I can get around the wifi block using barnicle but the usb sent me to the page telling ne to add service. I am on community rom didn't have issue on Super Clean.
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I use pda net works well
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Wifi tether has always worked for me
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Try wireless teather from the market..has worked for me on every single rom I've ever used on this phone...there is about a 30-45 second lag on initial connection but other then that its flawless
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Doesn't matter what you use, Verizon will still be able to tell that you're tethering. It's just that you won't get re-directed to a Add Service page. It's users such as yourself that are ruining the system for everything by tethering illegally and I hope you get a massive bill for doing so.
I can do wifi tethering but got an older computer with no wifi card its in the mail or would be using landline. USB tethering used to work but stopped on community rom.
As far as it being illegal is debatable because its a phone feature they're hijacking. I pay my monthly bill for unlimited data at a premium price.
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Doesn't matter what you use, Verizon will still be able to tell that you're tethering. It's just that you won't get re-directed to a Add Service page. It's users such as yourself that are ruining the system for everything by tethering illegally and I hope you get a massive bill for doing so.
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It is our right to teather for free.. The phone has the capability.. Paying to teather is like paying to use the built in gps.. And verizon has no right to stop you from using free teather apps.
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Furthermore, at least for 4g so yeah I realize that this isn't totally relevant here, charging additional for tethering may be in violation of the openness requirement on the spectrum that Verizon agreed to. I'm unsure if a similar condition was put on 3g as well.
Edit: Apparently I should RTFA that neh4pres posted. Oops =)
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It is our right to teather for free.. The phone has the capability.. Paying to teather is like paying to use the built in gps.. And verizon has no right to stop you from using free teather apps.
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This is complete drivel.
When you tether you are using resources beyond your phone. You are using Verizon's network in a way which they haven't agreed to and for which you haven't paid. It's no more legal than leeching off your neighbor's wifi without permission.
It's not at all like the built in gps as that uses public services, Verizon's network is private and they have set specific limitations on its use and charged you in accordance with those limitations and your explicit agreement to abide by them.
The mere fact that your phone has an ability does not mean that it is legal to use that ability. For example your phone can be used to hack into your bank's network, that doesn't make it legal. Your phone clearly has the ability to make phone calls on Verizon's network. But you can't just buy a phone and thereby acquire a right to make free calls on that network.
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This is complete drivel.
When you tether you are using resources beyond your phone. You are using Verizon's network in a way which they haven't agreed to and for which you haven't paid. It's no more legal than leeching off your neighbor's wifi without permission.
It's not at all like the built in gps as that uses public services, Verizon's network is private and they have set specific limitations on its use and charged you in accordance with those limitations and your explicit agreement to abide by them.
The mere fact that your phone has an ability does not mean that it is legal to use that ability. For example your phone can be used to hack into your bank's network, that doesn't make it legal. Your phone clearly has the ability to make phone calls on Verizon's network. But you can't just buy a phone and thereby acquire a right to make free calls on that network.
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Hacking is not comparable. Hacking is not a feature. Tethering is a feature.
And no your are not going beyond the phone capabilities if it is capable of doing it. You're using your phones 3g network which your phone is capable of using through a computer. It is comparable to GPS because there are phones that had GPS locked to Verizon's service only. What about deBinging getting around Verizon's agreement with Microsoft? Do you know if you are costing Verizon and Microsoft ad revenue?
Your complaint is date usage going to end unlimited data service. The Iphone, and 4g are more to blame than anything the rare guy using tethering.
I dont find anything wrong in that
the tethering option is there for the tethering its as simple as that
and you are paying for network usage so i dont see anything wrong TBH in this all.
btw i am using the fascinate with some other network and in some diff country , where i have opted for a unlimited data transfer plan ( precisely for this particular scenario ), and as and when the connections at my home or office ( the wireline bband connections ) are down i always connect my PCs with my fascinate and use its network.
I don't agree with blocking the tethering either. I used my droid for months before getting a tethering app and after I had it my data usage didn't go up much at all. Before tethering I would do everything on the phone. With tethering, I do the same exact things, but sometimes on my laptop instead of the phone simply for the added convience of a full keyboard and a bigger screen. I am paying for unlimited data and also using the same amount of data whether accessed on the phone or thru tethering. Why should I have to pay more for it?
IMO it is probably a small percentage of people that use their phone as their constant network connection for a pc and use a significantly higher amount of data than they would without the tethering.
I have no issue with on the fly tethering to check email, twitter, xda, surf around, etc. What I do take issue with are those who essentially use their phone as a wireless router and download torrents and stream Netflix. Eating through 100+ gb per month is pure abuse.
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after rooting the htc thunderbolt can we use the wifi tether app for root users to tether for free? and will it be at 4g speeds. sorry if this was answered already, and thanks for the info.
Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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thank you. i knew we had like a free trial period with the hot spot app, isnt that gonna cancel out soon? i wanna be able to use the wifi tether like i did with my motorola droid it was so handy having that option. thanks again..
The free hotspot thing ends on May 15th. Then you gotta pay.
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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yup...4g speeds a little slower through the tether but it still beats Comcast
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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I hear the free unrooted mobile hotspot is only free for a few more weeks.
All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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That's awesome to know. Tried and verified
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
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Personally, I don't like that companies are moving toward the "buffet" approach to providing internet access. I have AT&T DSL. They provide me with an internet connection. PERIOD. They don't give me the internet connection and then say only use this on one computer nor do they say I'm not allowerd to hook it up to my Linksys router. It makes more sense to me that way. Maxing out my connection speed on one machine would be equivalent to me maxing it out across several.
I have a Photon 4G on Sprint right now, and I refuse to go onto tiered Data. I've just about had it with Sprint's dynamically changing terms of service, so I'm looking for other US based unlimited data carriers compatible with the Photon 4G. I am rooted, if that means anything toward this.
Just isn't possible, but idk what your complaining about exactly, what change in terms, the data is still unlimited for your phone unless your not giving a full story as most people do...
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I'm giving the full story here. Yes, data is unlimited still, yes my phone works. I use very low amounts of data, so Im not in any way angering them. I'm just bothered at them filtering my market now, and most recently, my phone is shut down whenever I tether (via Android) using Bluetooth.
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I'm giving the full story here. Yes, data is unlimited still, yes my phone works. I use very low amounts of data, so Im not in any way angering them. I'm just bothered at them filtering my market now, and most recently, my phone is shut down whenever I tether (via Android) using Bluetooth.
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if you not paying for tethering (even though i think it should be free to begin with) i wouldn't be surprised if they did something like that, and there's an app you really want, just google the apk through your phone
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I'm giving the full story here. Yes, data is unlimited still, yes my phone works. I use very low amounts of data, so Im not in any way angering them. I'm just bothered at them filtering my market now, and most recently, my phone is shut down whenever I tether (via Android) using Bluetooth.
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Sprint isn't filtering your market, it's google... They did it to me as well... Upon calling them, I was informed that rooted devices are not allowed and if google finds out you have a rooted device they lock you out of your paid apps. The only way I fixed this was by running the ruu back to stock. I re-rooted a few days later and haven't had any issues since than... I agree it sucks. As for the tethering, I 4G tether using the wifi tether app that is in dsixda kitchen, made by mueller, buxton, and somone else. I regularly top 5GB of data use every month and have never had any issues, other than Sprint's weak ass 3G signal. You could check into boost, cricket, or one of you local "small time" cell dealers, some of the local shops will even flash the phone over to their service for free. Good luck in your adventure!
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Thanks, I think I'll just stay with Sprint for now. I really appreciate the responses, though. As far as Market Filtering, my issue is not full block out, but just Wireless Tether apps missing. As far as .apk installs, I'm fully familiar with those too. Sprint is otherwise a great carrier. I'm very near to Houston, and being the 4th largest City in the USA means that I get 6/6 Bars of 4G everywhere I go. Besides this, I have nothing against them. Unlimited Data is a neccesary thing on a Smartphone, in my opinion. Also, with my Bluetooth tethering (Can be done unrooted to an Asus Transformer Prime, also unrooted) I've found that as long as I put the phone into standby, it wont reboot. It only reboots if the display times-out.
Bluetooth tethering is fully within Sprint's ToS, too. (Free)
http://db.tt/BkvrkT78 ... Here you go... Here is the old school tether app if you don't have it... I too will be sticking with sprint, can't beat unlimited data with a stick. Have fun with that photon too, very nice device, I almost ditched my shift for the photon.
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sprint did break down and filter out tethering apps from their market, but honetsly can you blame them? verizon and att were teh first ones to have limited data, the first ones to tell you what you could use your 2gb's of data on.
sprint filtered out the market.. after how long of us getting a free ride? chances are if your rooting you know how to google for android tether. not saying its ideal, but id much rather have them filter the apps, then drop unl data... or send text's out to users using free tether saying they will be switched to the paid tether automatically at the end of teh to month...
Fair enough.
[Q] tethering caught with fox fi- with proxy
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
I'm on T-Mobile and have been caught tethering, I use chrome extension user-agent switcher. Choose the Android user-agent. If some pages require IE then just precede with HTTPS.
Try it.
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Another thought you could use the tether, establish a VPN tunnel to a home machine and then use the internet that way. it'll encapsulate your traffic from your laptop to your home PC so AT&T could see is traffic but not what and where. From what I've read it's either 1 of 2 ways how AT&T detect if you're tethering:
1) by detecting what type of response headers and ports your connecting on. A VPN tunnel would protect you.
2) the other rumor is that by using a tethering program (or one that's built in for that matter) uses a tethering specific APN which AT&T tracks that way. So in theory if you could specify which APN you use for tethering that would protect you.
I haven't wanted to test out these theories because I have unlimited plan and don't want to risk it.
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Another thought you could use the tether, establish a VPN tunnel to a home machine and then use the internet that way. it'll encapsulate your traffic from your laptop to your home PC so AT&T could see is traffic but not what and where. From what I've read it's either 1 of 2 ways how AT&T detect if you're tethering:
1) by detecting what type of response headers and ports your connecting on. A VPN tunnel would protect you.
2) the other rumor is that by using a tethering program (or one that's built in for that matter) uses a tethering specific APN which AT&T tracks that way. So in theory if you could specify which APN you use for tethering that would protect you.
I haven't wanted to test out these theories because I have unlimited plan and don't want to risk it.
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i have deleted the alternate APN ( which is hidden even from root users) so i am not sure if that is it.
is it possible to alter the TTL ? and if so how?
- also how would i tweak my note to use a VPN?
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i have deleted the alternate APN ( which is hidden even from root users) so i am not sure if that is it.
is it possible to alter the TTL ? and if so how?
- also how would i tweak my note to use a VPN?
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Personally I'd handle the VPN on the laptop/computer instead of the phone itself. Inherently there's an overhead for a VPN and requires processing power which would slow down your throughput on your phone if the phone was handling that.
Here's a link that has a decent walk through if you want to use the phone for the VPN.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smartphones/securely-connect-your-android-smartphone-via-vpn/3321
What APN did you delete? can you post the values of it? Also why do you want to change your TTL?
I do not know how at &t does it, but a friend was one of the first owner of a 10" tablet with internal 3g years ago. His provider accused him doing tethering.
We assumed that they check the screen resolution of the browser which some web sites use to optimise the layout.
After short discussion, he could convince them and they droped the case.
Not that I'm in any way knowledgeable in the context of this topic, but when you mentioned the alteration and/or deletion of hidden APN data...
Bear in mind that a stock GB build for the ATT note, contains 1352 separate APN's....
And I'm not sure if the hidden file will capture the additional data or not to prevent detection, but I thought I'd post anyway just in case it helps at all ...g
Edit : I can't say for sure where these APN logs are stored or how/when they are accessed, but I know they exist as they can be seen when backing or restoring the GB or ICS UCLF6 Builds when tracking the line by line process.
Good luck to you gentlemen, I have nothing else to offer on the subject ....sorry ....g
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I do not know how at &t does it, but a friend was one of the first owner of a 10" tablet with internal 3g years ago. His provider accused him doing tethering.
We assumed that they check the screen resolution of the browser which some web sites use to optimise the layout.
After short discussion, he could convince them and they droped the case.
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If that's the case, that sort of data can be masked by a VPN tunnel. But I think it's a little more complex than that because there's quite a few tablets on AT&T now.
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If that's the case, that sort of data can be masked by a VPN tunnel. But I think it's a little more complex than that because there's quite a few tablets on AT&T now.
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Sure, they will have improved their detection, but it will be based on fingerprinting for the traffic of commonly used desktop applications. VPN will avoid this, but using VPN all the time might be suspiscious per se.
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Sure, they will have improved their detection, but it will be based on fingerprinting for the traffic of commonly used desktop applications. VPN will avoid this, but using VPN all the time might be suspiscious per se.
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Agreed, it would look suspicious, but suspicion isn't enough to warrant AT&T to switch your account.
I got the email from AT&T about a year ago warning me about tethering and I called the number and she said their system looks for many thing and throws up red flags when it can prove you are tethering. She said they have to have proof before they can warn people. I was using my device to tether an iPod touch and she told me the reason I was caught was because I had downloaded apps from the App Store on an I device but my sim card was never shown to be inside an Idevice. It was crazy because I used several devices to tether for at least three years without being caught and within a week of using the iPod I was caught.
How dare we use the services we pay for! Such arrogance I have never seen to think att shouldn't be able to double dip. Vote Romney 2012 and deregulate more!
I got a warning once after watching Netflix... on my phone. They're usually bull****.
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Earlier this month, I was on vacay and decided to use my phone to tether to my laptop (wasnt going to pay $12 at the hotel for damn sure), and I forgot and left it on thru one night. I didn't really "tether" per say, I turned my phone to a hotspot actually and it's not like my internet usage was higher than normal neither.
Why does at&t trip when you gotta pay anyway? (if no unlimited plan of course)
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Why does at&t trip when you gotta pay anyway? (if no unlimited plan of course)
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Well because AT&T wants to get you for every single penny they can. They want to charge you for a data plan, then a tether plan and roaming plan, and idevice plan, a non-idevice plan, a gps plan, a navigation plan, a text to speech plan, your grandma is a dirty girl plan, your connected to more than one tower at a time plan, a video chat plan. I'm sure you get the point, if they can squeeze that extra penny from the people and force them to pay higher prices, even though it alienates their consumers, they know people aren't going to leave. The market isn't who has the best service gets the most customers anymore. It's you will use us because we're all owned by the same company and we just give you the illusion that you have choices, but in reality all your money are belong to us.
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I have a 3 gig plan and use about 8 gigs a month.. I tether my ps3 and play online and stuff like that.. I have never heard from AT&T..
Surely they can see when I'm connected to Playstation Network using massive amounts of data..
Its powered by Jellybeaned AOKP!
Did you delete the tethering manager program?
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How dare we use the services we pay for! Such arrogance I have never seen to think att shouldn't be able to double dip. Vote Romney 2012 and deregulate more!
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I have a 3 gig plan and use about 8 gigs a month.. I tether my ps3 and play online and stuff like that.. I have never heard from AT&T..
Surely they can see when I'm connected to Playstation Network using massive amounts of data..
Its powered by Jellybeaned AOKP!
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aside from charging you for tethering...they dont charge you for the overage from the 3gig to 8gig? that has to be a lot
Just got a Google Nexus 7 and went to connect it to my SII as a mobile hotspot only to find out that this feature is blocked by AT$T. I found an app in the Play Store that makes it work. Used the trial to test before spending the $15 on the Pro version. Before I do I want to know if there's any way AT$T can determine I'm using the phone this way and shut me down? I don't plan on tethering or using huge amounts of data, just want the convenience of using the tablet when and where I want. It's my data and it should not matter how I use it or on what device. Can AT$T tell that I'm using my phone this way?
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Just got a Google Nexus 7 and went to connect it to my SII as a mobile hotspot only to find out that this feature is blocked by AT$T. I found an app in the Play Store that makes it work. Used the trial to test before spending the $15 on the Pro version. Before I do I want to know if there's any way AT$T can determine I'm using the phone this way and shut me down? I don't plan on tethering or using huge amounts of data, just want the convenience of using the tablet when and where I want. It's my data and it should not matter how I use it or on what device. Can AT$T tell that I'm using my phone this way?
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I've tethered several times with no problems but it has been only very minimal data. If large amounts of data is being consumed through tethering then possibly but I cannot guarantee anything
People getting busted has been on the rise. There's actually a handful of threads detailing the mixed experiences, here. It can be done, that's pretty clear, whether you're targeted for suspicious data traffic, or data hops, or if you're randomly screened, however it's happening, it is becoming prevalent. That aside, I don't recall if foxfi was free, but I know if it wasn't it wasn't very expensive, as I'm pretty cheap lol that is if you're still looking for low cost effective tethering work around.
I've been tethering my tablet for the last few months. Usually just play store updates and some internet browsing. I have received no warnings yet. I think if you don't go hog wild and stream music/videos it will increase your chances of flying under their radar.
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I understand that high data usage will trigger suspicion from the carrier. What I want to know is can they tell if you are doing this regardless of the level of traffic? Is there some identifier when you are tethering or hot-spotting that alerts AT$T even before you go crazy with data? I don't expect my usage to increase much with the tablet, but I would like to be able to connect it to my phone to download more Kindle books or check my FB without worrying that AT$T might shut me down even if I stay under my 2gb monthly plan. The program I found for enabling wifi hot spot on the phone is the best out there, but at $15 I just want to make sure AT$T won't be able to identify my using it and shut me off pretty quick somehow.
There are many theories on how they detect tethering. User agent strings. Packet times. Etc. None are proven.
The only way you can be 100% sure they won't do anything to you is get the At&t plan.
P.s. I didn't pay for any tethering app. Most of the custom roms have the hot spot feature enabled.
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There are many theories on how they detect tethering. User agent strings. Packet times. Etc. None are proven.
The only way you can be 100% sure they won't do anything to you is get the At&t plan.
P.s. I didn't pay for any tethering app. Most of the custom roms have the hot spot feature enabled.
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What he said. There is no need to pay for an app. There are free ones out there, and more often than not, it's built into the ROM.
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Well, I have no desire (or need) to run a custom ROM. I'm on stock, rooted ICS and it works fine for my needs. Reading the reviews of the free ones it appears almost all of them have issues running on ICS. The one I tested did not, so I went ahead and paid for the Pro version and it runs great. Did a little Netflix and YouTube viewing, some Slacker listening and never lost connection on the Nexus 7. more importantly, when I disconnect from the hotspot there is no need to do a reboot, unlike some of the free apps. Here's hoping AT$T has no way to tell (beyond abnormal data usage) or doesn't care.
Best of luck! I know they haven't bothered me yet.
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I have a rooted (via this wonderful site) HTC rezound on a grandfathered unlimited Verizon plan. As soon as I was rooted I installed the only wifi tether that I could get to work. After a few months of wonderfully excessive data usage both via tether and phone use, I can no longer maintain a connection to the internet if i use a wireless tether. I can stay connected with a USB tether.
Starting from a fresh boot the phone has a great 4G connection with speed tests over 20mbps. Once I start the wireless tether, I can connect a device and download no more than a few mb of data before the connection is lost. The phone continues to say that I have a great connection to the tower, but I can not connect to the internet via the tether or any app on my my phone. Speed test apps say there is "no server connection" but that I am on the Verizon network. The only way to get the server connection back is to reboot the phone. I have found that I can use Foxfi USB tether to connect a device without losing a server connection, but what good is that to multiple devices?
Is it possible that Verizon can tell that I am wirelessly tethering and is blocking my server connection? It seems like a stretch, seeing as Foxfi USB works (wireless does not), but I would not be surprised. And if they are doing this, wouldn't that be illegal according to the "Open Access Rule" they are required to abide by?
If not that, then what could be the problem?
Thanks for your help.
I have never had an issue tethering the three years I have been doing it with Verizon. I am also a grandfathered Unlimited user. The Open Access Agreement only works with new contracts. Unlimited contracts have to follow Verizon's old policy as we aren't paying extra if we go over a certain amount (like tiered plans do).
I would blame either the ROM or program. I use the native tether from AOSP ROMs and have no issues you are experiencing
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Uzephi said:
The Open Access Agreement only works with new contracts. Unlimited contracts have to follow Verizon's old policy as we aren't paying extra if we go over a certain amount (like tiered plans do).
I would blame either the ROM or program.
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Uzephi, if you are going to post a reply, know what you are talking about first. Aside from not knowing anything about “Open Access” standards, you didn’t even notice that the problem materialized after months of usage without issue. So it couldn’t be an issue with the ROM or program. YOU NEED TO READ AND UNDERSTAND A POST BEFORE REPLYING.
The Open Access Agreement or Rule is a condition of Verizon’s usage of the C-Block 700 Mhz spectrum that was won at an FCC auction in 2008. It is a stipulation that was enforced in 2012 when the FCC fined Verizon $1.25 million for blocking access to tethering apps. It has nothing to do with grandfathered accounts or new customer contracts. It is all about how Verizon manages data transmission via its LTE network.
What I was proposing was that Verizon has figured out a way to detect tethering and is able to shut down network connections. The loss of a network connection is intermittent and hard to predict. Sometimes my connection to a network server is maintained while my tethered device cannot make a decent connection. Sometimes neither my tethered devises nor my phone can connect to a server. Sometimes the connection is strong. The reason I think that this is something that Verizon is doing is because if I reboot my phone, most of the time everything goes back to normal, at least for a little while. I have considered throttling, but I am in a small town, I can’t imagine that Verizon would throttle their LTE in a small town, let alone throttle it at all.
So, any INFORMED thoughts?
slyckt said:
And if they are doing this, wouldn't that be illegal according to the "Open Access Rule" they are required to abide by?
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"The FCC also is saying that Verizon cannot charge customers on tiered data plans the $20 a month tethering fee, but it can charge it for those customers who are on an unlimited data plan." source
slyckt said:
It has nothing to do with grandfathered accounts or new customer contracts. It is all about how Verizon manages data transmission via its LTE network.
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Read response above. I was informing you of a stipulation you apparently do not know about your own contract.
I have a similar contract and plan: unlimited. Why would one be stopped and not the majority? I use well over 150GB a month(mostly all tethered) and never had an issue, so I know it isn't Verizon stopping it. Please read up on what you are raging about before making accusations. It is not illegal for them to stop unlimited plans from tethering as you claim.
Edit: my hypothesis for previous post?
Similarities: Phone, data plan
Differences: ROM, Program
Goal? Trying to tether.
Results: my phone, Plan, ROMs (AOSP) and program (app) let me tether a lot.
Why can't you? Check the differences.
Maybe the app updated in the background and broke your tether.
Please act more respectful to a suggestive post instead of raging at my hypothesis.
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slyckt said:
...... I have found that I can use Foxfi USB tether to connect a device without losing a server connection, but what good is that to multiple devices?
......It seems like a stretch, seeing as Foxfi USB works (wireless does not).....
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It is the app... Please check before raging.
http://pdanet.co/help/devices.php
" *If you have one of the following models, the latest Android update has broken WiFi mode but it may still be possible to support it in future FoxFi updates: Samsung Epic Touch (Sprint), HTC Rezound (Verizon), LG Lucid (Verizon), T-mobile Galaxy SII and Samsung Proclaim."
Our device is not supported by foxfi anymore..... Please for the love of god check your APP before claiming that it isn't it!
You most likely got the Global update and it broke your foxfi, or somehow it was working and now it doesn't anymore and you didn't look at the app first.
Even though you were mean, I helped you. Please return the favor and help another @$$hole today
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