Hey everybody!
Last time I gave my new s2 to my girlfriend, she installed an strange app from the market called pesoguin sakura dance (free) (should be on top if you search "tamagotchi" - it was surely the last time i handed it over to her haha).
Reading a comment like "damaged my phone" about the app unsettled me a bit and leads me to the question, if an app from the market could damage my/a phone irreparable?
I tested that app with lookout and didn't find anything. If you look on over 260 averaged 4 stars ratings and 50 - 250 000 downloads you shouln't think that there's something wrong. But, as i said, there's that comment; and i heard from another guy that there could be apps, which change the os of a phone.
Am I too careful and there's nothing (with this app) that should upset me or are there apps which do sth without me realizing anything.
Thanks.
May I ask what your previous phone was?
stoney73 said:
May I ask what your previous phone was?
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May I ask what your previous car was?
any serious and helpfull comments?
Dunno! Hoping to get some answers
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Reason being it's a pretty stupid question
Unless the app *gets* (by that I mean, you approve) root access, it ain't screwing anything up...
It's always a good practise to read over the permissions the app requires and ask yourself "Does it really need these?"
Btw... please uninstall Lookout...
hmm..stupid question, ya?
so i heard sth. what you obviously didnt hear, namely that there are definetly malicious apps which get root-access without me approving that.
and please get me in the enjoyment of your knowledge why i shouldnt use lookout
Micksta said:
Reason being it's a pretty stupid question
Unless the app *gets* (by that I mean, you approve) root access, it ain't screwing anything up...
It's always a good practise to read over the permissions the app requires and ask yourself "Does it really need these?"
Btw... please uninstall Lookout...
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come on it wasnt stupid
made me think about those viruses on the market place
rkath. said:
hmm..stupid question, ya?
so i heard sth. what you obviously didnt hear, namely that there are definetly malicious apps which get root-access without me approving that.
and please get me in the enjoyment of your knowledge why i shouldnt use lookout
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Pretty sure Superuser would pop-up with any request for root access, don't think there is a way around that...
I am against running an Anti-Virus/Malware client on my phone. IMO it's a stupid idea. I don't want to get in an argument, if you want to run Lookout or similar apps, I'm not going to stop you. It's like the 'why use a Task Manager/App-Killer' argument...
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Pretty sure Superuser would pop-up with any request for root access, don't think there is a way around that...
I am against running an Anti-Virus/Malware client on my phone. IMO it's a stupid idea. I don't want to get in an argument, if you want to run Lookout or similar apps, I'm not going to stop you. It's like the 'why use a Task Manager/App-Killer' argument...
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i dont think that he has asked a stupid question, asked people if they know of any dangerous apps isnt a bad question. you say su would pop up if it was going to be something bad, but you assume he is rooted
I feel a valid concern has been raised in the OP.
The apps available in the marketplace should be vetted but as we know its not.
after rooting the phone...it more or less becomes like the home PC.
personally i download apps only from big corporations...but i do understand most ppl like to try out new & tempting stuff on their phones...
since i access lots of personal accounts from my phone, i keep away from apps which comes from sources i havent heard before...
ignorance is bliss at times...
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i dont think that he has asked a stupid question, asked people if they know of any dangerous apps isnt a bad question. you say su would pop up if it was going to be something bad, but you assume he is rooted
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I don't think he asked a stupid question either. I have found a few malicious apps in the Market that download unwanted garbage to your phone. It surprises me that the Market does not screen out such apps before posting.
That said, I think he definitely needs a new girlfriend.
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That said, I think he definitely needs a new girlfriend.
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hahaha...no she's cute and no..she isn't someone whos playing tamagotchi stuff
b2t. should i be in sorrow after downloaded pesoguin sakura dance? the developer artsplanet inc isnt that small..
btw. my phone is rooted.
thanks in advance!
nobody that can calm me? :/
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Pretty sure Superuser would pop-up with any request for root access, don't think there is a way around that...
I am against running an Anti-Virus/Malware client on my phone. IMO it's a stupid idea. I don't want to get in an argument, if you want to run Lookout or similar apps, I'm not going to stop you. It's like the 'why use a Task Manager/App-Killer' argument...
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I can get round the superuser popup on many phones... So it's not enough to rely on that alone.
I suggest you do run a reliable AV program if you are at all concerned
Btw, few apps are likely to cause serious harm.
If something gets root, in theory it can cause a lot of damage, but normally they aim to quietly install other files without you knowing.
So if you want to start clean, remove and wipe your sd, clear all app data, and reflash the latest rom via odin or kies
If an app had root, it could have modified your system partition, so the reflash matters.
But in theory, someone could delete everything from your phone, or brick it (on some devices), though I am not aware of any such apps
yes there are very dangerous apps in Android Market like this one for example Albanian Keyboard wich is steals all u data like a key logger and no one in there are doing anything to ban or remove that crap
qwerty warrior said:
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of course you can.
so what do you think about that pesoguin sakura dance app (free)?
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so what do you think about that pesoguin sakura dance app (free)?
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Shouldn't be that problematic especially as most security holes are patched in gingerbread. AFAIK the most viruses are only able to harm FroYo and lower OS'es.
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Hey guys. How do you detach Titanium Backup from the Market since it doesn't show up in the list of apps? Thanks.
Doesn't show up in what list of apps? Everywhere I look on my phone, I see it listed.
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Doesn't show up in what list of apps? Everywhere I look on my phone, I see it listed.
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Sorry, I meant the list in Titanium Backup with all my apps.
You can fix this by buying the legal version and showing your support for the dev. It's not very expensive (a little over $6) and it's worth every penny. Definitely beats messing around with illegal and possibly sketchy cracked versions.
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You can fix this by buying the legal version and showing your support for the dev. It's not very expensive (a little over $6) and it's worth every penny. Definitely beats messing around with illegal and possibly sketchy cracked versions.
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Agree 100% speaking of, I'd like to donate for your battery app. I rarely go on the computer tho so can you pm me your donate link? Its truly a great app and works on cm10 as well so I feel you deserve a beer (or whatever your choice beverage is)
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Agree 100% speaking of, I'd like to donate for your battery app. I rarely go on the computer tho so can you pm me your donate link? Its truly a great app and works on cm10 as well so I feel you deserve a beer (or whatever your choice beverage is)
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this does not reply to the question "Detach Titanium Backup from Market"...
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this does not reply to the question "Detach Titanium Backup from Market"...
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This does though. Although it is probably not the answer you were hoping for.
Basically, this being primarily a developers' forum, people will always look down on any attempt to use pirated/cracked apps and thus steal from the developer. So you can't really expect an answer that will promote and encourage piracy. Especially given that most Android apps are ridiculously cheap.
(To ACTUALLY answer the question - the only thing I can think of is marking all apps except for TB for auto-updating in Google Play.)
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This does though. Although it is probably not the answer you were hoping for.
Basically, this being primarily a developers' forum, people will always look down on any attempt to use pirated/cracked apps and thus steal from the developer. So you can't really expect an answer that will promote and encourage piracy. Especially given that most Android apps are ridiculously cheap.
(To ACTUALLY answer the question - the only thing I can think of is marking all apps except for TB for auto-updating in Google Play.)
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Thanks for the last reply, but i know this and and don't want to auto-update all apps... so I think TB can't be detached from market...
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Hello to everyone!
Maybe it's a stupid, noob question, but I googled for this without success.
And even a search in these forums was not helping, so... let's start!
It's saturday morning here and I start my weekend in one of the most disappointing ways...
Some minutes ago, my Galaxy Note showed a red icon in the status bar. I checked it, and it was Zoner antivirus. Hooray!
The malware that it found was exploit.AndroidOS.Lootor.A, and I don't know what it is, but it really sounds bad.
The disappointment went worse when I discovered that the malware (according to this antivirus) was in the latest Superuser update. Something I'm not going to uninstall without thinking twice.
What should I do? I think I'm going to follow my elephant-phone's suggestion and uninstall the update, since it's telling me that I can use "the original version" (at least, in Italian the message I see means literally that).
If you tell me -as I think- that it is just a false positive, I'll be happy to reinstall any update, but anyway I am asking for the opinion of more experienced users.
Thanks in advance!
PS: while I was writing here, there were some evolutions in this problem.
I followed the instructions and uninstalled some update (or at least the phone told me so).
Now it seems that Superuser should be uninstalled because it has inside
exploit.AndroidOS.GingerBreak.A
HELP!
I'm not going to uninstall superuser (I think I couldn't anyway), but I am worrying now!
PPS: ok googling exploit.AndroidOS.Gingerbreak.A I found that it is a false positive, so I assume that also exploit.AndroidOS.Lootor.A is safe... but I still would like some confirmations, I am quite new to Android and this is not the way I want to learn lol.
Virus scanners on android truly are pointless. They will pick up anything that changes the root permissions llike Super user or the root exploit. As long as your not using apks from iffy sites like 4shared or something you will be fine.
So how can we solve that?... I found a couple of apks on APPLANET that lead to a GAME CASINO on real market... Strange but that´s look like a virus to me...
Thank´s in advance.. Cem..
Don't use applanet unless your begging for a virus or to have your phone make calls to long distance numbers and send texts to paid account. Also no one on XDA will help you with any black market app markets.
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Virus scanners on android truly are pointless. They will pick up anything that changes the root permissions llike Super user or the root exploit. As long as your not using apks from iffy sites like 4shared or something you will be fine.
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I'm not expert enough yet to discuss your point, it just seemed weird to me since it is the very first problem I had with an android anti-malware software. I've run Superuser for something like two months without any warning...
Anyway it's solved now, even if not in the best way. Something messed up in my beloved phone when I rebooted it one moment after my last post... I had to re-synchronize all my accounts and to reinstall most of my apps, it seemed that my phone lost all app data.
Now it's ok (luckily, I've learned enough 'til now to bring it slowly back to normal) but the procedure was painful.
Great lesson here: wether you consider antimalware useful or not, don't rely on it more than on good ol' common sense!
PS: anyway, why are they pointless? Aren't they able to find possible problems? I've recently learned that "possible" problems aren't necessarily problems, but it seems strange to hear that they are useless... just an explanation please.
Always good to have a virus scanner on you're android mobile. Even i've you only downloading wrom the market it can be infected (Very small change). Nothing is secure in this world. Better to have protection one time to much then to have it to late. How more popular android is going to be, how more change you can have for infections. Even its still low. Lookout cost nothing and says nothing about my superuser and other rooting apps. I use it on my tablet and phone and it works great.
Recently read a test and no Antivirus App was able to find more 15% of the Viruses, plus they always slow my phone down.
Best solution for me is being cautious and checking permissions.
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i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
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i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
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Oh I have to agree. Too many people get Android because its cool and then they root because they think its cool. They should understand what they are doing before they make a choice for the OS on their phone.
If you think running Linux is too much trouble to run and keep up on your computer why would you run it on your phone when it takes just as much to keep up?
terminal 7 said:
i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
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Yes, but you know, I had the naive hope that an antivirus for Android should check if an app is going to do a bad use of the permissions I give to it.
I.E. : I see a game that requires internet connection for multiplayer. It's ok, isn't it? In a perfect world, an antivirus should check if that game is going to connect to its multiplayer server or to a bad one... (it's just an example, I think that important brands aren't likely to lose their reputation that way)
Anyway, would you suggest me to give Avast a try? At least, I've seen that it has decent anti-theft features...
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Yes, but you know, I had the naive hope that an antivirus for Android should check if an app is going to do a bad use of the permissions I give to it.
I.E. : I see a game that requires internet connection for multiplayer. It's ok, isn't it? In a perfect world, an antivirus should check if that game is going to connect to its multiplayer server or to a bad one... (it's just an example, I think that important brands aren't likely to lose their reputation that way)
Anyway, would you suggest me to give Avast a try? At least, I've seen that it has decent anti-theft features...
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Please receive this feedback as intended, respectfully and well meaning...
if your finding yourself having concerns when an anti virus flags up your rooted status and yet you still feel the need for an anti virus package i suggest you un-root and keep to a stock kernel - this way the anti virus software will inform you of any possible intrusion or system change.
if however you must have root i think you need to simply come to understand more about what the anti virus packages can do .. or actually what they are limited to doing - might i suggest spending some time learning about a popular linux distribution too as it will bring about a different frame of mind and then you will realize that the anti virus software flaging SuperUser as a virus is actually neither true or a false posotive .. its just working from a different set of perspectives to that of a confident root enabled computer user .
i hope this makes sense without coming across in the wrong way, i just really think people should learn from XDA and the devices they buy & come to XDA for help with .
Respect the info found at XDA -and its users, we all learn together here
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No malware in superuser app. Proceed
sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10
super user by chainsdd has been around for a long time. and was developed to make being rooted easier, a lot easier. it gives you control over all files on your device. the developer is very trusted. no worries
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium.
Thanks to every single user that chose to spend some time for this post.
I was kinda sure that Superuser had to be safe, but lack of experience made me fear that somehow I could have downloaded the wrong package, or something...
The weirdest thing, is that Superuser and antivirus have been there together for a while, so I wondered what on earth was happening.
Well, I've done a mistake and now I've learned something... it's ok.
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Please receive this feedback as intended, respectfully and well meaning...
if your finding yourself having concerns when an anti virus flags up your rooted status and yet you still feel the need for an anti virus package i suggest you un-root and keep to a stock kernel - this way the anti virus software will inform you of any possible intrusion or system change.
if however you must have root i think you need to simply come to understand more about what the anti virus packages can do .. or actually what they are limited to doing - might i suggest spending some time learning about a popular linux distribution too as it will bring about a different frame of mind and then you will realize that the anti virus software flaging SuperUser as a virus is actually neither true or a false posotive .. its just working from a different set of perspectives to that of a confident root enabled computer user .
i hope this makes sense without coming across in the wrong way, i just really think people should learn from XDA and the devices they buy & come to XDA for help with .
Respect the info found at XDA -and its users, we all learn together here
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This was interesting.
First of all, I am not offended at all and I don't understand how I could.
Well I could probably live without root (except for a couple of useful apps)... but I'm not going to un-root it for now.
I am a sturdy guy and I want to learn everything (everything I am interested into, I mean) about this OS. Trying and trying again, at the cost of some little problems if needed.
As for Linux, almost all my PCs have also it inside (win7 mostly for games), and I have never had a problem worth this name when using it. Never had something like an antivirus there, just some common sense and everything was fine.
I think I should have the same attitude towards Android as many of you have suggested. And I am willing to get some more info about android's antivirus limitations. Just because I'm curious.
Can you suggest some particular post here in xda?
Thanks again!
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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is there any keylogger app for android that is free and offline? next week im going to give my wife a smartphone as a birthday present.
i just need an offline keylogger that saves the logs in .txt file hidden somewhere in the phone since i can borrow that phone for a while. i don't need the one that use a gps or internet..
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is there any keylogger app for android that is free and offline? next week im going to give my wife a smartphone as a birthday present.
i just need an offline keylogger that saves the logs in .txt file hidden somewhere in the phone since i can borrow that phone for a while. i don't need the one that use a gps or internet..
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Woah! Don't you trust your wife.....or you want her personal info out....that's really a shame you wanna do that....
Anyways....AFAIK there's some app named Social Hack. It might be some help.
i trust her but not 100% since we rarely see each other nowadays and she cheated on me once.. by the way i tried looking for that social hack in google but i can't find it. can you give me a link for that?
reidhershel09 said:
i trust her but not 100% since we rarely see each other nowadays and she cheated on me once.. by the way i tried looking for that social hack in google but i can't find it. can you give me a link for that?
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It's in Play Store.
Well, if you don't trust her then why are you with her. If she wanna cheat, she surely will cheat. No matter what you do...you can't force her on that. If you do... There more likely chances of divorce.
But still there are many reasons women don't leave their husband even even if they love another person...if you know what I mean.
Meh, here's the link...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.askpi.socialHack
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It's in Play Store.
Well, if you don't trust her then why are you with her. If she wanna cheat, she surely will cheat. No matter what you do...you can't force her on that. If you do... There more likely chances of divorce.
But still there are many reasons women don't leave their husband even even if they love another person...if you know what I mean.
Meh, here's the link...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.askpi.socialHack
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well you know love is blind.. lol
but if i caught her again, i'll think about divorcing.. by the way, thanks for that app. but i know her account in facebook since she told me her password, what i want is i can get the logs of what she type while she text someone..
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well you know love is blind.. lol
but if i caught her again, i'll think about divorcing.. by the way, thanks for that app. but i know her account in facebook since she told me her password, what i want is i can get the logs of what she type while she text someone..
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Love is blind..but you aren't... If you know she's cheating... Leave her... You can always find more better...as others say," Plenty of other fish in sea "...or whatever... Don't use means to spy on her...if she finds she herself would divorce I think...what I know from experience is true love never cheats...and nothing is more satisfying than finding the right person...
Its no good to spend your life with person you don't trust..
Anyways, you're on your own...I can't force you or something.. But nothing is bad in getting free tip.
And the app you say, there are plenty in market... Search something like SMS spy or parental spy...just get the hint. I doubt that you get any free one but what's wrong with searching. You can always try.
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Love is blind..but you aren't... If you know she's cheating... Leave her... You can always find more better...as others say," Plenty of other fish in sea "...or whatever... Don't use means to spy on her...if she finds she herself would divorce I think...what I know from experience is true love never cheats...and nothing is more satisfying than finding the right person...
Its no good to spend your life with person you don't trust..
Anyways, you're on your own...I can't force you or something.. But nothing is bad in getting free tip.
And the app you say, there are plenty in market... Search something like SMS spy or parental spy...just get the hint. I doubt that you get any free one but what's wrong with searching. You can always try.
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its alwasy satysfing to give her proff and says GOTCHA BEYOTCH! xD
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its alwasy satysfing to give her proff and says GOTCHA BEYOTCH! xD
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+1 for this!
by the way, i still can't find a good application that tracks sms, cause all apps that i see needs an internet connection.. no offline tracker..
reidhershel09 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2137280 try this like if i help u then please msg me pm on i wana talk with u
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Woah! Don't you trust your wife.....or you want her personal info out....that's really a shame you wanna do that....
Anyways....AFAIK there's some app named Social Hack. It might be some help.
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I trusted of my wife, and 6 day ago I have found in her whatsapp a lot of message of another man with a chat of sweet word, so..... trust on she is good but not trust is better......
nishanty13 said:
Well, if you don't trust her then why are you with her.
But still there are many reasons women don't leave their husband even even if they love another person...if you know what I mean.
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Oh really ??
A guy simply asked for .apk and you come up with a psychotherapy or marriage counselling ? Are you kidding or sth ?
Get kids first then you'll know why it's not so easy to dump a wife...In majority of western countries and EU wife gets sole rights over the kids after divorce no matter what (unless you can prove drugs / insanity)
Also don't be so sure these days about wives sticking to their husbands & status quo.
Kids is not really a magnet...Mortgage usually is but selling a house is easy...
You will not find any info here about keyloggers. They are illegal and in so against XDA rules.
Wayne Tech Nexus
Just posting a reminder that any rom posted here has to have the MI store removed from the rom. The app is banned as it provides warez.
You've effectively killed this forum, the only source of ROMs for our device. Thanks.
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You've effectively killed this forum, the only source of ROMs for our device. Thanks.
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All it takes is having the app removed. Not really hard.
This app has been banned since the beginning of Xiaomi producing miui roms. It's nothing new.
zelendel said:
All it takes is having the app removed. Not really hard.
This app has been banned since the beginning of Xiaomi producing miui roms. It's nothing new.
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Well, if you say that this is so easy, please just give us direct instructions on how to remove this store without getting bootloop.
Go ahead.
domi.nos said:
Well, if you say that this is so easy, please just give us direct instructions on how to remove this store without getting bootloop.
Go ahead.
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There are Tuts on how to get gapps working.
I have never tried myself as these devices are banned from being own at my job so I'm not even allowed to get one. Nor would I ever.
Don't get mad at us. Get mad at them for excluding a warez market in their roms.
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Get mad at them for excluding a warez market in their roms.
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May be I do not know something.
I have tried to look for some warez there - I could not find anything.
anmg said:
May be I do not know something.
I have tried to look for some warez there - I could not find anything.
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Same. Some stupid policies and some stupid myths. Perhaps there used to be some sort of warez there accidentally and everyone is still being anal about it. As you can see mods don't really care about this phone. You can see by posts like "I would never get their devices". So childish
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Same. Some stupid policies and some stupid myths. Perhaps there used to be some sort of warez there accidentally and everyone is still being anal about it. As you can see mods don't really care about this phone. You can see by posts like "I would never get their devices". So childish
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It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market
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any proof please.
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any proof please.
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You can look yourself. Just do a compare between the 2 stores. That was part of the reasons why miui roms were banned for the longest time.
You have to remember that MIUI started here on xda before Xiaomi bought them out.
Warez or not, MI Store sucks ass, but banning ROMs is pointless, MIUI forum is trash, I still don't know how it works, and some ROM's has backdoors and for example, they send paid SMS to vietnam, That sh!t costed me 50 bucks!!!
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It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
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hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
khnoizer said:
hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
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If you look around the internet you will find all the stories you need. They are alos on the military banned list in the US due to ties with the Chinese military.
zelendel said:
It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
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zelendel said:
If you look around the internet you will find all the stories you need. They are alos on the military banned list in the US due to ties with the Chinese military.
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Thank you, but I suppose if we use non MIUI rom such as cm, then these risk of using xiaomi devices is gone right? also, what do you think of Mokee Rom? As it's also made by chinese people, and you said that china is known for "something", is it might also poses similar risks?
khnoizer said:
Thank you, but I suppose if we use non MIUI rom such as cm, then these risk of using xiaomi devices is gone right? also, what do you think of Mokee Rom? As it's also made by chinese people, and you said that china is known for "something", is it might also poses similar risks?
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First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. This is part of the reason for the great firewall of china. So spyware, malware and other software that helps in this are normally sponsered by the Military to help in doing just this.
I have never used it myself but as it is an open source based OS it should be good. You can see just what it is doing. The hard part will be the coding translations, as things dont always translate right.
Any non MIUI based rom should be ok. The problem with that is CM is normally buggy and all the roms use the patch rom setup which is never really stable nor is it something I would trust as that is injecting stuff into a rom that I cant VET.
In this day and age one has to be careful with all these new toys that are coming to many markets across the world.
Remember, You get what you pay for. So if something is too good to be true then you have to find the catch.
zelendel said:
First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. This is part of the reason for the great firewall of china. So spyware, malware and other software that helps in this are normally sponsered by the Military to help in doing just this.
I have never used it myself but as it is an open source based OS it should be good. You can see just what it is doing. The hard part will be the coding translations, as things dont always translate right.
Any non MIUI based rom should be ok. The problem with that is CM is normally buggy and all the roms use the patch rom setup which is never really stable nor is it something I would trust as that is injecting stuff into a rom that I cant VET.
In this day and age one has to be careful with all these new toys that are coming to many markets across the world.
Remember, You get what you pay for. So if something is too good to be true then you have to find the catch.
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Great explanation, Thank you, sir.
Um, sorry.. may i know what's happen here and why miui store shouldn't be here?
zelendel said:
First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. [ ... ] .
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You are right about the store, i was quite surprised when i found paid apps there. This is correct.
But i'm not sure if this is still the case, i saw them a year ago, now i couldn't find the apps,
maybe they've cleaned the store in meantime.
And a script removing apps isn't hard, just search for "updater-script remove apps".
BUT i've tried such script on Sony Xperia P, not in MIUI, i don't know if deleting Mi Store (com.xiaomi.mipicks) would cause bootloop or not.
I know that Mi Store enabled/disabled is region dependent, you can disable it when switching to another region in Beta rom.
But deleting? I know that when i've deleted Updater apk, or changed its permissions, it caused bootloop. Needs to be confirmed.
But with government spying - if you want to be honest - maybe we should ban all ROMs tied with Google, which means all Androids?
Remember about PRISM and Edward Snowden?
American's NSA (National Security Agency) ?
I have nothing to American people, just sayin.
But according to former CIA employee, Edward Snowden, Google joined to the NSA spying program in 14 Jan 2009.
I think that you simply have a choice - either give your personal data to American or to Chinese people. (or both).
You can minimize the risk by disabling for ex. Analytics app... etc.
But saying that chinese are spying... USA govt does the same
And better not looking for Echelon project...
But - the main topic here - yes, it's a good idea to remove Mi Store from roms.
One can always add it himself/herself, there are also other stores, F-droid, Aptoid, there is a choice
American companies aren't communist nor are they guilty of some of the most sever human rights violations in the world.
khnoizer said:
hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
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kocak juga doi.. ditanyak suru kasi bukti malah ngeyel muluk.. emang koplak kalik.. pdhal amrik sama parahnya.. huehuehue..
got the pixel 6 today, rooted with magisk and im just starting to play with it..
but it keeps asking my to finish setup and get a google account. i dont want a google account or need one
( yep im going to install everything manually or from aroura store)
how do i get the pixel to stop asking me? ( so far i can only have ask again tommorow)
nutpants said:
got the pixel 6 today, rooted with magisk and im just starting to play with it..
but it keeps asking my to finish setup and get a google account. i dont want a google account or need one
( yep im going to install everything manually or from aroura store)
how do i get the pixel to stop asking me? ( so far i can only have ask again tommorow)
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Why not install a different rom? I think some don't even use gapps or can sandbox them.
edit: Here's a new thread maybe that could be a good starting point.
[CLOSED] I'm done with XDA
MOD EDIT: Since the OP has deleted the original contents of the post, thread closed.
forum.xda-developers.com
i plan to test the factory rom for a few weeks so i have a baseline to compare to other roms
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i plan to test the factory rom for a few weeks so i have a baseline to compare to other roms
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Then compare it as designed. Log in. Otherwise you're not doing the factory rom justice.
if by justice you mean features that require internet and my personal information and habits, those are features that i dont need or will ever use.
if you are talking general speed and battery usage and functioning with the apps i use the most, then logging into google on my phone is not needed.
the phone might have the power to calculate the need parameters to build a space ship and put a man on mars, but using that power to smooth out my crows feet, socialize online looking for 5000 likes and 2 millions followers , is not a improvement in tech use.
nutpants said:
if by justice you mean features that require internet and my personal information and habits, those are features that i dont need or will ever use.
if you are talking general speed and battery usage and functioning with the apps i use the most, then logging into google on my phone is not needed.
the phone might have the power to calculate the need parameters to build a space ship and put a man on mars, but using that power to smooth out my crows feet, socialize online looking for 5000 likes and 2 millions followers , is not a improvement in tech use.
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If you know what you're doing you can log in with a Google account and not give out all the information you mentioned. There are a lot of privacy concerns these days all you need to do is some research. I'm sure you can figure something out that will accomplish your goals. Good luck.
Try freezing Google systems and Play services.
There are different apps that can do this, but you will need root.
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if by justice you mean features that require internet and my personal information and habits, those are features that i dont need or will ever use.
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I think he means not cutting off your nose to spite your face. Google credentials are needed for Play Store, like for keeping Carrier Services and whatnot updated. It's possible to push back against data harvesters while using stock Android, especially with root access. But it sounds like you'd rather take your concerns to the next level with something like CalyxOS and a Play Store alternative.
the only thing i dont want is to log into anything to use what i paid for.
the device is not crippled, its rooted and i have already installed 150 apps and disabled everything google i can disable.
i dont want the google experience, i want to experience the device i bought.,
nutpants said:
the only thing i dont want is to log into anything to use what i paid for.
the device is not crippled, its rooted and i have already installed 150 apps and disabled everything google i can disable.
i dont want the google experience, i want to experience the device i bought.,
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So, you don't want the Google experience yet you bought a Google-branded phone? Just a bit of an oxymoron there. Seriously, while I could ask why you bought a Google phone if you don't intend to use Google services, it would be a pointless waste of time and energy.
Install a custom ROM that doesn't use Google services and don't look back. Just don't complain when you can't take advantage of a Google-exclusive feature as a result.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
So, you don't want the Google experience yet you bought a Google-branded phone? Just a bit of an oxymoron there. Seriously, while I could ask why you bought a Google phone if you don't intend to use Google services, it would be a pointless waste of time and energy.
Install a custom ROM that doesn't use Google services and don't look back. Just don't complain when you can't take advantage of a Google-exclusive feature as a result.
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so you did not bother to read a damn word i wrote but felt that you just had to tell me how stupid i am to not give a **** about the google experience..
how many times do people tell you to **** off?
i am just wondering.
nutpants said:
if by justice you mean features that require internet and my personal information and habits, those are features that i dont need or will ever use.
if you are talking general speed and battery usage and functioning with the apps i use the most, then logging into google on my phone is not needed.
the phone might have the power to calculate the need parameters to build a space ship and put a man on mars, but using that power to smooth out my crows feet, socialize online looking for 5000 likes and 2 millions followers , is not a improvement in tech use.
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I truly do not understand people like you.
> Buys flagship phone from company with newest OS tuned to run as best as the company can to represent itself and its product.
> Tries to not have an email address because tracking
You do realize that as a society we are all walking around with computers thousands of time faster than we had sitting on our desks 20 years ago. That have dozens of sensors, connected to wireless networks, that can cover nearly every inch of the surface of the planet. What you're worried about is what we (the collective nerds/geeks/privacy advocates) were screaming at the top of our lungs back in the 90s...before it was too late.
It's too late son, That ship sailed, sank, was resurfaced, and put into a museum so younger generations could see what it was like in the way back when before times.
Good luck with your quest to use factory google pixel phone and rom without a Gmail account. That's surly the only way they are tracking you.
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so you did not bother to read a damn word i wrote but felt that you just had to tell me how stupid i am to not give a **** about the google experience..
how many times do people tell you to **** off?
i am just wondering.
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Everyone read what you wrote don't be a martyr. The fact remains you didn't get an answer yet you continue to berate members here trying to guide you in a direction that is concurrent with reality. You seem to be delusional and contrary, simply looking for an argument and to make your voice heard over reasonable discussion. It's not working. We tried to help but you will have none of it. So perhaps it's time to find another place where your diatribe will matter. As I said before, good luck.
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Everyone read what you wrote don't be a martyr. The fact remains you didn't get an answer yet you continue to berate members here trying to guide you in a direction that is concurrent with reality. You seem to be delusional and contrary, simply looking for an argument and to make your voice heard over reasonable discussion. It's not working. We tried to help but you will have none of it. So perhaps it's time to find another place where your diatribe will matter. As I said before, good luck.
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no having people post just to insult my choices is not something i ignore. that jack ass was the first person to insult me, and i dont roll over and accept insults.
i have zero problem with getting no answer, but a huge problem with jackasses that post only to insult me.
no one should ever feel they need to put up with **** like that
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I truly do not understand people like you.
> Buys flagship phone from company with newest OS tuned to run as best as the company can to represent itself and its product.
> Tries to not have an email address because tracking
You do realize that as a society we are all walking around with computers thousands of time faster than we had sitting on our desks 20 years ago. That have dozens of sensors, connected to wireless networks, that can cover nearly every inch of the surface of the planet. What you're worried about is what we (the collective nerds/geeks/privacy advocates) were screaming at the top of our lungs back in the 90s...before it was too late.
It's too late son, That ship sailed, sank, was resurfaced, and put into a museum so younger generations could see what it was like in the way back when before times.
Good luck with your quest to use factory google pixel phone and rom without a Gmail account. That's surly the only way they are tracking you.
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let me guess you have nothing better to do but try ****ting on people. maybe you should go to reddit and not be someplace people try to learn about their device and what you can customize.
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no having people post just to insult my choices is not something i ignore. that jack ass was the first person to insult me, and i dont roll over and accept insults.
i have zero problem with getting no answer, but a huge problem with jackasses that post only to insult me.
no one should ever feel they need to put up with **** like that
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Then perhaps it's time to move on don't you think? This thread is really not productive.
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Then perhaps it's time to move on don't you think? This thread is really not productive.
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its not productive because of **** nuts that want to piss on other peoples choices.
im not going anywhere. the the useless ****s can move on while i wait for someone with the desire and skill to customize the pixel 6 who might have an answer
nutpants said:
got the pixel 6 today, rooted with magisk and im just starting to play with it..
but it keeps asking my to finish setup and get a google account. i dont want a google account or need one
( yep im going to install everything manually or from aroura store)
how do i get the pixel to stop asking me? ( so far i can only have ask again tommorow)
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Try this: Settings>Apps>See All Apps>3 dot menu "Show System">Android Setup>Disable that app
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Try this: Settings>Apps>See All Apps>3 dot menu "Show System">Android Setup>Disable that app
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thank you
that is one i missed while disabling many others.
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Then perhaps it's time to move on don't you think? This thread is really not productive.
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It wasn't productive from the first post. It simply is an excuse for him to rant and rave about how Google is a data whore and all that. I can understand that, as I once was like him. Perhaps I am in the wrong here for being so blasé over Google's data collection, but I stopped worrying years ago about it. I figured the benefits outweighed the liabilities.
It's rather entitled to expect to have all the benefits of a smartphone while having none of the liabilities. I think if I were truly that worried about data collection to rant about it in a public forum I wouldn't be using a phone at all. After all, every phone made today, from the most expensive smartphone to the cheapest dumbphone, has sensors in it that can track you, even when the phone is off.
To the OP, TANSTAAFL.