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I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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Yup, that's exactly my price point, too.
The only thing to consider is that Best Buy will sell you the Flyer on an 18 month, no-interest payment schedule if you want. I may go that path if I get impatient. Also, get the Fujitsu sylus that works with the Flyer. B&H has it for $25.00 shipped:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/772804-REG/Fujitsu_FPCPN36AP_Extra_Stylus_for_Fujitsu_s.html
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I understand why many people feel the flyer is expensive. Consider the following reason and think again:
1. HTC Flyer is the only Tablet that has a digitizer on it. The usage is unlimited. The problem is that many android lovers are not developing. We are only "MODing". Creating custom ROMs, etc. I you know what that digitizer can do, in terms of application you will know that having a Flyer is worth all the penny spent.
2. Bestbuy now sells the Flyer to you with the HTC Pen. Just tell them you want the HTC before you pay. Tell them the HTC pen must be included.
3. If you have a working laptop or tablet, you can trade it in at Bestbuy to reduce the cost of any device you buy from Bestbuy.
4. You need to try out the Note app with voice recording on the Flyer. The recording is extremely loud. And also, it is synced with EverNotes.
5. If the Flyer meets your needs, go for it. If not, don't go for it.
There used to be a promotion going on where the pen was free. Just tell them that you weren't available to buy the Flyer when the promotion was going on. They gave me a free pen.
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I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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The price point kind of makes it not really a "working man's tablet", does it not? I'm just joking, just thought it was funny thinking of some carpenter sitting there messing around with his little flyer.
1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
2. Single-core, duo-core, quad-core all that crap, just doesn't need to be focused on nearly as much as people think. The real proof is in the pudding. The thing runs fine, and unless you REALLY plan on seriously playing 3D games what does it matter? Everyone is so obsessed with having the most powerful processor, or best video processing... How much time do you actually spend playing those high demanding games? Maybe 1% of your usage of the tablet? And it's not even that the tablet can't play them, it's just that it won't be as FAST as some crazy tegra 2 thing.
3. The thing is awesome for what it is. I walked into a best buy the other day (just to pick up a 40$ bt dongle I needed for a few days, then I returned it, I'm not a sucker) and was tooling about with two other 7" tabs (the fujitsu and some other one) and they were pretty much garbage. They ran like 100$ cheaper. Over the 1-2 year lifetime of my tablet, 100$ is very little. Especially for a device I use so often...
Anyway, sorry about the long post.
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1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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You need a Flyer.
I've paid 1000$ to buy it. It deserves because Im using every single option included.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Not disappointed at all. This is your personal point of view. I dont agree with you. The pen is accurate fast and u can use it to write notes (like the physical yellow notes) certainly you will not use it to write the human history!
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I agree, though I do not use it at all (even I have enabled the phone features in it s-off), you pay for quality and performance. Another think I like about HTC (I use them from almost 7 years), is the battery. It will last very long...
If anybody interested, I live in Canada and I will be selling it. Let someone enjoy it...
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1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
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Oh, I wouldn't use it to take notes at a lecture. For that it would be inadequate, I agree. But based on my experience playing with it in Best Buy, it should be more than adequate for jotting down a few instructions, perhaps a quick diagram or two.
Many tablets, including the Transformer and Galaxy Tab, have cheap plastic bodies. They don't match the sturdiness, look and feel of the Flyer's aluminum body.
When you consider that, the digitizer for the pen (as already mentioned), and maybe other things, it might be that the Flyer costs more to manufacture, and HTC cannot actually afford to charge less and still maintain a decent margin.
Also, the single core 1.5 GHz CPU is actually faster at most things then the dual core tablets (most of which are 1 GHz). Most applications do not support dual core CPU's yet, so its the raw processing clock speed of one core that counts. The dual core comes into play when multi-tasking, such as running processes in the background and switching between apps. If you compare the Flyer to other tablets, you will find the Flyer is actually snappier and smoother most the time. Honeycomb is inherently laggy at this time, and that's partially to blame. But the single core CPU is part of it, too.
I have to agree that it is a bit expensive but it meets my requirements and I use it all day.
I use Notes in all of my meetings or just to jot things down while walking around campus.
It is nowhere near the feature rich MS OneNote but I hope the next version (if there will be one) incorporates some.
As for speed, I don't see a delay when writing.
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It's expensive cause it's good build quality and it's new. Flyer's hard ware is really good: beautiful screen + ntrig digitizer, 1GB ram, Al body,... And HTC has to pay other companies for patent fees, about $50/smart phone. In addition, mobile device market is so HOT now. Remember that the Galaxy tab was also very expensive when it was released. I think we pay most of that money for things we can't see which related to R&D, marketing,... Chinese stuffs are cheap cause they don't pay for those things and they are crap(py).
However from inking point of view, with the "magic" pen, the Flyer is the best in market right now (do not consider Windows devices which are bulky and power hungry). But at the end, thinking about $500-700 laptops, we are definitely overcharged for Flyers. Still love them though.
Don't forget Sense. I think they put a considerable amount of time and money into Sense to make HTC devices distinguishable.
I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but I think the average consumer likes the clean look, and you can only get Sense with HTC, so they can charge more.
I sometimes think it is wise that HTC spends so much time on their UI because that's what the consumer notices.
damn Dollar... i paid 650€ (Germany)for mine -> 950$ ... early adopter
What is wrong with American electronics prices?
Everyting half the price, as else where in the world.
But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
Looks like, they cant afford average world market prices anymore
So before you complain, compare world prices... thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
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Gosh I don't really think so. I think its because things have ALWAYS been cheaper here than overseas. It might also depend on sales volume. There are a lot of people in the US vs some European countries. It perhaps cheaper to market/sell products here vs some more bureaucratic nations. But thats just my guess.
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Thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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So TRUE. And check the oil price, price of almost everything too (of course we have a bit higher tax here in Europe).
The whole world (especially developing countries) is "subsidizing" the US market. Not so much for us in Europe. But we are "trying hard" now to have subsidy from Africa, Asia, Middle East. LOL.
It is cheaper to ship in the U.S. because fuel prices are lower than Europe. We still produce much of our own fuel. Taxes are lower in the U.S.. The number of consumers with disposable income is higher in the U.S.. The highway infrastructure in the U.S. is better than most European countries.
Sum that all up and we get cheaper prices on most consumer goods.
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Hi,
I bought this Sony Tablet S last weekend with the idea that I would try it and return it. I also bought a Motorola Xoom with the same intentions. I wasn't really able to try the Tablet S because everytime I picked up the device in the store the anti-theft alarm would sound. The salesperson reluctantly admitted I could take it back if I didn't like it, I usually don't this kind of thing as I prefer to wait and buy online cheaper.
Anyways it's been a week. My heart was set on getting an Xoom, I like Motorola but the screen quality... I don't want one even though I found two used for $300 with accessories.
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
The things I like about it:
- Durable! I plan on having this in my bedroom, I can fall asleep with it in the bed and I highly doubt I'd break it. Same for carrying it around the house, it doesn't need any kind of case.
- The Shape. It is decent to hold and it really does work well at a table. The angle makes viewing and typing a lot better.
- It's a Sony. I like Sony, I just hope they actually support this device unlike that piece of junk Sony Dash I foolishly bought last year.
- The remote feature. It's not near as advanced as I would like but the software is "Version 1.0". I'm hoping it progresses and becomes more advanced with "activities". I don't mind the layout at all, I think the buttons look good. The one thing I find is that it could be faster in switching between devices.
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
- I like the charge system. I don't have a dock yet, it's ordered but I like the fact it just drops in and easily lifts out. I could see all the other tablets docks requiring more effort to align and slide in/out of their respective docks.
- The Sony tweaks to the Android OS. I like them, I just hope it's not a drawback... waiting for Sony each time a new version is available.
- The Sony games. I don't game much anymore but it's a welcome addition for me.
- The HD Remote. Man, I wish I waited six more months before buying my XBR-LX900. This years models seem to have a better integration with this tablet.
- I like the fact that it's user serviceable. The battery can be changed and a 3G/4G card can be inserted.
What I don't like:
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
- It's looks. At times I like the way it looks, at other times... I think it looks / feels cheap. But mind you, it's very durable the way it is. I wouldn't hesitate to allow a child to play with it.
- The price. Way over-priced for what it is! I suppose all tablets are though, but at least Motorola has style. I like the looks and feel of the Motorola build much better.
- Weight... it is a touch heavy even though this is suppose to be one of the lighter tablets. Just imagine in five years the tablets we will have?
- The charge cord. If you don't use a dock (which should come with it!!!) that charge cord is going to break.
- And again lastly.. this isn't really a knock on Sony but I honestly feel it's too early to spend this kind of money on this types of hardware. Tablets are in their infancy, none of them are worth what we are paying for them. Honestly I think most tablets really should be priced at $199 or $299 for what they are. $499 is just.... too much money for what it is.
Anyways for me, I've decided to keep the Tablet S even though I know I will regret it in six months. I need a new alarm clock, I'd like to be able to convienantly check things from my bedroom and I would like to experiment with Android... so here I am.
I see the Tablet S as having a long life with me for it's simple durability. I don't have to baby it, it'll serve well for what it is. A portable household browser / email device. I don't think of this Tablet as something you would take out with you. For that I will mostly likely get a second or third generation Motorola.
I am also a proud owner of the Sony Tablet. This review is very well said.. can't disagree.. you should post this review in sites like Amazon.
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dberladyn said:
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
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This unfortunately is always the case with tech, once the Kal-El (quad core Tegras) come out you'll see price drops on the dual core ones. Doesnt mean your tablet is going to become useless though just you wont be state of the art anymore
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
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Really? I absolutely love reading on my S tab, the display is sharp and clear.
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
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I agree on this, wish the colors did pop a bit more something in between S tablet and Galaxy would have been nice. And yeah the thing I hate most is the charging connector, everytime I plug it in I feel like its going to break. Guess Ill have to buy a dock as well.
Yeah I agree, it's totally overpriced, the cost of the case is ridiculous too... but, that's Sony for ya.
I also have a wifi Xoom and think it's a piece of junk compared to the S, and most other HC tablets out there. It's laggy and the screen is so washed out and bland. The Sony S flips through screens so smoothly, gives a nice tablet experience.
Damn... my country still haven't release Sony Tablet S... ARGHH!!!.... my don't they just do global release...
Yeah Sony product is expensive but GOODD!!!
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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Dude. Enough with the jetsream already! Its all you talk about. No offense. But go get a jetstream, and post in their forums.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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The Jetstream blows.
Transformer Prime Champagne Gold impressions
Well, as karma has it, I was able to get a 32GB Champagne Gold Transformer Prime, with the dock, last Friday and played with it over the weekend.
I was worried about many of the problems people were reporting and I was slightly afraid when starting up the device, I did not want to see bad light bleeds or dead pixels and so on. While the tablet itself ended up being perfect, I was still hit with a crippling bug of the keyboard dock not being able to be used for typing at all.
I found it almost ironic that I ended up with a serious flaw like that. I really thought that forums give a wrong impression about ASUS quality control, but reality is that it really is very, very bad. It is almost like gambling, chance that you'll get a functioning device without flaws that will annoy you from the very beginning, are very low.
I'll get the device replaced and essentially add to the pile of devices that are being returned to ASUS. But that aside, here are my impressions about the tablet, since I did use the tablet without the keyboard quite a bit.
Champagne Gold is absolutely beautiful in real life. It is a really attractive looking device, it's not as 'white' as Apple's aluminum devices are and is so much better for it with the slight golden gue making it look less clinical. Pictures don't do it justice, Champagne Gold Transformer Prime is the best looking tablet I've held in my hands.
The build is also very sturdy. I am glad I did not go for one of the plastic built tablets of yesteryear as I really love the feel of the tablet when I hold it. It is slightly heavier than I expected but only because I've never used tablets this extensively before.
Of course this design has its drawbacks, such as very weak GPS, but I tend to use my phone for GPS due to assisted GPS from cell towers, which is just much quicker. As for WiFi issues, I did not notice any, but I also did not run any speed tests. I mostly make the tablet use my phone as source of internet and it didn't have any problems doing so.
The first bootup ran Honeycomb and I immediately noticed that it simply did not run smoothly despite quad-core processing power driving it. But I liked the screen and after wiping the screen properly, touch responsiveness was good.
A mere 15 minutes later the device had updated itself to Android 4.0 and I had no stutter or lag issues anymore when moving around the menus or using the browser.
The screen is really beautiful and bright with good contrast. And the external sound is better than I expected. I watched the new 30 Rock episode with girlfriend on a couch and it was a nice experience, much better than trying to hold a laptop comfortably while watching a show. MX video player works very well on Prime, I watched Boardwalk Empire on my way back home on a train and it is a great device for extended viewing. It is amazing how much more natural it feels to watch series or movies on a tablet device like this as opposed to laptop.
Most apps seem to run quite well on Prime. But Android has its drawbacks on tablets, a lot of really great looking games do not have HD versions, making them look less attractive on the screen. Some of my favorites such as truly amazing World of Goo and Cut the Rope worked well on Prime, but their beautiful art was stretched to full screen, making the games look less magical than they felt when I was playing them on my Galaxy Nexus phone (which has a similar resolution to Prime, but far smaller screen).
I tried to use my tablet as a netbook, but without working keyboard I coould not really give it as much of a go as I hoped. But browsing around in the internet was fast and smooth and I really like Android for a tablet OS.
Battery lasted less than I hoped, but I cannot say it was bad since I did not charge it enough times for it to live up to its full potential. But I did not have to charge it while I was using, so it did not cause any battery stress.
I also liked that ASUS does not enforce its things on the user. Majority of pre-installed apps can be disabled and ASUS own enhancements are good for the device. They did not add anything that felt like bloatware.
As for the screen, yes it is certainly a fingerprint magnet. It does not bother me until I start watching a movie or whatnot. Makes me feel like I should clean it up because it simply is dirty (even when hands are less oily and have recently been washed).
Is this the best tablet I have ever used? Not really, iPad 2 is still a better media and content consumption device and I find Prime a much less comfortable to use when held in portrait mode as opposed to iPad 2 (but of course widescreen videos are much better on Prime as a result). But I can really see how the keyboard dock can enhance the Prime experience enough for me to never consider iPad 3, even if it comes out with HD screen and even better battery life.
I should also make additional note about the keyboard dock. I don't find the build of the keyboard dock to be as good as I hoped, it angles up really awkwardly on the Prime when screen is lifted, the back hinge is basically the thing it starts 'resting' on and differently from the rubber it rests on in front of the dock, the back rests on plastic knob-thingies, which have less grip. So on a less sturdy surface or when typing, the device is prone to move a lot more than you'd expect.
To sum things up, ASUS did a good job at everything except quality control and body design for GPS. If it had 3G, better WiFi and functioning GPS I would easily grade it the best tablet ever, but right now I don't see iPad 2 being actually dethroned before the end of this year where Google's rumoured tablet and possibly another Transformer can really kick things up a notch.
2012 is the year of 4G and HD screens on tablets, but I must say I did not really think Prime needs a HD screen. It is not because it would not look more beautiful - it would and I can easily see pixels when reading the web on Prime - but I just think that Android market won't catch up to HD apps before 2013. Today most apps look stretched and the apps that don't, do not seem to need HD anyway.
But yes, a wonderful device, just make sure to not throw away the box and other items so you can quickly refund, since chance has it that it might come with a hardware flaw or two.
Nice well written review.
Got it exchanged and keyboard works now! By the way, those wishing to buy it in Estonia, it seems to be sold downtown in both Euronics and Klick stores. Can't be bought online yet and seems to be only the champagne gold 32gb model.
Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
I'm with you with the Champagne Gold color.
The photos online do not give justice to the Champagne Gold color as it is absolutely beautiful in real life.
The Gold hue does not overpower the Aluminum Color and has a rather subtle hint to it.
Excellent review. A good model for all to follow!
My "purplish" grey one is to arrive tomorrow....wish I could have ordered the champagne colour. I'll probably end up putting a skinomi skin on the back as I'm not really into the purple tones...plus, I heard the aluminum scratches easily.
i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
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I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
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can you post some pics?
Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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ASUS is selling 32GB Champagne Gold TF201's in Estonia, it's the EU version (tablet and dock in one). And it is also localized, with local adapter and US keyboard that has russian letters in the corner (we also have a large number of russians living here).
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+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
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It seems that ASUS did not just do a UK launch, it was an EU launch and a lot of tablets are being sold in various countries, often without advertisements. Here we have Champagne Gold one, sold 2-in-1, dock and tablet. I haven't seen Amethyst Grey being sold anywhere here (and we seem to have two chains selling TF201's without ads at the moment).
It just shows how little this tablet is really known outside these forums and tech world. People don't know about it. Stores don't even know that they have the hottest Android tablet on their shelves.
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Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
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Well, true, but it is worth a comparison simply because you would not own a Prime and an iPad 2 together, they overlap in functionality. I will still recommend iPad 2 to anyone who is not a tech person as I believe that today it is a better device for content consumption and don't believe Android will catch up in app-market with HD apps and experience at least until 2013.
I am really neutral in that opinion here, I own an Android 4.0 phone and tablet now, I love Android. But today iPad 2 is a better tablet for an average person even if you don't consider GPS, WiFi quality or 3G existence important.
I would not buy Android for my grandparents, if I had to choose I would buy them iPad 2.
But anyways, I love it. Those of us who know tech and prefer Android, this is a brilliant device if your device does not have issues resulted from bad quality control.
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Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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Thank you for the correction.
I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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Think you might struggle to use this as a laptop replacement - depending on what you use your laptop for.
Yes, it's called tethering - setting your phone up as a wifi hotspot then connecting your tablet to it. No bluetooth needed. However, some Prime users report issues with this since the ICS update.
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I've had the chance to use the keyboard dock for a while, as well as test out a variety of apps. Some apps are much better in HD on a tablet, this surprised me quite a bit. For example IMDB app is really good on tablet and gMail (and really, all Google apps) is very high quality.
Apps run quickly and without problems. I also haven't noticed any problems with the tablet I got for exchange, no dead pixels. There's faint backlight bleed near one corner but I can not notice it while using a tablet unless brightness setting is too high and screen itself full of black colors.
As for the keyboard. I really love that it is Android focused keyboard. The keys make sense and are intuitive. It really is the first time I've felt comfortable with a keyboard that is similar to old school Windows keyboards, while never making me feel like it is one of those 'modified' PC keyboards. The top row buttons are all very useful, there are no bloated keys.
At first I wished there was 'recent apps' key, but there isn't. Alt+Tab does exist, but since there is no Alt key on the left hand side of the keyboard, you have to use two hands for it (I always Alt+Tab with left hand on my PC). So that's a bit annoying.
Keyboard itself is comfortable to write on if you've used smaller netbooks before. It takes a short time getting used to since at first you expect keys to be further apart, but adjustment does not take long. Feel of the keys is really good and they are well built, I like that spacebar, while long, goes down on both sides if you only press on one side. While it seems simple and does not look as expensive as Macbook Air keyboard, it feels really well built.
The dock also protects the tablet really well. The keys are not elevated on the dock, so they don't touch or get close to tablet screen and leave marks of any kind on the screen in the long run (this happened with my nice Compaq netbook 311C that had a beautiful LED screen that just looked worn thanks to keyboard after a while). Dock is also separated from the tablet with little rubber knobs
The touchpad is basically pointless, I am not sure why it is even needed, but I like that it is there in case I ever would need it. Using screen touch is simply faster, since apps are usually built keeping that in mind. Touchpad is just slower in comparison. I did however find it helpful when writing a lot of text and needing to correct something. It is also great that you can turn the touchpad off so it doesn't activate by accident while you are typing.
Certain apps are also less-keyboard friendly. While typing is supported all around, certain apps are less friendly when it comes to common usability features such as tab key changing selected input field (like going from username to password). You cannot really use the tablet without resorting to touching the screen every now and then, but I must admit that it is better than I originally expected. I actually like having the keyboard on, since on-screen keyboard is really something I don't like to resort to.
I did notice that capacitive pens are not very good on Transformer Prime screen. I have cleaned the screen very well, but capacitive pens are not sensed unless brushing them more noticably against the screen. The pen is a high quality one originally built for iPad 2 by Bamboo, worlds leading company when it comes to graphic tablets. I guess the non-air-pad type capacitive pens would work better though.
For some other things that are not as perfect as they could be, there is a very tiny amount of lag in the system at times when using the keyboard. It is certainly not as responsive as a keyboard should be if you, say, played competitive first person shooter games. But it doesn't really annoy and some apps are better than others at it. This will possibly improve even further with newer Android or firmware updates since it is not a hardware issue at all.
One thing I can tell you though is that TF201 makes quite an impression. I've shown it to two friends and the dock really makes the tablet. It takes away one of the most uncomfortable things about tablets - typing on that awkward screen - as well as offers natural protection without needing a case to protect the screen. Two of my friends who played with it were very impressed. If there's an Android device to wow people who only really know about iPad, it is not good to show the tablet without the dock - since it is just too similar - but the dock helps it really set it apart.
vitalero said:
I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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When using it as a replacement for a netbook, the device works really well. But one has to keep in mind that it is a content-consumption device. You can draw sketches here or write essays, but it is really something that you should consider as a replacement for netbook if you mostly watch movies or surf the internet on your netbook. You are still faster with a netbook if you need to do more intensive work.
But pay attention that I said 'netbook', not laptop. Laptop is still a better device, if you don't have a desktop PC, then I suggest keeping laptop around, since at times it is simply needed to 'create' more than consume. You cannot develop on Android, really edit videos or photoshop pictures or do extensive office work.
When it comes to sharing the internet then yes, I have an unlimited data plan on my phone so I can easily tether my 3G connection. It is not as fast as tablet itself having a 3G, but it is still quite good. I don't stream videos on my tablet usually or if I do, I have a better WiFi connection somewhere. For on-the-go use, it works really well.
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
Why was this thread moved to 'accessories'?
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
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Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
Thanks
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Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
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In the keyboard dock picture he attached you can see the actual Russian phonetic layout on the buttons, so it's not exactly the US dock, but like a US dock with Russian phonetic layout added to the buttons.
I had a Vipertek--same as the RooCase, Blurex, Poetic slim fit cases--for my old Samsung GT10.1, and I really liked the way I could balance it on one of my thighs.
How well does the laptop combo work when balancing on one thigh? And in your lap?
Extremely well. One of the things I like about it is that it can be used in the lap, in bed, on top of covers, without worrying about heat or blocking air vents.
I do quite a bit of writing on mine this way and it works great. Oh, and I'll add: it's not so much "balancing," as it is "just setting it there." It's not as if I have to consciously manage it as I do my Prime when it's just in its cover.
Battery life with the dock was amazing.
Hate rain on the parade, but overall I did not like the dock in use.
I found the keys small,
and in Canada we are forced to take a unusual bilingual layout
that resulted in a number of typing errors.
My biggest issue was when in use,
the screen/dock connector extends below the bottom of the dock,
putting the weight all in one small area instead of distributing it across the base.
I found it more uncomfortable to use in my lap
than my 14" HP laptop that weights much more.
I decided to stick with the HP laptop for when a KB is needed,
and use the Prime only as tablet.
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I found it more uncomfortable to use in my lap
than my 14" HP laptop that weights much more.
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Thus demonstrating how such things are HIGHLY subjective. I have an Envy 14, and I have to say, I'd much rather type on the Prime+dock on my lap than the Envy. The notebook gets hotter and despite any weight distribution considerations is just heavier. I also feel like I'm actively managing the HP more than the Prime+dock. The keyboard is smaller, sure, but I adjust pretty quickly.
Not to say it's possible to be "wrong" here, but rather to say perhaps it's not best to ask others for their opinions on this but rather get the dock from somewhere you can return it and give it a try yourself.
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Extremely well. One of the things I like about it is that it can be used in the lap, in bed, on top of covers, without worrying about heat or blocking air vents.
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This is probably the single biggest bother I have with using my laptop. I can under no circumstances impede air flow, or my laptop goes nuclear. One of the things I love about a tablet.
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My biggest issue was when in use,
the screen/dock connector extends below the bottom of the dock,
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This is what was going through my mind when I asked the question. Thank you for your reply.
I would still like to hear others' opinions as well. Thanks in advance.
I'll add that the Prime+dock hasn't replaced my Envy. I still pull out the damn laptop tray (which I hate) on occasion depending on what kind of work I have to do. But for straight draft writing, especially any impromptu writing, I like being able to slap the Prime on the dock, stick it on my lap, and start writing, without worrying about pulling out the tray, arranging it, sitting in the right position, etc.
And it's the little things that matter sometimes, right?
I love my HP and it's just a AMD A6 as well,
it runs cool and completely silent most of the time,
only down size is the shorter battery life but plugs are near by if needed.
No doubt, the ASUS transformer design of a removable tablet screen is the future for many portable devices.
Forget ultrabooks, Win8 dockable tablets will be the next big thing IMO
Just this early Android iteration with the extending screen base
and smaller keyboard didn't quite fit right here.
The Prime as a tablet is great.
Im currently a tf700 owner. No we have had our issues with the tf700 but for all intents purpose it has served me very well. The keyboard dock is clutch for class note taking and long emailing. Now hearing about the N10 got me excited because i am a huge nexus fan like many of you. However once the design the specs on the N10 came out...i was a little disappointed.
First is the design... I mean WTF seriously plastic again samsung? There is something about having an aluminum body that just make the tf700, ipad and other comparable tablets feel premium. Not to mention warranting a heftier price tag..
Second and MOST IMPORTANT is having no micro sd card slot. This is actually a HUGE issue for alot of people. Now i know alot of you will just say "oh just get the 64 gig versions and you should be fine" or " why do you need even more memory"... but the size is not the problem. The problem for most users is the inability to secure your files in case of a crash or malfunction. When using my tf700, my phone or any mobile device, i always back up all my notes, movies, music and any sensitive documents to the sd card i have mounted in case of a system failure. There isnt a single android device out there ( or any device for that matter) that is not susceptible to a malfunction or crash, including the nexus product ( remember the N7 debacle at the launch...ouch!). On top of the fact that i like to transfer my file easily from one platform to another (desktop to tablet and vice versa, phone to tablet and vice versa...) without the need for whipping out a transfer cable or internet access, it just seems pretty lazy on the part of google and samsung to not include the option. Losing this huge personal security feature alone really turned me off from wanting to purchase.
The last point that really got me disappointed was the screen. Looking at all the comparisons videos online of how the N10 stacks up to the tf700, ipad, Note and N7, most of the reviewers agree that they is very little if not novel difference in the screen in real time use. Most even go as far to say that the battery hit taken by the non significant difference in the screen resolution is a huge turn off for most users.
All in all i wanted to love the new N10 because i am a nexus fan at heart, but there is no way i could justify the purchase with the problems it is already presenting.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
Are you serious? Imagine every idiot creating a new thread because he's not buying one.
Mods please consolidate this cluttered crap.
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Im currently a tf700 owner. No we have had our issues with the tf700 but for all intents purpose it has served me very well. The keyboard dock is clutch for class note taking and long emailing. Now hearing about the N10 got me excited because i am a huge nexus fan like many of you. However once the design the specs on the N10 came out...i was a little disappointed.
First is the design... I mean WTF seriously plastic again samsung? There is something about having an aluminum body that just make the tf700, ipad and other comparable tablets feel premium. Not to mention warranting a heftier price tag..
Second and MOST IMPORTANT is having no micro sd card slot. This is actually a HUGE issue for alot of people. Now i know alot of you will just say "oh just get the 64 gig versions and you should be fine" or " why do you need even more memory"... but the size is not the problem. The problem for most users is the inability to secure your files in case of a crash or malfunction. When using my tf700, my phone or any mobile device, i always back up all my notes, movies, music and any sensitive documents to the sd card i have mounted in case of a system failure. There isnt a single android device out there ( or any device for that matter) that is not susceptible to a malfunction or crash, including the nexus product ( remember the N7 debacle at the launch...ouch!). On top of the fact that i like to transfer my file easily from one platform to another (desktop to tablet and vice versa, phone to tablet and vice versa...) without the need for whipping out a transfer cable or internet access, it just seems pretty lazy on the part of google and samsung to not include the option. Losing this huge personal security feature alone really turned me off from wanting to purchase.
The last point that really got me disappointed was the screen. Looking at all the comparisons videos online of how the N10 stacks up to the tf700, ipad, Note and N7, most of the reviewers agree that they is very little if not novel difference in the screen in real time use. Most even go as far to say that the battery hit taken by the non significant difference in the screen resolution is a huge turn off for most users.
All in all i wanted to love the new N10 because i am a nexus fan at heart, but there is no way i could justify the purchase with the problems it is already presenting.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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Good...one less person in queue ahead of me in the Play store.
I hear a lot of people reasoning with themselves out loud as to why they won't be buying a N10/iPad Mini/MS Surface. This must mean that the tablet wars of 12/12 has officially arrived. :laugh:
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Are you serious? Imagine every idiot creating a new thread because he's not buying one.
Mods please consolidate this cluttered crap.
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This was simply a comparison thread, no need for name calling... You have the right to your opinion, but you also have to be respectful on these boards, name calling is just as much reason to kick you from these boards...
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sunoryjim said:
Good...one less person in queue ahead of me in the Play store.
I hear a lot of people reasoning with themselves out loud as to why they won't be buying a N10/iPad Mini/MS Surface. This must mean that the tablet wars of 12/12 has officially arrived. :laugh:
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Lol i guess your right, though the surface does look enticing. We will have to see how its ecosystem plays out. I am always up for getting the latest and greatest. But it has to both lol. The n10 is definitely the latest, but missing that microsd really sets it back.
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The screen is not an issue. $399 for a screen like that plus the most powerful SOC around is a hook, not the deterrent. lol
I prefer plastic, the ipad 3 was too heavy and plastic is definitely not an ISSUE to anyone except the itards and the Samsung haters.
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Let me reiterate, a solid and light plastic construction with no creaks or wobbles even from the toughest abuse(Galaxy S3, Nexus 10) or temperature changes is not an issue.
An issue is like massive screen lift, catching on fire, digitizers sticking out from the shell, overheating etc. You know, things that barely ever happen to products that are made out of this "cheap" plastic Samsung uses. These issues tend to only happen to these "amazingly' solid aluminum or non cheap plastic that Asus uses. lol
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The screen is not an issue. $399 for a screen like that plus the most powerful SOC around is hook, not the deterrent. lol
I prefer plastic, the ipad 3 was too heavy and plastic is definitely not an ISSUE to anyone except the itards and the Samsung haters.
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Alright fair enough, again name calling and insulting is not tolerated on these boards. How about the sd card issue? And the battery drain issue from the screen resolution? Pretty sure thats a "serious issue" as well...
[EDIT:] Just an fyi, the ipad 3 and the N10 weight the same 1.44 pounds...just saying
pierrekid said:
Alright fair enough, again name calling and insulting is not tolerated on these boards. How about the sd card issue? And the battery drain issue from the screen resolution? Pretty sure thats a "serious issue" as well...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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Most reviews say that the battery life is pretty good. Sure they had to cram in a huge battery like the ipad needed to but that is perfectly fine since it is still light, plastic, and thin. They didn't need to make it fatter than the Note 10.1 like Apple had to make the ipad 3 fatter than the ipad 2. I think the benefits of the ppi in terms of text and marketing is worth the cost,
The micro SD card slot is a negative but I still wouldn't call it an issue. An issue should be used to describe something that is not working as intended by the manufacturer. The plastic construction and lack of micro SD is calculated. you might not agree with the design and design choices but they are not issues.
I say the name calling is slightly justified because the abuse of the word "issue" is a clear signal for a trolling party. In this case, I am guessing that you are not a fan of Samsung and like to troll them. Correct?
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Alright fair enough, again name calling and insulting is not tolerated on these boards. How about the sd card issue? And the battery drain issue from the screen resolution? Pretty sure thats a "serious issue" as well...
[EDIT:] Just an fyi, the ipad 3 and the N10 weight the same 1.44 pounds...just saying
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No they don't weight the same. I suggest you get your specifications from another website.
From reading the reviews, the battery drain doesn't seem too bad. We will never know for sure until we have some real world testing. Charging through micro usb will be a bit slower.
The sd card is sort of an issue, but I think a usb otg and flash drive/external hdd will suit me well. Also have the option of nas at home that you can download/stream from. No nexus devices have had sd cards so far so if that is really a deal breaker for people I guess it is what it is.
The n10 isn't perfect, but right now I see it as one of the best Android tablets on the market right now.
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Alright fair enough, again name calling and insulting is not tolerated on these boards. How about the sd card issue? And the battery drain issue from the screen resolution? Pretty sure thats a "serious issue" as well...
[EDIT:] Just an fyi, the ipad 3 and the N10 weight the same 1.44 pounds...just saying
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You should get the specs from google play store and apple official website:
ipad with retina: 662g
nexus 10: 603g
I used 'g' because google play store only shows 'g'
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Im currently a tf700 owner. No we have had our issues with the tf700 but for all intents purpose it has served me very well. The keyboard dock is clutch for class note taking and long emailing. Now hearing about the N10 got me excited because i am a huge nexus fan like many of you. However once the design the specs on the N10 came out...i was a little disappointed.
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Unfortunately, Google just doesn't want to target your use case. This latest iteration of the tablet UI shows that they are content with a tablet being a large phone. Since Google is primarily targeting media consumption it is not a big deal to waste a good bit of UI real estate on black bars, etc. Likewise, I don't think you'll see a Transformer-like keyboard dock because that is beyond what Google is targeting with the Nexus 10.
I personally don't agree with Google's approach. I want Android/Nexus 10 to be able to have multiple applications on the screen at once like the Windows 8 tablets and have a keyboard dock like Transformers. If I'm going to pay ~$500 for a tablet then it should be more than a phone with a larger screen.
First is the design... I mean WTF seriously plastic again samsung? There is something about having an aluminum body that just make the tf700, ipad and other comparable tablets feel premium. Not to mention warranting a heftier price tag..
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I disagree here. Plastic != always bad. I prefer a soft coated hard plastic to a metal back any day. That's assuming the plastic isn't cheap flexible junk. The metal on the Transformers doesn't really add any real protection, it scratches way too easily, and its generally heavier. In other words, if the plastic is done well then it can be better than a metal backing.
From what I've seen most people enjoy the Nexus 7's plastic and from early reviews people seem to like the Nexus 10's as well.
Second and MOST IMPORTANT is having no micro sd card slot. This is actually a HUGE issue for alot of people. Now i know alot of you will just say "oh just get the 64 gig versions and you should be fine" or " why do you need even more memory"... but the size is not the problem. The problem for most users is the inability to secure your files in case of a crash or malfunction. When using my tf700, my phone or any mobile device, i always back up all my notes, movies, music and any sensitive documents to the sd card i have mounted in case of a system failure. There isnt a single android device out there ( or any device for that matter) that is not susceptible to a malfunction or crash, including the nexus product ( remember the N7 debacle at the launch...ouch!). On top of the fact that i like to transfer my file easily from one platform to another (desktop to tablet and vice versa, phone to tablet and vice versa...) without the need for whipping out a transfer cable or internet access, it just seems pretty lazy on the part of google and samsung to not include the option. Losing this huge personal security feature alone really turned me off from wanting to purchase.
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I agree here, but again, Google simply isn't targeting your use case. In their eyes, the Nexus 10 is a dumb device that acts as a portal to media and if you do view or edit a document then it will be in the cloud.
The last point that really got me disappointed was the screen. Looking at all the comparisons videos online of how the N10 stacks up to the tf700, ipad, Note and N7, most of the reviewers agree that they is very little if not novel difference in the screen in real time use. Most even go as far to say that the battery hit taken by the non significant difference in the screen resolution is a huge turn off for most users.
All in all i wanted to love the new N10 because i am a nexus fan at heart, but there is no way i could justify the purchase with the problems it is already presenting.
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From what I've seen the screen looks to be pretty great. I'm not sure why you think it would be that much better than the TF700's which already has one of the best screens available. Compared to the TF101 and most other previous Android tablets the Nexus 10 will look phenomenal.
I'm also not sure why you think the Nexus 10's screen will be such a large battery drain compared to the TF700. In reality, we have no idea which screen will be more power hungry. Yes, the Nexus 10 has more pixels than the TF700 but pushing a few extra pixels is nothing compared to backlight power drain. While one could argue that the Nexus 10 having more pixels than the TF700 will require more computational resources. However, the GPU and CPU in the Nexus 10 should be slightly more efficient than Tegra 3 making it mostly a wash. In terms of the backlights, I have no idea which requires more power and I don't think the reviewers do either.
Let's get technical. Definition class!
issues
1an important topic or problem for debate or discussion: the issue of racism raising awareness of environmental issues
(issues) personal problems or difficulties: emotions and intimacy issues that were largely dealt with through alcohol I like him, though I have some issues with the guy
(issues) problems or difficulties, especially with a service or facility: a small number of users are experiencing connectivity issues
Does a plastic construction really fall under a problem? No. More like a solution to a lighter and more heat resistant product. It would be an issue if the construction affected durability or how well the product operates but I highly doubt that.
Is the lack of a micro SD card an issue? I might give him that one if I was really feeling generous but it's a tough sell. Maybe in the right context. If I had to transfer 16.5 gb of files to another system and the Nexus 10 was designed for that specific task then that would be an issue because it wasn't designed with enough memory to accomplish that specific task. However, I wouldn't call the lack of a micro SD card slot an issue or a problem because it was designed that way and manufactured to be that way, it is not a defect,
An issue would be closer to a problem or a defect rather than something that was just was not included on purpose.
Before this becomes even more of a flamefest, I am going to close it.
@pierrekid, I am happy that you are staying with your current tablet and wish you all the best. It is too bad that the N10 specs don't fit your ideal tablet thoughts. Good luck in your future and if you do decide to get an N10, you know where we are.
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