Is Clockwork Mod Safe - Optimus One, P500, V General

I've been using AmonRA recovery since I got the Optimus in December and I am comfortable with it. I've tried out Miks port of CM7 and while it's great, i sorely miss the battery performance I was getting on Froyo with Void and running 824mhz stable without any problems. That and bluetooth is sorely missed. I want to give OpenOptimus a shot, but I am extremely weary of trying to install Clockwork Mod again, because the one time I attempted it I ended up bricking my phone. Thankfully, the guy at the Tmo kiosk in the mall just gave me a new one no questions asked. I wouldn't be so hesitant to install CWM on my phone if I could install the img just like I did with AmonRA instead of trusting Rom manager to do it for me.

I don't suggest you to flash recovery via ROM manager. IMHO ClockworkMod is better,has much more options. If you'll flash the 3.1.0.0 version using my flashable zips you won't brick anything. And remember to give openOptimus a shot,you won't regret it
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.

N00b-un-2 said:
I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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Do you people ever use search?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 - download and flash ZIP from recovery. Done.

Sorry about that. I didn't realize that you could actually flash a recovery from within the recovery. I just switched to CWM and flashed OpenOptimus. Waiting for first boot as I'm typing this.

N00b-un-2 said:
I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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yes a stated above u can just enter into recovery and flash any recovery u want from the link pointed out above and its safe ,since u already have recovery installed u dont need to flash recovery via rom manager and just remember that any backup taken from any recovery would be restored using the same recovery. To clear all doubts the problem has been solved and installing recovery from rom manger works flawlessly now. Note:Its advisable to use rommanager for ppl not having recovery installed just download the latest rom mager and flash choosig ur phone type.

slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.

N00b-un-2 said:
slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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This does not work, or... ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073827

nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~

I flashed CWM and my friend died a few days later.
So no it's not safe.

For me there are no problems with clockworkmod and RomManager. Flashed cwm via RomManager and everything is fine here.
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XeactorZ said:
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
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it not about using rom manger for flashing rom ,it just to get the cwm recovery and then going into recovery and using it from there.
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure

M happy with CWM

Don't use tricks like ROM Manager... It's just matter of learning to use a recovery, not that difficult.. just IMHO

You just need to use ROM manager Once to get recovery. After that you can delete the program and enjoy the CWM recovery.
I have been there, I have done it, You do want it

CWM works beautifully without problems..
I use rom manager just to reboot to recovery, as i am too lazy to use the 3 button combo to goto recovery.
Flashed ROMs and zips with CWM. 100 % safe untill now..

The new updared Rom Manager has solved that issue.
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How much I've learned in just a month!
I can't believe I had to ask that question. I know now that there are numerous ways to flash recoveries. My personal preference is to do it manually using the adb.

shhbz said:
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15186637&postcount=337
No, it is not 100% fine, in fact it lacks any sanity checks whatsoever.

Just flash CWM through your current recovery and you'll be fine. It's by far the safest method. If you flash through ROM Manager and after reboot you get stuck in fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015332 ... happened to me, unbricked it with some slight changes to the tutorial. Nothing important.
PS: If you don't use Rom Manager you can always do a $su then #reboot recovery in a terminal (Downloadable from market) to reboot directly to recovery.

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Remove CWM and install TWRP ?

CWM installed fine when I rooted but since it seems most of the Dev's are preferring TWRP to CWM I was thinking about getting rid of the CWM and installing TWRP.
I looked around but didn't see just how to do this. Anybody got a link to instructions or know what I need to do?
OR.... Am I worrying about something stupid and shouldn't worry about it?
AdRock02gt said:
CWM installed fine when I rooted but since it seems most of the Dev's are preferring TWRP to CWM I was thinking about getting rid of the CWM and installing TWRP.
I looked around but didn't see just how to do this. Anybody got a link to instructions or know what I need to do?
OR.... Am I worrying about something stupid and shouldn't worry about it?
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I would switch to TWRP. All you need to do is flash TWRP right over CWM. You don't need to erase CWM first. Just follow the instructions for installing TWRP, and you'll be good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Is it possible to just install it through terminal emulator now that we have root?
oohaylima said:
Is it possible to just install it through terminal emulator now that we have root?
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Not to my knowledge. Teamwin recommended installing it as a PG86IMG.zip for now, as that's the most reliable way to install it. You could also use fastboot to flash it if you'd want. Those are the only two ways I know to install it.
Actually, it looks like you can use Joeykrim's flash GUI app would do that...maybe research how to use it for that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192527&highlight=flash+GUI+app
my opinion is Teamwins recovery wil become the standard , nothing against clockwork . Amon Ra was the king of recoveries in the EVO4G days or atleast in my mind it was . I flashed the Teamwin recovery using the PG86IMG.zip . Went very smoothly without a hitch . My only advice is when you flash to Teamwin make a backup of your stock set up then let the flashing addiction kick in .
k2buckley said:
I would switch to TWRP. All you need to do is flash TWRP right over CWM. You don't need to erase CWM first. Just follow the instructions for installing TWRP, and you'll be good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
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Is the same true if I want to go back to CWM? Can I use ROM Manager to install CWM over TWRP?
StEVO_M said:
Is the same true if I want to go back to CWM? Can I use ROM Manager to install CWM over TWRP?
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Yes. There's a new touch recovery available. Search the play store for 4ext. Its a touch recovery.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
Latest Twrp works well. Only issues I seen in the latest was the time is off by 3 hours in the recovery and it doesn't seem to charge no red light.. But flashes everything right..
Hopefully this fixes a issue where the phone wasn't charging to green while off...
I've just started to use 4ext and so far I have no issues. TWRP works well also. I did get some restarts while in TWRP.
4eXT is going to become the standard you just don't know it yet...
(used Amon Ra, Clockwork Mod,TWRP and now 4eXT.)

[Q] why does each rom requires different recovery version?

I currently have tenfar's CWM installed.
I looked at the PiCrust thread where it says specifically that I need Romracer's Recovery (and not to use CWM from rom manager).
That made me wonder why does different ROMs require different recoveries ?
Also, what might happen if I use my CWM to flash PiCrust ? soft brick? hard brick?
Well they probably all would work, Tanfars has been reported in having problems clear caches, and the rom manager does not support external sd cards (at least last I looked at it, which was some time ago) so Romracers is pretty much the best to use on an Atrix right now. put if pushed I bet all would work OK in a pinch.
I would not worry about bricking your phone if you used the wrong version, it would just not work most likely and do nothing to your phone.
Thanks !
your explanation of the differences between the versions helped me to understand this issue - its a matter of features and bugs and not something different in the "core" functionality of the recovery.
I will probably update to romracer - as soon as I understand how
If I created a backup with one version will it resoter on the other ?
It also depends on when the rom was first posted. The older roms require Tenfars Pretty much all recently posted roms require RomRacer's recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
lilhaiti said:
It also depends on when the rom was first posted. The older roms require Tenfars Pretty much all recently posted roms require RomRacer's recovery.
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^^^This is the reason why ^^^ Older ROM OPs are dated, and the devs are not updating install instructions.
rusreid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
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That's right it does!
Some roms require ext4 support.
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hmmm
well i dont understand it either. i have succesfully been able to flash every single rom on this forum with the same cwm "Atrix 3.2" i believe its called.
so i am sticking to this cwm just because it works great and have nice colors.
and if i for some reason need to flash gingerblur 4.5 or something old i will just do it with the old recovery which came as an installable apk, before the bootloader got unlocked.
rusreid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Check out the info in the Noob guide.
Scroll down to the HOW TO INSTALL CWM RECOVERY ON 2.3.4 area and it tells you step by step how to do it.
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I have seen that - but PiCrust writes :
"Do NOT use CWM installed from ROM Manager!"
and in noob section it is explained how to install romracer version using rom manager.
since I already have tenfar's cwm - I can just do a zip install through tenfars cwm which will replace cwm to romracer's version, right ?
akalithium said:
I have seen that - but PiCrust writes :
"Do NOT use CWM installed from ROM Manager!"
and in noob section it is explained how to install romracer version using rom manager.
since I already have tenfar's cwm - I can just do a zip install through tenfars cwm which will replace cwm to romracer's version, right ?
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Yes, you should be able to flash RomRacers version via Tenfars CWM. Make sure you don't have the .sh file first, which you would need to delete.
As far as the ROM Manger thing goes... in the N00B guide, I just explain how to install RomRacers CWM via ROM Manager... so yes, your installing ROM Manager, but if you follow the steps, your actually using RomRacers version through ROM Manager (and not the actual ROM Manager version) as a end result.
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That's the romracer recovery which has been the most current but I have read that Rom Manager's CWM has been updated to 5.xxx so I would like to know if anyone has ventured into those waters???
papand7 said:
well i dont understand it either. i have succesfully been able to flash every single rom on this forum with the same cwm "Atrix 3.2" i believe its called.
so i am sticking to this cwm just because it works great and have nice colors.
and if i for some reason need to flash gingerblur 4.5 or something old i will just do it with the old recovery which came as an installable apk, before the bootloader got unlocked.
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Actually I don't think any rom requires any recovery if you understand how to do it on your own Just saying.
Actually the "do not use ROM Manager's CWM" instruction is dated, the latest CWM that ROM Manager will install for you works completely fine, has ext4 support and will let you install both from SDCard and internal storage.

updating custom recovery

so i have put the amonRa recovery on my wifes phone but honestly it seems a bit outdated. i use CWM recovery on my phone and was just wondering if i can just replace it by installing the CWM recovery via Rom Manager from CWM
thx
Go to ciaox's flashable recovery thread and download a cwm recovery zip file and flash it.
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flash http://www.mediafire.com/?fs35674qj48j856 this zip file from recovery.
The zip file has 5.0.2.0 clockworkmod , latest one.
or
follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318750
freebordjunky said:
so i have put the amonRa recovery on my wifes phone but honestly it seems a bit outdated. i use CWM recovery on my phone and was just wondering if i can just replace it by installing the CWM recovery via Rom Manager from CWM
thx
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Download rom manager ad flash it. No extra **** to do. U need a rooted phone
To do it though
gnsxp said:
Download rom manager ad flash it. No extra **** to do. U need a rooted phone
To do it though
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thanks that was the awnser i was looking for

Instaling Clockwork Recovery after Root?

I've just rooted my phone using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
To install ROM's (and in particular Cyanogen 7), I need Clockwork Recovery installed..yes?
I can't seem to find the obvious way to do this, but, can I simply use stock recovery, to run the CWM.zip in the above method to get to Clockwork Recovery - and then install Cyanogenmod?
white43 said:
I've just rooted my phone using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
To install ROM's (and in particular Cyanogen 7), I need Clockwork Recovery installed..yes?
I can't seem to find the obvious way to do this, but, can I simply use stock recovery, to run the CWM.zip in the above method to get to Clockwork Recovery - and then install Cyanogenmod?
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Chech here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
The bedt way to hsve ur cellphone root
Using XDA Premium over Resurrection Remix ICS, the Best Rom ever made
Simple method root and cwm all in one .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
Hmmm, nobody actually really answered my query there.
The phone is already rooted.
In the method I followed, you used stock recovery, to load Clockwork Recovery. I'm simply asking, can I use this method to install custom rom?
white43 said:
Hmmm, nobody actually really answered my query there.
The phone is already rooted.
In the method I followed, you used stock recovery, to load Clockwork Recovery. I'm simply asking, can I use this method to install custom rom?
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If ur phone said that is root and u have cwm yes u can install custom tom. Do u can go into recovery ?
Using XDA Premium over Resurrection Remix ICS, the Best Rom ever made
You boot into stock recovery. You then select a file called CWM.zip and this temporarily loads Clockwork. On a reboot, you'd still have stock recovery.
Yes you can flash custom ROM using that temp cwm, I do it all the time
white43 said:
You boot into stock recovery. You then select a file called CWM.zip and this temporarily loads Clockwork. On a reboot, you'd still have stock recovery.
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I didn't try in that way. If u want give it a try i prefer the way that a post u before
Using XDA Premium over Resurrection Remix ICS, the Best Rom ever made
1) place your ROM zip to SD card root, again flash CWM zip from stock recovery,
and install zip from SDcard,
2) or you flash CF-root CWM version from CWM after flashing CWM zip, to get pemenent CWM
3) flash CF-root TAR file from ODIN to get CWM, no matter you already rooted
Excellent. Thanks guys.

[Q] Is there a CWM flashable file to get back TWRP?

I was only wondering if this was available since we can't flash recovery images on the opposite recovery. I have made a recovery image in TWRP but have not gone so far to not just flash CWM and make a recovery image that will serve as my new point zero. Just curious since I only saw flashable CWM.
MunkinDrunky said:
I was only wondering if this was available since we can't flash recovery images on the opposite recovery. I have made a recovery image in TWRP but have not gone so far to not just flash CWM and make a recovery image that will serve as my new point zero. Just curious since I only saw flashable CWM.
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Use the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052788
or heres the TWRP thread but no CWM flashable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
Balsta said:
Use the Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052788
or heres the TWRP thread but no CWM flashable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
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the link you gave to TWRP recovery was exactly what i was looking for. In the TWRP website they have a flashable option for TWRP to use in whatever existing recovery you have, that is CWM for us. Under droidstyle's guide (there's the thread also in dev section too for CWM) there is also a link for flashable CWM so now im set.
Although you already found what you were looking for, you can also download/run the goo manager app, press menu->install open recovery script. That will install TWRP.
Sent from my SCH-I605
Thrillhouse847 said:
Although you already found what you were looking for, you can also download/run the goo manager app, press menu->install open recovery script. That will install TWRP.
Sent from my SCH-I605
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I was hoping this way would let me get out but Ive now lost any custom recovery while in paranoid android. So what i did was while in Jelly Beans rom is flash CWM recovery to then flash Paranoid. I then decided to go back to beans, and i tried to flash TWRP zip that i has to restore my recovery. That failed an i have no recovery. I only have android system recovery <3e>. I am currently trying the goo manager to get me back, but so far i dont think im doing it right ill keep trying.
...So with goo manager i cant flash back to beans, i cant flash CWM back on, and ive: installed open recovery script to to install the TWRP img file but it must not have worked, but i cant see anything to indicate not.
Ok so im am stuck with just the stock recovery. In goo manager it says the recovery was installed but if is reboot to recovery its just crappy old boring stock and if i try to flash anything from goo manager it just reboots to that same stock recovery. Anyone know how to get a custom recovery back?
MunkinDrunky said:
Ok so im am stuck with just the stock recovery. In goo manager it says the recovery was installed but if is reboot to recovery its just crappy old boring stock and if i try to flash anything from goo manager it just reboots to that same stock recovery. Anyone know how to get a custom recovery back?
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The TWRP in goo manager is not the correct one for our phone. I did the same thing and ended up in the same position as you. I used the suckitverizon file from Adams thread and odined it back on to the phone. If was in that position now I would use the newly released tool kit.
Good luck.
Geezer Squid said:
The TWRP in goo manager is not the correct one for our phone. I did the same thing and ended up in the same position as you. I used the suckitverizon file from Adams thread and odined it back on to the phone. If was in that position now I would use the newly released tool kit.
Good luck.
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Im downloading the toolkit now but in the meantime did you have to restart the whole process in the 3 step bootloader unlock or did you just start at flashing suckitverizon version 2 in odin? Im just wondering how safe that is.
MunkinDrunky said:
Im downloading the toolkit now but in the meantime did you have to restart the whole process in the 3 step bootloader unlock or did you just start at flashing suckitverizon version 2 in odin? Im just wondering how safe that is.
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No I did not have to start over. If I recall correctly, I put the suckit file in the pda box and hit start. You can read up on it in Adams main thread and I know there were a few other people in the same fix.
Good luck
Toolkit saved my bacon. Many lessons learned. so if i want to restore an image in twrp say from paranoid then i use cwn to flash to a rom that plays nice with twrp then flash twrp back then recover in twrp. Now if i get stuck the toolkit has the correct twrp and cwm for the verizon note ii.
spoke too soon i though at least getting cwm was all good. However the toolkit wont install TWRP which is what i have my backups made on. i followed all the step on screen and selected sch-i605 to be flashed in odin. I can only reboot into stock recovery afterwards. :crying:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051992 This has been asked (by me) and answered (by awesome folks with more sense than me).
ok it all over. CWM can be had by flashing zip in twrp or through tool kit. twrp i only regained by odining again the suckitverizon from Adam's unlockbootloader thread.

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