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So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
It can take up to a week to fully calibrate the battery. Since the battery doesn't have memory the phone has to get a feel for how much juice it actually has. Try it for a few days running the battery down and then charging it to full without unplugging. If that doesn't work you might want to try charging all the way then reflashing and immediately do a calibration.
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Yeah, I'd calibrate the battery - wouldn't hurt.
Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
Vangelis13 said:
Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
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Cheers guys I've taken this all on board.
I'm on 13hrs on battery, its showing 16pc. Battery calibration app shows 3609mv however. This doesn't seem right to me. Am I correct in assuming the phones battery power is the mv listed and no battery is more like 100mv??
Could anyone explain the 'mv' term to me?
Is 0mv when it powers down? Is this indicative of power?
Thanks.
Lithium ion batteries never fully discharge. If they did the battery would not recharge again.
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mv referers to mV, as in Milivolt. Most li-ion batteries are rated at 3.7V or 3700mV. A nominal full charge should be around 4.2V or 4200mV.
dLockers said:
So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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That's 35 minutes of active use. 10% isn't outside the realm of the possible.
I usually can go a full day on 60% battery, but this morning Facebook, the interwebs and text messaging put me from 100% to 77% in the course of 30 minutes. Draining 10% in 45 minutes does not seem out of the realm of possibility
I get mine to last around 20-26 hrs on a single charge, of course depending on use. but i hardly leave the house and dont use it a whole lot. One thing to make sure of is setting up profiles on SetCPU and/or undervolting. i just posted my setup on another thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20284361&postcount=28
so after you clicked the battery calibration button and it said calibration successful, you're wondering why the battery is dropping so fast under use right away?
Easy answer my friend, when you first use the battery calibration app, the first cycle (when phone is being used) will always drain a lot faster than the 2nd and 3rd time around.
The battery calibration app, wipes the battery stats, and makes a new one, however that does take at least 1 - 2 times of a full charge/discharge of the battery. There is a battery tread in the atrix general forum i believe for cailbration steps, etc to go about successfully doing a complete calibration when flashing from rom to rom.
Hope this helped
Hmm, maybe I am just upset that I have to charge every night.
Coming from a BlackBerry 9780 I could go 2 days with semi-heavy use.
I am now using the official Motorola cable, and only charging from very low to full.
Thank you for the advice.
dLockers said:
So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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Try getting one of these:
4800mah extended battery
1900mah extended battery
Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
thanks for the update
I agree, 10% loss in 40 minutes of active usage is not bad. If the OP had better battery life before he flashed to new ICS themed CM7 beta rom, maybe the new rom is to blame??? I'd OC/UV, possibly with the latest faux123 kernel.
dLockers said:
Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
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Thanks for the tip!!!
Hello,
I have ordered a new higher MAH battery for SGS II . I may be running stock ROM/Kernel or any of the custom AOSP ROM/Kernel.
During the kernel/ROM updates I have read that we dont usually need to clear the battery stats (since we are using the same existing battery).
However I will now be using the following battery :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058SJ5Q4/ref=oh_o00_s01_i02_details
I need to how to properly calibrate the battery status so I can achieve full charge and maximum run time from this battery. Do I need to clear battery stats (from recovery mode) first and then insert the battery for first time usage or otherwise.
Have read a couple of posts on the subject however none provides a clear defined and fixed approach to the issue.
Any detailed guidance would be appreciated to be of benefit for the community in general.
Thanks.
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Guess there are already enough methods and ways and some even debunk the myth that does the phone really needs any type of calibration/calibration apps at all or not.
Will try diving into it directly to see the effects myself if any.
You don't need to do anything other than sticking it in your phone.
When I got the 2000mah battery, I found my battery life to be equal or even slightly less than the stock one. I fully charged the battery, went to cwm and wiped battery stats, used battery completely till it died and then fully charged once again. It did seem to work as my battery life was much better.
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You don't need to do anything other than sticking it in your phone.
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He's right. Your battery calibrates itself with a full charging.
i read in a number of articles that you should reset/wipe your battery stats with CWM once your battery is at 100%, then switch off your phone and connect to a charger usb/plug until it will be charged to the actual 100% (usually only 1-2% at most)...
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i read in a number of articles that you should reset/wipe your battery stats with CWM once your battery is at 100%, then switch off your phone and connect to a charger usb/plug until it will be charged to the actual 100% (usually only 1-2% at most)...
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All 100% wrong .
As it only wipes the stats that show and plays no part in calibration of the battery .
jje
JJEgan said:
All 100% wrong .
As it only wipes the stats that show and plays no part in calibration of the battery .
jje
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thnx for the correction, what do you think about "Battery Monitor Widget" app? Does its function to calibrate actually work?
Got intrigued by the issue...
No, it doesn't. Due to hardware 'limitations', battery apps can only provide a rough guess at best of charge remaining, discharge rate, etc on SGS2.
And genuine (made by Samsung) batteries don't have to be (and cannot be) calibrated. There's a fuel gauge chip in the battery which does this automatically.
Some people having issues with the battery report charging to 100%, removing the battery for a few minutes (so the fuel gauge chip doesn't have power for that time) & putting it back in the phone fixes their issues, but even that sounds like voodoo to me.
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thnx for the correction, what do you think about "Battery Monitor Widget" app? Does its function to calibrate actually work?
Got intrigued by the issue...
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So, some of us say that battery calibration is a must after flashing a ROM, while some never calibrate their batter, and few like to calibrate it once every 3-4 months. So it is my request to share your experience and recommendations.
This should be all you need:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
sweetnsour said:
This should be all you need:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Moreover, I've said it before and I'll say it again:
LITHIUM ION BATTERIES DO NOT NEED TO BE CALIBRATED. They have no "memory" effect. There's a charge circuit built into them that constantly monitors the voltage of the battery.
Attempting to calibrate a lithium ion battery will actually cause more wear in a shorter period of time than had you simply left it alone.
Sometimes when you flash ROM to ROM, old batterystats get left behind and mess up the battery. I had a glitch where it said the battery was full but the percentage was only at 92%. I'm not sure if this is a calibration glitch or just a kernel glitch, but calibrating it fixed it.
vj_dustin said:
i prefer wiping battery stats every flash instead of calibrating..
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This is actually one way to calibrate battery.
And calibration means the accurate way to read batt level by ROM, which by any means, cannot harm battery itself.
Not calibrating i had the surprise to wake up with more batt than i went to sleep with. Or, as said here, you can find out that the ROM is indicating you have less batt than you actually do. I goess that is the only thing that can go wrong. Anyways, i only calibrate when flashing new ROM or restorin a backup. And i use BatteryCalibration from market.
I don't know about you guys but everytime I flash a new rom I charge to 100%,reboot in recovery and wipe everything +battery stats.From time to time I prefer to do a calibration process.It's something that i found on lg-p500.ru and works for me.If anyone is interested how I calibrate my battery,look here .
PS*offline charging is required.
theanykey said:
Moreover, I've said it before and I'll say it again:
LITHIUM ION BATTERIES DO NOT NEED TO BE CALIBRATED. They have no "memory" effect. There's a charge circuit built into them that constantly monitors the voltage of the battery.
Attempting to calibrate a lithium ion battery will actually cause more wear in a shorter period of time than had you simply left it alone.
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+1, just search Google, there a lot of explanations on how Li-ion works, found out myself in 2009.
Just read this for crying out-loud How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries
Edit: just in case you don't get the +1.. ''LITHIUM ION BATTERIES DO NOT NEED TO BE CALIBRATED''
It is recommended that you DONT let your battery fully discharge, ever (it shortens its life) that is one of the reasons android notifies you have a low battery on 20%.
,i think we dont need to calibrate battery,fully discharging may affect battery,thats what ive read in the internet,ahm,by the way i have battery drain now,im using lewa OS m6 + roq XII,my betterbatterystats is ok,it is sleeping,hmm do i have battery drain?,i dont want to calibrate my battery,
I tried searching this in a number of places. I couldn't find what I was looking for, although it didn't help I had trouble using the right words to search for it with, but here goes.
I'm running CleanROM Reborn 1.1, I love it! Other info is also in my signature. Once I turned on the percentage number for my battery level, I really started to notice this.
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
download Battery Calibration from the Google Play Store, then charge your phone to %100. open the Battery Calibration app and calibrate it. There is also instructions inside the App if my instructions are unclear
Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
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Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
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Not to hijack the thread, but the phone is designed to fully charge and then discharge to 95% and then charge to 100% again, rinse, and repeat. This is to keep the battery from becoming destroyed by overcharging. Maybe that's what you are seeing, Bambino.
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Iceman248 said:
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
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I've noticed this too on Ics leak roms. It sips power with screen off, then drains quickly when on sometimes and hardly at all other times. Mine just sat at 82% for the past 20 minutes, then dropped to 76% over the past five. I've heard battery calibration is bunk, but I'll try the previously mentioned app and see.
Some roms do not use a percentage because they are so inaccurate and cause the user to obsess
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A little info on batteries
The important thing to remember about Lithium Ion batteries is that when you do charge them, bring them up to full charge before taking them off the charger.
They all have a circuit board in them that remembers a full charge. (If you've every taken one apart you'd see this) When you charge them this chip will restore the amount of power that has drained.
Partially charging them will screw up this function. And screw up the battery.
Deep Cycling is good for them but not all the time. Once a month is good for them.
A good rule of thumb, but not absolutely necessary is to discharge them 50% and then bring them up to a full charge. Obviously this is not always possible when playing video games or watching movies. I always try to leave it on the charger when watching movies in the cradle.
There is an app on the Market called Battery Repair. It makes an attempt to reset this chip on the battery by meticulous monitoring the charge and capacity left in the battery. Running diagnostics and setting the battery to its best state. Its the only one out there that does this.
Battery Calibration app is good if you change roms or batteries alot.
Here is what it does:
Calibration needs to be done after flashing a new ROM, but you can calibrate any time you think your battery is miscalibrated. This program does it by removing the batterystats.bin system file. The OS generates a new clean batterystats file soon, thus any fake information from the previous ROM is removed.
It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break.
The app shows your actual battery status, and only allows you to start the calibration (i.e. removes the file) when it's fully charged, unless you force earlier calibration.
The voltage meter can be useful too. Full charge is around 4200mV.
For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
EVOme said:
For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
Legacystar said:
let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
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Will try that....thanks!!!
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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doing it constantly is bad, once will not effect it.
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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The statement about li-ion not being akin to ni-cad is correct. The rest is not.
No app is capable of battery calibration. The myth of wiping battery stats to calibrate the battery was clearly and concisely debunked a year and a half ago. Apps such as Battery Calibration ate pure snake oil, as they do not affect battery indication in any way, shape, or form. Additionally, there is absolutely no benefit to wiping battery stats after flashing a rom.
The fact of the matter, as verified by Battery University, is that a complete discharge/charge cycle is the only method of "calibration" available to an end user. By performing a single cycle, the charge and discharge flags are reset. Only a single cycle is needed and this is something that need be performed more than a few times a year, as it wail shorten the battery's serviceable lifespan.
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Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
Eric214 said:
Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Well a friend of mine had the same issue with "stuck battery %" and that did the trick soooo just helping out with what worked for another is all. whatever
That actually didn't do the trick, as nothing relevant to reported charge is contained in the file that is wiped. While it may seem logical to ascribe the fix to a proximal act, it is actually a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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najaboy said:
There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Neither did this. The battery calibrator app did nothing either. My phone is still showing a percent up top that is not what shows in settings/more/battery. More news, my phone showed this morning, after I unplugged it from all night charge, that it had been running on battery for 8 hours 2 minutes. The whole battery status is fubar somehow.
Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
Legacystar said:
Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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That's the only thing I haven't tried. Will do that today. Will report.
Didn't work. Gonna have to dirty flash the ROM.
My S4 (2 months old) dies with the battery at 20%. After reboot (plugged in) it still says 20%. Why does that happen? It should say 0%!
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It seems that the battery gives an incorrect fake voltage sometimes. To correct that I turned the camer flash on, using a flashlight utility, and after a few seconds I clicked the quick start button in the battery calibration utility you can access dialing *#0228#.
Now it show 11% that should almost be correct, and it's now charging. I am charging it in slow mode at 500mA just to give it a proper charge.
I'll update you as soon as I have results.
Second Update
Nothing. I think the battery is broken.
It dies at about 20%-30% and when the phone restarts, plugged in, it says it's 20%.