Is it better to wipe from phone settings or from recovery menu?
What are the differences?
I want to wipe phone, because I installed too much crap and some of it can't be uninstalled and some apps I don't use some apps that I've installed because "maybe they come in handy".
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I like to wipe from recovery
Wiping from settings will delete all third party apps and data on the phone without any user error in the wiping process. Within recovery you may choose what to wipe but may accidentally wipe something such as your SD card by accident.
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Just to be awkward, I'm going to throw a third option at you:
From a Samsung phone, you can dial :
*#*#7780#*#*
To perform full wipe/factory reset.
It is important to note that using this, or selecting reset from the menu is effectively the same thing as using recovery anyway, as all it will do is boot into recovery and wipe the data/cache.
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Hello guys,
My question is what the usefull solution for backup and restore the rom? CWM backup / restore seems not really working well. Xda and custom rom's dev always remind to make a backup, but when u face a problem after flashing rom, you cannot access CWM if you got bootloop, then how to restore? And if you dont like the custom rom that you just flashed for some reason, you might want to restore back to your 'fav' rom.. but unfortunately it's not work as you thought. Sometimes restore failed. Im looking the solution for this..
-restore / backup anywhere without using pc.
-not reflash the rom, this will need to customize it again.. Hassle.
-any android app or android system ability to handle this. If CWM can handle this, then tell me how to restore when u got bootloop and cannot access the recovery mod.
-if there's any other app or method, please suggest them to me.
Any help or idea will be appreciated. Thanks.
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When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
nandroid backup is the best
You can always restore the rom when you can access the recovery mod. If you are a flasholic, you cant escape from bootloop and no recovery mod. My odin binary counter now up to 539.. Nandroid backup sometimes got problem.. Let say i made a backup a checkrom, the i flashed miui, suddenly miui got problem, and i get into recoverymod to restore back my checkrom.. When u done restoring, you will be in checkrom but this time its got many problems. Flashing compatible kernel will not solve the problem. The only solution fot me is to reflash it again.
Im not looking for this way, reflash the rom is hassle, sometimes u got bootloop and cant access recovery, then u need to get back home to use computer with odin to flash only kernel.
What else backup method other than nandroid backup.
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cooza said:
When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
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How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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neobirdrio said:
How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
cooza said:
Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
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Ahaaa! Your description attract me, i think you're right, base on the way you explained about full wipe does make sense to me. The real interpretation of 'full wipe' is including formatting the system?
Maybe I'm doing it wrong here, flashing another rom on top of another. What usually i did is 'full wipe'... This is my step :
1 - clear data/factory reset
2 - clear cache
3 - advance > clear dalvik cache
4 - flash new rom
This is what i did, i didn't format anything as you mentioned above. Is your full wipe method lead to 'fresh install'? Well buddy, could you please note down your full wipe method step by step including format the system? Which step should i do 1st and what step next? Could you?
Thanks, highly appreciated.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Omg! I thought you not gonna reply me anymore. Dude, i even copy and paste the whole texts in my note app as my reference on the future. I highly appreciated for your efforts into this. Thanks for those details.
Check your PM.
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Wasnt going to leave out in the cold mate,was just a bit busy.Thanks for the PM.Glad I could help
I'm selling my phone and wonder if a full wipe will take out the rom too. Any takers on this noob question?
No, a full wipe will erase only the apps installed (and its data too), but the cROM will persist.
Thanks for the help, Rober
select mounts and storages and wipe(format) system.
that depends on the rom really. Doing a factory reset on some custom rooms will clause a boot loop as it removes some files need for the rom. Best bet would be to do a full wipe and reinstall the rom before you reboot.
Hello, if i do a reset inside the OS, will this wipe and delete the cache same way as a hard reset with the physical buttons?
Yes. But both do not only delete the cache but everything on your phone's internal storage.
It's noteworthy that CWM (the alternative Recovery) keeps the /sdcard folder intact
d4fseeker said:
Yes. But both do not only delete the cache but everything on your phone's internal storage.
It's noteworthy that CWM (the alternative Recovery) keeps the /sdcard folder intact
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So if i understand this right, both ways, like, the usual inside the android OS itself, on the S3, or the reset trough physical buttons, both delete the cache aswell?
can someone please explain a full wipe - when asked in a rom thread that you need to do a full wipe. what is that?
do you do it in CWM only, no where else?
- wipe data/factory reset then
- wipe cache partition then
- wipe dalvick cache
that's it? that's considered a full wipe? because I was reading and something said if coming over to xxxx rom from aokp do a full wipe.
tbh I've already changed roms but I hard bricked my last phone not knowing things like this. lol
thanks
entwicklun said:
can someone please explain a full wipe - when asked in a rom thread that you need to do a full wipe. what is that?
do you do it in CWM only, no where else?
- wipe data/factory reset then
- wipe cache partition then
- wipe dalvick cache
that's it? that's considered a full wipe? because I was reading and something said if coming over to xxxx rom from aokp do a full wipe.
tbh I've already changed roms but I hard bricked my last phone not knowing things like this. lol
thanks
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Yes that is a full wipe, but "wipe data/factory reset" is enough, no need for the other two.
Also if you just flash a wrong rom, I doubt your last phone is hard bricked. You can donate it to me.
thanks for the answer.
with my galaxy note I installed a stock ss firmware via odin, installed CWM and then flashed aosp without wiping or anything. phone couldn't get into recovery, download or turn on. jigs didn't work and a shop also couldn't get it back into download or recovery.
so no signs of life, I've already sent it overseas for warranty, sorry mate
I ended up getting an s3 till note2 comes out. but I heard the note2 will only have 512mbs of more ram than the s3, and it won't be quadcore. if these are true I'll probably torch all my samsung devices and get apple products -_-
Assuming my Galaxy Note II phone has been unlocked successfully, if I do a factory reset to upgrade to note2_JellyBeans_B8.zip:
YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED
Step 1-
Wipe Data Factory Reset!
Step 2-
Wipe davlick cache
Step 3-
install zip and pick your options
Step 4-
Reboot and enjoy!
wouldn't this restore the phone back to stock?? Or is it just the bootloader partition that is left alone when you do a factory reset? Also, the instructions were not too clear when it mentions: "install zip and pick your options". Do I unzip the file and pick something in the install folder? A tad confused here...
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Assuming my Galaxy Note II phone has been unlocked successfully, if I do a factory reset to upgrade to note2_JellyBeans_B8.zip:
YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED
Step 1-
Wipe Data Factory Reset!
Step 2-
Wipe davlick cache
Step 3-
install zip and pick your options
Step 4-
Reboot and enjoy!
wouldn't this restore the phone back to stock?? Or is it just the bootloader partition that is left alone when you do a factory reset? Also, the instructions were not too clear when it mentions: "install zip and pick your options". Do I unzip the file and pick something in the install folder? A tad confused here...
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You want to wipe system, factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Factory reset will wipe data like Google account and apps and such.
Then the ROM installs with aroma which loads up a GUI that let's you choose what you want. Can choose apps installed clock location how many widgets you show at the top what kernel you run etc. Literally flash the zip and you'll understand.
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You want to wipe system, factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Factory reset will wipe data like Google account and apps and such.
Then the ROM installs with aroma which loads up a GUI that let's you choose what you want. Can choose apps installed clock location how many widgets you show at the top what kernel you run etc. Literally flash the zip and you'll understand.
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Thanks. I am not sure how to "wipe system", but I read how to factory reset and clear dalvik cache. Also not sure how to load the jellybeans ROM(do I mount it.. is it an .iso? etc.)... lots of reading to do. Ty for the input m8.
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Thanks. I am not sure how to "wipe system", but I read how to factory reset and clear dalvik cache. Also not sure how to load the jellybeans ROM(do I mount it.. is it an .iso? etc.)... lots of reading to do. Ty for the input m8.
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If youre using TWRP click wipe, then factory reset, swipe to do so, then cache same way, then dalvik.
To flash rom click the install tab, find the rom, make sure you tell it to look at the internal or external at the top and find the rom, then swipe to flash it
sidenote: factory reset clears data, which is what most people do. system wipe actually clears out the partition where the rom is, in other words the phone will not reboot until youve flashed a rom to it
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Thanks. I am not sure how to "wipe system", but I read how to factory reset and clear dalvik cache. Also not sure how to load the jellybeans ROM(do I mount it.. is it an .iso? etc.)... lots of reading to do. Ty for the input m8.
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Put the ROM on your phone and go to the install section of your recovery (You must boot into recovery by holding power, home, and volume up while turning on your phone) and flash it from there.
Joshina said:
Put the ROM on your phone and go to the install section of your recovery (You must boot into recovery by holding power, home, and volume up while turning on your phone) and flash it from there.
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My phone is now unlocked + jailbroken after following instructions from CASUAL. No issues.
When u say put the rom in your phone. U mean my SD card? Per littleguevara's post:
"To flash rom click the install tab, find the rom, make sure you tell it to look at the internal or external at the top and find the rom, then swipe to flash it
sidenote: factory reset clears data, which is what most people do. system wipe actually clears out the partition where the rom is, in other words the phone will not reboot until youve flashed a rom to it" <----- if the phone is wiped then everything is gone so I can't put the jellybeans rom there.
Also from "Originally Posted by nosympathy
You want to wipe system, factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Factory reset will wipe data like Google account and apps and such"
Will I be able to wipe cache and dalvik cache WHILE in recovery mode? I just want to be as proactive as possible and avoid being reactive to anything that comes my way that I am not aware of. I believe I already have TWRP (i saw their logo while jailbreaking).. Any input is appreciated m8.
I have a question that must be obvious to many but I don't know the answer and am curious.
Right now I am rooted and if I want to install a new rom I do the factory reset and wipe caches in recovery and then install the custom rom.
What happens if
1. I do this reset and clear caches within recovery and just reboot without installing a rom?
2. What happens if I do a factory reset with settings?
I know the phone will start in setup mode but will it have the last rom I installed or what?
If you're wiping system too, then the phone won't boot - except to recovery if you tell it to. If you're not wiping system but you're wiping data, then the phone will boot but be like you just installed it new for the first time and you have to set it up.
I'm not positive what Factory Reset within settings will do, if it works or not, when you have a custom recovery installed. Normally under a completely stock ROM with stock recovery, Factory Reset from Settings or from the stock recovery would wipe everything but system. It wipes Data, Cache, Dalvik, and internal storage. You can achieve the same thing from custom recovery if you wish to. And yes, as long as you didn't wipe System, the last ROM you had installed would boot.
Doing a factory reset from settings with twrp installed should be like doing a factory reset in twrp. TWRP will takeover when the phone restarts to do the factory reset. At least that is how it was with my Moto X phones. I've done it with Jasmine on my G3, but don't remember the outcome. It was only a few days ago too. Lol. I'm a retard.
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