technology????That's just common sense. What you just said is, if I went to Wal-Mart and bought a name brand battery and then bought a off brand battery. The off brand battery would out last the name brand? Not sure what is BS on this, but that's up to you.
Yeah my battery really sucks.... NOT..
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And the phone is really slow and the screen sucks... NOT.. Next time you call someone know Wtf your talking about. I never said the battery was top secret, just battery tech is getting better.
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Thank you so much
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And the phone is really slow and the screen sucks... NOT.. Next time you call someone know Wtf your talking about. I never said the battery was top secret, just battery tech is getting better.
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LIsten i am sorry about the other dude. To all who has came out here and clarified my doubts , thank you for taking the time out ! none of you had any obligations to do so and you answered all my questions perfectly ....
I love XDA for that ..
To be honest, if you have the coin to buy the DNA at full price and concerned about the Dev community associated with the device, leaving vzw and unlimited data is the best route. For years I've been a users of more than 5 gbs per month on Verizon's network, and I was getting closer typo 9 per month with lte phones. But now that phones can handle having the Wi-Fi radio on all day without murdering the battery, staying under3gb/month isn't that big of a deal at all. Between the beastly one x+, the option for unlocked international phones, being able to use true nexus devices, etc. I couldn't be happier. The DNA is a great phone, but the concerns you have (including the big one, simultaneous voice and data) it does sound like art would suit your needs better.
However, if att blows in your area or had a bass experience with them in the past, then by all means, disregard everything I've just said
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
Here is what i am referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760568&highlight=bounty+unlock
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While I do completely agree with what you're trying to say, your facts here are a little goofy. The bootloader unlock took 3 weeks from release date.....pretty damn good if you ask me. Yes, people did pool together a lot of money for it, because they all wanted it that bad. It was a bounty, not that "it cost thousands of dollars". And I also run AOSP only on my gs3, not a single problem with it.
Unlocking the bootloader is night and day difference on the manufacturer though. That was a Samsung device....this is obviously HTC. S-off is a completely different creature all together. I had a Evo 4g, Thunderbolt, and Rezound, (along with other manufacture devices) and they are always puzzling.
To say that we're gonna lose devs to the Nexus 4 could be a bit overzealous seems you're talking about people jumping ship and canceling contracts/switching providers for a phone. It happens but not nearly as often as you think. Believe me, we'll still have plenty of devs for it. Currently the only device in the US market with BOTH 1080p screen AND S4 Pro Quad processor.....it'll attract some attention
You can almost guarentee we'll have Team Bamf onboard here too......
EDIT - and I was also under the impression that it does have simultaneous voice and data?!?!
1. Screen Bleed. Not terrible but annoying.
2. Unable to transfer files to phone from my PC. I tried 3 different PC's. I have developer mode and tried both usb debug mode on and off.
But files either refuse to copy - or copy so slow that it would take days to copy large files, literally.
I installed the Poco drivers and Mi assistant. It tells me I need to update my phone before connecting to PC.
But my phone IS updated.
3. The mic hardly audible on video calls.
The mic only works if I have my mouth VERY close to it, other wise people cannot hear me at all during video calls - I mean literally AT ALL. The person was sitting quietly waiting for me to talk but I had been talking for over a minute before I realised they cant hear a thing. Did a Skype test call.. same problem.
4. It took me weeks to even be able to order this phone due to the bad habit of advertising the phone but not having enough stock available.
5. No refund available, just the painful process of sending it back and having to gamble on getting a better quality phone.
I can see my self stuck in an endless cycle of returning these phones. becasue none will be up to standard.
It has a fast processor, pretty good camera, and good battery... but the rest seems utter garbage.
I'd rather a slower phone that actually worked properly.
1. my Poco is made in China and there is not screen bleed, screen is perfect.
2. no problem for me to transfer file from Poco to Win10 in vm.
3. not tested with Skype so idk, but with normal call with speakerphone enabled i did not have problems atm.
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What you listed is nothing compared to the touch issues this model has... It's barely usable because of them. Other than that, it's very solid. I don't even mind the light bleed, I just want the touch response to be snappy and accurate (which it's not...).
mario123m said:
What you listed is nothing compared to the touch issues this model has... It's barely usable because of them. Other than that, it's very solid. I don't even mind the light bleed, I just want the touch response to be snappy and accurate (which it's not...).
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Nothing?
I got this phone mainly for Skype video calls on the move. But with the awful mic its totally useless.
Plus I got the 128GB version for more storage space, but cant even transfer files to the device.
I didn't notice many touch issues though.. maybe a bit.
Thats what we get if we pay cheap... crap quality control.
My model was also made in India - which probably means it's even worse.
About the USB thing it wouldnt work for me on the USB 3.0 ports of my computer, but I know its not Poco's fault, not even my new sound card gets recognised there. If your computer is old one (mine is P9x79 Pro with 3930k) its most probably just the USB fault. It was when USB 3.0 first released and I remember it not even working properly until drivers released a year after. Not to mention that I still have problems with it sometimes.
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Nothing?
I got this phone mainly for Skype video calls on the move. But with the awful mic its totally useless.
Plus I got the 128GB version for more storage space, but cant even transfer files to the device.
I didn't notice many touch issues though.. maybe a bit.
Thats what we get if we pay cheap... crap quality control.
My model was also made in India - which probably means it's even worse.
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I mean that your mic issue is probably easy to fix in future updates (I just tested a video call myself and the other person heard me very clearly) but the screen is most likely a hardware issue which is the worst. I don't have any problems with the file transfer either.
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Nothing?
I got this phone mainly for Skype video calls on the move. But with the awful mic its totally useless.
Plus I got the 128GB version for more storage space, but cant even transfer files to the device.
I didn't notice many touch issues though.. maybe a bit.
Thats what we get if we pay cheap... crap quality control.
My model was also made in India - which probably means it's even worse.
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mate stop spreading the hate... maybe you got a defective piece...u should request for a return... I got mine in the first sale(Flipkart) .. I don't know about the mic issue with skype ...for me, everything works fine including the screen(no bleeding)...install some benchmark app for storage and check the speed ...check your SD card (if u have one).
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About the USB thing it wouldnt work for me on the USB 3.0 ports of my computer, but I know its not Poco's fault, not even my new sound card gets recognised there. If your computer is old one (mine is P9x79 Pro with 3930k) its most probably just the USB fault. It was when USB 3.0 first released and I remember it not even working properly until drivers released a year after. Not to mention that I still have problems with it sometimes.
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Then why do my other phones have no problem transferring data from my pc?
It is POCO fault for sure
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mate stop spreading the hate... maybe you got a defective piece...u should request for a return... I got mine in the first sale(Flipkart) .. I don't know about the mic issue with skype ...for me, everything works fine including the screen(no bleeding)...install some benchmark app for storage and check the speed ...check your SD card (if u have one).
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I spread what the hell I want
And ACTUALLY, I am spreading my EXPERIENCE.
It's better than keeping quiet and having masses of people buy this badly built phone.
I got the 128GB version - dont need an SD card. Well.. actually I do, becasue it wont work.
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I spread what the hell I want
And ACTUALLY, I am spreading my EXPERIENCE.
It's better than keeping quiet and having masses of people buy this badly built phone.
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u sound like an angry little kid ... I get your frustration ...I'm not telling you to keep quiet ...just get to the point rather telling this phone is garbage... if you want a perfect phone u should have spent some more money ...
and for "I spread what the hell I want".. I'm sorry to say that this is not the place...
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u sound like an angry little kid ... I get your frustration ...I'm not telling you to keep quiet ...just get to the point rather telling this phone is garbage... if you want a perfect phone u should have spent some more money ...
and for "I spread what the hell I want".. I'm sorry to say that this is not the place...
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What do you think I'm doing you fool?
I gave a LIST of points. I advice you to read them.
Then you accuse me of spreading hate when I'm just giving my experience,
then you call me a kid. But that's OK as long as it come from your mouth I suppose.
Yes, this phone was supposed to be a 'flagship killer killer'
Now when people point out its faults you say 'what do you expect from a cheap phone'.
Well if its crap, say so and I wont buy it.
People have been raving about it mainly due to the ultra fast processor, caught in the hype and ignoring the bad build quality and quality control.
Plus Mi India wont even give refunds.
AND they wont even check my replacement before sending it. So I may get another duff model and have to go through the entire process again.
So yes,, THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE
LOL the touch screen on my unit sold in Italy is perfect. I am in many italian android and tech forums and here no one has this (fake) touch screen problem. All made in China obviously. There are too many indian kids here...
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LOL the touch screen on my unit sold in Italy is perfect. I am in many italian android and tech forums and here no one has this (fake) touch screen problem. All made in China obviously. There are too many indian kids here...
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Maybe that's the issue.
Indian products are notoriously terrible quality.
Plus Mi India won't even offer refund.
After I read this thread, I just connect my phone to my PC to see if my Poco has any troubles transferring. Recognized by the computer, I then selected USB transfer rather than charging on the phone, and transferred over a 100 MB file in about 2 seconds. Fastest I've seen so far on a phone. So, for what it's worth, no issues here.
I find the screen bleed issue interesting. Reminds me of my 2012 iMac, where there was a huge blow-up online with screenbleed at the bottom that almost nobody noticed until they read the online forums..... Never noticed it on my phone until i read about it here. Ha!
Its that only the indian version only has these problems the global version has no issues
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Its that only the indian version only has these problems the global version has no issues
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Maybe I should change this thread title to: 'INDIAN PRODUCTION AND QUALITY CONTROL STANDARDS ARE GARBAGE.'
From what I'm seeing here it seems most of the phones made elsewhere are pretty much fine.
Interesting that people think it get worse ,I don't see backlighting get brighter as days go by, Backlight will get dimmer ?
Hmmm i read all these issues people have and i have yet to encounter any of them. I use my F1 daily since 6. September. Only problem i have is finding a good flip case for it.
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Nothing?
I got this phone mainly for Skype video calls on the move. But with the awful mic its totally useless.
Plus I got the 128GB version for more storage space, but cant even transfer files to the device.
I didn't notice many touch issues though.. maybe a bit.
Thats what we get if we pay cheap... crap quality control.
My model was also made in India - which probably means it's even worse.
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You didn't expect cheap stuff to be free of issues did you? It's the first generation too. Also, to say the phone is "utter garbage" is not fair when 90% of other functions work fine.
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Then why do my other phones have no problem transferring data from my pc?
It is POCO fault for sure
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I can speak for myself, I don't know why it does it to you. I can connect my s9 on that port and it works just fine also. However I had problem with MANY devices in the past (even last week with my new sound card) getting recognised or working properly. Some devices work, some don't. Do I blame the devices? Absolutely not. This is the price you pay for adopting new technologies like USB 3.0 (when it was first released) Its not pocos fault for being incompatible with 3.0, because it works fine on my 3.1 laptop, or USB 2.0 on my desktop. Same with my sound card. Again that's my own case, I don't know why it's not working for you. My suggestion is to try different drivers and/or upgrading the firmware of the usb.
I got the smart tag with the s21 and I am wondering really what its use could be outside of car keys, purse (I'm not a woman). The only thing I could think of is maybe leaving it in my car when I go out to a large parking lot (malls, etc when pandemic is over heh). I'm really not sure how it works besides its low energy bluetooth and range is ~ 120 meters. Without having to push the button would that work? I'm not sure what the battery life is on this thing.
I know the battery is crazy on it so maybe just 2-4 changes a year maybe.
I wanna try it on the kid and see if I can keep tabs on him when he commutes to school.
I believe it works by using nearby Samsung phones to give you location.
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I know the battery is crazy on it so maybe just 2-4 changes a year maybe.
I wanna try it on the kid and see if I can keep tabs on him when he commutes to school.
I believe it works by using nearby Samsung phones to give you location.
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Yup, but only if the users of the Samsung phones have opted in to do so. I remember my phone asking me if I wanted to enable something like that. I said no. I bet most people will not do it due to impact on battery.
Bet when Apple comes out with their tags, they won't even give users the option, apple will just have it enabled on all iPhones.