This post should possibly be on a BMW forum, but my SGS1 worked with my car, my new SGS2 does not...
My car is invisible to the phone and visa versa. I have had the phone for a few days only, so have time to return if if needs be, but of course I'd rather not!
I did not try it with stock ROM but it does not work with either Lite'ning or VillainROM.
Any ideas? (other than try it with stock rom!
tx
Mark
First make sure you set the phone to be discoverable lol. Otherwise...
Model/year? iDrive equipped? If so, CCC or CIC?
My SGSII on VR1.1 works fine with a 2010 X5M with the CIC nav system.
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yamanote said:
First make sure you set the phone to be discoverable lol. Otherwise...
Model/year? iDrive equipped? If so, CCC or CIC?
My SGSII on VR1.1 works fine with a 2010 X5M with the CIC nav system.
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Hi
My car is a 2008 320d and it does not have iDrive, but has the Professional audio system.
Its really frustrating as my previous phones as well as my wife's iphone all connect with no problem.
Thanks,
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hi
My car is a 2008 320d and it does not have iDrive, but has the Professional audio system.
Its really frustrating as my previous phones as well as my wife's iphone all connect with no problem.
Thanks,
Mark.
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I had a 2009 RRS which I'm pretty sure had the same non-integrated Bluetooth as it was sourced from BMW. Older phones worked fine with it but all the newer phones I tried either connected once then failed or never connected. I have a friend with a 2011 7er and the SGS2 paired with it fine.
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I had a 2009 RRS which I'm pretty sure had the same non-integrated Bluetooth as it was sourced from BMW. Older phones worked fine with it but all the newer phones I tried either connected once then failed or never connected. I have a friend with a 2011 7er and the SGS2 paired with it fine.
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Hmmm
I may have to return my SGS2 because this is definitely a deal breaker!
Tx
Mark
fredphoesh said:
Hmmm
I may have to return my SGS2 because this is definitely a deal breaker!
Tx
Mark
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I traded in the car
Probably an incompatibility problem with the older Bluetooth system then.
Short of wiring in an aftermarket bluetooth module I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
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Hmmm
I may have to return my SGS2 because this is definitely a deal breaker!
Tx
Mark
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Sell the car or install a Parrot
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Sell the car or install a Parrot
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hi there
tx
I saw the parrot online today, but its a whole bloody other system, so some more crap to put on my dashboard... UGLY!
What i'd like is (apparently non-existent) a bluetooth bridge, which pairs to older cars and newer phones (or visa versa if you are kinky)
Mark.
I have both a 2009 5 series and a 2011 MINI Cooper S (both have BMW bluetooth stacks) and the SGS2 pairs with no problem. In the 5 series I found that it did not show up immediately to be paired, but a restart of the phone and discoverable enabled it to show up (although slowly, but once it appeared pairing was enabled without a problem).
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I have both a 2009 5 series and a 2011 MINI Cooper S (both have BMW bluetooth stacks) and the SGS2 pairs with no problem. In the 5 series I found that it did not show up immediately to be paired, but a restart of the phone and discoverable enabled it to show up (although slowly, but once it appeared pairing was enabled without a problem).
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Same here, pairs up with my GT-R instantly as long as bluetooth is toggled on the phone. My previous unbranded SGS GT-i9100 also paired up with the GT-R with no problems.
I have the same combination as you : 320d 2008 and Sgs 2 . Works without any issues , even better than my old nokia . Does your phone pair with other BT devices (like a hands-free, or a laptop) ?
mariusi said:
I have the same combination as you : 320d 2008 and Sgs 2 . Works without any issues , even better than my old nokia . Does your phone pair with other BT devices (like a hands-free, or a laptop) ?
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Hi,
The car pairs easily with my wife's iphone 3gs.
I had another 320d 2008 before this one (changed body type from saloon to estate) and the previous one had no problems with my SGS1 but my new car struggled but eventually got my SGS1. Now with my SGS2 there is NO sign of anything!
The bluetooth in the car never did find anything though, it was always the phone that found the car, and then the car responded and I entered the code and all was fine...
The phone "sees" all sorts of other cars passing by, other phones, other headsets... so the phone is ok, just the bluetooth on the SGS2 is obviously not backwards compatible, which is a massive bummer.
Mark.
you probably just need a software update from BMW of your system.
A part of that update is adding various new handsets for compatability to the bluetooth system.
I have a 320cd 2003 and my SGS2 connects to its bluetooth no problem. So def not a backwards compatiblity problem as mine is older than yours.
I would recommend a software Update for your car too.
No problem here with an 2011 120d.
try resetting your car BT, clear all settings
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I have a 320cd 2003 and my SGS2 connects to its bluetooth no problem. So def not a backwards compatiblity problem as mine is older than yours.
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Hi guys
Hmmm interesting.
When I had my SGS1 and changed from the 2008 saloon to the 2008 estate and the SGS stopped working with the car, I went to the BMW dealer and they said they do not upgrade the bluetooth. I was shocked since it cant be too hard, and for a company so big on being green (auto stop start etc) making things obsolete before the warranty has expired is pretty harsh.
I dont know how to reset bluetooth on the car, I can switch BT off, but there is no phone in the memory to clear, so dont know how to get the car to reset it's bluetooth. My car has the "Professional" sound system ie the built in bluetooth with steering wheel control.
Any further tips most welcome... but the BWM garage said there is nothing wrong with it, it's my phone.
tx
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hi guys
Hmmm interesting.
When I had my SGS1 and changed from the 2008 saloon to the 2008 estate and the SGS stopped working with the car, I went to the BMW dealer and they said they do not upgrade the bluetooth. I was shocked since it cant be too hard, and for a company so big on being green (auto stop start etc) making things obsolete before the warranty has expired is pretty harsh.
I dont know how to reset bluetooth on the car, I can switch BT off, but there is no phone in the memory to clear, so dont know how to get the car to reset it's bluetooth. My car has the "Professional" sound system ie the built in bluetooth with steering wheel control.
Any further tips most welcome... but the BWM garage said there is nothing wrong with it, it's my phone.
tx
Mark.
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read the manual, I'm sure it will tell you how to reset it in there. mine invovled pressing the BT button for 10 sec or somthing after turning ignition on.
no such thing as a bluetooth reset on my 2008 bmw
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Hi
there is nothing in the manual about resetting bluetooth.
I called the BMW dealership twice today and spoke to service, both times asked if my phone is on the "compatible list". I said I would not consider buying a phone that was obsolete 2 years ago so I could find something in their very outdated list.
One guy said pulling the battery is the only way to "reset" the electronics, another guy said there is no point in that, you cannot reset it.
They were both baffled that people on this forum have older BMW's that pair to the very same phone.
Tomorrow I pull the battery out and also try pairing my wife's 3Gs for the hell of it.
Tx again,
Mark.
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I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern.
The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory.
The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest.
I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me.
Ideas are greatly appreciated.
remote
there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone.
Does that get you anywhere?
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Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
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Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55.
The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
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It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes
FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items.
One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration.
The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1.
The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
Do0zman said:
Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance.
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits
JJbdoggg said:
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price...
I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips.
I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth.
It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options:
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938
Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
Sorry to hear that. I have so far no problems with connecting my phone to my built in BT system. I have a Mazda 2010. I stream music and get incoming calls too.
I used a bt headset for an hour long conference call this morning. No lost connections yet. Reboot doesn't help?
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Nope, rebooting doesn't help. BT on the Atrix works just fine with my Panasonic house phone that has BT on it.
I had the same issue today in my 2010 Dodge Ram. Captivate worked great in it, but the Atrix dropped the BT/Call after 30-45 seconds or so. I haven't noticed it dropping connection when I'm not using the phone (I have an icon on my ent/nav headunit), only saw the icon disappear when on a call.
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My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
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OK, so I messed with it some more...
If I'm super-fast, I can dial from the car's BT system-- and the name of the phone does appear on the car's Nav. That is, until the phone and/or car drops the connection.
I've asked for help on Motorola's forum, and been tracking down a Product Manager @ ATT to get the word up the chain.
I have the same issue with my 04 3-Series. I posted about this in the Problem forum.
No bt issues here. I used it yesterday with a car kit/fm transmitter to stream Slacker and nav simultaneously to my stereo for a couple of hours and it worked great.
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I have the same issue with my 04 3-Series. I posted about this in the Problem forum.
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Think we've got the same BT ULF's in our car. Please let me know if you find a solution, and I'll do the same.
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Sorry to hear that. I have so far no problems with connecting my phone to my built in BT system. I have a Mazda 2010. I stream music and get incoming calls too.
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Can you skip forward and back and pause?
I could with the iphone but have not been able to get it to work with android.
The weirdest bit is that I got it to work for Pandora ONCE... then never again.
I think it has something to do with the way android treats certain devices... I have motorola BT stereo headphones that the controls worked for WinMo W7 and iphone, but do not work on any android device I've tried.
I also lose connection with the in car BT occaisionally but not very often and can usually get it to reconnect without much hassle.
2010 mazda 3.
Exwoodchuck said:
My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
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Just because it worked with your iPhones doesn't mean the BT module isn't faulty...it might just have trouble accepting connections from certain things. Not to say the phone's *not* at fault, but don't assume it's the phone when there's a chance it could still be the phone.
I have a kenwood bluetooth module in my receiver that worked perfectly with every phone until I got an iPhone 4 (even previous iPhones worked fine). It wouldn't connect and finally when I got it to work the sound quality was horrendous (most people couldn't understand a single word). I thought the phone was obviously bad until I contacted Kenwood and they sent me a beta driver for the bluetooth module in the receiver. Updated the driver and it worked perfectly.
I agree- the BT module *could* be fault, but given that it works with all iphones and my BB Bold, I'd have to say that it's more than likely something to do with the way the Atrix/Android handles the connection.
Others are now chiming in on the Motorola Forum about this issue- including someone who has a newer BMW BT module than I have - he's also got the same issue. There's also a Dodge owner earlier in this thread that's got the same problem.
On a whim, I copied 20 contacts to the SIM, thinking that might be the problem.
Same results.
i also had bt pairing problems with my ford sync, and it seems to be android related as it also happened with my n1.
couple things to try that should help: disable wireless and make sure you aren't using the power widget on one of your home screens. also, i used autostarts to unbind the media button pressed event, and between those three things, the bt works fine...
Tried an experiement-- copied some contacts to the SIM.
Same issue- phone connects/disconnect/connects/disconnects for good.
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I agree- the BT module *could* be fault, but given that it works with all iphones and my BB Bold, I'd have to say that it's more than likely something to do with the way the Atrix/Android handles the connection.
Others are now chiming in on the Motorola Forum about this issue- including someone who has a newer BMW BT module than I have - he's also got the same issue. There's also a Dodge owner earlier in this thread that's got the same problem.
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Apparently you read my post...but didn't understand it completely.
My previous receiver worked *PERFECTLY* with all phones but the iPhone 4. I used about 20+ phones with it without a single problem...but the iPhone 4 wouldn't connect 3/4 of the time, and when it did it didn't transfer any contacts and when I made a call the sound quality was *very* bad. I obviously assumed it was the iPhone 4 until I tried another one with it...turned out it *WAS* the receiver having an older firmware that wasn't compatible with the iPhone 4.
The reason a lot of Audis and BMWs aren't working with a few Android phones (the Atrix being one of them) isn't because Android is designed poorly...it's because the firmware in the receivers doesn't handle the Android setup well. The reason most people can connect but can't get contacts is because the way BMW/Audis poll for Contact lists doesn't work with Android. The car manufacturers haven't spent the time required to realize this and put out a correction. You should be complaining to BMW or Audi about this (whichever type you own) and trying to get them to release an updated BT Stack for your receiver (they might say it's not possible but it is).
Thanks for the clarification.
I doubt that BMW is going to release a firmware upgrade for my BT module - its out of production, and it's already 'state of the art', circa 2006 when they stopped producing them. I've read of other issues with newer BMW and other cars still having issues with the Phonebook upload, which is where I think the problem lies. It doesn't seem to be isolated to older cars either- I've read of 2010 models having the same issue I've got, and not just from European makers.
Digging around, this is a common theme with Android and BT not playing nicely-- many other phone manufactures have released patches/updates to correct similar issues, and I'm hoping that with the Atrix being the 'biggest and baddest', that Motorola sees fit to do the same. I've got a $600 fully integrated factory BT system thats now useless, and I'd sure like to have it working again.
I sometimes forget that I've got another BT-enabled car to test on -- a 2010 Audi A3.
My Atrix paired with no issue, then popped up with a message in the Notification area about allowing access to the Contacts. Ahh-hah! When paired to my BMW, I never get that message. So... the BMW appears to be unable to complete the handshake for PBAP access, and when it fails, it drops.
After syncing with my BMW I do not get the PBAP confirmation.
I did not get the confirmation with my Inspire 4G either but that phone DID work just fine. Contacts and audio would work and never had a drop out when I had the phone.
So there is a way to "fix" this issue without updating the vehicles BT.
Tested with my car bluetooth with 2 calls for ~30 mins in all today morning. Worked fine. It stayed paired on all the time.
I know there are a variety of posts of many flavors in regards to OEM in car bluetooth handsfree systems. Some for unbranded i9100, some for the AT&T i777
For anyone out there with the knowledge: Is there anyway to find a task automater (like a macro) to lets say automatically activate the bluetooth button for the paired device, lets say 1 second after Bluetooth turns on. In connection with Auto Bluetooth app (like the ones which turns on when motion is detected) it could be automated. I would do it, except I don't know how to write program code.
I am thinking like "if bluetooth turned on, wait 1 second, trigger paired device input" . Because in that case it would connect (automatically) in most cases I though many many people posting around here.
Anybody any idea?
I am trying to connect my Galaxy S2 with they system in my 2011 Jaguar XJ. I never had a problem with my BlackBerrys. The BlackBerry autoconnects the moment I start the car and all functions work.
Absolutely not so with my S2. It seems that differnet car manufacturers differing systems which use BLuetooth differently. Some work, some don't .
Let me clearify the problem. Phone does NOT AUTOCONNECT and it drives me nuts. Before i just got in the car and never pulled the phone out of my pocket. Now I have to pull it out and manually connect.
I am posting as I may save some of you some time. I tried everything up and down the list. About every Bluetooth apps in the market place. Free or paid. Really pretty much all of them. Nothing worked. I upgraded to the (leaked) UCKJ1 and back to the original UCKH1. I rooted and unrooted.
To no avail. All I can do is use a shortcut widget to save me a few menues to navigate.
So for the ones with the same problem; you know all the things I tried. Don't waste your time.
It takes two devices to successfuly connect. If a connection doesn't happen, you can't blame just one device. My ISGS2 auto-connects to all of my devices (AV receiver, headset, PC, car, portable speaker, G-Tab) automatically every time. I get you're upset, but you can't single the phone out alone. As for cars, in the ISGS2 forum, non-iDrive (older) BMW's were the majority of the problem.
Same here. I have no problem auto connect to my BT devices. But when it comes to BT auto connections, problems are common. Both sides of the BT connection can be the cause.
Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Mine connects flawlessly in my 2010 Camaro SS.
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Hi, Thanks to all for the responses. I completely agree that it takes two devices to do it right and I am fully keeping that in mind. I have 2 more cars I can try with. So I will check if it works with my wife's Lexus and with my Clarion system in another car I have.
It just is, that my BlackBerry (which I don't miss at all) simply did the job perfect. Obviously I can't tweak anything on the car side as that is next to impossible. There is no open source code and all is so proprietary.
So the only hope I have is to figure out a way to teach my SGSII.
Again thanks for the input. I do absolutely LOVE my Galaxy S2 (i777) therefore this is a simply irritating that I have to push buttons when I get in the car.
Hearing that it works for most of you is well, good for you and not so good for me.
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Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Well, I will experiment a bit more and I will share what I will find in case others have similar problems.
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
Entropy512 said:
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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Hello,
I have to fully agree with Entropy512. Bluetooth compatibility is a disaster. Especially after all the years around. Not sure who, what and where is deciding on BT specs, drafts and so forth.
I know that with car systems it is a hit and miss. But it doesn't have to be. We all know that. I was digging on my good old Jaguar forum. What I found confirms exactly what we are saying.
Earlier Samsung Androids barely could hold a connection on Jaguars systems. Just with later versions and Gingerbread that was resolved. And none of the Samsungs autoconnect to any Jaguar system. And that is the same for Audi, Merceds and Subaru and probably some others. According to the Jag forum Samsung knows about this and worked on it.
But here is the main problem. On my wife's Lexus and on my Clarion head unit in my van it works like a charm. Automatically connects without a hitch. I understand Samsung can fix that but than it may not work on other cars. But how come BlackBerry was able to do what the Samsung unit can't???
And yes, some features like phonebook, direct dial and so forth are totally hit and miss. How do car unit manufacturers test? With what? Just one phone from 3 years ago? Same with the phone manufacturers. Is anybody talking? Seriously, why can't car head units manufacturers and phone manufacturers not figure out how to get on the same page? Car BT is becoming a standard equipment. So do BT enabled phones, no matter smart phones or what have you. There are not that many head unit manufacturers. So they can't agree on a standard which then can be used by the devolpers for a decent BT stack for phones? Completely ridiculous. Can make phones talk to you like the Apple Siri but can't get a bluetooth connection.
OK, I got that off my chest. Now I will try to get to work. All I can do is working on the i777 side, because there is no acces to anything on the Jaguar side.
Funny thing is, my phone is always stating phonebook request when I get in the car. Eventhoug I turned phone book off in the car. So the phone "hears" the car. Just without hitting the profile for the car it won't connect.
Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Do you have problems with the Mazda taking too long to switch from "Music" mode to "Headset" mode, thus the vlingo voice prompt timing out? My mazda has that issue and it makes vlingo in the car pretty much useless.
I don't typically use voice commands but ill try. It has no issues taking and making calls then going right back to google music streaming.
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I am also experiencing sporadic problems with my SGS2 and 2011 VW Golf using BT. About 75% of the time, it auto-connects fine when I start up the car. The car lets me know it linked and I can make/receive calls through the car's BT system fine. Address book loads as well (though does require a secondary authorization on the phone the very first time you use it).
However, every once in a while it either can't "find" the phone, or goes into a continuing looping state of "paired/not-paired". Generally when I actually want to use it! When it can't find the phone, manually searching for it (on the car's system) usually rectifies it temporarily, but it may go to unpaired a few minutes later. And on occasion, it simply can't find it at all. When I reboot the phone, or disable/re-enable BT on the phone itself, this problem usually goes away. This makes me think it's more of an issue with the phone then the car.
I too came from a BlackBerry torch and never once had a single pairing problem with my car.
When paired, media streaming generally works well, but occasionally I have to stop/restart it a couple times in order for the car to 'see' the media stream and allow me to chose it as the input.
The problem that I have is that the sgs2 will not report signal level to the car, so the car always shows full signal, even if i have no signal.
And it doesn't connect to the car unless the phone is in the car when the car starts. If bluetooth is turned off, or if I leave the car and go out of range, I will have to open the settings and force a connection.
Problem Solved, Autoconnect now working
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
metalco said:
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
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I'm going to try this...
I've been having trouble with it automatically connecting to my 2011 WRX. My iPhone 4 always connected immediately, no problem. But the GS2 has yet to automatically connect, ever. It is paired fine and if I go into the Bluetooth settings, it is paired OK and I can manually tell it to connect. I've tried deleting the connection both from my head unit and the phone and recreating everything multiple times. Still no luck.
I'll try this and report back.
Bluetooth is def one of those technologies that could be enormously awesome but often has so much "fussiness" with it (due to incompatibilities or quirky behavior between varying BT devices) that it can easily become a right-royal PITA, IMO.
I've had quite a few Android phones over the years, now, and tried running both stock OS and many different ROMs on them with one of the expected primary functions of my phone to be as my main music player, including streaming music via BT/A2DP to my car stereo and this one function has ALWAYS proven to be the most frustrating experience. So yeah, I'll fully agree that whomever is "calling the shots" with setting up guidelines and specifications for BT and BT-based devices needs to get themselves an iron fist and put an end to this crap of inconsistent behavior and general flakiness.
When I got my AT&T SGS2 I was shocked to see that Samsung had done something to enable their stock music app to be able to transmit song metadata via BT. Android thus far has only supported AVRCP 1.0 (AFAIK) while you need AVRCP 1.3 (or higher) to be able to have metadata transmit over BT. At first I was ecstatic that FINALLY I could see my song info from my phone displayed on my car stereo while connected via BT. But then I found out that with the SGS2 and the stock music app my car stereo could no longer successfully send play/pause/forward/reverse commands to my phone! D'oh!!!
So then I went back to Poweramp (what I had been using for my primary music app on my previous phone; a Nexus S) and of course it wouldn't display the song metadata. But the big shocker was that it also couldn't recognize control commands issues from my car stereo! Not cool!
I did much tinkering and research and finally found that the music app PlayerPro would successfully work with my head unit (but still no metadata, of course) and so that's where I'm at.
Ridiculous, IMO. Nobody should have to endure such frustrating behavior with BT devices. I really wish somebody could straighten this kind of mess out in regards to Bluetooth and get things to "just work".
No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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OK, you can try one more thing;
Freeze all of those files: BluetoothPBAP, BluetoothShare and BluetoothAvrcp. If you have any other entries you can try freezing them, too. Just everything EXCEPT anything with a name like Brcm or BrcmBluetoothServices.
Just try it. And MAKE SURE to wipe cache after freezing, or better reboot. Also you want to make check they are in a "frozen" state after rebooting. I used "MyToolbox" and it worked perfect.
I haven't checked if I can still stream music, but I never use that anyways. I froze all of those and started unfreezing one by one. The experiment showed that in my case I only had to freeze the BluetoothShare. You may have to freeze the others, too.
Let me know how ot works. I am curious now.
Has anyone had any problem using the S3 in the car? I've got a factory fitted Bluetooth kit and it connects fine, but the other party cannot hear me at all. I can hear them fine though.
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Has anyone had any problem using the S3 in the car? I've got a factory fitted Bluetooth kit and it connects fine, but the other party cannot hear me at all. I can hear them fine though.
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works perfectly fine for me on my nissan altima 2010. however its unable to read contacts from the phone but i think thats an issue at the car's end.
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works perfectly fine for me on my nissan altima 2010. however its unable to read contacts from the phone but i think thats an issue at the car's end.
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Mine is an A Class Merc, had the same issue with an HTC One S, I wonder If the Bluetooth is different on these newer phones and it's broken something somewhere.
Same issue here I can hear them but they can't hear me. Using sgs 3 and have a 2011 merc sprinter 313
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Same issue here I can hear them but they can't hear me. Using sgs 3 and have a 2011 merc sprinter 313
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Interesting, just tried it in my wife's Vauxhall, no problem at all...crystal clear both ways.
Try a couple of times. As it is intermittent in my van. Works sometimes but most of the time it doesn't. Callers just can't hear me
Ended up selling it today, car kit is a must for me, so back to iPhone 4S
I did see on the avforum
Just out of interest did you try it a few times in the vauxhall more than once?
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I did see on the avforum
Just out of interest did you try it a few times in the vauxhall more than once?
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Hi...Fine in the Astra, definitely a Mercedes problem, as I picked up a Note today from Amazon, exactly the same problem. I can connect, and hear them, they can't hear me.....so back it goes!
This is very strange, tried a Galaxy Note with Gingerbread, same problem, updated via Kies to ICS ,ver 4.0.3 and it fixed it, worked perfectly....borrow a Galaxy S3 to try again, running ICS 4.0.4, same problem.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I have the same problem, worked fine the first time I connected and hasn't worked again since :-(
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My Bluetooth won't connect either, phone says paired but the car says otherwise, this might be a deal breaker for me in returning it... seeing I drive a lot.
bluetooth issue
I have same bluetooth problem in my 2012 mitsubishi work vehicle, i hear them they can't hear me. but works fine in wife's hyundai
antiapple said:
I have same bluetooth problem in my 2012 mitsubishi work vehicle, i hear them they can't hear me. but works fine in wife's hyundai
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Just bought a £100 Nokia 710 as an interim, works flawlessly in the car...
Just out of interest, to those of you with problems of the other person not hearing you can you still stream music through your car kit?
Yes I can.
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Yes, bluetooth audio works perfectly
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Just out of interest, to those of you with problems of the other person not hearing you can you still stream music through your car kit?
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Yes, bluetooth audio works perfectly
Potential resolution!
Posted this in another thread... should help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26959345&postcount=74
I have the exact same problem. I have a 2 year old Toyota Camry with a Toyota factory built-in car kit and since switching to the galaxy s3 nobody can hear my end of phone calls.
I can use the car kit to listen to music from the s3 and can even control the music with pause/stop/previous/next buttons from the carkit, but the problem is the microphone is dead.
The bluetooth connection actually takes the microphone function away from the phone over to the car kit, but then doesn't work... Previously I was using a HTC Desire and had no problems at all with the same setup...
I've tried unpairing the devices several times, but to no avail.
I'm not sure what to do next, but I can't change the car kit as it is a factory one and actually works really well with every other phone except for the galaxy S3.
Any help would be much appreciated. Taking the car back to the factory is quite annoying, I'm hoping there's an easier fix that can be done on the phone...
Works fine in my UK Honda Civic 2007. Does clash though with my HTC Car A100 bluetooth bridge - works fine on its own but the Media Audio pairing seems to stamp all over the Call Audio pairing so I am wondering if the S3 has a bug with splitting the 2 audio connections between 2 devices.
Could it be that you're hearing your caller through "Media Audio" & thus they are unable to hear you cos the pick-up mic on the phone is too far away/being noise cancelled instead of routing through the car's hands-free mic & being treated as "Call Audio" as it should?
I have noticed when i pair my SG3 with my Nissan Maxima, it pairs easily... but sometimes it just disconnects from the car.
After i turn off the car and restart it, the BT does not re-connect. Anyone else experience that? Are their any fixes?
The BT options have selections for Phone and audio (i am assuming for Pandora, etc)
i have only had it stream audio once playing a movie and it only kicked in after about 2 minutes.
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I have noticed when i pair my SG3 with my Nissan Maxima, it pairs easily... but sometimes it just disconnects from the car.
After i turn off the car and restart it, the BT does not re-connect. Anyone else experience that? Are their any fixes?
The BT options have selections for Phone and audio (i am assuming for Pandora, etc)
i have only had it stream audio once playing a movie and it only kicked in after about 2 minutes.
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I have this w/ my bluetooth when dialing, i have to tell it to repair. Not sure how to sync w/ bluetooth audio for Pandor or what not. I have a 2012 Murano. Is it an additional option?
i use a panasonic link2cell cordless phone and it does not autoconnect when i get home and come into range or turn on bluetooth.
that's my biggest complaint about the phone. My old captivate worked great it autoconnected as soon as i turned on blutooth or came into range. S3 requires i go into the settings for the device and manually connect. Not sure why they made it take 4 extra steps to do such a simple task and i hope they fix it soon.
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i use a panasonic link2cell cordless phone...
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I gather you are satisfied with your Panasonic. I purchased one last month...sound was poor for me. When I was on the phone with a friend he complained about how terrible I sounded over the phone.
I was disappointed that I had to return it.
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I gather you are satisfied with your Panasonic. I purchased one last month...sound was poor for me. When I was on the phone with a friend he complained about how terrible I sounded over the phone.
I was disappointed that I had to return it.
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yea i've had it for over a year and been really happy with it. I've only noticed poor SQ if i take the cell too far away from the base. I pretty much just plug my cell into a charger and leave it right next to the base station for the cordless because the range for BT isn't that great.
I also use an obi100 with google voice on the same cordless and have found that the L2C has better SQ than the obi/GV.
I pretty much make/answer all calls over the L2C and hardly use the obi/GV really. Just make sure you leave the cell near the L2C base.
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... Just make sure you leave the cell near the L2C base.
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Hmmm...maybe that was myk problem. While I didn't have it next to the base, I did keep it across the room, about 12' away.
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Hmmm...maybe that was myk problem. While I didn't have it next to the base, I did keep it across the room, about 12' away.
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probably. Every once in a while i will forget and leave cell in my pocket or something and walk too far away from the base station and then the SQ sucks... gets all scratchy.
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i used chat to find out how to make it automatically connect and go into the 'call audio profile' and this is what they said
"I am to inform you that, Galaxy S3 is designed with security purpose all in built in features are different compared with other devices this always seeks the permission of the user to access any thing it is designed with all business purpose features this is the reason that there is no built in feature to connect the device even it is paired."
lol
I also tried phone support and that guy tried to say it was because of the NFC lol.. when i called him out on that he basically said he didnt know but he 'escalated' my concern and i could try calling back in a couple of days to see if there was a work around.
I just want it to connect and use bluetooth device automatically after the intial pairing... S1 did it and so should the s3.
I know some of that security talk is true but I thought that was for a enterprise version of gs3 to be later released
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I also have a Nissan Maxima and experienced the same problem with connect/reconnect as well as issues with bluetooth streaming music. With the latest OTA update that was released last week by AT&T for the GS3, mine is working with no issues. It connects as expected, bluetooth audio streaming now works reliably, and the added the Bluetooth AVRCP profile which enables your car deck to display track, artist, and album info on the display. Sweet!
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...and the added the Bluetooth AVRCP profile which enables your car deck to display track, artist, and album info on the display. Sweet!
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Whoa! Cool. I'll have to try that.
Now if we could only use the Voice (whethter Google Voice search or S), while hooked to a car BT, that would be even better.