[Q] questions about sense bloat - HTC EVO 3D

I've read a number of general complaints about sense being bloated and unremovable but would like to understand what device resources are unavoidably consumed by it.
If it's just storage space I'm not too concered about that. But taking up RAM with programs/features I don't want is another matter, as is any wasted CPU-cycles it might spend automatically running programs in the background, or intercepting UI events.
I ask this without knowing specifically what in sense is believed to be bloated. Is there a way to see a list of things it runs or could run, and to disable each feature I don't want? Again, I don't mind if the unwanted programs remain in storage, as long as they are never run and thus don't consume RAM/CPU.
When I watch videos of the G2X, it's mind-boggling how fast every aspect of the UI is. What is sense doing that keeps the evo 3d / sensation from achieving the same level of snappiness? I have a hard time believing excessive RAM-usage or CPU even is playing any role in simply scrolling through the tray of apps. So what is it that affects things like simple scrolling speed there?
I'm guessing android has some kind of event handling, where every event is delivered to a list of programs that each decide if they want to do anything with the event or not, and maybe sense has programs registered all over the place to receive all kinds of events. This is wild speculation on my part as I'm not that familiar with how things really work, but when scrolling through apps in the app tray is slow, something besides simple resource consumption must be going on.
Anyway my general questions are: what makes it slow, and can 'it' be removed, whatever 'it' is.

I don't know where u got the idea that the evo 3d us slow..must of been in a gs2 forum..I happen to enjoy sense..and once you root you can
remove any bs..I have an evo 4g and have no lag whatsoever..don't listen to the evo 3d haters..everyone takes shots at the best

Sense is a skin.
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novanosis85 said:
Sense is a skin.
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It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.

donatom3 said:
It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.
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sense has skins...

donatom3 said:
It's more than a skin. If it was just a skin many things that only work on ASOP would work on Sense too.
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Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.
CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.
So pick one.
1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.
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novanosis85 said:
Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.
CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.
So pick one.
1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.
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Adw is highly customizable. How can you say it's ugly? SMH
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Ugly betty lol..I've always use sense Roms but after hearing about cm7 being so great o gave it a shot..I didn't like it at all and I didn't notice a.speed increase comings from kings unleashed..I thought it was plain..maybe I just didn't put enough time.into figuring it out...but I do enjoy sense UI..even if it is a large file

novanosis85 said:
Oh right. Sense is a launcher that is stunning.
CM7 comes with ADW WHICH is a launcher that is not sexy.
So pick one.
1.Sexy Sense
2. Ugly betty.
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You do know the bluetooth stack in sense doesn't let you use things like wiimote, or bluetooth mouse? Those are some of the things I was referring to. Sense is more than a launcher and skin. It is a UI framework that does affect some core Android functions.
EDIT: BTW I never meant to start a war of Sense vs ASOP, I was just pointing out the misinformation that Sense is a skin, when it's more than skin deep.

firmbiz94 said:
Ugly betty lol..I've always use sense Roms but after hearing about cm7 being so great o gave it a shot..I didn't like it at all and I didn't notice a.speed increase comings from kings unleashed..I thought it was plain..maybe I just didn't put enough time.into figuring it out...but I do enjoy sense UI..even if it is a large file
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Me too, always thought CM was over rated, I mean no disrespect, but Sense UI is hands down the best for Android.
Vanilla / stock Android feels like its still on 1.5 release. The dialer and contacts and e-mail all feel lacking something.
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Maybe I've been Sense-less for too long, but I definitely prefer CM. At first I felt it wasn't as good either, but once you play with it more its sooo much better imo
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nosfanatic2006 said:
Maybe I've been Sense-less for too long, but I definitely prefer CM. At first I felt it wasn't as good either, but once you play with it more its sooo much better imo
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+1 totally agree, once I got into really core customization of my EVO, I saw what Sense was lacking. Don't get me wrong Sense is nice for eye candy, but CM is easier to work with for deeper customization. Once again it all comes down to personal preference. Although I'm looking forward to playing with the new Sense 3.0 lockscreen.

Stability>customization
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HTC sense and ics.

So since ics has basically almost everything sense has. I wonder what htc will add to sense. What do you guys think? They might have to come out with something really new , like a new feature to make people want to buy a phone with ics sense. I love sense so maybe the collaboration will be awesome! For the people waiting for an official update it might be awhile till they cook sense into it. But we'll see what happens.
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I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
I want to see a mix of both (Sense fanboy) but I want to see more theme's from HTC via HTC Hub.
I like the Music Sense Theme but they need others, none of the themes from Sense 2.1 are available on 3.x. :/ I was digging the wood theme.
What I want to see a new Sense 4.x/ICS combo:
Integrate Foursquare & Google+ API into FriendStream
Add more cloud/network features to HTCSense.com (Think MIQ/Dashwire)
Sense Updater/Rollback/Remove options
Voice Changer (Tiny (chipmunk) to Deep (Vader)) Kinda like on the PS3.
Font Changer
Deeper weather options
Better HDMI out options
More connected Media features
NFC SD card support
More HTC Hub content
Uninstallable HTC Sense components
Noiro said:
I want to see a mix of both (Sense fanboy) but I want to see more theme's from HTC via HTC Hub.
I like the Music Sense Theme but they need others, none of the themes from Sense 2.1 are available on 3.x. :/ I was digging the wood theme.
What I want to see a new Sense 4.x/ICS combo:
Integrate Foursquare & Google+ API into FriendStream
Add more cloud/network features to HTCSense.com (Think MIQ/Dashwire)
Sense Updater/Rollback/Remove options
Voice Changer (Tiny (chipmunk) to Deep (Vader)) Kinda like on the PS3.
Font Changer
Deeper weather options yes.
Better HDMI out options
More connected Media features
NFC SD card support
More HTC Hub content
Uninstallable HTC Sense components
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You have some good ideas. Mostly sounds like you enjoy the widgets which is what i think everyone can agree on. As far as launcher and look go. I like the way ics is outta the box.
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freeza said:
I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
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LOL, best not bet any money on that one. Sense will be Sense, I predict. I am hoping HTC can bring themselves to at least keep ICS's configurable dock, though.
freeza said:
I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
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Yes the green version looks awsome
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freeza said:
I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
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Now, come on. You know it will have sense. Likely 3.0, it does not seem like they make a habit of updating sense in a phone that has been out.
The EVO Shift had just that when it was upgraded to Gingerbread.
From Froyo with Sense 1.x to Gingerbread with Sense 2.1.
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freeza said:
I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
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It's absolutely going to be Sense. There is no doubt about that, regardless of our opinions on Sense (and I happen to disagree with you) HTC won't let go of one of the biggest end-user differentiation that their handsets across the range carry (excluding the Nexus One, of course)
Theres gonna be so much Sense that its not funny.
Temari x Shikamaru
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...-ultra-thin-ice-cream-sandwich-and-sense-4-0/
Lulz
I wouldn't mind skins being available but I think they'll use most of ics with sense colors.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...-ultra-thin-ice-cream-sandwich-and-sense-4-0/
Lulz
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Man I'm gonna miss the buttons. Would think that if they ditch the buttons that they would extend the screen down over where they would be so we don't lose any actual useable screen space compared to what we have now....
What's funny is the one you linked to which has dual core shows no buttons but the quad core one has em....
http://m.bgr.com/2011/11/09/htc-edge-may-launch-in-march-or-april-featuring-android-4-0-tegra-3/
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This no button technology is paving the way to a more advanced society. Now can we get some teleporters and ditch vehicles?
Temari x Shikamaru
Buttons are so last year.
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Buttons are so last year.
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+1
Less drivers and hardware configs to worry about.
freeza said:
I just hope to God HTC doesn't plaster their hideous outdated looking theme all over ICS. PLEASE stick to the stock ICS look.
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That's what cm 8 is for....my thought. I like sense...but it's getting to damn bloated.
life64x said:
That's what cm 8 is for....my thought. I like sense...but it's getting to damn bloated.
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Its cm9. Cm8 would have been honeycomb.
Temari x Shikamaru
Seriously guys??
by the time HTC gets around to releasing ics with sense, we will have already had a fully functioning port of ICS for quit a while. Not the other way around. You dont have to wait for the sense version.
LiquidSolstice said:
It's absolutely going to be Sense. There is no doubt about that, regardless of our opinions on Sense (and I happen to disagree with you) HTC won't let go of one of the biggest end-user differentiation that their handsets across the range carry (excluding the Nexus One, of course)
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I don't think he was sauntered he hopes it doesn't have sense, but rather that he hoes it's not the same old sense theme and look that we're accustomed to
tapa tapa tapa

Info on Sense 4.0 which will be atop 4.0.3

http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\
New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
That sounds awesome...though I really hope they keep the menu button with the capacitive buttons, I would really miss that...
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http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\
New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
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thanks for the site..
this is the best feature for me on sense 4.0
*Beats Audio profile updated to work with third party applications*
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
a.mcdear said:
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
Marine6680 said:
Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
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Exactly.
Sense is far too intensive on the CPU.
a.mcdear said:
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
i think people need to stop complaining and/or stfu about sense already, it's getting old. we get it, you don't like sense. hooray for you. it seems the new "hip" thing to do is hate on sense, seriously. it's so god damn annoying to read. sense isn't going anywhere, so get over it. motoblur isn't going anywhere, and neither is any other manufactorers OS. stock android is ugly as sin, and ICS looks like a toy. atleast sense is going to bring visual appeal to ICS, whereas comparing ICS to iOS makes the nexus look like a toy.
tl;dr: shut up about sense, it's not going anywhere, and it's annoying to constantly read peoples hatred towards it. get over it.
MrSmith317 said:
I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
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Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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I don't do hostile posts. I test everything because I like to play with it all. Can't say I don't like something if I never laid eyes/hands on it. Since I do theme and support work, I switch between sense'd and non-sense'd quite often.
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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Agreed! As it may be intrusive, it's still the best! This phone has been running great for me!
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I am new to Xda and HTC phones myself and I do like sense. The short time I have been on this site, I have noticed and strangely I might add. People seem to get way to hostile over the Sense vs Asop debate. People have different tastes and what they like and its just as much their choice as anything so why be condescending or hostile over their choice.
The reason I bought the rezound myself was hardware or I would have gotten the Gnex , because I like to mod and play around with different roms. Sense was a bonus for me , because to me its just a theme I can flash or not
Mr Smith is nothing , but courteous and helpful in the 2 forums I have been on so no reason to drag his choice into the debate.
android is about choice. thats why it is different from all other brands/os.
the software can always be changed/rewritten, but you are stuck with the hardware.
like mrsmith i choose my phones based on hardware. i also happen to like sense so that i why i went with the rezound.
thats not so sat that i don like asop. i ran CM7 on my TB for that past 3 months, sense simply has more "polish" and "eye camdy" that i enjoy
personally i hope sense slims down a bit and some of the bloat and useless apps disappear, but finally they realize that beats audio should work for third party apps.
once my rezound is outdated, i will most likely end up with another HTC phone and it will be a 1.5 ghz quad core, 1 GB ram, 8/3 mp camera 10 mm thick sense 4.0 android 4.0 powered monster
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
EmerikL said:
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
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so your friends do that too huh...
I think all of us have friends like that.
Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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username235 said:
Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I'm on this phone because it is the best phone on the market right now. It doesn't matter to me one bit what comes on the phone (Sense, blur, touchwiz, etc) except that sometimes (as it was with the Rezound initially) its impossibly hard to get rid of.
Now that I have removed like 95% of Sense/HTC related software from the system, installed my launcher of preference, I am extremely happy with my phone and battery life. I'm so glad I didn't get anything else on the market right now.
So there you have it... I picked out this phone because of the phone, not because of the manufacturer or whatever crap bloatware that particular manufacturer decided to burden us with. And just cause other people are sick of reading about how crappy Sense is does not mean I'm going to like it anymore or withhold my thoughts on the subject for their benefit. Negative reviews of a product are just as important as positive reviews.
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Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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While if I'm wrong it'd be awesome, but I think that's a typo, it'll probably be 5GB, to compete with apple's 5GB of free iCloud.

Sense 4.0

I saw on Twitter today that Sense 4.0 leaked out. Is that what Htc is putting in the official Rezound ICS build?
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Yes the official ICS Build is supposed to have Sense 4.0
Whose twitter did you see this in?
Wait a second. So your saying that HTC Rezound will be jumping from sense 3.5 GB to sense 4.0 ICS. The sense 3.6 ICS leak we have know is not going to be part of the Rezound.
It was either phonearena or phonescoop..
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...p-notch-email-and-Dropbox-integration_id26334
on phonearena...
HTC Sense 4.0 leaks out: simplified, better typography, top-notch email and Dropbox integration - http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...p-notch-email-and-Dropbox-integration_id26334
mrbracht beat me to it. LOL. nevermind
HI
ive summed up all the new features of the new Sense 4.0... just follow the link at my signature.
have a great day!
This looks amazing, I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Just keep the stoopid locked Google bars off the top of each page and massive navigation buttons off the bottom. I know this stuff can be avoided via root but I want to decide when to do it.
The gnex reminded me in a way of Starcraft 1. Half the screen was UI....way too much wasted space.
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Just keep the stoopid locked Google bars off the top of each page and massive navigation buttons off the bottom. I know this stuff can be avoided via root but I want to decide when to do it.
The gnex reminded me in a way of Starcraft 1. Half the screen was UI....way too much wasted space.
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The Rezound won't get those on screen buttons because it already has the red touch buttons on the bottom.
The article posted also said HTC is not using the on screen buttons.
For the amount of bloat sense puts on the phone I have always liked it. But I do love the UI of the Nexus. I would love to see the new sense use UI similar to that.
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I do love the UI of the Nexus. I would love to see the new sense use UI similar to that.
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You and me both but it'll never happen, the Sense UI as we know it is a huge selling point I'm sure for the more inexperienced users.
I also read tho that Google is requiring manufacturers to keep the default ics GUI if they do skins. So we might have an option to disable sense and use aosp.
I don't remember the link off hand, lemme dig it up.
Edit: straight from Google:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/holo-everywhere.html?m=1
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I also read tho that Google is requiring manufacturers to keep the default ics GUI if they do skins. So we might have an option to disable sense and use aosp.
I don't remember the link off hand, lemme dig it up.
Edit: straight from Google:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/01/holo-everywhere.html?m=1
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I've heard this but I doubt we'll ever get an option to turn off sense although it would be so easy, these OEM skins are their pride and joys.
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I've heard this but I doubt we'll ever get an option to turn off sense although it would be so easy, these OEM skins are their pride and joys.
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And the exact reason I wanted to gnex to be a good phone. I prefer vanilla android. Sense is nice, but I have grown a taste for vanilla.
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HTC Sense 4.0 leak video!! Much Sense love within!!!

With all the great devs here, I'm sure we'll have this soon enough!! Check it!
New location. Grab it while it's hot!
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ville-caught-on-video-with-sense-4-0-31211379/
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-ville-caught-video#comment-368166
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Urgh, they just couldn't get rid of it, could they?
Gross. AOSP, please.
Still choppy crap.
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Urgh, they just couldn't get rid of it, could they?
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Myn's Warm clock mod anybody?? Gotta have the clock and weather widge!!
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Yeah not digging it myself
I'm living on a yellow submarine
Damn looks nice. Can't wait for that, and I wonder what the final will look like, with 4.0.3. And just ignore all these guys, ruining the fun of our HTC sense phone.
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Wow what's with all the sense haters
doesn't look that much different than Sense 3.5 on ICS that we already have - just some different menu transitions
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Damn looks nice. Can't wait for that, and I wonder what the final will look like, with 4.0.3. And just ignore all these guys, ruining the fun of our HTC sense phone.
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No bother. This vid made my morning!
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Video set to private
Sorry if I just came out of nowhere to the Rezound forums but I got out of my Sprint Evo3D contract of 3 months to come to Verizon and the Rezound. Just incase you all wonder "who the heck is this guy"
Yeah guys they took down the video..sucks...
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Come on, you really think a video like this would leak without people making backups first?
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ville-caught-on-video-with-sense-4-0-31211379/
After watching this... HTC did too much with Sense. They're just overdoing it now. Give me a slice of AOSP and we're good here.
It's also still up on Droidforums.net .. at least I just watched it there a few minutes ago.
I think it looks good personally, but I am coming from the OG droid so Sense is basically like a theme to me and I haven't noticed any lag compared to the slowness of my droid so its all good.
They just took it down at Droidforums.net as well
Get a htc phone and hate on sense...makes a lot of sense..
I used to love sense, but using ics launcher and stuff, sense 4.0 looks bloated and ugly...
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Get a htc phone and hate on sense...makes a lot of sense..
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LOL, that always cracks me up....
WTF are people *****ing about?? I like Sense & the widgets myself, but if you don't like it instead of *****ing about it why not just run LPP+ or ADWLauncher EX etc. since all the launchers run great on the Rezound.
There are plenty of Senseless ROM options available also if you really hate it......
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LOL, that always cracks me up....
WTF are people *****ing about?? I like Sense & the widgets myself, but if you don't like it instead of *****ing about it why not just run LPP+ or ADWLauncher EX etc. since all the launchers run great on the Rezound.
There are plenty of Senseless ROM options available also if you really hate it......
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I must agree! A lot of Sense bashing in a Sense forum.... I always have loved Sense! I've tried them all... Still the best.
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I must agree! A lot of Sense bashing in a Sense forum.... I always have loved Sense! I've tried them all... Still the best.
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LOL, since when was this a Sense forum? Anyway, Sense 4.0 looks a lot like 3.6 but with custom transitions and things filling in the obvious gaps from Sense 3.6. Still not worth the CPU/memory hit in my opinion but to each their own.
MrSmith317 said:
LOL, since when was this a Sense forum? Anyway, Sense 4.0 looks a lot like 3.6 but with custom transitions and things filling in the obvious gaps from Sense 3.6. Still not worth the CPU/memory hit in my opinion but to each their own.
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Uhh since when??
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MrSmith317 said:
LOL, since when was this a Sense forum? Anyway, Sense 4.0 looks a lot like 3.6 but with custom transitions and things filling in the obvious gaps from Sense 3.6. Still not worth the CPU/memory hit in my opinion but to each their own.
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It's a sense thread. The topic is Sense 4.0
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Sense 5 opinions

How do you guys like it? I'm still tempted to go bareback and toss sense out. I gave it a shot, awesome job guys, but don't like how it wants to stuff facebook in my face all the time. If there is a way to reorganize the main page I haven't seen it. Ended up nandroiding back to meanbean 3.09 for now. Runs slick as glass. If I download and install the bareback superlte does that include the camera drivers so there is no loss in quality/functionality?
Also what is svn lol. I just downloaded the sense 5 port directly to my phone and flashed it, s-off, but I keep reading Bout svn. Is that update software? With meanbean I just used the ota updater.
Sorry kinda new
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I absolutely love it.
I don't use Facebook either, so I froze it using app quarantine from the play store and it doesn't pop up anywhere anymore.
Svn is a way to get the latest updates without having to download the whole file. It downloads only the parts that have been updated reducing download time.
You also get downloads in advance.
Switching main screen is in the pinch on home screen widgets layout. You hold the screen you want selected in that window and drag it to main.
I love sense 5. Smoothest ROM I've ever had, especially with the arc reactor kernel.
I currently also have a 7582 quadrant score because of the ROM.
Turtlesvn is a svn client (I think that's its name) from there follow the thread listed about svn to get it set up.
I will never go back to sense 4.5 or aosp, they are farrrrr behind sense 5 and I know when you get it figured out you will agree.
Have fun!
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Also for the camera. Freeze it an app quarantine. Use extrims camera from themes and apps. Gives you sense 4.5 camera back until camera is fully functional.
Also. I haven't tested this as I'm still playing with sense 5 it should work tho
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Thanks for the peptalk I need it! Ill wait a few weeks until things get ironed out, maybe try will release sense 5 on their own LOL.
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svn is a version control system that developers use to check in their code. It allows other devs to pull the changes down to their machines to make sure they're working with the latest files. The sense 5 repository is public, so anyone can pull down the files needed to flash the rom, but it's still intended more for the developers.
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I love Sense 5. Personally, I think it's the best thing to happen to Sense. It feels like Cyanogenmod and HTC had a baby. It's zippy, it's smart, it's gorgeous to look at, and it's simple (For some people, too simple lol http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-sense-5-app-drawer-making-simple-complicated )
Link feed is pretty neat I have to say. I can't wait for a working gallery so I can see in person how the zoe moments work. And I can't wait to see how the devs theme it.
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I think it's the best version of sense yet. I hate sense and only used it when I needed to do something that wasn't working in AOSP, AOKP, etc. Sense 5 is actually very handy and flexible. The development of the port seems to be coming along very nicely and my hat's of to all of them!
Also, igotlostintampa has done a kicka$$ job of putting together a great FAQ that has helped me greatly in getting this to be a DD.
Darealboot said:
Link feed is pretty neat I have to say. I can't wait for a working gallery so I can see in person how the zoe moments work. And I can't wait to see how the devs theme it.
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Gallery is working.
HTC Zoe is a Camera feature.
I definitely like it. My only complaint is I can't set blink feed as a "middle" panel for a home screen with pages to the left and right of it.
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Sense 5 is the first OEM skin I've ever used that I feel is as cohesive and attractive as stock Android. It's better than Touchwiz, better than not-Blur, better than Optimus UI, and most importantly, WAY better than any prior version of Sense. I think I've finally found an AOSP replacement. I was actually planning to buy an Optimus G on eBay and sell this phone, but Sense 5 has convinced me to stick with the Evo. Using Arc Reactor kernel 0.41 (1.7) along with Sense 5, this phone is pretty close to the G performance-wise despite only having 2 CPU cores.
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I like it but Im still waiting for a desensed version.
I mostly use nova or chameleon laubcher so I just like it for the pretty menus and functionality lol
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Then why not just install Nova and set it as default launcher?
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jesuscash said:
I like it but Im still waiting for a desensed version.
I mostly use nova or chameleon laubcher so I just like it for the pretty menus and functionality lol
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Maybe ill hook that up tonight. I planned on doing it but i didnt expect to like this how it is as much as i do.
scottspa74 said:
Then why not just install Nova and set it as default launcher?
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I don't like flashing ports lol
Viper rom is working fine for me atm and I can wait for sense 5 (whenever that may me) so I'll just be patient :beer:
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I initially said I liked Sense 5, but have since changed my mind. I don't like the blink feed being forced on me. I can't remove it nor can I change what page it is. I feel as if HTC just watered Sense down. It is very light. Not so much a UI anymore, buy more of a skin or theme similar to Touchwiz. I know this move will be praised by some, but if you're a fan of Sense, you might be disappointed as I am. I like the Sense widgets. Now they are either watered down to look more AOSP or simply gone. No HTC bookmarks, no HTC Music. Calendar looks weak. I keep flashing the newest daily in an attempt to like it (as this is the future) but I keep coming back to my nandroid. I give the Devs all the respect in the world and this rant is in no way a reflection of my thoughts to their hard work to bring the port to us. I'm grateful to have the ability to try it.
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Love Sense 5. I'm really excited for the One now.
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mulhiny said:
I initially said I liked Sense 5, but have since changed my mind. I don't like the blink feed being forced on me. I can't remove it nor can I change what page it is. I feel as if HTC just watered Sense down. It is very light. Not so much a UI anymore, buy more of a skin or theme similar to Touchwiz. I know this move will be praised by some, but if you're a fan of Sense, you might be disappointed as I am. I like the Sense widgets. Now they are either watered down to look more AOSP or simply gone. No HTC bookmarks, no HTC Music. Calendar looks weak. I keep flashing the newest daily in an attempt to like it (as this is the future) but I keep coming back to my nandroid. I give the Devs all the respect in the world and this rant is in no way a reflection of my thoughts to their hard work to bring the port to us. I'm grateful to have the ability to try it.
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I completely agree about the widgets. They look like crap. Blinkfeed you can edit to exclude a bunch of junk. Back on the widgets, gonna buy android pro widgets, I need the agenda view on the calendar widget
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OK. Back to AOKP for me. Tried it for about 2hrs to check it out, and the devs have done an amazing job, but sense is still painful compared to AOKP to me. HTC did do better with multitasking, a lot (unless it was the wicked xda devs that fixed that). Still, sense is too blocky and in my face for me to use.
That said, there were a few cool new features, like if you have a contact that is Google and Facebook , sense gives you option to pick which icon pic. Cool, but doesn't stand a chance against AOKP/Rootbox/slim bean/CM.
Wish I knew what all the sense users see. Hell, there's not even an email widget (which 4.1.2+ has now).
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I need the Bluetooth and I can test for more than the weekend
Good for Sat and Sun
Smooth and fast
If you got the Bluetooth fix hit me up
Jbruks
scottspa74 said:
OK. Back to AOKP for me. Tried it for about 2hrs to check it out, and the devas have done an amazing job, but scene it still painful compared to AOKP to me. HTC did do better with multitasking, a lot (unless it was the wicked xda devas that fixed that). Still, sense is too blocky and in my face for me to use.
That said, there were a fee cool new features, like if you have a contact that is Google and Facebook , sense gives you option to pick which icon pic. Cool, but doesn't stand a chance against AOKP/Rootbox/slim bean/CM.
Wish I knee what all the sense users see. Hell, there's not even an email widget (which 4.1.2+ has now).
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I want to move AOSP full time but I can never get mms, mms over WiFi and gps to work as well as sense can.
I love the theme chooser and wish I knew had to port some of those themes over to sense. Much more involved than doing an image replacement in winrar.
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