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Good morning everyone.
I have been surfing this site for quite some time, but have just received my Vibrant S and am now in a position to post a question.
I am coming from the WinMo 5.0 world and android is very new to me, but I am enjoying the new phone.
I do not yet have the phone rooted and am hesitating ... mainly because I don't know all the features it has yet but also because I don't want to get into anything I don't know yet how to get out of. Having spent enough on this phone, I don't want to break anything just yet. This forum seems to have some very helpful people though, so I hope I can trust you all when you finally talk me into rooting. I barely got on the Market yesterday and found a tool 'SGS Tools' which has some info in the description which I think I can really use, but I need to root. So go ahead and start talking me into rooting.
Anyway, to my question:
The movie 'Avatar' comes on a 2Gig micro SD card and I have an 8Gig HCSD card. So I copied the directory 'Movie' and its contents to my C: drive, unmounted the 2Gig, removed it, and put in the 8Gig. The phone recognized it and everything went fine when I turned the phone on. So I moved the directory 'Movie' and its contents to the 8Gig card and after all was said and done, when I try to open the movie file 'Avatar.dcf' using either the shortcut or the media player, I get the error: This video can not be played.
Is there a hidden file I may have missed? Can you not create a copy? Would the DRM get involved at this point?
I am concerned if I move the file from the 2Gig card to the 8Gig card, and I get the same error, then I've also lost the movie.
Your suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks.
Here's another take on it.
I powered my phone on this morning just before posting, and found the phone was not recognizing the SDHC card. It was in effect, unmounted. I pulled it out and back in and it then asked if I wanted to format the disk, so I did. I need to pull the original dcf file off the 2gig disk and try this move again, but in the mean time I've found this among a lot of complaints regarding android recognizing SDHC cards.
[edit] Seems I can't post outside links yet. Here's an address you'll have to manually put in your address bar if you wish to read this article.
< ... ://humanslate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=14 >
In there it mentions, "SDHC cards will not work in devices designed to the older SD 1.x specification".
So, another question at the moment is this:
Has android (I'm running JI6, eclair 2.1) been developed for the original 1.x cards? Has anyone bought a new android phone and had an SDHC card in it? My 2gig card is of the old 1.x specification.
Perhaps I need to repost on the developer page? I figured the movie was part of an app, so it would only seem reasonable to post here.
Hangman_ said:
Good morning everyone.
I have been surfing this site for quite some time, but have just received my Vibrant S and am now in a position to post a question.
I am coming from the WinMo 5.0 world and android is very new to me, but I am enjoying the new phone.
I do not yet have the phone rooted and am hesitating ... mainly because I don't know all the features it has yet but also because I don't want to get into anything I don't know yet how to get out of. Having spent enough on this phone, I don't want to break anything just yet. This forum seems to have some very helpful people though, so I hope I can trust you all when you finally talk me into rooting. I barely got on the Market yesterday and found a tool 'SGS Tools' which has some info in the description which I think I can really use, but I need to root. So go ahead and start talking me into rooting.
Anyway, to my question:
The movie 'Avatar' comes on a 2Gig micro SD card and I have an 8Gig HCSD card. So I copied the directory 'Movie' and its contents to my C: drive, unmounted the 2Gig, removed it, and put in the 8Gig. The phone recognized it and everything went fine when I turned the phone on. So I moved the directory 'Movie' and its contents to the 8Gig card and after all was said and done, when I try to open the movie file 'Avatar.dcf' using either the shortcut or the media player, I get the error: This video can not be played.
Is there a hidden file I may have missed? Can you not create a copy? Would the DRM get involved at this point?
I am concerned if I move the file from the 2Gig card to the 8Gig card, and I get the same error, then I've also lost the movie.
Your suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks.
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That should be all you have to do to get the movie to play. I would only recommend that you double check to make sure you copied the Movie folder to your external SD card and not the internal card.
The Vibrant can use SDHC cards (use 8gb class 6 here) and I know many others use 16 and 32 gb ones.
Convert the file to simple mp3 universal coding that any video app including the stock can read. Should be 720p. Create a video folder if one does not exist. You know all this sounds like. Should play fine. Too bad you can't use the lame short cut this way. Then again I never used it anyway.
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I replaced avatar this way. Since have now for the extended version instead.
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Thank you for the quick reply.
Flak_Munky said:
That should be all you have to do to get the movie to play ...
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What do you mean by 'That'? Do you mean to move or does a copy suffice?
A little earlier after posting here, I put the 2gig back in and copied the DCF file to the C: drive again. Then after replacing the 2gig with the 8gig in the phone, I moved the 'Movie' directory and files into it. Now the media player doesn't even recognize the file. Although when I went to the SD card and looked at the details of the DCF file, it said the rights were expired. Can I assume it is because I copied it?
mr. orange303 said:
Convert the file to simple mp3 universal coding that any video app including the stock can read. Should be 720p.
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What program did you use to make the conversion? I have two converters on my laptop I really like, but I don't know that they will even recognize a DCF file.
Thank you for your assistance.
And thank you Mr Moderator for moving this to its correct forum location.
Hangman_ said:
What do you mean by 'That'? Do you mean to move or does a copy suffice?
A little earlier after posting here, I put the 2gig back in and copied the DCF file to the C: drive again. Then after replacing the 2gig with the 8gig in the phone, I moved the 'Movie' directory and files into it. Now the media player doesn't even recognize the file. Although when I went to the SD card and looked at the details of the DCF file, it said the rights were expired. Can I assume it is because I copied it?
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I was referring to either a move or copy. Both should work without a problem. I've done both and it played each time.
Never seen the rights were expired before. Not sure atm.
Thanks Flak for the clarification.
I am thinking I have larger issues here now (hence the edit to the title).
Over the New year, I have been working on word documents and PDFs and saving them to the external SD card on the phone. I have Windows 7_64. I was synced in with my phone using 'media' to transfer files as Kies doesn't work. After disconnecting the phone and verifying I can read both the word docs and the PDF's, I turned the phone off for the night. The next morning when I turned the phone on, I recieved a message that the external SD card was corrupted. I had to do a format to get the card back. After copying the docs and PDF's to the SDHC again, making a few phone calls, and installing a couple apps from the market to the internal memory, I rebooted the phone (turned off then back on), I received an error message saying the external SD card had been damaged. I had to do a format on the card again to get it back.
All I can say at the moment is I'm glad I didn't move the Avatar.dcf file to the SDHC card, but I don't understand what is happening with the SD functionality. This is becoming completely untrustworthy as I can't use the SD card for anything in fear of it getting corrupted or damaged. Which means I can't backup anything to the SD card either.
[Q] I have read mention of drivers for Windows 7_64, but have not yet searched them out. Could the default connection drivers that Windows 7 loads when you first connect your phone be an issue?
[Q] I have also read in several places now that the USB debugging should be checked. Now most all of these posts are for rooting and reinstalling ROM's and such, but my question is this; Should I have the USB debugging on when I am simply connecting to the PC to transfer files? It seems I am losing my SDHC card only after I have connected to the PC using the USB cable.
Do you have any thoughts or suggestions I can try? I'm too new to android to think of possible solutions to these little quirks, or where to look or what to ask.
Thanks.
One reason I am hesitant to put any Windows 7_64 bit drivers is because of the following comments:
"cant get my cpu to recognize my phone after installing drivers... im on windows 7 64 bit any ideas??"
"have the same problem. i'm on 7, 32bit"
"did you enable USB debugging?"
"yes of course. first thing I did after I rooted"
These are from <http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728929>
Now again, my phone is not yet rooted. For the purpose at hand, I can't see the need to root. If my SDHC card is getting corrupted during connection, then rooting the phone is not going to solve the problem.
So my question above still stands; should the USB debugging be on (checked) when I simply connect to the PC to transfer files?
But I don't know where to look now or what to do. I have spent an entire day looking over the posts and have found virtually nothing to assist me with this little quirk.
Any suggestion would be helpful at this point.
Thanks.
So, I've learned something new today and would like your confirmation if I am correct in my assessment or not.
When you plug the phone into the Windows desktop machine, you get a prompt on the phone asking if you want to connect to Kies, Media Player, or Mass Storage.
When I select Media player, I have immediate access to the phone and SD card. There is nothing more to do with either the phone or the PC is this correct ?
The reason I ask is that if I connect to Mass Storage, I then have to go to the pulldown whatchamacallit on the phone and select USB connect. It then prompts me to "Mount" the phone (SD card) so I can access it.
I think this is why my SD card became corrupted and damaged. I didn't know I had to go and "Mount" the thing before I could use it.
BUT, why doesn't it ask me to "Mount" it when I select Media Player for my connection?
Thank you for your assistance and expertise.
Still waiting for confirmation
I'm still waiting for some definitive answer(s) and confirmations to these questions of mine if anyone has the knowledge.
Thank you.
Tired of that small 5gb usb storage? Here is my hack to swap your external SD card with the USB storage!
This is usefull especially if you use GPS apps that download maps or games that download big data files! I got the idea and studied several hacks for the galaxy 1900 so partial credit goes to whoever made those hacks.
DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
So basically start by going to /system/etc using root explorer or similar (yes, you need root). Once there backup the vold.fstab file to somewhere ON ROOT (I put it in /data/app/)! This is important so you can access it if you need to restore it (also make sure root explorer is installed on device memory, not SD card). Now take my modified vold.fstab and replace the original in /system/etc, then change the permissions to rw-r--r-- (long click the file, then select permissions) . If all goes right after you reboot your device, USB storage should now be your SD card and vise versa! Be aware any apps on your USB storage will now have to be transfered using a PC, move the .android_secure folder to your SD card. Hope it works!
EDIT: here is a modified version for the yp-g70, all credit goes to rjsmith2007 for making and testing this!
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
tcat007 said:
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
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I am referring to when you download maps with an app like sygic;
it saves it to the /sdcard/ directory instead of the /sdcard/external_ed/. Also gameloft games do the same and can use up your room pretty fast. I find this pretty useful myself, since I have a 32gb sd card, but just wanted to post it so if anyone does ever need it, it's here for them.
iJimaniac said:
DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
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I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
rjsmith2007 said:
I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
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Thank you! I appreciate it! I post it on the original post and give you the credit.
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
rjsmith2007 said:
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
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glad I could help!
Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
freshpintreez said:
Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
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Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
Looks about right. Task Manger has them labeled like you list them, except there is a "Personal data" partition. It's 133mb on my 5.0. Maybe email and contacts?
I'm guess apps get installed on "System Storage", plenty of room there without having to move stuff to USB or Ext. I pretty much just use my ext card for media and pictures.
For some reason this caused issues with my Market connecting to the internet, any idea why? Anyone else experience issues with this modification?
Hmm, no no one has mentioned that problem, and I have been using this for months - no problem. Sorry if it did that, have you tried restoring the original? Also, an update to the instructions is to change the permissions to rw-r-r. I didn't notice anything wrong without changing the permissions, but you never know.
jimcpl said:
Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
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Pretty close.
https://github.com/Entropy512/initramfs_yp-g70/blob/master/misc/recovery.fstab is the Player 5.0 partition table.
As you can see, nearly everything is on partitions of mmcblk0 - on the Player 5.0, this is eMMC (embedded MMC) storage. The total size of mmcblk0 is 8GB
The partitions here include (but are not limited to):
p10 - EFS - this contains device-specific config data, on phones that includes IMEI, on our device it's probably Bluetooth and WiFi MAC addresses
p11 - Kernel
p12 - Recovery (on some devices, recovery is a separate kernel partition - Samsungs have this partition set aside even though most of their devices don't actually use it. You can put anything you want on p12 and it won't do anything usually. For us, recovery is part of the kernel initramfs on p11)
p13 - /system - This is where the system firmware, often called the "ROM" sits. A number of people are trying to fight the "ROM" terminology, since it's not really true - flash isn't read-only, thus it isn't the "ROM" any more
p14 - In the linked file it's /datadata, but the device actually mounts it as /dbdata - various SQL databases for apps live here
p15 - /cache - a cache partition separate from data. Files stored here are intended to be safely wipable/deletable
p16 - /data - Various user data. Your apps live here unless you've moved them to SD. Most system settings are here too. ICS merges this partition with the internal SD so they are one and the same
p17 - /emmc in recovery and, if someone ever has the time to port it, CM7, /sdcard in Samsung factory firmwares. This is the "internal SD card".
There are a few other partitions that are not touched by recovery that exist, such as the LFS partition and the bootloader partitions. These are all small.
mmcblk1 is the external SD. Usually only one partition, which is /sdcard in recovery/CM7 and /sdcard/external_sd in Samsung factory firmwares
On the 4.0, I believe it uses Samsung's older NAND flash technology and not eMMC, so the partitions on internal storage appear as stlN/bmlN
i think i did something disaster...
i am using Samsung Galaxy W. I did follow your above instruction. The problem is after restarting my phone, I go to setting>storage and it shows total space and available space for SD card and USB storage is UNAVAILABLE. What is available is only Device Memorry which is 1.03GB.
Thinking that your vold.fstab is not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy W, I replace it with the original vold.fstab that I backed up earlier. However this does not solve the problem.
Then what I did is I tried to reset the phone to its original factory setting (Setting>Privacy>Factory Data Reset..),. Unfortunately the same problem still persist. And i think this is silly and catastrophic step since i loss my original vold.fstab which is stored in the internal memory.
Any of you can help me?
Many thanks to all of you
Well, did you change the permissions on your backup back to rw-r--r--? And yes, this mod should only be used for the device intended for. Are you sure that you replaced the modified vold.fstab with the original one? Did it give you an warning about overriding (it should have)? Are you sure you used your backup and not accidentally mine? What program did you use to copy?
Hmm stupid question, but how do you replace the existing file? I am using root explorer an it says it is read-only when I try to paste it in there.
Edit... Never mind... I didn't have it mounted correctly.
I have tried this multiple times, but every time I reboot it says "USB storage damaged, may need reformatting." So I press reformat, and it's done in like 1 sec and the problem still persists.
Any ideas?
Hmm, odd. I know you have the same version player as me, are you running 2.3.5 or 2.3.6, maybe that could affect it? Did you try before you did a lot of modifications to your device? What type of SD card you got, I use a 32gb class sandisk. I don't think that would matter, but you never know. I recall getting that error when I was working on the mod, but I got it fixed before I released it. Weird.
Oh yeah, what do you have your sd card formatted as? I use FAT32, not sure if that could affect it. May want to try reformatting the card on a PC, then try.
I have a 8gb kingston micro sd card, and I'm running 2.3.5. I had this problem a long time ago too when I was still on stock. Maybe it's my sd card. I will reformat it and try again, and if it doesn't work I will try a different sd card.
I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
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I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
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Not sure about the new Google Play app but the older one had no way to choose sdcard2 to store/use files. If they have not built this feature into the app yet than you may have to use a workaround such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
As for just your standard media files (music, videos, pictures) you would like to open via default apps on your tablet, just drag and drop from internal to external via USB or file manager. Doesn't really matter where you put them as long as you can find them. Just create a directory structure that makes sense to you.
RonD45 said:
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
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If you just use the standard Fat32 format on the PC the card should work just fine.
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
RonD45 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
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Yep. Can't move that data. The app won't find it unless you can try the link I sent you for that program that re-routes the paths but you will need root to use it.
RonD45 said:
I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
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Keeping data for apps on sdcard2 is going to cause you nothing but trouble. If that card is unmounted you may end up having to re-install all those apps for them to work. As far as I know there is not a rom that will allow this to happen. Only thing I can suggest is to get all the media files you can onto your ext. sdcard to free up some space or start using a cloud service.
If you want to root your Flyer use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709 Make sure you have a qualifying hboot version otherwise you have to do some extra prep work first.
I have the same problem. I'm using a 64gb card and the tablet will not store anything on it. Mine is labeled sd-ext. It act like it needs a2sd installed to work. But that's not possible with out root.
Lame
I mostly use my SD2 card for movies. I'm not really seeing anything that uses it other than the camera, I think (there's a DCIM folder there).
I know on most other (2-sd card) android devices, you can actually switch which sd card is 1 and which is 2 by editing the vold on the device. I am not sure if this works on the flyer, and have no real reason to try this myself, but if some brave soul is willing to test it out, I can provide instructions.
PS: if anyone has already tried this, and found it lacking, please let us know before I suggest that someone do something stupid
Sorry, Have been away for a while. I would be interested in the instructions to edit the vold. Could you send me a link to instructions or the instructions. Has anyone else tried the vold change?
Thanks for the reply.
Hey folks,
first of all, I'm sorry if my following problem has already been discussed elsewhere in this forum, but I wasn't able to locate a thread or post that fits my exact issue as I don't want to mess up another thread with this.
So here is my problem:
I've recentally updated the resurrection remix rom from v1.9.1 to v2.1 on my SGS2. My phone boots up normally and works like a charm. But then I mentioned that both of my music-apps (poweramp and stock-player) are showing every song twice, as there would be file duplicates. So I checked the content of my external sdcard (where I put my music on) with both the stock-file-explorer and ES file explorer and found out, that my external sdcard wasn't mounted in /mnt/sdcard anymore but in /mnt/emmc and when I clicked on the sdcard-icon in the stock-app it only showed me my internal storage. With ES file explorer I can't access my external sdcard at all. I already plugged the sdcard out of the device, rebooted, plugged it back in and rebooted again. But nothing has changed. Further I've taken a look with MyPhoneExplorer and figured out, that the folder /mnt/sdcard doesn't exist anymore (creating it by myself failed) while /mnt/emmc was still there. Long story short, here are the facts:
/mnt/sdcard --> doesn't exist anymore
/mnt/emmc --> shows the content of external sdcard
sdcard-icon in stock-file-explorer --> shows internal storage
ES file explorer --> can't access sdcard at all (maybe I'm too stupid to use it)
music-apps --> show all the files doubled
Please help me, what can I do to get my external sdcard back at /mnt/sdcard and the music-apps to show every file only once?
let's just talk about the mount points first:
on stock roms, the internal sd card is mounted as /sdcard/ and the external sd card is /sdcard/external_sd/
on aosp roms the internal sd card _should_ be mounted as /sdcard/ as well and the external sd _should_ be mounted as /emmc/ (external multi media card).
in recent cm9 builds, suddenly those mount points were reversed, which does not make much sense in my opinion.
with the jump from ressurection 1.9 to 2.1 you might have just hit that switch. have you performed a full wipe before and/or after flashing the new rom? maybe that'll do the trick
on aosp roms the internal sd card _should_ be mounted as /sdcard/ as well and the external sd _should_ be mounted as /emmc/ (external multi media card).
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Actually that's the case. But what is mnt-directory good for then, if there already are folder providing the content of internal storage and external sdcards? and just btw. wikipedia says that emmc stands for embedded multimedia card and this was invented to be used as an internal storage, that's confusing me.
have you performed a full wipe before and/or after flashing the new rom?
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I followed the installation guide very strictly and performed the wiping and factory resetting before and after the flashing as instructed.
But if the files are where they should be, why is my music indexed twice no matter what I do?
ps: I managed to access my external sdcard with ES file explorer after doing an analyse of the sdcard through the manager-option of ES file explorer.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a solution for the problem, beside waiting for the next version of the rom. But to those of you who may face the same or a similar problem, here's a little workaround:
In poweramp you can define the folders to scan, so just allow it to scan only /emmc/ and the doubled files will disappear. Unfortunately this is not possible for the stock-player. Maybe this is helpful.
i never bothered to look up emmc and just assumed the "e" stood for external.
if it stands for embedded it would actually make sense to switch the mount points.
the fact that one device can be accessed using several paths, e.g. /sdcard/ and /mnt/sdcard/ is a linux thing. same thing is present on pcs, servers and embedded systems (video game console, set top boxes, mediaplayers...). the mount point /sdcard/ is for convenience.
the "picking up files twice" issue you have with your music probably comes from some mount problem. but here's an idea:
in any music player, find a song that is present twice in a row, and look at its details. you should be able to find the full filename including the folder structure. then you will know exactly, what causes the duplicates. it might be that your card is mounted in some other folder as well.
other than that, as you said, it might be best to wait for the next rom revision, or get your post count up and post in the development thread directly, where they can probably help you. if that is a general bug of the rom, i guess you are not the first to realize it and people should be working on it as it sounds really annoying.
Regarding Android Jelly Bean version and my Verizon S4 (sch-i545)...
I know that the native folder location for ringtones, alerts, and notifications is at /system/media/audio
But, where can I create a folder on the sdcard (or ext_sdcard) to add my own ringtones?
I've created and moved mp3's into the following folder structures, rebooted and still don't see them when I try to add new ringtones:
\sdcard\media\audio\ringtones
\sdcard\media\ringtones
\sdcard\ringtones
None of the 3 above folder structures work. Anyone have an idea or do I have to move mp3 files into the /system location?
The stock ringtones are in /system/media/audio/ringtones ... I've been putting my files there but you need root explorer
\mnt\extSdCard\Alarms
\mnt\extSdCard\Notifications
\mnt\extSdCard\Ringtones
Those are 3 folders that work off of the external SD Card. Obviously if you're just looking for a place for a ringtone and don't care about alarms or notifications then just disregard the first 2.
I prefer the external SD Card so that my custom sounds can be carried over between ROM installations without a backup.
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\mnt\extSdCard\Alarms
\mnt\extSdCard\Notifications
\mnt\extSdCard\Ringtones
Those are 3 folders that work off of the external SD Card. Obviously if you're just looking for a place for a ringtone and don't care about alarms or notifications then just disregard the first 2.
I prefer the external SD Card so that my custom sounds can be carried over between ROM installations without a backup.
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So I discovered what you responded above at the same time.
My problem was that I kept looking at the extSdCard as an external SD card. Therefore I was trying everything at the \mnt\sdcard level
When I finally stumbled onto the fact that if I put the files in the respective folders on the folder structure you listed above, then it works.
Again, my confusion is that I thought everthing needed to be placed at the root of scard.
Seems weird to me but I think the S4 looks at the external SD card as "sd card"
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So I discovered what you responded above at the same time.
My problem was that I kept looking at the extSdCard as an external SD card. Therefore I was trying everything at the \mnt\sdcard level
When I finally stumbled onto the fact that if I put the files in the respective folders on the folder structure you listed above, then it works.
Again, my confusion is that I thought everthing needed to be placed at the root of scard.
Seems weird to me but I think the S4 looks at the external SD card as "sd card"
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I think that TW on the S4 does something funky with what it calls sdcard where it's actually an emulated partition rather than a true file path like on other phones or variations of Android. Whenever you pull up default storage locations of app data and the like, it always shows up as something like: /storage/emulated/0...
For me, extSdCard is definitely my 64GB SD card that I put in myself. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can take it from here. This is my first Android phone from Samsung, and by extension my first experience with TW.
I noticed the same thing (storage/emulated/0/ ) confused the crap out of me at first. I would download files and had no idea where they ended up.
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I think that TW on the S4 does something funky with what it calls sdcard where it's actually an emulated partition rather than a true file path like on other phones or variations of Android. Whenever you pull up default storage locations of app data and the like, it always shows up as something like: /storage/emulated/0...
For me, extSdCard is definitely my 64GB SD card that I put in myself. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can take it from here. This is my first Android phone from Samsung, and by extension my first experience with TW.
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Yeah, I've been trying to research the SDcard vs. ExtSDcard differences. It seems to me like it's different from what I remember. I'd also appreciate any insight anyone has on this. I totally am not (yet) getting the emulated partition. When I go hunt for stuff, I use root explorer to go to \mnt\sdcard and don't start with the emulated partition. There doesn't seem to be much explanation out there so far as I can tell.