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Hey is the atrix's camera better than the iphone 4's?
I've read many reviews, and it looks like the atrix 4g's camera is just average.
This is kind of depressing , considering I wanted a phone with a nice camera.
I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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FLAC Vest said:
I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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how far off from the iphone's camera is it? I guess I could just use picsay pro to fill in the missing holes. =/
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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franciscojavierleon said:
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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Definitely a purple bluish tint. Although that does suck, I will have my Captivate as a backup.
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In my experience with the HTC EVO, the auto white-balance in Android, in a word, blows. However, selecting the white-balance for the situation at hand works great.
Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Please lay off the myth that more MP=more quality. The quality of a camera is related to the quality and the size of the lens. I couldn't care less if a phone's camera is 3MP as long as it has a good lens. The iphone4's camera has pretty big lens that's the reason the pictures are very nice for a phone.
Sadly the atrix has a crappy camera, but i am hopeful the purple tint can be fixed in a update.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
I'm just hoping the camera is better than the one I had on my aria.
Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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your right; no camera phone will take a pic even close to my DSLR; but to be honest with you, the iphone4 takes pics that are good enough if they're just for my computer. the DSLR is bulky and isnt always there when you need it; your phone is usually always with you; so it's nice to have a phone that takes somewhat decent pictures. i remember when i first got my e71 and was so disappointed in the camera; hope the atrix is not the same. but it sure looked similar during engadgets review
Yes it's nice to have for little things, and i use it for that, i'm just saying i've never looked at a cell phone and thought "yes, this will replace my camera"
I'll reserve judgement for when i get mine. Engadget has been proving their incompetence more and more lately, so i put little to no faith in their ability to create fair or accurate tests.
I love having a camera in my pocket at all times but every phone I've ever had has taken disappointing pictures. My touch pro 2 takes alright/almost acceptable shots outside during the day but in low light its not even worth trying. I am looking forward to the led flash on the atrix but I'm sure it will be a while before a phone replaces stand alone cameras for even point and shoot average Joes.
I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
Eh, for what I use my camera for (pictures at bars, on the beach, videos of people doing stupid ****), I don't need a 12 mp megashooter that can capture the individual pores on your nose. I'm just happy to finally have a flash on my phone.
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I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
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I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
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I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
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Thanks. But I think the camera is really good. Is a very cloudy and gloomy day so thats why it looks a little sad.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
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Not a hater at all lol. but give credit where credit is due. My nokia n 95 had a terrific camera. My sony k 850 I had an even better camera. My question is this; why is everybody going gaga over the camera in over the camera in the iphone when it took four generations for apple to finally install a halfway decent camera? In reality people should have been booing apple for the 3 phones with lousy cameras.
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How do u guys think the Evo 3D still pictures will compare in quality to the original Evo?
I know megapixels isn't everything, and of course I'm talking only about 2D stills, but I'm wondering if the still pictures from the 3D will be better
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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Hmm, I am sure there are MANY people that would take offense to that.How is photography any less of a profession then any other job? I would like to see you even come close to some of the pictures professionals can take. The cameras crap on it...
yeah those nokia cameras are ****ing sweet
I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
HTC usually either has hits or miss on the camera. Well just have to wait and see.
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Two 8mp images per 3d picture is probably why. 5mp will take enough space as it is.
That and the thing is... there really is no way currently to have a "great" 8 mp camera on a phone, with a lens/ sensor that small.
Yea the reason for 5mp instead of dual 8mp has to do with image/video file size more than likely.
As for the Evo 1 camera, is have to say its the first phone camera I even considered replacing my real camera with. I have a 12mp ~$200 Sony camera that I never use. 4x6 prints look just as good on both. The Sony handles low light better, but its not worth carrying an extra device
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i dont really care about an upgrade to the camera, as i find it is decent enough for its usability and quality
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they better work on that damned flash....while my pictures are good on the evo, at night everyone is a ghost
The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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You got specs to back that up?
i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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lol. In all the pictures i have seen comparing the two, the evo has been worse.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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My 2cents on this:
Photography is an art, just like painting, tattoos, piercings, acting (stage and TV) and have all been around for as long as history has been written (except for the acting on TV of course). But to talk about getting paid for a hobby, lets now include sports (ALL Sports) and these are also considered "hobbies" but these people get paid more than doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. You don't complain about them though.
About the camera, like said before....its a phone, 5MP is awesome AND IT HAS TWO. For daily use, it should/will get the job done. If your a "professional" D) then you would not even consider using the phone for your work. It's called convenience and it's why you pay $700 for a phone that can play movies, pictures, search the web, play low quality game (that can be addictive), TEXT, have a camera and flashlight with you at all times, GPS (all this on a relatively small screen) and I guess make a call.
Don't discriminate!
I'm a massive fan of the EVO and am pre-ordering the 3D immediately. That being said, the EVO 1 pictures aren't as good as the Iphones. In Outdoor, sunny situations they are excellent but indoors they suck compare to the iphone. Also, the flash handling really is garbage, I'm always trying to adjust the white balance to account for it or take my picture slightly further back etc etc. It's just ****ty and then I see my brother iPhone 4 pics using OOTB settings taking the same stupid picture of our family at the table and its way better.
I would really like to see some information stating that the CMOS sensor is 2x as good...it certainly better be!!
Another note, the iPhone 4 video is a WORLD above the EVO in lower light. It embarrassing. I brag about my phone but then can't use the video from a basketball game because its indoors and again...brothers iPhone videos look pretty good.
A side note, can't stand apple and their draconian koolaid they sell all the schmucks on
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I've found that when were dealing with pictures in natural lighting, the results are absolutely AMAZING, but when it comes to low light, darkness and requiring the flash, that is when the coloring was off and blurry etc. i would expect the same from the new camera just as basically every phone cam i've seen.
Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
How did the screen look? Some reviews say it looks like poo because of it being 3D. I think that shouldn't be the case.
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So how does the pic you took with 3D compare to Ur 4G?
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Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
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I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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Because the movie was captured with professional 3D equipment. The Evo 3D is true 3D, all you need are 2 cameras, just like you have 2 eyeballs on your head. The problem with having 2 fixed cameras though, is that they cannot pivot (like your eyeballs) in order to compensate for the distance between the cameras and the subject, so the 3D/depth perception will not always be that good, especially for closeups.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
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I agree, the pic does look quite nice ... even though I see plenty evidence of compression losses, that's not the camera's fault and can be easily fixed in the settings.
Thanks OP. I was having a hard time believing that HTC couldn't get a 5MP camera to take a decent pic.
Will be interesting to see how Vignette performs on the phone. By far, the superior camera app, because it limits compression.
The two cameras are too close together for the 3D effect to be as visible as what the movies are. Ideally they would be as far apart as both your eyes are but that's not very practical on a cell phone. The picture there looks pretty good to me though, not as good as what my DSLR can do but the lenses alone for that thing are more than that phone costs.
i'm not worried as much about the megapixel part of the camera or even the 3d portion... i just want it to be clear and the color right.
my evo 4g takes clear pictures but the colors are way off.
here's a picture of my bike taken with my EVO:
and here's what it really looks like...taken with a older Nikon point and shoot:
ps: thanks for snagging a picture with the phone though. the color looks better than my evo.... it does look grainy though.
Second picture is just about as good as the Samsung Epic 4G camera.
First picture is random (was going to look up what type of plant it was) and second picture is my friend's dock.
These look very similar to the quality of EVO 3D's camera.
samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3kACqfLKhhFAPSAGYG6PNPBysbpwLdvsPkUAoJFAq4I?feat=directlink
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samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
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Yep, I have some amazing shots with my Vibrant
Yeah my moms epic camera is way better than my EVO.
I noticed your in a Sprint store. Anyone know when they will be up for display? I assume not until the 24th? I think I want to see the phone in person before I decide.
I honestly do think that HTC is not as good as samsung probably when it comes to writing software. I honestly do believe that software customizations that samsung makes are probably much better than HTC.
Touchwiz is much more buggy than sense imo. Samsung just uses better sensors for their cameras
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the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
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agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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then htc needs to stop putting 10 layers on their damned lenses and keep one good GLASS layer that’s not protrududing from the damned phone so it gets frekin scratched.
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The evo 4g has the same sensor as the iphone4 IIRC....the lense and software not so much
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shot's from the new N9 phone from nokia .... CRAZY
Am I missing something? They don't look that special or spectacular compared to shots I've taken the the Evo 3D.
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Am I missing something? They don't look that special or spectacular compared to shots I've taken the the Evo 3D.
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the e3d can take detailed shot like that ? tell me the settings please im not knocking the camera on the e3d just dont think its can take pictures like this
If you want to take good pics, get a camera.
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Am I missing something? They don't look that special or spectacular compared to shots I've taken the the Evo 3D.
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Those are very good shots for a camera phone. They're above cheap point and shoot cameras.
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If you want to take good pics, get a camera.
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i agree but that phones is taking pics as good as my wife's 12 mega pixel cannon that's what i fined crazy is the detail its able to pick up
The n8 does even better..but I actually think the 3vo takes nice pictures http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5895063118/
Yeah the N8's carl ziess lens & xenon flash is nuts. The sensor is freakin huge.
I've been able to pull off some excellent shots with the EVO 3D's camera though.
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Those really are very good for a phone.
But, just too many other things I want my phone to do. And I think I am really tied into Android. I am really liking this cloud/mostly open source thing. So going Nokia/Microsoft would be going backwards for me, a former Windows Mobile 5 user. Would that camera and lens combo be great on my EVO 3D? Sure it would but a couple things, I suspect, would have to go.
The 3VO takes just good enough impromptu snapshots for me. If I want keepers, my Nikon D2X and 17-55 mm lens fits that bill.
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Who carries their camera around with them everywhere? I'd love it if my phone took great pics. Hopefully we're almost there.
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Who carries their camera around with them everywhere? I'd love it if my phone took great pics. Hopefully we're almost there.
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Well, it is never going to. If you shoehorn a DX/FX size sensor into a phone, you still need the optics to capture that light. At which point you won't carry your phone around with you because the lens won't fit into your pocket.
BTW, if we were to compare the intent of the photos regardless of capture device, they would be subpar. That is, the photographer attempted to do serious macro and landscape work. If we were to judge the photos strictly on that, then they are subpar. But for a camera phone they are good. So what I am trying to say, professional photographs still need professional gear.
Those pics were very impressive. It would be nice if HTC put in camera's of this quality, but the pics the Evo 3d takes are good enough for me.
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Well, it is never going to. If you shoehorn a DX/FX size sensor into a phone, you still need the optics to capture that light. At which point you won't carry your phone around with you because the lens won't fit into your pocket.
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I said good, not professional. That Nokia camera seems to take the sort of shots I desire.
Anyway, I wouldn't say "never" -- who thought 5 years ago you'd have a phone with 3D capabilities?
Im pretty satisfied with the E3d camera, I give it a 7/10. Of course it could be better but it has exceeded my expectations and is a huge improvement over the E4g camera. Those Nokia pics are really good.
@dfin13 Five years ago I never thought I'd be streaming movies in 1080p on my phone. I think I was using a moto razr V3m, sidekick 3 and then a blackberry Pearl that year.
I've been getting photos pretty close to that good with the Evo 3D. Maybe not quite as shallow DOF but just as sharp. I'll try to post some another day. No time today.
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I said good, not professional. That Nokia camera seems to take the sort of shots I desire.
Anyway, I wouldn't say "never" -- who thought 5 years ago you'd have a phone with 3D capabilities?
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Well I await the day they can change the physics of light and/or how we can capture it. I suspect I will be long gone.
As an aside, a gratuitous unnecessary shot at wedding photographers: If they can get that Nokia to sync to off camera flash, they then will be in heaven. Wedding photogs don't need detail, they apply 20 percent Gaussian blur to everything anyway. With a camera phone they can "connect" with their client even more.
Ducks head, as the lone wedding photog in the forum takes aim..
If I were to be in an exotic place, I'd certainly be using my dslr and not my phone.
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Well I await the day they can change the physics of light and/or how we can capture it. I suspect I will be long gone.
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I eagerly await that day then.
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I eagerly await that day then.
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Pretty sure you'll be long gone too, be careful what you wish for.
Nokia's phones are GREAT shooters. Probably the best when it comes to cameras on a cellphone.
HTC needs to step their game up. Half of it is software, and that sucks. I'm content with it, but a lot of things could be improved.
Get the app "Vignette" if you really want to take some great pictures.
I have had the Photon for a couple of weeks now. It is rooted and I mostly love it. However, I think the camera is substandard......or mine is defective? When in camera mode and I'm just looking at the video on the screen (viewfinder), there is a lot of video noise, especially around the edges. The resultant picture is "grainy" looking. Is this normal? Is there an app that can help clean this up? I want to love this thing completely, but the camera is not even close to the quality of my old Epic. I'm beginning to wonder if I should trade it for the new SII, but I hate to.....
Really? I thought it was pretty good compared to my evo 4G and 3D.