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Does anyone eleses yellows and Greens look off esp the yellows they seem to be very dull and off and almost orange
I agree, the market icon look Olive-colored on Atrix 4G
A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
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But the color does not feel as good as my laptop screen...
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No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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Qhd is not a screen technology, its a resolution.
And the problem with the colors isn't that they're dull or unsaturated compared to a super amoled., that's to be expexted. The problem is that the colors are just wrong compared to just about any screen you want to compare it too, load up some websites on the phone and a well calibrated desktop monitor and you'll easily see the difference.
Compared to my captivate im really happy. That thing made skin tones green or orange.
It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
Ok, saying this again. We (at least I) am not saying this in comparison to a samoled screen, the colors on a regular LCD will obviously never look like that, the colors on the amoled are completely wrong. However that doesn't mean the atrix has them right, just look at the screen compared to a well calibrated computer monitor.
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It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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Bumping this to get some attention on this issue.
I'm considering returning my Atrix because of how bad yellows and blues look, compared to OTHER LCDs, not compared to Super AMOLED screens.
I lined up my Captivate, Atrix, iPod Touch 4, and my wife's HTC Evo Shift and fired up Words with Friends on all of them. While it's clear that the Captivate is oversaturated, if you take that out of the equation, the Atrix's colors just look bad compared to the other two LCDs. The yellow tiles look "dirty" like they have a brown or greenish tint to them. The light blues in the tabs on the home screen of Words with Friends look like they have a greenish tint as well.
I've seen a lot of people say that they think it's one of the greatest displays ever, up there on par with the iPhone 4. If that's true, I really hope mine and other people seeing this just have defective models that can be exchanged.
I'm going into my AT&T store sometime tonight or tomorrow in hopes of putting two or more Atrices side by side to compare.
If anyone else seeing this problem could do the same, it would be very helpful. Especially as it seems likely that a random one pulled out in store could have the same defect.
Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
If you go to a verizon store and play with a motorola droid x you'll see that its screen looks the same as well, it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
The screens also look just like the motorola droid x's screen, so it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Thanks for the reply, mjgunn, as sad as it makes me
Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye. The iphone is also much smoother when using the pinch to zoom feature. With the Atrix having a dual core processor, I thought it would at least be on par with the iphone, but for some reason it's definitely not as smooth.
Oh well... just my 2 cents.
So I went in to an AT&T store last night and compared my Atrix with their demo unit.
The colors seem a little bit better, but interestingly, the demo unit's display didn't seem as bright as my Atrix, and it may have had slightly higher contrast.
I got one of the associates to look at it and agree that mine had a slight color cast to it. They said they would do a replacement for me if I came back with my paperwork from my online order, so I said I would do that today or Saturday.
I went straight home and compared my Atrix again to my wife's HTC Evo Shift. In doing that, I still felt like the color on her screen was significantly better than on mine, and in seemed better than I remembered the store's demo unit, as well.
So, I think I need to get my phone and her phone both in there, side by side with the demo unit, and see if I could live with the screen if it was exactly the same as the demo unit. I think probably yes, given the other major advantages of this phone (qHD resolution, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM), but as a graphic designer, bad colors are hard for me to take. And colors that are off in the way the Atrix's screen is off are a graver sin to me than oversaturating a la Super AMOLED.
Bottom line, I'm still on the fence. Has anyone else done any other tests?
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye.
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Wait, so now the iPhone's IPS LCD is oversaturated too? Let's face it: Atrix is weak on colors -thanks to the RGBW PenTile display, where they tried to prolong its life by replacing some Blue tiles with White tiles -which makes colors pale.
It does look great with flesh tones though. Ill give it that.
People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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Or they got an Atrix with a defective display, like me. Ony my Atrix, there's no getting around the fact that yellows look dirty and brown, and that certain shades of blue look greenish.
Hi,
My new motorola atrix is verry good but I think the yellow is very bad on this phone.
For example the 2nd "o" of google or wood on angry birds is unrealistic, dark, dull...
Am I alone in thinking this ?
The problem can be solved by an official rom or other modification ?
Thank you.
Looks OK to me?
Compared next to my N900 (of which I think has an amazing screen too)
I'm getting used to colour change after a AMOLED, for me it feels like the screen has been through a blue rinse.
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You might try a higher brightness level.
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I'm getting used to colour change after a AMOLED, for me it feels like the screen has been through a blue rinse.
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Yeah I agree, all the yellows look a little green to me. When I got this bad boy I got Fruit Ninja on it and some of the fruits looked very unripe lol
Yellows are dull and washed out on the Pentile display. period. it's something we all have to live with (and most have), however those who try and say it doesn't exist are just lying to themselves. Highest brightness makes it a little more vivid, but nowhere near a normal LCD display.
You don't notice after using it for a while, I am willing to make the trade off for the bump in resolution.
When you go to another display you quickly remember what its supposed to look like though.
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Have to say my screen is better than my desire and nexus in direct sun light, and with polarized sunglasses on. So there are bonus'.
Only ones better are sensation and iphone4 with a higher ppi.
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Yes, you are right, the colors may vary between different screens but I tried acer liquid, nintendo ds, dingoo, my lcd computer and tv screens and for me the atrix has stranges colors.
Fortunately I am not alone in thinking this
Pity there is no application to change the hue
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I found the colors were off too so I played with the setting a bit... by placing the battery mode in performance mode it seemed to fix the problem. let me know if it fixes it for you.
Oh thank you !
When I could use my phone, I would try this solution
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I found the colors were off too so I played with the setting a bit... by placing the battery mode in performance mode it seemed to fix the problem. let me know if it fixes it for you.
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uh, that would not affect the screen colors at all.
I have only experienced the screen from the og evo and the qhd on the 3d but the rave seems to be the samsung samoled screen. Those that have have hands on with other screens what is the best looking screen in your opinion? I have spent time with the retina display on the iphone 4 which is nice but is just way too small for me. I have read the super amoled plus is as good as the retina i just havent had hands on time with it. Is it that much better than the 3d's screen?
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I've had the Epic 4g (not touch) and the Nexus S 4g, EVO and EVO 3d and I can honestly say the S AMOLED screens have better color than the Evo 3d but I still prefer the Evo 3d screen.
I prefer the sgs 2 screen is really good too bad is not 720p cause those phones got some really big screen, so far my favorite definition and screen is the iPhone 4, really make a difference when looking right next to another phone , evo 3d is just wash out for some reason
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From what I've heard, the lg nova screen is the best screen on the market. I haven't actually seen one though. I thought the sgs2 screen was too cartoony looking.
iPhone 4 was nice but I agree that it was too small. I had one for about 8 months and then went to an atrix. The pentile display was pretty crappy.
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I like my 3d screem the best. Super amiled looks dark all the time to me and the iphone 4 whites look pink. Maybe i just had 2 bad phones.
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I am definitely interested in seeing the 720 hd display on the new google phone. I am just amazed how fast phones are progressing. I wish they had a 6 month upgrade plan and even then you would be behind the times. I am still shocked at the camera on the prime though. I know mp arent the only thing that matters but at this point 8 is the standard it seems and many are coming in at 12mp. Hell i remember when phones first got cameras and how awesome everyone thought they were
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I had the Nexus one before and right after I switched to the 3D I noticed the screen wasn't as good as the AMOLED. That being said, after a couple days it wasn't an issue, I only noticed after using it for over a year and immediately comparing it.
Side by side there's a difference but the E3D screen is just fine. I wouldn't base any decisions off the screen.
EVO 3D screen is good enough for me...
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iphone screen size is too small... 3.5"
Super amoled is superior in terms of color, but it is darker than qhd. I personally like the qhd, and even with a side by side comparison to the best screen out there I would never have that be what determines the phone I get
I think that samoled is prettier to look at, but I'm happy with the Evo 3d's qhd crispness!
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After having both an AMOLED incredible and an nexus S 4g with a super AMOLED, I couldn't go back.
I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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This. Especially when using LCD Changer and changing the density to a smaller one..the E3D shines!
My friends have the SGSII, NS4G, and Epic 4G. After using their phones I feel like my screen is definitely second-rate, although the qHD aspect of the EVO 3D's screen is soooo incredibly awesome.
The SGSII may be only 480x800, but each pixel also has 3 sub-pixels, so keep that in mind when bashing it's resolution.
After owning the E3D and now the SGS2, I must say the SGS2 screen just amazes me everytime I look at it. Resolution truly means nothing when comparing these 2 screens.
I do agree that the SGS2 looks more cartoony but I think it just looks more fun because of that. The E3D looks like a much more series screen. The colors on the E3D look extremely washed out when comparing to an Super Amoled Plus Screen. It almost looks like the screen has been sitting out in the sun for months and just faded.....
Speaking of the sun, when outdoors the SGS2 screen can be seen crystal clear as well. It can't even be explained, it is just something you need to see. The screen just cuts through the sun....
You just need to decide what is important to you and go with it. To some the screen means everything, to others not so much.....Either way the SGS2 takes the cake when comparing screens.......
SAMOLED by a mile. As for people saying the SAMOLED screens look over-saturated: You're probably just too used to the washed out LCD look. I truly miss my Epic's screen, even with it having a pentile sub-pixel matrix.
Best things about the sgs2 screen is the color depth, the whites and blacks are amazing. The evo3d screen as a lot better resolution, but you get used to it after a few weeks. As far as the oversaturaed look people mentioned , there are different modes in the display settings to adjust the color saturation to your liking.
I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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The screen is different on the sgs2 then it is on the Nexus 4G. On the sgs2 the screen is nice and bright, far from being considered to dark. You really need to see it in person, you cannot base your opinion off of the Nexus 4G, they are different screens.
I set my 3D to full brightness, and did the same with my bro's Nexus-S 4G ...we then opened up the first level of Angry Birds RIO since the game has pretty much every color under the sun. The colors on the Nexus were richer, with more contrast...but the smaller details were far far better on the Evo. The most obvious difference was the eyes in the birds. On the Evo they were clearly detailed, you could see the outter and inner eye while on the Nexus it pretty much a blur with some pixelation. Try it out. I also felt the 3D had a second rate screen as well, still do actually, but that was a welcome surprise.
So I met up with a friend who has a Galaxy S II and when realized that I had a Rezound, he asked to see it. The first thing he said was "woah this screen is nice!"... I thought to myself "isn't the GSII screen, being true RGB, supposed to be nice?"... but apparently he liked my screen more then his.
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So I met up with a friend who has a Galaxy S II and when realized that I had a Rezound, he asked to see it. The first thing he said was "woah this screen is nice!"... I thought to myself "isn't the GSII screen, being true RGB, supposed to be nice?"... but apparently he liked my screen more then his.
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Well when you compare the Rezound screen 1280 x 720p it is also RGB. Not to mention the high pixel density count. Some say pixel density might not matter, but when you start getting to text close up, HD images and videos you will notice. The SII screen isn't bad by any standards.. Super AMOLED + is sexy and the viewing angles are superior vs SLCD. But the resolution on that screen is only what 800 x 480? Now if it was a super amoled + HD with no pentile submatrix like the Nexus is going to have (that + screen banding) I really don't see how the reviewers say it's a beautiful screen. But for now the Rezound does have one of the best screens on the market yes.
I'm sold on the rezounds screen. I really see a different between it and any other device. The pixels per inch really do matter, pics, hq videos, webpages... i don't know it all looks great!
i picked up my rezound on release day and i'll have to agree, this screen is Fing AMAZING well for a phone anyway.
also the camera and picture quality is top notch. even in low light indoors the video and pictures is so good.
so far i really haven't found anything to complain about. I do miss the thunderbolt kickstand but i'll manage.
We are praising this thing now, but watch, next year it will be 1080p and we will all feel like losers having this phone. lol
On a serious note, this screen is awesome! I love bragging to iPhone owners
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We are praising this thing now, but watch, next year it will be 1080p and we will all feel like losers having this phone. lol
On a serious note, this screen is awesome! I love bragging to iPhone owners
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Hmm I don't think they will jump that fast for resolution for phones. 800 x 480 has been the standard for awhile for phones. qhD is now just starting to be the "standard" with HD starting to trickle in on a few phones.
The screen is the best out so far, for any smart phone. So used to not being able to read text from far that I hold the rezound a lot closer to my face than I should. This phone can pack so much clearly readable text on 1 page, cause of the resolution. Videos?... pshhh. I've seen videos shot by horrible cams, turned into crisp playback. Any image you display on this device just seems nicer. No complaints on this screen whatsoever.
...just another unbiased review from a proud rezound owner
... lol, but seriously this screen rocks!
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Those people are not so bright. It might not matter after a certain point, but it matters my friend!
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Those people are not so bright. It might not matter after a certain point, but it matters my friend!
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They can't help it if their eyes are broken. I pity them.
Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
Now the question is can we use a app like voodoo screen tuner and make it even better =p lol
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Did it come with the cool sample HD video that shows off the screen like the Intl. has?
As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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What do you mean by hatching?
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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It's not a matter of color reproduction; it's the physical subpixels that look a bit off. It's a subtle diagonal hatching pattern that is visible regardless of brightness. It's not horribly obvious at normal distances but I can see it. Honestly it isn't that much worse than being able to see the square pattern around individual pixels on my GS2--I was just hoping at this resolution/pixel density I wouldn't be able to see it at all.
Color reproduction isn't too bad. It's slightly different from my GS2 but I am not that picky about it, since I don't do serious photography or other art. AMOLED screens all have oversaturated colors anyway.
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What do you mean by hatching?
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It's sort of like there is an overlay of tiny black dots in a diagonal pattern. As I mention above it isn't obvious especially at more than a foot or so away, but it is visible.
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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I hope it doesn't seem like I'm freaking out.
I'm saying this having used the phone a bit; I have it sitting right here. No argument here, it is way better than the PenTile on the RAZR or any other Moto phone I've used. And yes, I'm pretty sure you're right about the technical limitations preventing proper RGB layouts for this resolution/size, probably something to do with how small they can physically make subpixels, since it is clearly possible to have a 1280x800 Super AMOLED+ display in a 7.7" form factor. I ALSO agree that a screen this large would be awful at 800x480, and I definitely prefer the PenTile 1280x800 over RGB 800x480 at this size. I am definitely NOT saying the screen is bad, but I am disappointed because it isn't as good as I hoped it would be.
So we mostly agree. I am just more irritable I guess.
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Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
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I had a Skyrocket before this and the difference is stunning. My wife has an ip4s and says she can't stop staring at it over my shoulder because it looks so good.
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
Just tried looking at my iPhone 4 and it looks like all the color has been sucked out....this really is a great screen!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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Where is the post that says ICS fixed this?
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How does the screen work in direct sunlight? I am not wanting to watch a movie, but need it when working outside to read e-mail and use the phone. On my current HTC Tilt 2 I have to find shade to see anything on my screen. I have read that the Super Amoled+ screens are better. I am hoping this will work where I do not have to put on my reading glasses.
One thing is for sure, the screen definitely is an attention grabber. All of my co-workers were amazed and how sharp and clear the screen was.
This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
Skyrocket does it too
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This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
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The screen is beautiful period. Better than my infuse or skyrocket.
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