HTC EVO 3D for Dummies... - HTC EVO 3D

HTC EVO 3D
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One of the main concerns that has been brought up relates to every day use and the 2D/3D toggle switch. The User Interface (Sense 3.0) is not in 3D (It does not pop out of the screen). The standard functions of the phone are in 2D just like every other phone. The 2D/3D toggle switch is for taking pictures and recording videos.
The HTC EVO 3D will be released on the 24th of June, 2011. This info is coming from a leaked Radio Shack ad which can be found at his link: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/305558-anyone-know-when-its-going-released-17.html#post2761482 Previous Radio Shack ads show the price to be $199.99 on contract and $499.99 off contract. Keep in mind that both the release date and price are still speculation as Sprint has not confrimed anything yet.
Technical Specifications:​Network
2G:
- CDMA 800, 1900 MHz
- GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
3G:
- CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
- HSDPA 2100 MHz
4G:
- WiMAX
Dimensions
L x W x T: 126mm (5") x 65mm (2.6") x 12.05mm (.47")
Weight: 170 grams (6 ounces)
Form Factor: Candybar
Display
Technology: TFT-LCD (Sharp AVS/Super Mobile)
Type: Capacitive 3D Touch Screen
Size: 4.3"
Colors & Pixels: 16M Colors & 960x540 pixels (qHD)
Input/ User Interface
Auto Stereoscopic 3D display
Newest version of HTC Sense UI
Multi Touch
Proximity Sensor
Gyro Sensor, G-Sensor
Accelerometer sensor for UI auto-rotate
System Properties
Operating System: Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread)
CPU: 1.2GHz Qualcomm 8660 Snapdragon Processor
GPU: Adreno 220
Memory: 1GB RAM
Storage Capacity
Internal Memory: 4GB (1GB ROM)
- 8GB Card in-box
Expandable Memory: micro-SD card slot for expansion up to 32GB
Browser & Messaging
HTML 4.0, XHTML 1.1, WAP 2.0
MMS, SMS, IM, Email
Camera & Video
Still (rear):
- 5 Megapixels (2560 x 1920 pixels)
- Dual-LED Flash
- Digital Zoom
Additional Camera (rear):
- 5 Megapixels (2560 x 1920 pixels)
Secondary:
- 1.3 Megapixels
Capturing Capability:
- 2D Photos Capturing with 5MP resolution
- 3D Photos Capturing with 2MP resolution
Video Recording:
- 1080p HD video in 2D recording capable
- 720p HD video in 3D recording capable
Video Out:
- 1080p video via HDMI
- 720p 3D content via HDMI
Connectivity
Bluetooth & USB: v2.1 with EDR Stereo & v2.0 Mini USB
WLAN:
- Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
- WiMAX 802.16 e
- DLNA
Headset: 3.5mm stereo headset jack
Radio: Stereo FM with RDS
GPS: A-GPS
3G:
- Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps
- HSDPA, 14.4 Mbps
- HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
Music & Video
Music Formats:
- MP3 / M4A / QCP / AMR / AAC / AAC+ / eAAC+ / WAV / WMA / MIDI/ EVRC-B
Video Formats:
- MPEG4 / H.263 / H.264 / WMV
Battery
Type: Li-Ion 1730 mAh Standard Battery
Standby Time: Up to 355 hours
Talk Time: Up to 450 mins
Other Features
The Green Hornet 3D movie
Spiderman Total Mayhem 3D game demo
Blockbuster 3D Demand app.
YouTube 3D app.
Mobile Hotspot Capability For Up To 8 Devices
Sprint Mobile Hotspot(Up to 8 Wi-Fi enabled devices)
Android Market, Google Search, Maps,
Gmail, Google Talk,
Picasa integration, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook
Visual Voice Mail, GPS Navigation, Offline Navigation
Turn by Turn Navigation
Colors Availability Black
Informative Quotes:​Screen dimensions and resolutions:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/323915-smaller-screen-3d.html#post2607464
Originally Posted by EarlyMon
Using geometry, we can also arrive at the final dimension - or you can just use this handy calculator, like I did - Screen Aspect Ratio & Dimension Calculator
Evo @ 15:9 w/ 4.3" -> 2.21" x 3.69" -> Area = 8.16 sq. in.
E3D @ 16:9 w/ 4.3" -> 2.11" x 3.75" -> Area = 7.90 sq. in.
Evo dimensions verified by my 10ths ruler - hehehe.
Total area difference - probably about two of these: on most screens viewing this post.
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Miscellaneous questions:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/345965-few-questions-about-evo-3d.html
Originally Posted by ebolamonkey3
Hey guys, tried to find this myself, but didn't turn up anything conclusive. So any help would be appreciated
1. Can the Evo 3D use data and voice simultaneously?
-Not like AT&T - if you have WiMAX (4G) or wifi available, then yes - if just basic 3G, then no.
2. Does the Evo 3D have a notification light?
-Pretty sure.
3. Can I turn the screen to 2D out of preference or to save battery?
-The screen is 2D by default and only switches to 3D (automatically) when playing 3D movies or games or viewing 3D pictures.
Answers form EarlyMon
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Benefits of the camera:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/345580-whats-advantage-dedicated-camera-button.html
Originally Posted by novox77
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up.
Having the shutter where it is allows you to grip the phone well AND press the shutter button with ease. This will reduce hand shake a lot which means higher degree of success for those low-light shots. I have a hard time using the touchscreen shutter button, especially when I'm trying to grab a quick shot. With a dedicated shutter, you also know exactly where the shutter button is with your finger, so you can focus on keeping your shot composed.
And Cavemansol mentioned being able to adjust your composition once you've held down the shutter button halfway. Can't do this on current phone cameras. There's no halfway on a touchscreen So yeah, the focus lock is a great tool for making your photos more interesting. While I don't like "rules," check out the "rule of thirds" as it applies to composition.
And it's unknown if repeatedly half-pressing the shutter will get the camera to choose a different focal point. Canon tends to do this with their dedicated cameras.
It's a great feature if you take pics with your phone.
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Performance (over/underclocking) and battery life:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/331783-underlying-tech-evo-3d-qhd-3d-dual-core-smp.html
Originally Posted by EarlyMon
If all things were equal, you're right - no such thing as a free lunch - so running faster means using more juice and lots of it goes to wasted heat.
In this case (for Evo users) - it's using a more advanced manufacturing process where the stuff in the SoC (transistors, etc, etc, etc...) are smaller and closer together - lots smaller. Smaller stuff takes less power to run than the same stuff when bigger.
So - in this case, if you put an Evo side by side with an equivalent made with the newer process, the newer one will be more power efficient - enter the Thunderbolt. In that case, tho, they made the battery smaller, so on that one, there wasn't the big gain in advantage.
In this case, the silicon is made with the smaller manufacturing process (45nm vs. 65) _and_ the battery is bigger.
The SoC - the MSM8660 - in the E3D does indeed have a dynamic clock like the Evo (it's pretty much the rule now).
And - we tend to expect a dual-core to run any given process at lower speed than if run on a single-core (providing things are optimized sufficiently for dual-core use - we won't know that until it's here).
Downside - higher resolution. With more dots to update on graphics-intensive tasks, more processing is required at the end. More pixels also mean more control transistors on the display itself (by definition for LCDs).
There are just too many factors to know in advance if this will act same, worse or better than an Evo on power.
It could be way more power-efficient - or it could be worse - we'll have to wait and see.
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Benefits of a dual core processor:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/331783-underlying-tech-evo-3d-qhd-3d-dual-core-smp.html
Originally Posted by Acei
Jensen nailed it. In the Android environment, you can't do any process intensive tasks on the foreground thread which processes GUI, otherwise you will end up with super-unresponsive apps. By this nature, you are pretty much forced to go multi-thread. As long as the version of Android used in the phone is SMP enabled, both cores will work at these threads independently, hence experiencing performance gains.
It is true that most apps of today won't utilize both cores to 100% all the time since the workload isn't split symmetrically, but still, a benefit is a benefit. Apps like Smartbench 2011 (I am the author) does symmetrically split workload within the app - I currently split the workload equally into 4 threads hence Smartbench 2011 will utilize 100% up to 4 cores when they become available.
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Related Threads and Links:​Evo3D wiki
Sprint- All Together Now
HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D ? Overview
Underlying tech in the Evo 3D - qHD, 3D, dual-core SMP
EVO 3D speculation of specs
3D "Pop-out" clarified and "violations" that lead to discomfort
Question about graphical capabilities of the Evo 3D compared to Tegra 2 chipsets.
Is the glass beveled on the E3D like the sensation? (No it isn't)
Bootloader Discussion
No need to panic about 'locked' bootloader - HTC listened
Original topic: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/346198-htc-evo-3d-dummies.html

3D Photos Capturing with 2MP resolution ,no good
does support gorilla glass?

i thought all the new phones had micro usb not mini usb

You list both GSM and CDMA attributes. Is this to imply that you've found something that indicates this will be a world phone? Or are you talking about two different models? I haven't seen anything about dual capabilities.

My friends claims his sprint kyocera ehco (new double screened device) can do talk and surf on 3G.....so I was hoping that the evo 3d could do it as well.

mevensen said:
You list both GSM and CDMA attributes. Is this to imply that you've found something that indicates this will be a world phone? Or are you talking about two different models? I haven't seen anything about dual capabilities.
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GSM version is for the UK, this one is gold or yellow.
The CDMA is the Sprint version with is Red...
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Darn, was really hoping that it was going to be a "world" phone.

Since I was the one who started the original thread here are suome updates that have been added (along with quotes and other things...you may just want to copy/paste the whole thing over again into the OP):
The FCC has released some documents today (02/06/11) with the actual specs of the EVO 3D. EarlyMon has confirmed that it will have the MPU-3050 as a three-axis gyroscope as well as the Sequans SQN1210, which was the same 4G hardware used in the EVO 4G. More info is about this breakthrough is being discussed here: [can't post links as a new user] Novox77 has confirmed that there will be NFC support with the PM8058 chip through for any 3rd party's NFC chip, like FeliCa chip (Keep in mind this is not an actual NFC chip). A little bit more info about this discovery can be found farther down in this thread: [can't post links as a new user]

Vindic8ed said:
Since I was the one who started the original thread here are suome updates that have been added (along with quotes and other things...you may just want to copy/paste the whole thing over again into the OP):
The FCC has released some documents today (02/06/11) with the actual specs of the EVO 3D. EarlyMon has confirmed that it will have the MPU-3050 as a three-axis gyroscope as well as the Sequans SQN1210, which was the same 4G hardware used in the EVO 4G. More info is about this breakthrough is being discussed here: [can't post links as a new user] Novox77 has confirmed that there will be NFC support with the PM8058 chip through for any 3rd party's NFC chip, like FeliCa chip (Keep in mind this is not an actual NFC chip). A little bit more info about this discovery can be found farther down in this thread: [can't post links as a new user]
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Thanks, din't know you were here to haha you can ask the mods to give you OP of this topic, I read it in the other forum and like it a lot, it was needed to be here because it has good stuff and you know people don't always read, they ask ask and ask but don't read LOL..
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rockypr said:
Thanks, din't know you were here to haha you can ask the mods to give you OP of this topic, I read it in the other forum and like it a lot, it was needed to be here because it has good stuff and you know people don't always read, they ask ask and ask but don't read LOL..
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You might want to just link the original post at Phandroid. The information in one location then wouldn't need to be re-updated here and wherever else. Plus, you know, it was originally posted there. Credit where credit is due and all that.

does anyone know, does evo 3d support gorilla glass?

x7nofate said:
does anyone know, does evo 3d support gorilla glass?
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Not sure, but I do know it will be supported by Sprints new Network Vision initiative. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!! 800 Mhz ESMR Support.
The FCC has confirmed that the EVO 3D supports 800MHz CDMA in the ESMR band. The ESMR 800MHz band is what Sprint uses for its iDEN network. Sprint eventually plans to transition the ESMR band from iDEN to CDMA as part of its expansive network improvement initiative. Once that transition is complete and Sprint ports its voice services to the ESMR spectrum, the HTC EVO 3D will be able to make use of it.

swaze said:
Not sure, but I do know it will be supported by Sprints new Network Vision initiative. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!! 800 Mhz ESMR Support.
The FCC has confirmed that the EVO 3D supports 800MHz CDMA in the ESMR band. The ESMR 800MHz band is what Sprint uses for its iDEN network. Sprint eventually plans to transition the ESMR band from iDEN to CDMA as part of its expansive network improvement initiative. Once that transition is complete and Sprint ports its voice services to the ESMR spectrum, the HTC EVO 3D will be able to make use of it.
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cool, was there anything said about LTE, I was just looking on engadget and saw some news about the sprint and lightsquared deal

XxDjbluexX said:
cool, was there anything said about LTE, I was just looking on engadget and saw some news about the sprint and lightsquared deal
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Dont think there is an LTE radio in this one, but I wouldn't worry about that for two reasons.
1. If/When Sprint decides to go LTE it will be atleast 2 years out.
2. Even If/When #1 happens, Wimax won't just be disappearing for a while anyway so you are in good shape if you have the Evo 3d.

Any word on when Sprint vision is coming out
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Will the ESMR 800 band support simultaneous voice and data like ATT? Either way once this happens.....I bet sprint phone plans will be around the same price as verizon and att----> expensive !!

Emmexx said:
You might want to just link the original post at Phandroid. The information in one location then wouldn't need to be re-updated here and wherever else. Plus, you know, it was originally posted there. Credit where credit is due and all that.
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Do you know how to read? Beacuse the link has always been there.. The credit is also there...
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Upgrade?
So in reading these specs, is it going to be worth upgrading from the current Evo. They can keep the 3d stuff but do the other specs make this a worthwhile leap?

Um isn't it a qHD display, and 1.2ghz dual core processor........
HTC EVO = my best friend

Ruki_Uki said:
Um isn't it a qHD display, and 1.2ghz dual core processor........
HTC EVO = my best friend
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Yes, it's qHD (which isn't a type, it's a resolution (960x540), like "Full HD" is 1920x1080).
As for the processor, yes, it's a 1.2 ghz dual core Snapdragon processor. It doesn't specifically mention dual core in the OP, but it is (and references the specific processor, the 8660).

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Idiot's Guide to Nexus S and EVO3D - For Idiots.

So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
-Source
EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
IMPORTANT INFO REGARDING SPRINT:
If you didn't already know this, Sprint is changing the way they do their premier customer bonuses.
Basically, they've split premier bonuses into two categories: Silver and Gold
You qualify for Silver status if:
Your monthly base plan is between $69.99 and $89.98 for a SINGLE LINE or between $99.99 and $169.98 for SHARED PLANS.
Silver has the standard 2-year upgrades
You qualify for Gold status if:
Your monthly base plan is $89.99 or more for a single line, or $169.99 or more for shared plans.
OR
If you've been a Sprint customer for 10 or more years
GOLD PREMIER has the one-year upgrade eligibility on the primary line
If you are a student and already on Sprint or planning to switch
Check out this thread regarding a 23% online discount for students.
If you are not a Sprint customer and are thinking of switching over, here's a promotion for you
http://www.samacharexpress.com/2011/03/sprint-offers-150-50-to-wireless-defectors/
They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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cordell12 said:
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
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Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
phatmanxxl said:
No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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phatmanxxl said:
Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
dirkyd3rk said:
I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.

HTC TITAN - An Insight

Guys and Gals,
Great news !!
I have finally received my brand spanking new TITAN...
And I have been surprised already with the great increase in build quality of HTC, and not to forget that they have done wonders with that camera.
A couple of things they don't mention in the specs:
a. It now records in 720p with Stereo sound
b. Noise cancellation in phone calls, absolutely splendid call quality.
c. Despite HTC saying that Internet sharing was added by Microsoft too late, it is their in the settings and works very well
d. a SIM Toolkit app in settings to use with network provider SIM service options !
e. Samsung flash memory is used rather than a microsd card for the 16gb internal memory
f. WP Bench results
CPU
TIME : 15407ms
SEQ 4.86`'5 L/s
PAR 5.55 `'5 L/s
DATA
TIME : 17549ms
BLOCK 5MB
MEM 22.02 MB/s
STOR 10.54 MB/s
GPU
1224 FRAMES AVG : 40 F/s
For once I am actually genuinely happy with what HTC have produced
Any other info anybody would like let me know....
Pictures and even videos please
Does it feel solid or plasticky? Is the build quality superior to the HD7. How big is it really? How's the display and does it make all the text bigger as the resolution is the same...Battery life?
I am so excited for this phone
Really want to know how the display is. 480x800 on 4.3'' was borderline so wondering how is it on 4.7''
sayonical said:
Pictures and even videos please
Does it feel solid or plasticky? Is the build quality superior to the HD7. How big is it really? How's the display and does it make all the text bigger as the resolution is the same...Battery life?
I am so excited for this phone
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The Titan feels very solidly metal, the build is absolutely superb, One cannot compare the HD7 to this beast!
It doesn't feel too big, in fact it feels very very thin in the hand; the feel is such that I get the same dimensional feeling when I hold my Galaxy S2
Everything is bigger, the tiles, the text, and especially the keyboard are much much more touch friendly
Battery life so far I really can't say anything.....
ammarmalik said:
Really want to know how the display is. 480x800 on 4.3'' was borderline so wondering how is it on 4.7''
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Ammar, the display is a beauty, the blacks are deep, viewing angles are excellent ~ 160/160.
There is no pixelation whatsoever, and best of all unlike the HD7 there is no ghosting of scrolling white text on black background
Please post pictures and video!
Also, if you could take some pictures and video with the camera, that would be great.
Use youtube, and imgur.com to host the video and images respectively.
Thanks!
tiny17 said:
Please post pictures and video!
Also, if you could take some pictures and video with the camera, that would be great.
Use youtube, and imgur.com to host the video and images respectively.
Thanks!
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I will try to get some pics up later perhaps....
However, bigger and brighter news
The Titan seems not to be using a microsd card for the internal storage, rather SAMSUNG flash memory.....
This again seems to show that this handset really is worthy of being a flagship device
The titan sounds sweeter as the days go by can't wait for it to land on ATT.
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bhogal said:
d. a SIM Toolkit app in settings to use with network provider SIM service options !
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Could you list your HKLM/Services/SimToolkit registry settings?
How come there's no Titan forum but already a Kindle Fire one?
bhogal said:
Guys and Gals,
Great news !!
I have finally received my brand spanking new TITAN...
And I have been surprised already with the great increase in build quality of HTC, and not to forget that they have done wonders with that camera.
A couple of things they don't mention in the specs:
a. It now records in 720p with Stereo sound
b. Noise cancellation in phone calls, absolutely splendid call quality.
c. Despite HTC saying that Internet sharing was added by Microsoft too late, it is their in the settings and works very well
d. a SIM Toolkit app in settings to use with network provider SIM service options !
e. Samsung flash memory is used rather than a microsd card for the 16gb internal memory
For once I am actually genuinely happy with what HTC have produced
Any other info anybody would like let me know....
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Hi How About sound quality of speakers?? like HD7?? or better?
wonders with that camera??? much better??
one more question, does it have HDMI output ?
Thanks for sharing
efjay said:
How come there's no Titan forum but already a Kindle Fire one?
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Now that is a very good point - is XDA not going to bother with new WP7 phones any more?
Well, the first batch mostly does not have problem with LCD monitors, as it should be with S-LCD.
What I worry about is the later batches, which may use TFT instead, like those HD7/Trophy/Pro with 7389 preloaded. Those LCD monitors have a poor viewing angle, which show negative images at around 50'. You will also see the monitor is yellowish around the edges while the middle is white, which is annoying.
Once your first batch Titan/Radar get something wrong after few months (or a year) and they change the one with poor TFT, then you will be likely to cry.
Good luck!
henry084 said:
Well, the first batch mostly does not have problem with LCD monitors, as it should be with S-LCD.
What I worry about is the later batches, which may use TFT instead, like those HD7/Trophy/Pro with 7389 preloaded. Those LCD monitors have a poor viewing angle, which show negative images at around 50'. You will also see the monitor is yellowish around the edges while the middle is white, which is annoying.
Once your first batch Titan/Radar get something wrong after few months (or a year) and they change the one with poor TFT, then you will be likely to cry.
Good luck!
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I'm sure I wont be doing any crying!
On a slightly more upbeat note, the following are WPBench test results:
CPU
TIME : 15407ms
SEQ 4.86`'5 L/s
PAR 5.55 `'5 L/s
DATA
TIME : 17549ms
BLOCK 5MB
MEM 22.02 MB/s
STOR 10.54 MB/s
GPU
1224 FRAMES AVG : 40 F/s
bhogal said:
I'm sure I wont be doing any crying!
On a slightly more upbeat note, the following are WPBench test results:
CPU
TIME : 15407ms
SEQ 4.86`'5 L/s
PAR 5.55 `'5 L/s
DATA
TIME : 17549ms
BLOCK 5MB
MEM 22.02 MB/s
STOR 10.54 MB/s
GPU
1224 FRAMES AVG : 40 F/s
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Performance is impressive, but the general user experience still on the screen, so the LCD panel does an important role here. (3.7" on TFT is barely acceptable, but 4.7" on TFT......... )
BTW, is your MEM/STOR mark for RAM only? How about the storage media (SDHC/NAND)?
bhogal said:
I'm sure I wont be doing any crying!
On a slightly more upbeat note, the following are WPBench test results:
CPU
TIME : 15407ms
SEQ 4.86`'5 L/s
PAR 5.55 `'5 L/s
DATA
TIME : 17549ms
BLOCK 5MB
MEM 22.02 MB/s
STOR 10.54 MB/s
GPU
1224 FRAMES AVG : 40 F/s
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did the htc titan just outperform the i937 in 2 out of 3 tests?
CPU and Data? The only thing it didn't outperform it in was gpu which was 41 vs the titan 40...now that is interesting
snap some photos! let's see what the camera can do!
Is there a US release date yet?
domineus said:
did the htc titan just outperform the i937 in 2 out of 3 tests?
CPU and Data? The only thing it didn't outperform it in was gpu which was 41 vs the titan 40...now that is interesting
snap some photos! let's see what the camera can do!
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1.5 GHz versus 1.4 GHz, everything else is equal. The HTC phones should be the fastest
Had any problems with the grip of death?, that might be on the titan?
And yes ATT get your rears in gear, I just hope they won't demand firstborn for payment.
Excited to see the pics it will take when you get them up bhogal.
Man, keep us update with your experience , because i depend on you to decide to deal with Evil AT&T or not.
Just got a beta radar 4g and I actually prefer it to the titan. The titan is nice but the build quality on the radar just feels superb. I wish they'd release something like the dvp except with a FFC, I'd be in love but for now I think I'm actually going to give the radar a few days. I wish I could add memory to it though :/...

The next Evo successor

I was thinking..
First off, I'm very happy with my 3D.
OK, I started to think about next years Evo, Wondering how its going to be.
knowing Evo line is top dog for sprint. I know, Sprint wont disappoint next year.
I cant imagine what else can Htc can put in a phone to make it better?
Are super 3D phone is a nice phone. but, next years Evo should get better all around!
So just for fun, what do you guys think the next successor for are beloved Evo 3d will have under the hood?
I know Sprint is having a presentation in CES, which should be intresting.
also, Htc needs to step up there game knowing Samsung has taken the lead.
I 'm thinking they need to come out with something better than Galaxy Nexus which is Samsung best phone now.
And finally will Htc add 3d to the next Evo successor?
I hope next Evo has:
-Kickstand I really miss it.
-1080p recording
-4.7 inch 720p screen (want higher ppi than iphone)
-Cpu: I'm sorry Htc, just drop Qualcomm go with tegra 3!
-ram 1.5
-internal storage 16gb/up
-bigger battery 1950 mah?
-WORLD PHONE!?
-Lte? because wimax is having a slow death.
- Better 3D
Thoughts?
All that but I want two gigs of ram. Why you ask? Nintendo DS emulators haha. Two gigs and a tegra three would most likely make that possible
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why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
JoelZ9614 said:
why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
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+1
Qualcomm's S4 are better imo than tegra 3.
Google HTC EDGE / HTC ZETA .
1.5 GHz tegra vs 2.5GHz Qualcomm's S4
JoelZ9614 said:
why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
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Yup Yup!!
Anyone that has doubts of Qualcomm needs to read up on their new s4 chips. Were talking LTE modem built into the freaking die of the chip itself! Supposed to save huge on battery life in regards to that aspect. Watch the engadget district video that has the HTC new developer tablet on it for ton more info.
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sgt. slaughter said:
Yup Yup!!
Anyone that has doubts of Qualcomm needs to read up on their new s4 chips. Were talking LTE modem built into the freaking die of the chip itself! Supposed to save huge on battery life in regards to that aspect. Watch the engadget district video that has the HTC new developer tablet on it for ton more info.
Also its probable that we won't have the next big EVO till later in the year as compared to the past when its been June/july. Seems were lookin at septemberish now based on the sprint exec saying first LTE phones in late 3rd qtr next yr.
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Qualcomm is probably one of the top tech companies in the world right now. Just because Tegra 2 had the spot light in 2011, don't underestimate the S3 and the upcoming S4. They have some of the highlight ARM architecture in all the world, focusing not just on raw power but a balance of on-board radios, power conservation, and developing their own GPUs.
I'm betting July will see the EVO LTE, maybe quad-core, 4.7" 720p with NFC and Beats audio, and of course LTE radio. By then, HTC might also make the full-time swap to AMOLED screens.
You have to look at it like this, the next EVO will be the TRUE EVO sequel, because original EVO owners will be coming off their 2-year contracts.
CPU
Thanks for the reply's.
Anyways, I took a look at Qualcomm s4 processors and was very impress.
I might have to take back what I said about dropping Qualcomm
and getting tegra 3.
Lastly I read somewhere that maybe Intel will be also making a announcement same time frame as sprint? maybe Evo super phone with Intel Cpu??
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
Qualcomm is the best right now, but no reason to leave it. Wimax is going downhill fast though, so lte is much stronger signal to get inside buildings.
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I just want one camera with a higher quality sensor and use the rest of that space for a decent speaker.
Dear HTC, we do not all live and work in quiet environments. When $20 prepaid throw away phones are ringing louder than yours, there is a problem.
I'd settle for the exact same CPU/GPU (clocked at 1.5) if it had a brighter 720p 3D screen that DIDN'T lower its resolution when in 3D (like 3DS, it would technically be 2560x720 ro 2560x1440, but have 1280x720 effectively in and out of 3D)
I'd buy two of the damned things. Why? F**k you, that's why!
z50king said:
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
Qualcomm is the best right now, but no reason to leave it. Wimax is going downhill fast though, so lte is much stronger signal to get inside buildings.
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The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
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Lol i want this phone! I especially liked the G+ integration.. i am days away from deleting my FB!
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
-
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I am literally camping out in front of a Sprint store and adding another line to my family plan to get this monster should it become a reality as opposed to just far-flung hopes and dreams, spectacular as they may be.
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
-
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Ditto, you pretty much nailed what the next one should be like.
I'll add that they dial up Carl Ziess & get serious about the camera & it's lens.
- I want an AMOLED screen....first and foremost. After seeing how amazing things look on those screens, I won't consider any phone that doesn't have that in the future.
- At least 16GB of eMMC storage
- MicroSDXC capable card slot
- Screen size like the Galaxy Nexus
- Include the stock android launcher. I like sense apps (messaging, browser, etc), but give me the option to use the stock launcher
- Processor/GPU of similar/better performance to the Exynos processors in the ET4G
- LTE and WiMax radios. If sprint is going to continue to support wimax, there will be pockets where you have one, but not the other. Allow us to connect to both.
Make the phone thinner!
It should look more like the HTC Sensation, but maybe a 4.5 inch HD screen.
bigger battery
More ram
BETTER camera
krayziejoe said:
Make the phone thinner!
It should look more like the HTC Sensation, but maybe a 4.5 inch HD screen.
bigger battery
More ram
BETTER camera
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One thing i dont want to see is it being thinner or redic. thin. I like the size thickness wise of the phones now to be honest.
-LTE
-Tegra3 Processor 1.5ghz. Not underclocked.
-An actual 4gb ram after software installation.
-16gb internal storage with 64gb microsd slot
-Keep qHD res. Higher res means harder to find crystal clear wallpapers.
-Samsung display colors. They are gorgeous.
-ICS Stock
-Kickstand(A MUST)
-2000mah battery or higher in a slim design.
-All black sleek design with red casing like Evo 4G.
-Better camera photo wise.
-Last but not least...Button apart of the phone again. Not the back door like this phone. My power button sinks in and I have to remove the door and put it back on to fix it again.
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z50king said:
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
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I don't really understand it either. I'm taking cell phone videos, not a major motion picture.

My First Impressions on the HTC EVO 4G LTE

Hello guys! After months of false starts, broken promises, sudden price increases ("Yeah I can do $300...well okay how about $320 and you pay shipping?"), and other bits of misfortune, I have finally gotten my hands on this amazing device. So I thought I'd share my thoughts on it after giving it a few days to try out. You never know who would be interested in such an opinion.
**warning
This thread is absolutely useless and is only your friendly neighborhood XDA News Writer sharing an opinion. Feel free to not take it seriously.
**Note
Yes, I am aware the phone was released awhile ago. This is my first impressions personally, not world's first impressions.
Okay, since I suck at review-type posts in general, I'm going to start typing now. Stop reading at the end or when you're bored
Screen:
The screen is gorgeous. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The size and resolution of this phone is simply beautiful.
Camera:
Above average but not "omgzorz amazing". It is good enough to skip buying a point-and-click. Not good enough for photographers. Thankfully, I am not a photographer. The features for the camera are nice, but I'm not an Instagram person (or even a photo filter person). So half the stuff I realistically use, and half I probably never will.
Form Factor/Hardware/Buttons:
This is by far the thinnest phone I've ever owned. I came from the Galaxy Nexus (which is a great phone too), and this one is so thin I actually had problems handling it for the first day. I kept forgetting the phone was that thin. Personally, I like the capacitive buttons over the on-screen buttons. I know all my screen real estate is being dedicated to apps. None of that "4.65 inch screen...but really you're only getting 4.3 inches because of the soft buttons" crap. Everything else is well placed and looks good. The kickstand is way better than the OG EVO. The back plastic plate isn't nearly as hard to get off as video reviewers seem to make it sound (read: they're pansies ).
Performance:
Holy crap. Once I got it tuned to how I like it, not even Google Voice lags (it lags in Bluestacks running on my freaking 8-core processor for Christ's sake). When I first got it and it was first activated, I had some hiccups in the app drawer and pinch-to-zoom in Chrome. I've since installed a custom ROM (MeanROM), set the governor to ondemand, clocked by processor back to 1.5GHz (stock MeanROM comes 1.7GHz OC), and I've had no lag at all ever since. Usually a phone I own lags in some way that's slightly annoying but not a deal breaker (i.e. when scrolling a list in Plume, that slight "pause" when you switch the home screen right after turning the screen on, or taking unusually long to make menu selections). This doesn't seem to have that problem.
Battery/Temp:
The battery on this thing is incredible. Yes, it's not removable. I never used multiple batteries anyway. I actually moved today and the phone held up like a champ. After packing up my computer and TV, my phone was my only source of entertainment for a good while. At the time of this writing, I have 35% after 14 hours (on track for ~20 hours, if I felt like waiting that long). It was at least moderate usage. ~250 texts, frequent messaging via gTalk and Facebook Messenger, SNESoid gaming, a Billiards game I like to play, 25 minutes in phone calls, over 2 hours in screen on time with about 60% of my day spent on WiFi and 40% on 3G. Includes some random web browsing (I recovered my Xbox Live password with my phone browser and checked my bank account a couple of times), app updates, and general phone stuff. Screen shots below:
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What truly impressed me, though, is the temperature. I'd expect something so thin to vent heat well, but I also expected to get warm. It simply didn't happen. Once I put my CPU clock back to regular 1.5, my phone was an ice cube all day long, dropping down to as low as 20C, or 68F. My computer doesn't get that cool when it's turned off and tossed in the now in the snow. Admittedly, I wouldn't know, since I've never done something so stupid as to toss my computer in the snow. Screen shot below:
TL;DR (performance): I got a 6400 on Quadrant running MeanROM overclocked at 1.7GHz. My emulators run at 60fps and they stay there. My phone hasn't risen above 30C since I first turned it on (minus 5 minutes when I was restoring apps via titanium backup and when I flashed the custom ROM).
Call Quality:
I got 3 phone calls. They were all loud, clear, and wonderful. Didn't have to max out my speaker volume like with prior devices.
WiFi/3G/4G:
WiFi connects quickly and I don't lose signal ever. 3G is almost 2 times faster than it was on the Epic 4G Touch (in speedtest.net tests I neglected to screen shot. I got 300kbps down on Epic Touch, 550kbps down on EVO LTE...not great numbers but still better is better. Obviously YMMV). I have no 4G LTE where I live (damn you Sprint).
*Added*
Music Quality:
This is my first phone with Beats enabled. I freaking love it. I mostly use my phone to listen to music while in the car. Beats itself is a tad bassy, but I used my car's equalizer (primitive as it may be) to dial down the bass a bit and I got one of the fullest, best music experiences I've ever had with an Android phone. I blame it all on Beats, but hey this phone has it lol.
Root Stuff:
Creating a backup in TWRP 2.3.1 took 133 seconds (about twice as fast as it does on the Galaxy Nexus as of TWRP 2.2, I never tested on TWRP so it could be faster now for the Nexus). Restoring 45 user apps in titanium backup was faster than I've ever seen it go. I haven't had to restore a backup yet, but I imagine it's much quicker than I'm accustomed to. The S-Off process looks like it's going to be a lot of fun (currently just HTCdev unlocked) and I can't wait to try that out. I might make a video or something, who knows.
My pros:
1. Quick as hell.
2. Cool as hell (in both looks and actual, literal temperature)
3. Handles all games, all tasks, and all nonsense well.
4. My goodness I missed having a kickstand.
5. No connectivity problems (signal, data, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc)
6. Battery lasts for a really long time considering I used it more today than I ever will in a single day until I move again.
7. Great HTC build quality.
8. Sense 4.1 = best HTC Sense ever (it's still bloated, but not nearly as bad as older Sense)
My Cons:
1. Non removable battery isn't that bad, but I'd still like to battery pull when I need to.
2. Charging to 90% takes like 30 minutes. Charging from 90% to 100% takes twice that long for some reason.
3. Facebook as a system app? Oh hells nah!
4. That plastic back plate is ugly. And a finger print magnet. And it called my mom fat.
5. It doesn't pay my taxes for me.
Summary:
This is definitely among the top 3 best phones I've ever owned right up there with the OG EVO and the Galaxy Nexus. I include the OG EVO because it has one of the greatest dev communities ever. this phone doesn't have that huge dev community, but the devs we do have are talented and awesome (I know, I write about them quite frequently). Can't wait to start flashing random things and see what I can make this phone do.
Thanks for reading, don't forget to tell me how stupid it was and rate the thread a 1 star lol.
TL;DR
Please keep your crappy opinions to yourself.
(just kidding)
Thanks for the post and for reminding me why I love my EVO so much! If you like MeanROM, you should really give ViperROM a try, it runs like the road runner and has glorious customizations.
And, if you're not a huge fan of the Sense camera and wouldn't mind using an AOSP camera, definitely try the Paranoid Android ROM. You'll be surprised how versatile our EVO can be combining our awesome screen with the ability to customize how apps are displayed (each individual app can be run with a different DPI and in a separate workspace like tablet mode or regular phone mode)
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I plan on trying all the ROMs eventually. I needed something trustworthy and stable because I moved the day after I got this so I didn't have time to really troubleshoot potential issues with the more experimental stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it
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Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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i want to sell my htc evo 4g lte..
because.. im moving to lumia 920..
just only one reasion..
because i cant play youtube player on my htc evo lte 4g..
this bad...
jan_set said:
i want to sell my htc evo 4g lte..
because.. im moving to lumia 920..
just only one reasion..
because i cant play youtube player on my htc evo lte 4g..
this bad...
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Y you moving to lumia?
FinZ28 said:
Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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Get the S3, EVO radios have too many issues especially with LTE. If you have no plans to use it for LTE in 2 years, and live in a very saturated signal area it is a great phone.
digiblur said:
Get the S3, EVO radios have too many issues especially with LTE. If you have no plans to use it for LTE in 2 years, and live in a very saturated signal area it is a great phone.
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I've been reading about those issues. I've also been looking to see when LTE is coming to my area (Birmingham, AL) and it's not on the list of upcoming cities to even get it. Of course, we never officially got Wimax, but parts of the city have it.
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AbsolutZeroGI all we need now is myn to cook warm 4.0 for us and ill revamp warmblood for it. good to see you again bro. welcome to the LTE.
FinZ28 said:
I've been reading about those issues. I've also been looking to see when LTE is coming to my area (Birmingham, AL) and it's not on the list of upcoming cities to even get it. Of course, we never officially got Wimax, but parts of the city have it.
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Every native Sprint city will get it.
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digiblur said:
Every native Sprint city will get it.
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Oh, I know. It's just a matter of time.
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FinZ28 said:
Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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They are both fantastic phones and it's going to be really tough getting an objective opinion on either of them (fanbois will be fanbois). For my purposes, I live in a saturated 3G area with no immediately 4G plans coming (although I do get WiMAX). I've experienced exactly 0 radio problems ever but I've also only had it for like a week. I got this phone because:
1. People on eBay, XDA Marketplace, Craigslist, etc seem to think that the Galaxy S III is worth $100 more than the EVO LTE when it's almost identical hardware (1GB of extra RAM and .05 inches of extra screen space is not a justifiable reason to charge an extra $100, even Motorola knows that).
2. I've missed having good build quality along with good specs. My last 3 devices were Samsung phones and while the phones are nice and sleek and gorgeous, it just irritated me that my phone was made entirely out of the same material as most children's toys. It's strictly a personal preference and I advise not making a decision based on it...but yknow. Other than build quality, OEM skin (TW vs Sense), that extra 1GB of RAM and that .05 inches of extra screen, there is literally no difference between these phones. Both have excellent 8MP shooters, both have the S4 dual core processor clocked to 1.5GHz, both have HD screens, both have front facing cameras, neither use on-screen buttons, and they both have those "little features" like NFC. So when it came down to it, I decided I'd rather have build quality over an extra gig of RAM (that I'll probably never use since I"m a kill app-aholic) and an extra .05 inches of screen (because, yknow, you can tell the difference). For others, they may want the extra gig of RAM...depends on what they want.
You can't go wrong either way, especially since you have an upgrade due and you'll get charged (closer to) fair prices for these phones instead of the ridiculous prices owners online are asking for. Best of luck and I hope you make the best decision for what you need and want. Don't let fanboyism get in the way!
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AbsolutZeroGI all we need now is myn to cook warm 4.0 for us and ill revamp warmblood for it. good to see you again bro. welcome to the LTE.
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Thank you sir! I'd love to see some Warm goodness and some warmblood goodness as well One of the best themes from the EVO 4G. There's a few devs who's names I recognize and I'm glad to see you hanging out in these forums! I need to go hunting to see if you've released anything
PoorCollegeGuy said:
They are both fantastic phones and it's going to be really tough getting an objective opinion on either of them (fanbois will be fanbois). For my purposes, I live in a saturated 3G area with no immediately 4G plans coming (although I do get WiMAX). I've experienced exactly 0 radio problems ever but I've also only had it for like a week. I got this phone because:
1. People on eBay, XDA Marketplace, Craigslist, etc seem to think that the Galaxy S III is worth $100 more than the EVO LTE when it's almost identical hardware (1GB of extra RAM and .05 inches of extra screen space is not a justifiable reason to charge an extra $100, even Motorola knows that).
2. I've missed having good build quality along with good specs. My last 3 devices were Samsung phones and while the phones are nice and sleek and gorgeous, it just irritated me that my phone was made entirely out of the same material as most children's toys. It's strictly a personal preference and I advise not making a decision based on it...but yknow. Other than build quality, OEM skin (TW vs Sense), that extra 1GB of RAM and that .05 inches of extra screen, there is literally no difference between these phones. Both have excellent 8MP shooters, both have the S4 dual core processor clocked to 1.5GHz, both have HD screens, both have front facing cameras, neither use on-screen buttons, and they both have those "little features" like NFC. So when it came down to it, I decided I'd rather have build quality over an extra gig of RAM (that I'll probably never use since I"m a kill app-aholic) and an extra .05 inches of screen (because, yknow, you can tell the difference). For others, they may want the extra gig of RAM...depends on what they want.
You can't go wrong either way, especially since you have an upgrade due and you'll get charged (closer to) fair prices for these phones instead of the ridiculous prices owners online are asking for. Best of luck and I hope you make the best decision for what you need and want. Don't let fanboyism get in the way!
Thank you sir! I'd love to see some Warm goodness and some warmblood goodness as well One of the best themes from the EVO 4G. There's a few devs who's names I recognize and I'm glad to see you hanging out in these forums! I need to go hunting to see if you've released anything
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Currently only sinister LTE. Got a lot of stuff almost ready for release on the pc though.
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[Poll] NEW Umeox x202(?) KK4.4, 320x320, IP68, MTK6572W, 1900mhz

Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core, MTK6572w (Not the 6577)
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
My interest is high. I would buy if it had kk and some improvements in hardware.
Perhaps if MediaTek is participating with the Android One initiative we will see better support? Dunno what the board specs are so who really knows.
http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-eve...-affordable-smartphones-for-emerging-markets/
But yes, I would buy it right now if it had a slight hardware bump and KK.
Couldn't agree more! But in the end, the TS was a first. Technology firsts don't have the greatest of track records. Of the standalones available or coming available, ie Gear S, AI Watch and various no name SZ offerings, this is the only decent possibility. IMHO
Yes, if it has KK, Bluetooth low energy, all the previous flaky bluetooth issues are fixed, speakerphone call quality is improved and my biggest issue, battery and SIM shouldn't need a screw driver to get at, make it easy, it isn't water proof and doesnt need to be
mghtymse007 said:
Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
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This is the x201 specs, except for the screen and uC. I do not see the use for a 320x320 1,6'' screen. Maybe a 320x240 2'' (same width). I do not follow 6577 instead of 6572: More power required (40nm vs 28nm) and I see low need for faster CPU.
Umeox branding is fine - the company that can just not disappear without loosing credibility.
However, the specs are OK, it could be interesting.
But the most important is in the details:
* Thickness/weight?
* Auto-focus on camera? (Why 5MP....)
* Control of kernel and Android at Umeox? Quality of drivers? Follow the GPL? Work with the community? Android updates?
* HW reliability? Real or fake IP68?
There are alternatives already. Personally, I want a sports device with barometer and preferably ANT+ too, nothing there yet.
However, I will pass on this one until the commitment to live up to the specs can be believed, the track record is not too good (I still believe Omate had good intentions).
Edit: Getting stable ROM and usable kernel source for existing x201 is one way to make me interested.
Yes
I think I would like my TS if its touchscreen was not defective. I will be trying again with some type of stand alone phone swatch. not interested in a BT dongle watch.
Interested in the PCB, components and full source code. Then build these instead;
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kuronosan said:
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
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I agree with you on this. I bought the Extreme Edition of the watch. If they would let me trade in my current one for, at least, some credit towards buying the new one, it would be nice.
I would be interested.... Support would be my biggest concern... The TS does everything I need it to do. I had no designs on it replacing my phone other than when running... Beyond that, it's a glorified iPod for me so it works as intended... My issue with it is that if the band breaks or it has some other problem, there's little to nothing that can be done about it. I wear it everyday and so far it's held up but I'm sure it's only a matter of time...
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
perpe said:
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
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You are correct. After a quick confirmation, he was mistaken in his first spec list. The CPU is going to be:
MTK6572w
I just got the full spec sheet from Umeox. I'll check if I can post publicly.
Will change OP, thanks for heads up.
Sometimes tapa is slower than me...
speedyink said:
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
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Agreed on the styling... I have had strangers ask about it because they liked the style of the Omate.
The Iron Man is the x202.
1. I would need dimension: width, height and thickness ... some are far too big and thick to wear.
2. Battery life!?
3. Loads of sensors ...barometer, compass. ..etc. with sensors it can compete with other sport watches.
4. What assurances can they give that they will keep their promise?
I mean we can all show our interest but we're not obliged to order so yes I'm interested with the same conviction as the supplier.
MT6572 - the same (or similar) processor as the InWatch Z, interesting, with MediaTek MiraVision.
Sounds relatively interesting-whether I would actually shell out hard cash is another thing altogether.
Still finding little niggles with my TS-so just a bit wary.
water resistent? Strap changeable? scratch protection? If no, there is no reason to change from my Omate and Simvalley AW420...
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So if 500 orders are made then what happens? What are the nexts steps?

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