I'm running Gingervitis, just flashed it a couple days ago. So far I really like it but I'm noticeing some battery issues. Not sure if it's due to the ROM itself, gingerbread, or my phone.
First, it seems like the battery drain is a lot quicker that when I was running Froyo. Doesn't bother me as much I guess.
Last night I plugged my phone in at about 2:00 AM. It was at about 20%. It is now 9:30 and it is at 8:00 is was at 85% and now at 9:40 it's at 96%. Over 7 hours and not fully charged???
That seems crazy to me. The phone sat idle all night so I don't think there was any load eating up any additional power.
What is causing this?
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I'm running Gingervitis, just flashed it a couple days ago. So far I really like it but I'm noticeing some battery issues. Not sure if it's due to the ROM itself, gingerbread, or my phone.
First, it seems like the battery drain is a lot quicker that when I was running Froyo. Doesn't bother me as much I guess.
Last night I plugged my phone in at about 2:00 AM. It was at about 20%. It is now 9:30 and it is at 8:00 is was at 85% and now at 9:40 it's at 96%. Over 7 hours and not fully charged???
That seems crazy to me. The phone sat idle all night so I don't think there was any load eating up any additional power.
What is causing this?
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Known issue, unknown fix afaik.
Try flashing imos latest kernal--did not do well with my phone but the charging seemed to be a lot faster IMHO.
schmaltzy said:
I'm running Gingervitis, just flashed it a couple days ago. So far I really like it but I'm noticeing some battery issues. Not sure if it's due to the ROM itself, gingerbread, or my phone.
First, it seems like the battery drain is a lot quicker that when I was running Froyo. Doesn't bother me as much I guess.
Last night I plugged my phone in at about 2:00 AM. It was at about 20%. It is now 9:30 and it is at 8:00 is was at 85% and now at 9:40 it's at 96%. Over 7 hours and not fully charged???
That seems crazy to me. The phone sat idle all night so I don't think there was any load eating up any additional power.
What is causing this?
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Read my new post. Thanks n good luck! (Check your kernel)
4Geezy ON DopeDiculous's ROOTED TBeezy!
Charging speed seems fine until it gets into the upper 90s. I've been waiting for 20 mins for it to go from 98-99 to 100 so I can finally do my battery calibration.
(Imo's latest and DasBamf GingerRemix)
Gotta love the Thunderbolt's ability to destroy a fully charged battery and take forever to recharge. I was using rooted stock and now I'm on Cyanogenmod and I haven't seen too much of a change in charge/discharge behavior.
I know this may not be the answer you are looking for but if you could go without your phone being on for an hour or so than just power it off to charge, it goes a lot quicker n.n
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Charging
To address the OP and your comment......
Yes try a different kernel, Dream's new one is based off IMO's with some nice tweaks. As for charging to 90%.... thats standard for any device that utilizes quick charging. You can NOT charge a battery on fast charge all the way to 100% with out ruining the battery. Some kernels have issues with quick charging, so they disable it, others quick charge to 60% and then trickle charge.
Apple and HP were one of the first companies to throw in the quick charge method 80/20 80% quick charge @ ~1% per 1min and then trickle for the last 20%.
Hope that helps....
jschecter said:
Charging speed seems fine until it gets into the upper 90s. I've been waiting for 20 mins for it to go from 98-99 to 100 so I can finally do my battery calibration.
(Imo's latest and DasBamf GingerRemix)
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To address the OP and your comment......
Yes try a different kernel, Dream's new one is based off IMO's with some nice tweaks. As for charging to 90%.... thats standard for any device that utilizes quick charging. You can NOT charge a battery on fast charge all the way to 100% with out ruining the battery. Some kernels have issues with quick charging, so they disable it, others quick charge to 60% and then trickle charge.
Apple and HP were one of the first companies to throw in the quick charge method 80/20 80% quick charge @ ~1% per 1min and then trickle for the last 20%.
Hope that helps....
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Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll give it a try.
Might as well ask another question right away.... I have not been having good luck with the battery life on these new GB ROMS. I've been running Das BAMF 2.0.5 for a couple days now and it seems to not be so great on the battery. With pretty much NO usage today, my battery is already at %80.
My battery usage shows it off the charger for a little over 5 hours, and normally I'd say 5 hours and %80 isn't bad, but like I stated above, I haven't used it at all today. No texts, phone calls, or games.
Any battery improvement with Dream's kernal?
I don't know about the battery life but after you plug your phone in to charge just reboot it and it should charge fine. I read that somewhere on here and just did it this morning. Worked great for me.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll give it a try.
Might as well ask another question right away.... I have not been having good luck with the battery life on these new GB ROMS. I've been running Das BAMF 2.0.5 for a couple days now and it seems to not be so great on the battery. With pretty much NO usage today, my battery is already at %80.
My battery usage shows it off the charger for a little over 5 hours, and normally I'd say 5 hours and %80 isn't bad, but like I stated above, I haven't used it at all today. No texts, phone calls, or games.
Any battery improvement with Dream's kernal?
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I dont like recommending one ROM over another.. but there is alot of buzz over Th3oryofGinger, its got some.. but not alot to do with the ROM. Try that if you like none other. The kernel is key. Try dreams with Th3oryofGinger and see how that works. Remember to run speedtweak.sh in terminal and use the extreme setting (extremely undervolted, overclocked to 1400mhz) and then select the setting to remove limits for governor. I use interactiveX with setCPu and get decent results.
No ROM, MOD or Kernel will give you enough battery allday with normal intended use be it gaming or business. Fact is it was a crappy hardware design in that respect. With the Tbolt you should expect 1hour per 10% of battery for decent use... 10 text messages, 4 emails, and a few pages of internet searches on 3g per hour is what I consider decent use. Realistically it should last an 8 hour work day... with some to spare before you charge on the ride home. Dont expect much more.
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I dont like recommending one ROM over another.. but there is alot of buzz over Th3oryofGinger, its got some.. but not alot to do with the ROM. Try that if you like none other. The kernel is key. Try dreams with Th3oryofGinger and see how that works. Remember to run speedtweak.sh in terminal and use the extreme setting (extremely undervolted, overclocked to 1400mhz) and then select the setting to remove limits for governor. I use interactiveX with setCPu and get decent results.
No ROM, MOD or Kernel will give you enough battery allday with normal intended use be it gaming or business. Fact is it was a crappy hardware design in that respect. With the Tbolt you should expect 1hour per 10% of battery for decent use... 10 text messages, 4 emails, and a few pages of internet searches on 3g per hour is what I consider decent use. Realistically it should last an 8 hour work day... with some to spare before you charge on the ride home. Dont expect much more.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I may give Th3ory a try. I download the newest Dream kernel but before I flashed it I jumped on Imoseyon's page and found out that I was running an OLDER version on his kernel with Das BAMF. So I flashed his newest (3.0.1 test 1) and am going to try that out for a couple days and see how it is.
I do disagree with you on the fact that a phone should last a little more than an 8 hour work day. On some Froyo ROMs and kernels I was getting a least 15+ hours with minimal/medium usage.
Mine charges very slow, running liquid ginger 1.1 battery goes down faster too.
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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
dahui9 said:
I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
rekrapg said:
I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
popophobia said:
That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
popophobia said:
That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
Ensane said:
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
Battery Life
My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
MorbidMonk said:
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
MorbidMonk said:
Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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In the CleanROM ICS thread, Marine6680 posed an observation that I think bears looking into.
Please vote only if you are using an ICS ROM.
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Also please vote based on how your phone behaves while it is turned on. If you experience different behavior when the phone is off, please post that as a response.
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I have both the stock and the extended battery. My stock battery has stopped charging fully, only to 92%, my extended charges normally. My fiance's battery will not charge fully either. It is stock as well.
So it could be that these new 3.8v batteries (which are tweaked chemistry versions that have a slightly higher voltage than standard 3.7v) are not supported by the new kernel's charging controls. (which seems odd that it wouldn't) That is, if that is even controlled by the kernel and not hard wired into the mainboard.
So it may be an issue with the batteries... or not. If it only happens with the stock batteries then it will be harder to say for sure.
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I've posed the question in both the CleanROM and Ineffabilis ICS threads, but figured I'd post here to try to get all ICS ROM users to see it.
So far, all responses in those 2 threads have been that people with charging issues all had 3.8v batteries and that people with no charging issues (myself included) had 3.7v batteries.
Please respond here with your findings. Just pull out your battery and look on the back, top line of text.
I'm not sure what can be done about it, but at least it would answer a question that seems to be annoying a lot of people across ALL ICS ROMs.
Great idea for the poll, but still wrong section. Should be posted in General.
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Great idea for the poll, but still wrong section. Should be posted in General.
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Sorry. Can a mod please move?
I have the 3.7 battery and have had no issues with charging at all.
I have a 3.8 for about another 3 hours. I'm stopping by Verizon and getting a 3.7. I dare them to try to tell me no.
I have a 3.7 with no charging issues.
Well, my battery lasts like 2 hours since I put ICS on there but I can't tell if thats the usual terrible Rezound battery life or something wrong with my rom.
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I have a 3.7 with no charging issues.
Well, my battery lasts like 2 hours since I put ICS on there but I can't tell if thats the usual terrible Rezound battery life or something wrong with my rom.
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If I charge too 100% while it's turned off (since I have the 3.8v battery), I get great battery life on ICS. Yesterday I got around 16 hours with 4g on all day under normal use. On stock GB and the two GB roms I tested out, I was getting between 14 and 15 hours on average with 4g turned off.
If I try to charge with it turned on and experience the 87% ceiling, I get horrible battery life. 10 hours max, and the battery seems to discharge very quickly when I'm actually using it.
on my De-Sensed ICS Rom it doesn't charge up to 100% pretty much stops at around 98%~.. I have pretty amazing Battery life Could go an entire day with out hitting 20%, but then again I don;t have alot of apps
I have a 3.8v battery, running ICS, no charging problems, no battery life issues.... no nothing.
The ONLY strange issue I have, and I've had it since day one on GB, is that when i unplug my phone from the charger it will say either 99 or 100% on my battery widget, however if you wait a bit and then look at the battery stats chart later in the day, it shows that it began discharging from 93-94% rather than 99-100%. I simply assumed the battery scaling in software was slightly off from what the battery itself is reporting, but since it doesn't seem to be a problem at all I have just ignored it. The battery easily lasts all day with plenty of juice to spare for me.
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I have a 3.8v battery, running ICS, no charging problems, no battery life issues.... no nothing.
The ONLY strange issue I have, and I've had it since day one on GB, is that when i unplug my phone from the charger it will say either 99 or 100% on my battery widget, however if you wait a bit and then look at the battery stats chart later in the day, it shows that it began discharging from 93-94% rather than 99-100%. I simply assumed the battery scaling in software was slightly off from what the battery itself is reporting, but since it doesn't seem to be a problem at all I have just ignored it. The battery easily lasts all day with plenty of juice to spare for me.
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That's normal if you're not bump-charging.
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If I charge too 100% while it's turned off (since I have the 3.8v battery), I get great battery life on ICS. Yesterday I got around 16 hours with 4g on all day under normal use. On stock GB and the two GB roms I tested out, I was getting between 14 and 15 hours on average with 4g turned off.
If I try to charge with it turned on and experience the 87% ceiling, I get horrible battery life. 10 hours max, and the battery seems to discharge very quickly when I'm actually using it.
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wow, 10 hours is bad battery life on a lte phone?
If you aren't in a LTE area, make sure to set the phone to CDMA only instead of CDMA/LTE since it will forever search for an LTE signal... Thought I'll share that little tib bit.
Oh and In my situation I'm always connected to Wifi, Home,School, Work so I go into *#*#4636#*#* and under Phone Info I switch to CDMA only (1x) instead of CDMA Auto (3G) since in my commute I'm not stream/downloading anything... So keeping the Phone at 2G all the time makes for an even better battery life
But To each their own
** Since the issue is more ICS centered, I (among others) would blame this on the Leaked (unstable) battery/power drivers... So only until the official release we can't blame ICS as a whole (for now)
Tachi91 said:
on my De-Sensed ICS Rom it doesn't charge up to 100% pretty much stops at around 98%~.. I have pretty amazing Battery life Could go an entire day with out hitting 20%, but then again I don;t have alot of apps
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Got 1 day 4 hours with 40 percent left on your rom everything left as is. My issues with the music player was the only reason I went back to GB. That issue was across all ICS roms.
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nrfitchett4 said:
wow, 10 hours is bad battery life on a lte phone?
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Maybe "horrible" was an overstatement, but it's certainly worse than what I was getting on GB or when I'm actually able to charge fully. That's also with 4g disabled, which I should have mentioned.
I have 2 different rezound batteries and both are 3.7v and had zero charging issues with any of the ICS roms I've been running.
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So... do you want a 3.7v or a 3.8? Whats the difference?
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So... do you want a 3.7v or a 3.8? Whats the difference?
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0.1 volts
Sorry, had to do it.
I have a 3.8v and my battery only charges to %90 max. Running Scotts ICS 2.1 ROM
a.mcdear said:
I have a 3.8v battery, running ICS, no charging problems, no battery life issues.... no nothing.
The ONLY strange issue I have, and I've had it since day one on GB, is that when i unplug my phone from the charger it will say either 99 or 100% on my battery widget, however if you wait a bit and then look at the battery stats chart later in the day, it shows that it began discharging from 93-94% rather than 99-100%. I simply assumed the battery scaling in software was slightly off from what the battery itself is reporting, but since it doesn't seem to be a problem at all I have just ignored it. The battery easily lasts all day with plenty of juice to spare for me.
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Which rom are you on?
Posted this in another thread but:
Just got off the phone with Verizon, they said they are pushing an OTA that addresses battery issues. Take that with a grain of salt
He texted me the info: 2.01.605.00: Baseband:0.95.00.1118r
There's been mixed reviews of battery life in the CM7 rom for the NT as far as battery life is concerned, some are saying they've run it with moderate use since the day it was released and only used about 20 - 30% so far while others are saying battery life is terrible.
SO I thought I'd start a little poll to see what people are getting, I'm guess the battery drain is due to various software being installed so not really the OS's fault.
For me the Battery life is greatly improved over stock, for instance I took it of charge 10 hours ago, it's admittedly only been used for a few minute son and of during those 10 hours but it's lost the grand total of 4% battery in those 10 hours which I consider pretty good really.
Soi lets here what everyone thinks, remember to vote !
Battery life - improved
This is my third day on the CM7 alpha - battery life has been much better than before. Considering I have probably spent more time with the NT turned on over the last couple of days than I normally would, the battery used is less than normal. Previously I would use about 60% of my battery per day. Now I am using 30%-40% - and that includes downloading and configuring many, many applications.
I really think its much better than stock in my cm7 nt
No problems here. Take off charge around 6am and return to charge around 10pm with usually more than 80% left depending on usage.
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I don't think mine has been on a charger for the last 16 hours or so, light usage, wireless has been off most of the time, and I use a task killer to kill things before I turn off the screen. Didn't power off, just put to sleep last night before bed, it's still at like 85%.
So far, it seems better than stock battery life to me, or at least no worse, and I have a lot more apps installed now.
Edit: Internal version.
It might help if folks said if they were running off SD card or internal memory when looking at battery life - I have the impression that the SD card reader on the NT is something of a battery vampire.
Internal CM7 since it was released.
Live wallpaper on Golauncher
wifi set to screen off-off
Brightness at about 60-65%
It's been off of charge for 4 hours 21 minutes this morning and I'm at 96%
Dolphin HD and Gmail have been running all that time.
Hasn't been out for long enough to really tell but my impression is that it's about the same as stock.
screen.
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
The nook charger is a 1.8amp charger
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
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Will do.
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RadicalAns said:
Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
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What kind of usage? Low, high, moderate? Just curious because my wife and I do a decent amount of Netflix (1-2 hours a day) and I don't have to charge more than every 3 days. This is with 1.4.0 rooted. I've been exceptionally pleased with that - power consumption in standby seems to be incredibly miserly with stock (most likely due to WiFi being turned off when the system is in standby).
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The nook charger is a 1.8amp charger
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Ahh. That explains a lot. Looks like I should pack that in my bag rather than my Moto charger. I wonder if it'll charge my phone faster?
On the subject of the battery, I posted about an issue I encountered last night, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22261812
Additional information: At the time, I was fooling around with a playstation emulator, which i'm fairly sure constitutes a heavy drain on system resources. Battery drain seemed appropriate for the level of activity.
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Internal install, wifi off during sleep. Figure the end of the graph was about 19-20 hours or so of sleep. Before that was a constant internet, twitter, WWF session. Screen brightness is in the bottom 1/3rd of the slider.
I am going to beat the hell out of it tonight and will see how the battery holds up. Looks pretty solid just sleeping, so we will see what it can do under load.
So found that if your wireless location is turned on, it will wake your NT about every 5 minuetes. That's not a good thing
If anyone is seeing drains, i suggest using betterbatterystats to help track down the culprit.
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So Im getting horrible battery life with this now. Not really sure whats going on. I use to be able to leave my nook on standby for days and last night it was at about 30% woke up this morning and it was completely dead...
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
grim_ripper said:
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.