I thought that it would be a really good addition for TSM Parts. On my tablet so I can't really link any videos or demos. But its pretty neat and I've seen it on my friend's droid Eris, so why not on the fascinate?
I know nothing about the technical aspects of how to port something etc, but I thought I'd thought I'd throw this idea out there.
Sorry for the post in dev section. I know the devs don't really look in any other sections. So yeah.
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belber095 said:
I thought that it would be a really good addition for TSM Parts. On my tablet so I can't really link any videos or demos. But its pretty neat and I've seen it on my friend's droid Eris, so why not on the fascinate?
I know nothing about the technical aspects of how to port something etc, but I thought I'd thought I'd throw this idea out there.
Sorry for the post in dev section. I know the devs don't really look in any other sections. So yeah.
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Some actually do look in other section. TSM parts is created from themers not devs. You dont see them making roms. They make mods. Based on themes and ideas etc.
tonu42 said:
Some actually do look in other section. TSM parts is created from themers not devs. You dont see them making roms. They make mods. Based on themes and ideas etc.
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We also do roms, hence UKB and MIUIWiz. Get your facts straight.
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belber095 said:
I've seen it on my friend's droid Eris, so why not on the fascinate?
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Don't know how difficult something like that is to port, but the reason you've seen it on an Eris is because it's an HTC phone with Sense... I would imagine that's pretty easy to port over
I imagine it's buried deeply in Sense's framework so I think porting it would be difficult, if not impossible. It would be cool though. The more lockscreen choices the better.
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I guess this means you have never READ THIS? On topic, it is only possible to mimic a sense lock with what is available within the touchwiz frameworks (nitsuj17 has proven that very well). But no, a sense lock can't be ported to our device with the use of tw frameworks.
good day.
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Some actually do look in other section. TSM parts is created from themers not devs. You dont see them making roms. They make mods. Based on themes and ideas etc.
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Umm do you even look at other threads in here ? Tsm collectively has comrom and miuiwiz and now andmer is doing miui aosp gb (he is awesome)
I don't know where you get your information from... but get yiur facts straight before posting....
Guess you are too busy trying to become a leet dev to know what's what
As for the op s original question... is it impossible? I used to yes to a lot if these things in pre sbrissen days... but now ill just say its unlikely
Most sense related things are extremely hard or too difficult to get working because of how heavily they are tied to the htc frameworks and resources
At best it would be too work for someone to get it working... so I doubt anyone would really take a stab at it... but then again who knows
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As for the op s original question... is it impossible? I used to yes to a lot if these things in pre sbrissen days... but now ill just say its unlikely
Most sense related things are extremely hard or too difficult to get working because of how heavily they are tied to the htc frameworks and resources
At best it would be too work for someone to get it working... so I doubt anyone would really take a stab at it... but then again who knows
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With that being cleared out is it possible to port a whole sense UI rom to our phones?
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JeezyMT3G said:
With that being cleared out is it possible to port a whole sense UI rom to our phones?
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It's been attempted several times from the og Droid to the sgs phones... and its never been completely successful.... I don't think 3g has ever been usable and there is usual hideous lag
Basically if you want the full sense experience your have to buy an htc phone
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With that being cleared out is it possible to port a whole sense UI rom to our phones?
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It's actually quite simple to get it ported and booting. It's just that NOTHING will work, and it'll be laggy. With a ton of time invested in it, it probably could be done, but it'd be extremely difficult.
Either way, what we have now is spectacular, just that it'd be pretty sick to see some sense integration. Especially that lockscreen. The launcher can be replaced, as well as icons and system menus etc. Not lockscreens. Thanks for all the answers people!
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Either way, what we have now is spectacular, just that it'd be pretty sick to see some sense integration. Especially that lockscreen. The launcher can be replaced, as well as icons and system menus etc. Not lockscreens. Thanks for all the answers people!
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Yep. As much as I, and many others, would love ports of other skins(especially Sense), getting them to work is near impossible.
I'm good with miui on my Fascinate
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Ive seen it done on other android devices, So why not on a Atrix?
On which other devices did you saw the Sense?
The sense is a close code project of HTC, and can not realy be installed successfuly on non-HTC devices.
You can use themed launchers that has the looks and sometimes the widgets of the sense, as showed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053409&highlight=sense
but actually install Sense on devices that dont come with sense in the first place is not really possible (to be more accurate, it is even quite complicate to put sense on devices that do come with lower versions of sense or sensed android....).
wow, i searched "HTC sense" in this forum and the FIRST result (other than your topic) was:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053409
SEARCH.
Not to stick up for the OP but he is talking about actually potting sense to atrix. Your post above is about a mock sense using different launchers and themes
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wow, i searched "HTC sense" in this forum and the FIRST result (other than your topic) was:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053409
SEARCH.
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The above ^^ is for you
AndreaCristiano said:
Not to stick up for the OP but he is talking about actually potting sense to atrix. Your post above is about a mock sense using different launchers and themes
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you can't port sense UI to this phone. the only relevant solution is what i linked to.
Here is a Sense rom for the Nexus One:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995445
I have the official sense launcher, for dext, getting home ill try it on the atrix
The Sense framework is deeply embedded. I see that there may be a Nexus port but that's a developer phone with tons of active devs. We haven't even achieved an unlocked bootloader so Sense is as far out of reach as it comes.
If you're looking for Sense your best bet is to get an HTC device that supports it natively. rmk40 has a Sensation now and is super pumped to start developing for it. He always develops extremely clean, fast and highly optimized ROMS with relative tweak and minimal bloat. I'm positive that once the Sensation bootloader is unlocked he'll be pumping out the good stuff. I can't wait!
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The Sense framework is deeply embedded. I see that there may be a Nexus port but that's a developer phone with tons of active devs. We haven't even achieved an unlocked bootloader so Sense is as far out of reach as it comes.
If you're looking for Sense your best bet is to get an HTC device that supports it natively. rmk40 has a Sensation now and is super pumped to start developing for it. He always develops extremely clean, fast and highly optimized ROMS with relative tweak and minimal bloat. I'm positive that once the Sensation bootloader is unlocked he'll be pumping out the good stuff. I can't wait!
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I know that. Im just saying that there is a Sense ROM out there.
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I know that. Im just saying that there is a Sense ROM out there.
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I know. I'm just being the bearer of bad news and putting it into painful perspective though... lol
I know there are some tweaks and similar apps out there but it just doesn't compare. People ***** and moan about Sense being slow and bloated, but rmk40's ROMs are absolutely beautiful. Now that we have a lot more tweaks for our Atrix devices I'm still really pleased, but I still desire the HTC Sense experience again. I freeze lots of apps but things like the Social Dialer and other widgets are just too beautiful to pass up.
Chubby_Skunk said:
Here is a Sense rom for the Nexus One:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995445
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The N1 is an HTC phone... not surprising in the least that it would work.
dLo GSR said:
The N1 is an HTC phone... not surprising in the least that it would work.
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HTC just made it. Google runs it.
dLo GSR said:
you can't port sense UI to this phone. the only relevant solution is what i linked to.
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Yes but tour link noy only didnt answer what the op was asking. Your attitude didn't help with an inccorrect post. All you had to do was explain that sense is closed and propriotery and very difficult to port to an open phone let alone a locked down one like the atrix
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HTC just made it. Google runs it.
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HTC made the hardware, architecture, put together the components, etc. It's basically an HTC Desire, or rather, the Desire is an upgraded N1.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire-vs-google-nexus-one-2074966/
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Yes but tour link noy only didnt answer what the op was asking. Your attitude didn't help with an inccorrect post. All you had to do was explain that sense is closed and propriotery and very difficult to port to an open phone let alone a locked down one like the atrix
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lol lol
I see what you guys are saying, and yeah I wanted a rom, but oh well. Though, is there an open source project, or any alternatives apart from launchers and themes?
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not right now after 2.3.3 there will be because it seems the bootloader is unlockable then.
Is there a release date for 2.3.3?
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Right now all we know is July
Is it possible to get sense on Optimus V?
well combine CM7, a sense style theme, LP Sense UI, Fancy Widgets with H7C skins... you can get something that is sense-ish
i doubt we'll ever see anything closer to sense on the Optimus V
Thats what i thought :/
well
I did do some looking on youtube and cam across this http://youtu.be/PzlBijNUbnc an I was amazed but I don't know how he got it like that.
I think it would be pretty much impossible for us or most other non htc based phones to ever see a sense based rom, I believe the major reason is because of legality issues with it. Don't quote me on that though. I'd love to see it happen, but it just wouldn't be worth it for any devs
someone ported it to the optimus p500 and has a thread on it. It's very much possible and would probably be a huge pita.
Yeah i could see some trouble with legality. I did see something over on android central, it was a fully themed HTC Espresso ROM which i think would be pretty cool to have. However, the link was to a google docs file share and the file was gone
but, by the time i can afford a Moto Triumph they're will probably be quite a few ROM's out. I know they've already rooted with Gingerbreak. savin up my money
Probably something I did awhile back. The legality isn't/hasn't ever been an issue. It's just getting everything to work right. I did a cm7 theme (it's on the market) it's missing some things and right now I been making my own roms so that the lockscreen can look like it should and a couple other things.
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Yeah i could see some trouble with legality. I did see something over on android central, it was a fully themed HTC Espresso ROM which i think would be pretty cool to have. However, the link was to a google docs file share and the file was gone
but, by the time i can afford a Moto Triumph they're will probably be quite a few ROM's out. I know they've already rooted with Gingerbreak. savin up my money
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I have that espresso rom and will pm it to anyone who wants it. Also, my sense theme is very accurate. There are threads about it in the optimus v themes thread, and the Motorola triumph theme thread. I hope you aren't disappointed if you try it out.
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I have that espresso rom and will pm it to anyone who wants it. Also, my sense theme is very accurate. There are threads about it in the optimus v themes thread, and the Motorola triumph theme thread. I hope you aren't disappointed if you try it out.
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I'm interested in trying it out.
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Hey guys, basically I'm here to ask what kinda roms most users of the Thunderbolt like to use. I been playing with an idea to do something for yall. I don't have a Thunderbolt though so it wouldn't be anything sharp like ICS. I would probably want to do something based off of yalls OTA just to sort of get the feel for things first. I've did about 8 roms for the HTC Droid Incredible so I could kinda find my way without to much help I guess.
Anyways, I'm not sure if I will or not. i just wanted to see what yall think first.
I'll put in a poll to help decide.
well the answer to will I work on this device is starting to look pretty much answered, lol. We'll see though.
hell yeah wildstang,
glad to see you over here, loved your roms, as well as jermaines ran em both on my dinc
Build it and they will come....lol
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Jester1614 said:
hell yeah wildstang,
glad to see you over here, loved your roms, as well as jermaines ran em both on my dinc
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Ah well thanks bud. I really appreciate that. Jermaines over on the Rezound now. I'm so jealous, lol
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Build it and they will come....lol
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Thats a good concept. I just wouldn't want to put to much effort into something that I would never get to see or use my self especially if others here don't really want it. But I'm just gonna leave this open for a little while longer. Who knows, maybe I'll get a hundred votes tonight, lol
one thing that absolutely kills a rom for me is if I am unable to change apn settings
this is because I need to change them for mms to work on my carrier (cricket). If I cant change em, i cant use the rom. That is one thing i liked across yours and jermaines roms.
I knew instantly when i got my dinc I was a sense fan (in my opinion its way better than aosp interface) but as sense versions got higher 2.0 2.5. 3.0......... It really slowed my phone down compared to aosp roms...................... and then i found the minimalist roms............. and i was in heaven
so make a minimalist sense rom............... lol
I got rid of my inc before i found your roms but have been loading them on my friends inc, and i can say that they were smooth for me. Wouldn't mind dropping one of yours on my thunderbolt. After you figure your way around maybe a possible sense 3.5 rom! Just saying that'd be great. haha
I really like gingeritis3d by chingy510.. He has slowed down on his development do to school though.
What I like about his rom is that it is 2.1 based. 2.1 roms run alot better on my tb. He has added the 3d carrousel which I think most people look for and he incorporated the sexy smooth rosie that was developed by someone else here on xda.
The rom could benefit with more tweaks options, like 4g toggle and more quick settings. just my 2 cents. Thanks for your interest in deving for the bolt!
I personally use liquid gingerbread, its fast, light, and highly customizable. Please please please stay away from sense 3.5.
I know ill get flamed but please include the music player with beats Some people like that "eq" setting,and if they don't like it they don't have to use it.
Second the above post not a fan of sense 3.5
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I am sorry for bringing this up. I know how you guys feel about ICS posts.
But since the designated ALL ICS thread is so cluttered. I felt compelled to ask on a separate thread because this is a real issue.
When I saw a video demonstration that Samsung and Google did about ICS... I saw much more attractive features than I have received with my current update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-AZ08wCwJA
I don't see half this stuff that I saw on the demo!!!
I want the stock dialer, the lock screen, ect.
STUPID SENSE I HATE YOU!
Now that we have S-OFF and ICS ..... lets work on a way to get that stock look going!!! Yay!
mznatnat said:
I am sorry for bringing this up. I know how you guys feel about ICS posts.
But since the designated ALL ICS thread is so cluttered. I felt compelled to ask on a separate thread because this is a real issue.
When I saw a video demonstration that Samsung and Google did about ICS... I saw much more attractive features than I have received with my current update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-AZ08wCwJA
I don't see half this stuff that I saw on the demo!!!
I want the stock dialer, the lock screen, ect.
STUPID SENSE I HATE YOU!
Now that we have S-OFF and ICS ..... lets work on a way to get that stock look going!!! Yay!
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#1 i am developing cm9,AOKP and an stock AOSP rom for the phone and you can do this by just taking apks from the cm9 nightlies and replacing the ones in here
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#1 i am developing cm9,AOKP and an stock AOSP rom for the phone and you can do this by just taking apks from the cm9 nightlies and replacing the ones in here
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I know this may be a bit cocky of me to ask this.... but would you be able to inform me ASAP when you create an ICS rom without this bullsh!t sense crap....
HTC really found a way to destroy the fantastic features of ICS....
Even the timelapse support on the camera.... LIKE WTF!?
mznatnat said:
I know this may be a bit cocky of me to ask this.... but would you be able to inform me ASAP when you create an ICS rom without this bullsh!t sense crap....
HTC really found a way to destroy the fantastic features of ICS....
Even the timelapse support on the camera.... LIKE WTF!?
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Here is the rom thread it is pre alpha
sportsstar89 said:
Here is the rom thread it is pre alpha
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I would go with that but I need a working camera, gsm, wifi, bluetooth, .... i don't really use nfc tho so idk
mznatnat said:
I would go with that but I need a working camera, gsm, wifi, bluetooth, .... i don't really use nfc tho so idk
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Yea that's why its pre alpha
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Yea that's why its pre alpha
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Yeah that sucks when they leaked the ICS update didn't they also leak the radio drivers too?
mznatnat said:
Yeah that sucks when they leaked the ICS update didn't they also leak the radio drivers too?
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They did its just about implementing them and building a new kernel
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They did its just about implementing them and building a new kernel
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The waiting is the worst part of all of this. But you know what, I love XDA. If it wasn't for all you guys at XDA I'd probably go crazy.
mznatnat said:
I am sorry for bringing this up. I know how you guys feel about ICS posts.
But since the designated ALL ICS thread is so cluttered. I felt compelled to ask on a separate thread because this is a real issue.
When I saw a video demonstration that Samsung and Google did about ICS... I saw much more attractive features than I have received with my current update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-AZ08wCwJA
I don't see half this stuff that I saw on the demo!!!
I want the stock dialer, the lock screen, ect.
STUPID SENSE I HATE YOU!
Now that we have S-OFF and ICS ..... lets work on a way to get that stock look going!!! Yay!
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Download apex launcher from the market and relax...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher
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As soon as someone gets the leak deodexed I'll be working on a very slimmed down sense that will be very much like Aosp. I'm already running the stock launcher with aosp apps and much of Sense taken out. I just can't really distribute it until a deodexed version is made first.
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Download apex launcher from the market and relax...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher
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yep cause this is how i did mine until dev release something
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25276686#post25276686
Sense is way much sexier. Aosp just got boring.
glacierguy said:
Download apex launcher from the market and relax...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher
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See... I knew there was a reason to why I like you so much (not in a sexual way or anything) .... I just spent a sh!t load of money on lock screens and phone dialers lol....
This will save me one extra headache...
I wonder if this has a paid version or if the developer is a generous person
craigtut said:
As soon as someone gets the leak deodexed I'll be working on a very slimmed down sense that will be very much like Aosp. I'm already running the stock launcher with aosp apps and much of Sense taken out. I just can't really distribute it until a deodexed version is made first.
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I am looking forward to seeing a rom from you..... Please keep me informed!
I hope your joking now like really.
Android 4.0 is AOSP
Android 4.0 Sense 3.6 is Sense.
Of course there not 100% the same..
just Calm, my friend
glacierguy said:
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That is a great recommendation. I tried it this morning and love it.
Thanks gg.
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AOSP
Not a sense fan, give me strait AOSP or if I have to CM9.
Thanks for the effort!
mznatnat said:
I am sorry for bringing this up. I know how you guys feel about ICS posts.
But since the designated ALL ICS thread is so cluttered. I felt compelled to ask on a separate thread because this is a real issue.
When I saw a video demonstration that Samsung and Google did about ICS... I saw much more attractive features than I have received with my current update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-AZ08wCwJA
I don't see half this stuff that I saw on the demo!!!
I want the stock dialer, the lock screen, ect.
STUPID SENSE I HATE YOU!
Now that we have S-OFF and ICS ..... lets work on a way to get that stock look going!!! Yay!
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what exactly do you not like about sense, or think that HTC has made worse. I'm not taking sides, just wanted to know what those things are! I havn't upgraded myself yet, but was wondering. a list would be awesome Thanks.
The last few weeks I've talked to many of you about a little project I was lucky to be involved in with a good friend of mine, Tonekneeo, and I promised you guys I would keep you updated.
Rather than trying to reply to each PM and remember which gtalk people asked me about it, I decided to kill a whole bunch of birds with one stone.
This rom is sense 3.6 based but it's designed from the ground up to be run as sense, senseless, and with the MIUI style launcher, depending on the kind of mood you're in. It's a really clean little lean and mean rom that has amazing performance and get's me the best battery life I've seen on my rezound even though I've been tethering. The eye candy and theming is gorgeous in my opinion, a sophisticated yet fun theme that I find very classy in the base version and he's rolling out custom theming constantly so there's still several colors yet to come.
http://www.teambamf.net/topic/4008-rom-tonked-rezound-rom/
Tone has a lot of projects in the works and I'll be helping out with the development as he teaches me the tricks of the trade, so feedback is always appreciated.
Giving it a shot now
ReZound
AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heya Charlie! Nice work, keep it up. Downloading now and probably run this as my daily. Will see what I can do about getting you a themed SGS3 Launcher(think its called SecLauncher2.apk) to add in also (if you want?).
JSYK, there's a separate forum for ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1392
1) Data Arrows Working?
2) For those who installed it, how does it run compared to CleanROM Pro?
3) What ICS Leak is it based off of?
Great to see something different, nice work..
glad to see there is another thing for me to flash thank you
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JSYK, there's a separate forum for ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1392
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yeah, but if he's not supporting it over here, then not good to put it in the dev section.
EtherBoo said:
1) Data Arrows Working?
2) For those who installed it, how does it run compared to CleanROM Pro?
3) What ICS Leak is it based off of?
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Data arrows are working. It's based off of the 5/7 leak I believe unless something has just changed. Tone will be doing another rom based on the newest leak and I'm sure once it's ready for main stream we will create more rom threads and such.
I'm good with it being moved but I really don't think this is for the development section. I'm not the developer and I'm not creating a rom thread or supporting the rom. I don't think the development section should be crapped up with general information like this.
How about gsm? Can be a fully gsm ?
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Will this screw up or compliment this rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659132
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This rom IS smooth! We'll see how it does for battery life, just took it off the charger!
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Data arrows are working. It's based off of the 5/7 leak I believe unless something has just changed. Tone will be doing another rom based on the newest leak and I'm sure once it's ready for main stream we will create more rom threads and such.
I'm good with it being moved but I really don't think this is for the development section. I'm not the developer and I'm not creating a rom thread or supporting the rom. I don't think the development section should be crapped up with general information like this.
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Thanks. CleanROM runs pretty well for me right now, and I absolutely HATE HATE HATE reromming and setting everything back up. That's one of the reasons I love CM9 so much... I can update and not wipe out everything I've done.
I'll give this a try once it's updated to the newest leak, or whatever version ends up being the final ICS update.
Do you plan on having a senseless version?
this rom is sweeet! It really should go in the dev section!
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Do you plan on having a senseless version?
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I think the whole point is to have choice on the same rom (rosie, miui and senseless)
maniac2k said:
Do you plan on having a senseless version?
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It is senseless, but it has the rosie launcher as an option which I like. Just don't expect much of the sense widgets to be there, most are removed.
This rom definitely deserves more attention. This is with the stock battery. I used wifi basically the whole time but look at that screen time!!
EclipseX said:
How about gsm? Can be a fully gsm ?
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