First of all, hello. I'm new on the forum and this is my first thread.
I'm buying the Eee Pad Transformer in a few days and I have came up with a few worries.
So I read some threads on this forum regarding my problems but still I didn't find a exact answer, so I decided to post a few questions here.
1. What case is the best for the TF? I need a case that opens all of the ports, and can hold the device on 2 angles: one 90 degreas and one around 20-30, you get the point.
2. Should I buy a screen protector? Do I need it? Isn't the Gorrila thing enough on the screen?
3. Should I root the TF? Why should I need the root? What are the pros and cons of rooting your device?
Please answere to as many questions that you can.
Thanks!
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Best case is purely subjective. About half the threads in this forum are on cases so just go to the front page and read away.
Screen protectors are also a bit of an opinion. I don't use one, lots of other people do. If I were going to get one it would probably be to pick up some glare reduction but right now I haven't seen any matt screen protectors that are fit to the Transformer so I just go bare.
Rooting is up to you. It lets you use some applications and access different parts of the system than you could without root access. Honestly if you don't know what root is you probably don't need it. When you bump into something that won't work without root the process to root only gets easier the longer the device is out so probably best off waiting.
Hope this helps.
thanks
I'm not really a noob in this stuff but I just wanted some opinions.
Thank you for your advices
In regards to cases, i'm not going to go through the accessories forum to find you links as i'm on tapatalk and its a pain, but the kind of case you are looking for are folio cases, of which i believe there are a few being talked about in the accessories forum. You should also know that of those folio cases none of them can be used while the transformer is docked, but if you don't intend on getting the dock then it doesn't matter. For non-folio cases, any 10 inch netbook case will fit with the tranformer docked. For sleeves, leather ipad cases will not fit as the transformer is longer but narrower than the ipad, neoprene sleeves may fit as they stretch and are usually not as rigid and form-fitted as leather or plastic cases.
Screen protector is indeed a matter of opinion, and here's mine for your consideration: some people like the feel of just the glass, and those folks are more likely to say that theres no NEED for a screen protector, and i would tend to agree with them on that point.
-"Dry apply" hard plastic film protectors tend to offer nothing different compared to the stock glass screen, at least not the crystal clear ones. The matte ones will give you more fingerprint resistence and a bit of glare reduction, but at the cost of screen clarity as the matte protectors are "frosted" and break up the light hitting the screen as well as coming out of the screen. The matte protectors also glide smooth under more conditions than their clear counterparts and the bare glass screen due to the texture.
-"Wet apply" soft film protectors will give you a bit of the glare reduction, and can also diffuse some of the light, but not to the same degree as matte protectors. Depending on how well you install it, they can look great or look like crap, but they seem to offer the most protection compared to crystal clear and matte hard films. The soft surface will stand up to more abuse than the hard plastic variants. I have used the skinomi screen protector on this and its not bad, though i personally ranked the feel of the thing dead last compared to a matte protector and the bare screen. It gripped my thumbs enough that after a 2 hour gun bros session my thumbs felt like i had been playing SNES instead of a flat screen with no bumps.
-The abuse threshold of both types of screen protectors are less than the gorilla glass specs, but the point is not that the screen protector is tougher than the screen, but rather if somehow you get those few grains of sand or hard silicate material near the screen, the protector will take the damage instead of the screen. Do you NEED it? probably not, but i would recommend one for a bit of insurance. I have personally suffered a damaged Zune HD, the circumstances under which i have yet to determine today, as it was in a pouch by itself in my pocket. Gorilla glass is tough, but it is neither scratch proof nor shatter proof, glass is glass.
Rooting: if the stock experience for you is nice and smooth, and you don't tend to mess with the inner workings of your devices, then i would say there is no need to root. Personally I am a flashaholic and like to play around with overclocking and themes. I also like to have backups of my OS in case i install some malware or completely bork my current setup somehow via 3rd party software. Other than that, rooting does not currently add any earthshattering features that you must have (maybe the wip reboot to recovery fuction, but if you're not rooted it won't apply anyway). That being said though, I'm not sure what progress has been or will be made on rooting from 3.1 (not sure what the holdup is) but if you intend on dabbling in rooting down the line, might as well downgrade (if your unit comes with 3.1 instead of 3.0), root it and go from there. You lose the ability to OTA, but the community is usually very fast on getting rooted versions of the OTA releases ready to flash soon after they are available.
Sorry for the long winded reply, hopefully it will be a fruitful read for you.
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Hi All,
I'm looking for opinions on screen protectors. Which is the best for the G-Tab in your opinion and why? I see Skinomi has some specifically for the G tab, are they any good? What are you thoughts?
If you use the search feature, you will find talk about this subject. Then you will not need to start a brand new thread in the wrong place.
I got a skinomi and I love the carbon fiber protective back the most, it adds a ton of grip to the back and sides. The screen protector is good but its a wet application and is a little hard to do. You also can't use your gtablet for at least 4 hours after application. I let it sit over night and it was still a little weird for the next day. After 4 days it was perfect. I ended up with 2 specs under the surface but its almost unavoidable unless you have a clean room and body suit to apply it. The self healing aspect is totally cool. I scratched the protector with my keys on accident and all I had to do was get it. A little hot with a hair dryer and buff it out with the cleaning cloth. Over all happy with the company and product even though the first screen I was sent had surface artifacts and ridges. I received a free replacement within a week.
Go to http://electroniccrap.com/store/index.php?main_page=products_new you wii get the one you want
1 for the Skinomi
You can't beat the price, nor the durability of the skinomi protectors (and in general the skin protectors like ZAGGs, BSE ..), its no where comparable to the plastic stick-me-on sheets.
The Skinomi is even cheaper than the plastic one linked above
You don't have to freak out about the installation, if you can read/see and follow instructions there should be no room to do it wrong (some people try to smart it out and that way doesn't usually work)
There is a whole thread about it here.
Do you think the plastic sheets would servive that ? Think again
Hello all,
Would anyone have any recommendations for screen protectors that would work well with the Transformer? Whilst I realize that it may take a while for screen protectors that were specifically designed for the Transformer to be released, I will be doing quite a bit of travelling with the tablet over the next few weeks and would like to have something to protect the screen (I will also buy a case for it)
Many thanks!
You dont need any screen protector. It's got gorilla glass. If you can scratch the gorilla glass with anything other than a diamond ill buy you a new one myself.
Here's one of many videos of it on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avhQGzTld08
Thanks for the reply stuntdouble: I hear you on the Gorilla Glass, but I want to try to keep the screen prestine for when I try to sell my current unit when the Transformer V2 comes out. Maybe I'm being a bit irrational here but, for the small price of a screen protector, its more of a "why not" sort of thing.
Thanks dude
Well like I said before, the only things that will scratch it will be things like diamonds, and they will easily go through any screen protector you use anyways. All any gorilla glass screen needs to look pristine is a good wipe with a lens cloth every once in a while. So unless you are Kanye West or Lady Gaga with all the bling, you'll be fine.
A case however is a good idea for the rest of the unit's protection.
That's awesome, thanks for the vid.
You won't need a screen protector. It will look prestine forever. If it gets oily/greasy, just use an LCD/Plasma screen wipe on it and it will look good as new.
I am a SysAdmin at my company that has Macs and PCs, I steal the Mac screen wipes for devices and those work awesome lol.
What about one that helps with sunlight. It seems that it will be pretty unusable outdoors otherwise? Correct me if you know different.
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What about one that helps with sunlight. It seems that it will be pretty unusable outdoors otherwise? Correct me if you know different.
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That's why I buy screen protectors too, it makes a difference having a matt one.
I think a matte one would help with glare and annoying fingerprints. I've had two gorilla glass phones and I often like a protector for these two purposes, not just for protection.
Any links to matte ones ?, There's only ipad ones on ebay.
This is what I found, I may get one for myself.
http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-TechS...3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1303279000&sr=1-3
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How about this? Anti-reflective apparently...
EDIT. Arg, can't post the link yet. However go to Amazon UK, it's called:
"Vikuiti screen protector ADQC27 for Asus Eee Pad Transformer - PREMIUM QUALITY (crystal clear, anti-reflective, scratch-resistant, easy mountable)"
I'm a bit torn as to what to do about a screen protector for my transformer. Unless you get a really good matte one, they often reduce the clarity of the screen and introduce a kind of rainbow grain, and I don't want that as it was bad enough on my iphone.
However, I don't want a protector that doesn't really reduce the reflectiveness of the gorillaglass by much - the matte ones are brilliant for this and are really silky to the touch as well, but you do often have that trade off with image quality. At nearly £30 a pop, it's not the sort of thing you want to experiment with either!
Anyone got a protector they like yet?
I'll have to test this puppy outdoors before I start hunting down a anti-reflective screen protector. Reviewers tend to complain about glare and reflections much more than I do, so it is a wait and see situation. It's a huge trade off, matte faded colors with a cover, or bright, vivid display without? Plus, Corning gorilla glass is so silky smooth to the touch, I hate the feeling of cheap plastic screen covers.
@dandmcd Have you actually got one of these tablets? I have, and I can tell you that outdoors the thing is pretty much unusable and even in bright indoor areas like offices you'll need 100% brightness to be able to look at it without glare.
Also, my gorilla glass isn't what I'd call silky smooth. It's nicer than the iphone, but can still get sticky sometimes depending on how clammy your hands are. With the matt protector I have on my iphone, it's always silky smooth, just like The Zohan likes
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@dandmcd Have you actually got one of these tablets? I have, and I can tell you that outdoors the thing is pretty much unusable and even in bright indoor areas like offices you'll need 100% brightness to be able to look at it without glare.
Also, my gorilla glass isn't what I'd call silky smooth. It's nicer than the iphone, but can still get sticky sometimes depending on how clammy your hands are. With the matt protector I have on my iphone, it's always silky smooth, just like The Zohan likes
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I've not got any experience with touch screens (and especially multi-touch ones) used with screen protectors... Is your experience that you have to press harder or touches are detected less accurately when using a protector? If so, I'd likely prefer the glare issues to touch issues, but if not, a protector might well be worthwhile to cut down the glare...
To people saying it's not scratchable....yes, yes it is.
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To people saying it's not scratchable....yes, yes it is.
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Yeah, and Corning's own PR folks have confirmed it is neither scratch *or* shatter proof in their own marketing videos. In several videos they reference having sand-blasted the glass to simulate normal use, and you can clearly see the scratched, sand-blasted area. In one video the Corning rep even states during the pressure test that "you could break it if you really bear down on it" or words to that effect.
Gorilla glass is neither scratch proof nor break proof -- it's just more strongly resistant to both than regular glass.
@dandmcd - It really does depend on the screen protector, but on the whole most are manufactured thin enough in that they don't affect the touchscreen sensitivity at all. I can only comment from my experience with two versions of the iphone, I haven't got a screen protector for my transformer yet....
Try http://www.durasec.com
So... On my phone i always use those plastic film thingies because a smartphone is something that i take everywhere with me and put it in different locations like pockets, backpacks etc. Other stuff can be in those pockets so scratches are definately a possibility. I just dont feel comfortable without it and they dont bother me at all while using the phone.
But on a tablet like the prime its a whole different story. When I use it I sit somewhere, comfortably and safe. When i take it with me it's in its neoprene sleeve. Also i usually take the dock with me, and when its docked the screen is automatically protected...
The Prime has even Gorilla glass so i dont plan on putting anything on it. This is my first tablet so you guys may have more experience with it... Your thoughts? The glass feels just so awesome to the touch, i dont think a protector can replicate that.
So do you plan on putting a protector on it?
Btw1: i really dont care about scratches on the back^^ It gives the device some personality! Its the same with books for me. Hate it when they are new and shiny. Feel free to comment on that as well
Btw2: Maybe this thread should be in the Accessory forum? This is a general discussion though - i think? Mods, do what you have to do.
I was thinking the same about the screen protector, but the IPS feels so good that i think I'm just going to get the sleeve.
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i bought one and it was near impossible to get it on without dust or something under it. thats a huge area to try to get dustless even in just a few seconds
i havent been using one, i just rub my tfp against whatever cotton shirt i might be wearing, that cleans the screen and i havent had any scratches.
i use a leather folio style case, so the screen is usually covered for the most part, i just use my shirt to get finger prints off lol
I have a dry application crystal clear screen protector and I love it mostly because it doesn't collect fingerprints and smudges as easy and is easier to wipe clean if anything this is worth it alone plus you don't have to worry about a accidental scratch somehow.
I don't and won't be using one. The tablet has gorilla glass and is very durable. My phone also has it and that goes all sorts of places and has remained scratch free. Considering my tablet is only at home loose otherwise always in the dock which then goes in the neoprene case, I have no desire to put one on and am not going to worry about it.
Prime has gorilla glass. I don't have one n my screen looks great. Veryyyy scratch resistant. Plus it cleans off so easily with the included cloth. All screen protectors do is degrade screen quality n throw off touch response.
http://gizmodo.com/5880520/stop-ruining-your-phone-with-a-stupid-case
no phone/tablet is designed to be used with a cover/skin, except iPhone 4
im glad my galaxy s2 is "free" after having a cover for 2 weeks..
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I know the link is about cases, but still think its in the same categori!
I took my prime down to the invisible shield stand in the mall to get a screen protector. hen I got there they said because the device was so new they didnt have anything for it. But because it was a TFP the guy offered to custom cut one for me.
Say what you want, but I got mine done without even a fleck of dust under it and it offers no distortion of my screen, nor do I notice any sensitivity loss. Not only that but I find its way easier to clean.
Besides who knows whats gunna jump out of nowhere and try and scratch your screen.
screen protector I have does not throw off sensitivity at all I was worried it would but it didn't just as responsive.
It may be false sense of security, but I have the skinomi protection on mine. Just in case. The screen is beautiful and I don't want anything to happen to it.
Yes. I liked the feel of it better without the screen protector. But I've not noticed any degrading of color, etc. There are 2 specs of dust that got underneath that are driving me MAD and that may end up being why I take it off, maybe. But overall its better because no finger prints and less worry.
But not as nice to touch
I've had my desire for nearly 2 years and there isn't a mark on the screen dropped at a few times too, great big dent on one corner but no scratches. Them corner protectors but probably a good idea but not worth trying to get a screen protector on.
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I use a protector, feels as good as the glass screen.
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i bought one and it was near impossible to get it on without dust or something under it. thats a huge area to try to get dustless even in just a few seconds
i havent been using one, i just rub my tfp against whatever cotton shirt i might be wearing, that cleans the screen and i havent had any scratches.
i use a leather folio style case, so the screen is usually covered for the most part, i just use my shirt to get finger prints off lol
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Take a shower and install the screen protector in the bathroom when it is still humid. Works like a charm to install screen protectors dust free.
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Guys, I want to bring this to your attention so what happened to me doesn't befall you:
The Gorilla Glass, while tough, can be scratched quite easily under the right conditions. I was in a thread a few weeks agao, being all smart (like my Username, LOL!) saying that a screen protector was a waste. a) Because they make a beautiful screen something "less beautiful" b) that they are difficult to place on the glass properly, and c) My biggest pout: Anything that is sharp enough, hard enough, and strikes with enough force or velocity to scratch, chip or otherwise damage Gorilla Glass will likely not have any less impact from a piece of plastic between the glass and the projectile.
In other words, if something is going to damage the hardened glass, how is a decidedly super thin piece of plastic going to stop it?
In retrospect, I was very wrong, or at least partly wrong. That very night my daughter sat with me playing games on the Prime. We played a few games together: Where's my water, and similar. Then I played Need For Speed, and then she played Fruit Ninja.
When I went to clean all the 11 year old finger prints off, I noticed what looked to be scratches in the glass. At first I thought it was just debris from sticky fingers, but no... it was... HOLY **** THE GLASS WAS FREAKING SCRATCHED RIGHT THE **** THROUGH!!!!!!
Seems she had a cheap metal ring on, with a split back that lets you adjust the size. By holding the tablet in portrait, and not hard or in any way roughly, she scratched the glass on the right side of the camera, a 1" wide SET of scratches, not one or two, but a swirl of perhaps 12 or 15 scratches that were deep enough to be basically impossible to remove.
I tried to see if there were any methods to polish this out. including seeking help from a glass polishing co, and optometry tools and materials. All advised against it, and the amount of sanding, and polishing needed would have put an obvious "dent" in the glass that would make it no longer true or flat.
Fortunately I had insurance, and for a $125 deductible I was able to replace the unit. Lesson (a huge one) learned. Lesson I am trying to pass along? BE CAREFUL. Check EVERYONE who uses the the tablet to make sure they have no rings or jewelry. If a screen protector makes you feel more comfortable, b all means get one, and keep it on there, there are two types, the rubbery "sticky" ones that I hate, since your finger stick and won't slide on it very well, and the harder, shinier material (actually comes in an anti reflection satin finish too I believe).
No matter what you decide remember, if something looks like it could scratch the glass, don't take chances with it. better safe than hugely sorry. Also, while Gorilla Glass IS scratch resistant, it is NOT BREAK RESISTANT. When I saw the damage to my screen, I admit, I actually was close to tears... No ****.
Be careful out there.
Thx for your input man So i guess if i ever have a daughter i get an iPad to play games with her. It'll be fun to watch how she takes it apart and scratches it all over the place.. MUAHAHAHHAHAHhahhaaaa!
In a word: Yes.
Not so much for protection though but to minimize reflections and fingerprints.
While losing a tiny bit of sharpness and color the display is much more readable under any circumstances. No need to "wash" off fingerprints every 10 minutes, no need to hold the tablet so no lights are reflected right where I want to read something onscreen.
I use this one:
http://www.danto.de/onscreen-schutzfolie-fuer-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-typ-non-reflecting.html
Since a tablet screen is much bigger than that of a smartphone applying it has to be done cautious and calm. To get rid of any particles between screen and protector I used TESA stripes to pull the protector off a bit and then another one to remove the particles.
Good idea with the shower, though.
demandarin said:
Prime has gorilla glass. I don't have one n my screen looks great. Veryyyy scratch resistant. Plus it cleans off so easily with the included cloth. All screen protectors do is degrade screen quality n throw off touch response.
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I concur. A screen protector isn't necessary for normal use. Also, you might have some issues docking it with a protector on.
i dont see any point to use screen protector, its not small device like regular cellphone which may be accidently put in same pocket as your keys and therefore scratch your screen. I use mine mostly with dock, so when its closed its protected by dock, and while not having it docked i use leather case from ebay. And afterall it has gorilla glass should be durable
IMO, no, it does not need one, but it never hurts to be safe. I've no case for mine yet, and am about to have a Skinomi skin to throw on it, and have been using it for only three days. My screen is perfect, I'm a neat freak and keep it spotless, keeping a cloth on hand and using a stylus. However, a case/skin for the back most certainly is needed if you don't like scratches. I don't mind them, my phone is covered in dings and scratches and gouges, but the screen is fine with a protector.
In short, no, it doesn't really need one, but yes I'll be using one. Damned if I'll accidentally hit my jacket zipper too hard or something retarded.
Like the above poster said, does it NEED a screen protector, no. But lets be realistic, people give gorilla glass way too much credit thinking that its invincible. If the tab is always in an immaculately clean place, then you have nothing to worry about. But a lot of dirt particles also have tiny particles of sand in it, which easily scratches glass. Key tests are just useless propaganda. Its little sand particles and other small minerals found in dirt that will scratch your screen, which is how most peoples phone screens get scratched without them realizing. Dirt and dust are everywhere. But if you're careful enough, you can minimize the issue. Personally, I spent $500 on a device so I feel an extra $10 to protect the screen against scratches and preserve resale value isn't much to ask. Also, Skinomi has a screen protector that has a cutout for the dock, I highly recommend it,its super clear.
Long story short, you don't need one if you're going to be careful enough. But don't fall for marketing hype and think that gorilla glass is indestructible. It actually marks up pretty easy (especially if theres a coating on top of the gorilla glass). I put screen protectors on my devices so I don't have to baby them. If i'm always worried about scratches, I can't fully enjoy it.
Hello , I bought the invisible shield 2 weeks ago
And im very disappointment , the touch not good , not smooth
Alot of Dust and dirt even after 2 with no use
Alot Of fingrprints
There is screen protector that really do the job?
Of course there is a good protector: XTREME GUARD
I love the Skinomi. It's cut yo for the dock as well. Very smooth to the touch bit shows the glare quite a bit. The feel is much more important to me so it was an easy tradeoff.
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as far as screen protectors go i actually LIKE invisible shield. It does the job well and tends to be (in my area anyways) less expensive. its also damn near indistructable so when im doing construction my phone screen doesnt take a beating (gorilla glass has three scratches from before i put the IS on it)
as for on the prime, ya it adds a bit of texture. there are thinner variations of the same material that do pretty much the same thing. You are looking for one that has an oileophobic coating on it to repel fingerprints (like the glass on the prime has), i know they make them i just cant think of the brand right now.... Some special brand i think you can only special order them. Not sure on quality but the oileophobic ones are definately what you want for fingerprints.
Theres also those kiosks that started popping up everywhere, forget their name like skreenguard or stealthguard or something, the material is very thin but its the same stuff... It would likely feel smoother because its thinner but its also more expensive. Usually they have devices around the kiosk that have the material on them, you can judge for yourself if you like it or not.
Honestly nothing is going to feel exactly like glass. There are some that are close however IMO they offer less protection. Try looking at friends phones and asking what kind of screen protector they have on them, go to the various cell phone booths in your area and talk to the guys there. When you find a brand you like the feel of it then see if you can get a sheet big enough for the prime.
Another trick: you dont HAVE to get a screen protector designed specifically for the prime. On the back of my tablet to prevent scratching i have a SP designed for the galaxy tab. On the front i used one for the TF101 and (carefully, with an extremely sharp set of scissors and knife and a LOT of patience) cut out for the dock connector. Saved myself nearly $50 doing it this way since they were both on clearance when i bought em. They are not a perfect fit but close enough for my needs.
I've tried the ArmorSuit, Skinomi and ACase screen protectors.
My personal favorite is the dry apply (there are two different types) ACase screen protectors.
They are about as close to clear and invisible, once applied, as any screen protector I've ever used. They also don't have any texture or orange peel to them.
You also get three to a pack, but I'd probably recommend them even if it was only for one protector in a pack.
(Make sure to purchase the dry apply version)
Hey guys, I'm just wondering what do you think the best screen protector for the Nook is?
I'm looking for clarity mostly, but feel is important too.
I usually wouldn't ask such a basic question, but after 20 minutes of googling there doesn't seem to be anyone who's asked this question before lol. I don't understand it either because I know not all screen protectors are made equally, so there has to be some comparison but I can't find anything.
Thanks.
edit: Then again, if I get a case do I need a screen protector? Hmm.......I can't even decide if I want a case or just keep it in a neoprene bag.
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I tried serveral different screen protectors for my NST, but found that they all add a significant amount of glare. One of the best things about this device is daylight readability in direct sunlight, and they all ruined that experience, so I just do without.
I have mine in a silicone cover, and put it in a zipped rigid cover for travel. So far, so good. This thing cost so little that I'd rather maximize enjoyment rather and use it rater than obsess about its health. Carpe Diem and all that.
The NSTG doesn't need a screen protector, and adding one can actually cause issues, the NST only sort of suggests using one and honestly you'd be fine without one.
The thin sheet of material that comprises most screen protectors wont do anything to protect the NST/G screens. But it adds another layer between you and the text, and can block the infrared sensors on the Nook.