Share sim cards between Atrix and iPhone 4? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, First post long time reader. I am using my Atrix on Bell and was wondering if there's an easy way to swith between the iphone and Atrix. I used to swap sim cards with my blackberry, No bis but still worked. Could I just get a micro sim and an adapter and use the micro sim in my Atrix? Also am I able to operate on the same plan?
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Yes the adapter should work fine. A friend of mine did that with his iPhone 4 and his nexus one.
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I read a post hear on XDA where someone said he used an adapter for the i/Atrix, cant remember where or I would point you to it. I dont think you will have a prob w/ the data, it should be the same plan.

yes it'll work. im doing that now. plan will switch from iphone data plan to smartphone data plan. no biggy.

Ok perfect thanks alot guys. I know this shouldn't be in this forum but another question. Im pretty sure the iphone is locked to virgin on ios 4.3.3 with baseband 04.10.01 which is not unlockable at the moment from my understanding. But under Settings > General > About > Carrier it says "Bell 10.0". Will it work on bell since virgin is owned by bell in canada?
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Should do, I know here in Australia TPG Mobile - a company that runs off Optus reception towers - requires you to have an unlocked or optus locked handset.

Just so you know I'm doing it without an adaptator.
The Micro-SIM is held in place in the ATRIX SIM SLOT.

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[Q] Does the sim matter?

I am using the old sim from my backflip since the new one they gave me with the atrix didn't work! Does it matter what sim you are using with 4g?
i don't believe so i'm using the one from a very old lg incite to propel pro to iphone to this phone. it displays H+ on the screen and all.
Not particularly but the reason it won't work is most likely because its parked on your account waiting to be activated. If you still have it, try giving customer care a call and having them activate it. SIM cards do change and can affect your overall service.
P.s. Call from a different phone
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Gutterball said:
I am using the old sim from my backflip since the new one they gave me with the atrix didn't work! Does it matter what sim you are using with 4g?
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I've been using my 3G Sim card when I first got it. It doesn't make a difference in the speeds. AT&T has just been capping them and HSPA+ is in almost no cities.
SIM card DO make a lot more difference than most people think.. as they age they die just like all other technology, and so if you've been given a new SIM I suggest you call AT&T from a separate phone (so you don't get cut out mid conversation) and ask them to activate your new SIM.

Does this phone come with a SIM card when buying new from AT&T?

Just bought this phone new from AT&T (no commitment pricing), and it should be here within the next few days. I'm wondering if the phone out of the box includes a compatible SIM card? I'm coming from an iPhone 4, so I can't just stick my micro SIM card in if it doesn't. Even if I get a micro SIM to SIM adapter, would I be able to access the appropriate HSPA+ network with that? Much thanks if you can point me in the right direction.
Once you get the phone go to att and ask to get a new one for the phone they won't charge you anything
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Yes, AT&T always sends out a new SIM card with new phones. You can also ask for one at local AT&T store for free.
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Once you get the phone go to att and ask to get a new one for the phone they won't charge you anything
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Oh, good to hear. I wonder why the sell one then (whoops, can't post links to AT&T's site yet) or why others have to buy adapters?
I came from iphone also, and was bummed to learn micro sim doesn't work in the s2. The phone will ship with a new regular sized sim inside. so if you dont need to use your iphone 4 anymore, or dont want to, call 611 from your iphone before you do anything with the s2 and it will walk you through getting the new sim activated.
I ordered a micro sim adapter and it works great. Kind of annoying that you can't get the adapter free from ATT. The micro sim works fine on hspa+ also. so if you want to swap back and forth you can, just know that ATT wont help you with this.
Dranakin said:
Oh, good to hear. I wonder why the sell one then (whoops, can't post links to AT&T's site yet) or why others have to buy adapters?
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Kadernal said:
I ordered a micro sim adapter and it works great. Kind of annoying that you can't get the adapter free from ATT. The micro sim works fine on hspa+ also. so if you want to swap back and forth you can, just know that ATT wont help you with this.
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Oh, right. People like to switch back and forth between phones, but I thought the data services weren't compatible?
I drop my micro sim into my s2 and I get H+ up top and data speeds and call quality are the same... I could be wrong tho...
in my case I need to be able to use the iphone 4 on network for development.
H+ is defaulted because hspa+ uses the same towers as 3g and by assumption, most, if not all, 3g towers have been upgraded.
Call qualities aren't suppose to be any different.
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Dranakin said:
Oh, good to hear. I wonder why the sell one then (whoops, can't post links to AT&T's site yet) or why others have to buy adapters?
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Because sims aren't 'free'. They are given free as a courtesy under certain circumstances--eg new acts/upgs/swapping devices/defective sim..
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Are there different sim cards/imei's for different phones?

Got a lot of conflicting info on this.
1.Are different sims given for smart vs dumbphones? 3G vs 4G? Etc
Ie: will a smartphone not access 4g on a GoPhone sim?
2.Can a Rep on the phone identify your phone by the imei?
Thank you for any enlightening!
I may be wrong but I think the gophone sim works differently than a regular sim, there are att sims that say 3g but they work just the same as the new sim cards att is using, as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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To put it simply- if the network system knows that X phone has X IMEI or even model code it shows when it connects (I777 vs say I9100) and its endorsed by them, then they'll know what it is.
Do you want to know this to avoid paying ridiculous data fees? If so, get an international unlocked/unbranded phone that your carrier never had/in their system. I've been milking dumbell data rates on my Nokia E series phones for years now and not because I use the balls out of the data, but to have that unlimited/cheap peace of mind.
When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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I received the same treatment. With my last five phones, I've only been able to swap out the SIM cards twice — once because I bought a phone on Craigslist.
Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
Skv012a said:
Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
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I was on my old 3g Sim card as well but when i got the sgsii it wouldn't connect to the "phone" APN, i had to use the old "wap.cingular" APN. The old 3g Sims aren't provisioned on AT&T's network to access hspa.
Before getting a new Sim card, i would never get over 3Mbps down. Now i average 5 and on good days it'll peak to 7-10.
to answer the question about different Sim cards for smart phones or dumb phones; pretty sure they use the same card because when i went the other day to get a new Sim, the rep just grabbed one from a stack and activated it, there was only one stack. Also it would cost more and bee more confusing for them as company to do that.
And at&t can identify a phone over the network only if that phone is familiar to them. So if you bought an AT&T sgsii off craigslist/ebay/friend and plug in your Sim card, they'll be able to tell.
If you buy a phone that isn't sold/recognized by AT&T, most of the time they can't tell what the device.
A good check is after you put the Sim in your phone, wait a couple hours then log onto your account online and if it shows a picture of the phone your using, they can detect it.
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I have this as a gophone. They gave me a normal sim card not the go phone sim card. It has hspa + also.
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Well sim doesn't really determine what your plan allows you to do, so sims are dime a dozen. I may consider upgrading my sim if they'll be able to put my current number on a newer sim, else I'm not really concerned too much. (and, for your laughs, I'm still only using Edge to avoid having gutter battery).
bbubel said:
as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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this is only partly true. IF you have a att phone they can detect what type of phone you have by your IMEI #. that number is cataloged in their systems however if you have a European phone or a unlocked phone from another carrier then no they cannot tell what phone you have.
as for sims there are 2 different types of sims (go phones I dont know) there is the regular sized sims and the micro sims. Micro's for att are used for iphone 4 and up and I believe they are the only phone for att that uses the micro sim. As for functionality of the sims no the old sims (3G) work with thier HSPA+ just the same.....
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When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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Same thing when I upgraded. But my sim was a few years old and pretty scratched up from being put in different phones so I figured even if it would work it was time to be replaced anyway.
When I bought the sgs2 the clerk was surprised I still had my Cingular Sim card and suggested I get the new one. I got to keep my Cingular relic.
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The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
You mean you need an unlimited $50 type GoPhone account right? No one needs a data account above and beyond that.
I bought a cheap GoPhone $50 plan today...using that sim in my Note AI get tomorrow.
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The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
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[Q] Note with ATT prepid go phone sim?

I have an LG ATT android go phone and was wondering if I was to buy the Note if I could use the Gophones sim card in the note. I am not a huge fan of contracts and would prefer not to have one.
Thanks for your time,
Kassun
Not the AT&T Note, but you can with the international Note.
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Yeah, unfortunately for the i717 you have to have one of the 4G/LTE sim cards... my Inspire's sim wouldn't even work in it, had to get a new one again.
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Yeah, unfortunately for the i717 you have to have one of the 4G/LTE sim cards... my Inspire's sim wouldn't even work in it, had to get a new one again.
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Your Inspire SIM is 4G, right? Could you ask them for an LTE SIM for the Inspire and then see if it works with the Note. (I assume it will.) GoPhone doesn't have any LTE SIM option right now, correct? Thanks.
Somewhat different, but I have an H20 prepaid SIM I use in my AT&T Note while travelling. No data is available, but voice calls and SMS work just fine.
A thought
Has anyone tried to create a non lte apn and get data working with a non lte sim. I have an lte sim but had created a non lte apn and was using that since there is no lte in Omaha yet.
Cheers.
BR
I have an unlocked Telus Note, and I'll be travelling to California next week. Does this mean I can't use my ATT GoPhone SIM in it?
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I have an unlocked Telus Note, and I'll be travelling to California next week. Does this mean I can't use my ATT GoPhone SIM in it?[/QU
no, you can use it. but no LTE service.
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assaace said:
gizhola said:
I have an unlocked Telus Note, and I'll be travelling to California next week. Does this mean I can't use my ATT GoPhone SIM in it?
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no, you can use it. but no LTE service.
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Can I get HSPA+ data service?
Thanks.
gizhola said:
Can I get HSPA+ data service?
Thanks.
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i thinks so, you have to pay extra money for data service.
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you can use any at&t phone and unlock gsm phone for go phone service (prepaid service). just stick in prepaid simcard and use it.
also if you need sim card? PM me, i have couple hundred of 3g sim card for at&t. i can send you one for free.
kassun said:
I have an LG ATT android go phone and was wondering if I was to buy the Note if I could use the Gophones sim card in the note. I am not a huge fan of contracts and would prefer not to have one.
Thanks for your time,
Kassun
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First off, welcome to XDA.
Yes. You can use a go phone SIM card with the AT&T Note. But I can't personally recommend it.
Just tell a rep that you need a new SIM card (full sized) and they'll give you one. With a go phone account, you may need to bring your LG phone into the store if your name isn't on the account.
As for getting the phone to work properly. There are a few tricks. One that I haven't personally tried is wiping the EFS folder to give the phone a "generic IMEI".
There are a lot of great tutorials for getting most Androids to work with go phone service on XDA. Just keep in mind your data speeds will not be good. (I believe you will be throttled to 1mb dl)
Of course, if you can! I have it so! and I works great but it must be with a new sim card and prepaid active. You can also change the vpn! I did and it works fine!
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Maroon Mushroom said:
First off, welcome to XDA.
Yes. You can use a go phone SIM card with the AT&T Note. But I can't personally recommend it.
Just tell a rep that you need a new SIM card (full sized) and they'll give you one. With a go phone account, you may need to bring your LG phone into the store if your name isn't on the account.
As for getting the phone to work properly. There are a few tricks. One that I haven't personally tried is wiping the EFS folder to give the phone a "generic IMEI".
There are a lot of great tutorials for getting most Androids to work with go phone service on XDA. Just keep in mind your data speeds will not be good. (I believe you will be throttled to 1mb dl)
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My Note and now my i9100 receive 2-3 mbps with my GoPhone sim..
yes and no
Yes you can use in note but it has to be unlocked and you will only get phone and tex .even on the 50 dallor unlimited plan att wants u to buy data pack on smart phone .mini is like 15 or 25 bucks.ATT gets u some how .
unlock and do t mobile "4g" fix and use on simple mobiles 40 dollar plan total cost 60 bucks for months worth
this will only give you 3g speeds
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This doesn't speak specifically to your question about gophone sim cards, but I am using my At&t note with my Straight Talk (At&t network) sim.
Calls, sms, and data all work fine.
diesel556 said:
This doesn't speak specifically to your question about gophone sim cards, but I am using my At&t note with my Straight Talk (At&t network) sim.
Calls, sms, and data all work fine.
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I too am rocking my note on a Nokia E71 StraightTalk SIM. (I did this before they started selling the SIM's by themselves). Works like a charm and I have H+ data just like I did on my Infuse.

[Q] Best method/adapter for using microSIM in Atrix 4G

I recently upgraded to an HTC One, but don't want to sell or give up my beloved Atrix 4G. I know I can use the microSIM from the One with an adapter in the 4G, but I've read horror stories about ruining the contacts, sim card tray, phone, etc., etc.
Does anyone have a link to a known adapter that will work without damaging the Atrix? One person said they use a microSIM without an adapter. Is that possible? I can't just get a new SIM from AT&T as the old SIM was deactivated and they won't issue a new one for the same phone number, even if both phones are not being used at the same time. I want to be able to use the Atrix on the weekends. Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Well the atrix manual says not to use adapters, so maybe get a new sim. just trying to help
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Thanks Uhmier, I decided to use a regular SIM after unlocking it and it's fine.

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