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I'm not big into the 3D trend but my oh my those specs on the Evo 3D might just make it my Evo 4G upgrade
what do you think?
also, do you think HTC will lock it down as they did the incredible S?
EDIT: oops... wrong section. hey MODS can you move this to general please?
I have the same thought. I am waiting for a dual core phone with qHD resolution.
I am not big fan of 3D. Since the phone could be slightly light if not for 3D I guess.
But why not? wondering whether I could watch 3D movie in this phone.
I'm with you guys. I'm not big on 3D but am big on dual core. The Incredible is locked becuase of Verizon. Was the original Evo locked? If not, I dont believe the new one will.
Yes... pretty much every phone is locked. Its encrypted that we dont want.
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Yes... pretty much every phone is locked. Its encrypted that we dont want.
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yup...
im not too big on 3d either but those specs hit the spot. i wouldn't mind 3d additionally.
at first I thought "nice, 3d will be a gimmick" then I thought about all the awesome games to use it, then all the youtube vids I can watch, then about how I can now watch the 3d versions of movies. it will eventually drive me to purchase a 3d tv as I will want to play the 3d games with my ps3 too
A couple of things interest me regarding this phone:
- Newer, dual-core CPU
- qHD display
- The main camera(s) have a lower megapixel count than the original EVO, but can record in 1080p, which leads me to hope that both still and video recording (optics and software) are superior than the original EVO (which has a higher pixel count but doesn't have the greatest optics/software combo)
- same weight as original EVO
- 3D will be a neat gimmick
About the only thing I don't care much for is the rear of the phone, it looks like a pair of goggles were glued to the back of it. Original EVO looks better to my eyes.
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A couple of things interest me regarding this phone:
- Newer, dual-core CPU
- qHD display
- The main camera(s) have a lower megapixel count than the original EVO, but can record in 1080p, which leads me to hope that both still and video recording (optics and software) are superior than the original EVO (which has a higher pixel count but doesn't have the greatest optics/software combo)
- same weight as original EVO
- 3D will be a neat gimmick
About the only thing I don't care much for is the rear of the phone, it looks like a pair of goggles were glued to the back of it. Original EVO looks better to my eyes.
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anyone here actually taking their 8mpx pictures from their phone, printing them out at full size, and putting them on their walls? doubt it....
mpx doesnt matter at all, its the quality of the actual sensor
a kick ass sensor 5mpx camera will produce much better pictures than a crappy sensor 12mpx camera.
How is the battery life on this particular sucker relative to that of the original EVO?
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How is the battery life on this particular sucker relative to that of the original EVO?
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How would anybody know that in a phone that isn't out yet? My guess will be like any other smart phone on battery.
How do u guys think the Evo 3D still pictures will compare in quality to the original Evo?
I know megapixels isn't everything, and of course I'm talking only about 2D stills, but I'm wondering if the still pictures from the 3D will be better
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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Hmm, I am sure there are MANY people that would take offense to that.How is photography any less of a profession then any other job? I would like to see you even come close to some of the pictures professionals can take. The cameras crap on it...
yeah those nokia cameras are ****ing sweet
I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
HTC usually either has hits or miss on the camera. Well just have to wait and see.
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Two 8mp images per 3d picture is probably why. 5mp will take enough space as it is.
That and the thing is... there really is no way currently to have a "great" 8 mp camera on a phone, with a lens/ sensor that small.
Yea the reason for 5mp instead of dual 8mp has to do with image/video file size more than likely.
As for the Evo 1 camera, is have to say its the first phone camera I even considered replacing my real camera with. I have a 12mp ~$200 Sony camera that I never use. 4x6 prints look just as good on both. The Sony handles low light better, but its not worth carrying an extra device
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i dont really care about an upgrade to the camera, as i find it is decent enough for its usability and quality
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they better work on that damned flash....while my pictures are good on the evo, at night everyone is a ghost
The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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You got specs to back that up?
i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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lol. In all the pictures i have seen comparing the two, the evo has been worse.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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My 2cents on this:
Photography is an art, just like painting, tattoos, piercings, acting (stage and TV) and have all been around for as long as history has been written (except for the acting on TV of course). But to talk about getting paid for a hobby, lets now include sports (ALL Sports) and these are also considered "hobbies" but these people get paid more than doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. You don't complain about them though.
About the camera, like said before....its a phone, 5MP is awesome AND IT HAS TWO. For daily use, it should/will get the job done. If your a "professional" D) then you would not even consider using the phone for your work. It's called convenience and it's why you pay $700 for a phone that can play movies, pictures, search the web, play low quality game (that can be addictive), TEXT, have a camera and flashlight with you at all times, GPS (all this on a relatively small screen) and I guess make a call.
Don't discriminate!
I'm a massive fan of the EVO and am pre-ordering the 3D immediately. That being said, the EVO 1 pictures aren't as good as the Iphones. In Outdoor, sunny situations they are excellent but indoors they suck compare to the iphone. Also, the flash handling really is garbage, I'm always trying to adjust the white balance to account for it or take my picture slightly further back etc etc. It's just ****ty and then I see my brother iPhone 4 pics using OOTB settings taking the same stupid picture of our family at the table and its way better.
I would really like to see some information stating that the CMOS sensor is 2x as good...it certainly better be!!
Another note, the iPhone 4 video is a WORLD above the EVO in lower light. It embarrassing. I brag about my phone but then can't use the video from a basketball game because its indoors and again...brothers iPhone videos look pretty good.
A side note, can't stand apple and their draconian koolaid they sell all the schmucks on
Camera Quality
I've found that when were dealing with pictures in natural lighting, the results are absolutely AMAZING, but when it comes to low light, darkness and requiring the flash, that is when the coloring was off and blurry etc. i would expect the same from the new camera just as basically every phone cam i've seen.
So am I the only person who would prefer having a single, high quality 8mp (1080p recording) camera as opposed to the dual 3D cameras? I already pre-ordered the EVO 3D, so no matter what I'm excited about it, but personally I could have done without the 3D and instead would prefer a better quality single camera. I might switch over to the EVO 4G+ if it ever comes to Sprint because it seems like exactly what I'm looking for.
Either way, can't wait to get my 3D! I've loved my EVO 4G since I've owned it but I've always hated the crappy Adreno200 GPU
The lens and camera hardware are so small on these phones that 8mp vs 5mp has nothing to do with quality. The iPhone 4's camera is 5MP and takes better pictures than the EVO 4G's 8MP camera. From what I've seen, the EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in that department as well.
I HIGHLY doubt Sprint will get that phone. And if I had a choice, I wouldve gotten the 4G+.
the photos from the E3D are on par if not better than the EVO 4G's pictures
I would rather have one camera with a bigger sensor, that being said the 3D takes just as good if not better 2D pics than my Evo 4G before it. And I don't see what's wrong with the reviewers it isn't hard to take a good 3D photo on the phone either.
i wanted a larger 8mp or higher camera also but after using the 5mp with the E3D im happy to have a decent camera on hand when i need it, if i need excellent pictures ill take my Nikon
Yeah I love my Nikon also but I just hate lugging that thing around LOL! Hopefully the E3D camera is decent and more importantly FAST! Like, I want to be able to take a quick snapshot and have the picture come out decently. I don't want to have to buy an LX5 or an S95. My idea of a good camera phone is the iPhone 4, just so you have a point of reference.
How fast/responsive is the E3D camera? Gosh I can't wait, just a few more days!
I personally love the 3D camera. I mean, do you really need to take Cinema quality video with a cellphone, no. I think it will be a pretty fun camera to have and interested to see what else this phone will do once more 3D content is available.
So far I have noticed strange behavior when taking pics... when I hit the shutter in low-light situations, the picture on screen when the shutter sounds fires off is not the same as the one saved... it's a significant delay and subjects have moved, etc. Not sure why the camera 'blinks' or whatever... reminds me of the iPhone.
only problem im seeing is the pictures that we see are saving INVERTED not on all but some pics and i don't know why
To be honest, I really don't care about the camera on the back. I post all my pictures worth saving on Facebook, and that resizes the crap outta them, making even an awesome camera look meh.
As for the people saying they'd rather have the Evo 4G+...
Evo 4G+
Pro: Bigger Camera
Con: Doesn't exist yet.
You don't have that choice, Sorry.
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So far I have noticed strange behavior when taking pics... when I hit the shutter in low-light situations, the picture on screen when the shutter sounds fires off is not the same as the one saved... it's a significant delay and subjects have moved, etc. Not sure why the camera 'blinks' or whatever... reminds me of the iPhone.
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Here is why that happens. In low light situations, the shutter needs to stay open longer to allow more light to hit the sensor and "burn" the pic. So the shutter sounds when the digital "shutter opens", but if it stays open for anything more than 1/60 of a sec (which in low light this camera shoots at about 1/30), there is going to be a significant delay and you will end up with a different shot that you thought you would get. In low light - make sure the subject stays still until the preview pic comes up - or use the flash...
Specwise the Evo 3D is having 2 5MP cameras on the back. But some websites say that the Evo 3D captures 2D images in 5MP and 3D images in 2MP (correct me if I am wrong).And in 2D mode The Evo 3D uses the upper camera to take photos and videos.So the camera below it can be 2MP instead of 5MP.Then what is the need of the having 2 5MP cameras instead of 1 5MP and the other 2MP.
I'm lost with what you said...but I will try..to many damn numbers...so the pictures will be of equal resolution since you can take 3d pictures at 5 mp.
It is in deed strange, why can't E3D take 5MP 3D pictures. Maybe there will be a firmware update in the future who knows.
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It is in deed strange, why can't E3D take 5MP 3D pictures. Maybe there will be a firmware update in the future who knows.
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I think it has to do with the processing power to "combine" those two separate pics into one 3D image. You think the camera was laggy before, try waiting for the CPU to stitch together 5MP images...
I thought the camera take 2 seperate pictures and use parallax barrier to make one preceived as depth, aslo E3D has more processing power than ordinary point and shoot 3D cameras.
From what i have read the Evo 3d takes 2 x 2mp pictures in 3D mode and links them together to get 4mp.
Regardless of that, the phone takes great pics in 2D and 3D.
Love that dedicated camera button..no more yoga finger stretches to tap on screen while trying to keep steady..
Simplest answer may be the best answer... It was designed as having to take a 2MP 3d image because of how the screen displays natively.
Why 2 5mp cams? Because they are cheap and identical, from the same manufacture and they could only use 1 cam assembly Chinese kid instead of 2 to install 2 different non alike cameras. Allows them to just buy 1 sensor in greater bulk than 2 model sensors. Hence, cheaper to produce.
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Simplest answer may be the best answer... It was designed as having to take a 2MP 3d image because of how the screen displays natively.
Why 2 5mp cams? Because they are cheap and identical, from the same manufacture and they could only use 1 cam assembly Chinese kid instead of 2 to install 2 different non alike cameras. Allows them to just buy 1 sensor in greater bulk than 2 model sensors. Hence, cheaper to produce.
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but the indian GSM evo 3d have the upper 5MP and lower 2MP cam
Think of 3d as blue ray It's twice the SIze of the file. And it seems I get 5 mp in both. I miss the og EVO camera. And panorama. In windows there was a hack in the registry where we bumped up from 3.2 mp, to 8 mp in panoramic. Up too 7 stitches. Problem is we ran out of memory for more than 3 stitches. I miss those options.
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There's many Roms that add panorama camera mod. And there's a ROM that claims it boost camera up to 8mp but I havnt tried it myself
Hey folks, I just picked up a Galaxy Nexus when it was on sale for $549. I'll probably be selling the Amaze soon. Let me know what you guys would like to see comparison wise between the two. I'm running Bulletproof on the Amaze and AOKP on the Nexus.
Id like to see picture comparison between the two. thank you
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Id like to see picture comparison between the two. thank you
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I already had a thread a while back regarding picture comparison, there is no comparison as I've been told!!! camera and pictures are below par on the galaxy nexus. There are at least a dozen phones out that take better pics. the new HTC camera is the best on the market, better than iphone 4s's as well... The new camera is currently employed in the amaze and the rezound. f/2.2 28 mm wide angle lense, backside illuminated sensor. the viewing angle is very wide, meaning you don't have to keep moving back to get someone in the pic. f/2.2 gives you very close and clear macro shots and very good shots in general... the iphone 4s has an aperture of f/2.4 the lower the aperture the closer you can get a macro also Smaller aperture=greater depth of field/wider zone of focus.
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I already had a thread a while back regarding picture comparison, there is no comparison as I've been told!!! camera and pictures are below par on the galaxy nexus. There are at least a dozen phones out that take better pics. the new HTC camera is the best on the market, better than iphone 4s's as well... The new camera is currently employed in the amaze and the rezound. f/2.2 28 mm wide angle lense, backside illuminated sensor. the viewing angle is very wide, meaning you don't have to keep moving back to get someone in the pic. f/2.2 gives you very close and clear macro shots and very good shots in general... the iphone 4s has an aperture of f/2.4 the lower the aperture the closer you can get a macro also Smaller aperture=greater depth of field/wider zone of focus.
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dude I know you love reading tech articles and stuff but I am not that big fan of blabla details they post on some phonereview websites. who cares what the characteristics of the cameras are on the paper? when it comes to pictures the image talks itself so 2 pictures of the same object will be the best way to judge which camera is better
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dude I know you love reading tech articles and stuff but I am not that big fan of blabla details they post on some phonereview websites. who cares what the characteristics of the cameras are on the paper? when it comes to pictures the image talks itself so 2 pictures of the same object will be the best way to judge which camera is better
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Because some specs on paper actually matter.. the MOST important thing in the camera is the lense, and sensor which HTC has one of the best in these phones atm, along with Nokia, and Sonys xperia line. I was so disapointed when looking at the pictuers and video taken with the galaxy nexus, its def not worth the $600+ i would never pay that for a phone anyways..
edit: thats why dslr are some of the best cameras on the market. you dont see people saying "its just specs on paper, and they dont matter". its because of the the lense and sensor they put into the cameras. i can see people saying that to MP because you cant really tell a difference between 5 and 8 MP comeing to regular pictures unless zooming in or video
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dude I know you love reading tech articles and stuff but I am not that big fan of blabla details they post on some phonereview websites. who cares what the characteristics of the cameras are on the paper? when it comes to pictures the image talks itself so 2 pictures of the same object will be the best way to judge which camera is better
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Lets just stop reading about specks of things from now one because they don't matter.
I also love how people come to this forum saying iphone 4s camera is better. I have personally taken multiple pictures with my phone and my friends 4s and put them on my 1080 p screen at home...Amaze kicks the butt out of 4s...some people think the camera on the 4s is better because the picture they see on the phone looks better...It's not a fair comparison. The two screens have different dpi's screen saturations etc. If you want to compare pics...get a big screen best quality screen you can find and connect your computer to it...maybe a monitor better than a 1080p... then judge for yourself...screen saturation of monitors also affect how a picture looks. heck print the picture ans see which one is better.
I have also taken pictures with the galaxy nexus in the store and with my amaze, even with bluetoothed all pictures to both phones and compared, so I have the same screen comparing the pictures...go do it and see which one is better...If you come here for advice and you get one, why do yo argue against it. BTW my brother and I are very much into photographers, my brother more than me. and specs do matter. megapixels after 5 might not not matter as much, but sensors matter the most, and amaze has a very good one, and lense aperture, lense quality and viewing field all matter.
go research and see if aperture size matters!!! I blieve galaxy nexus aperture is like f/2.75 vs ours f/2.2...you're saying specs don't matter...then go buy a computer with the least amount of ram and a slow hard drive and cpu...specs don't matter.
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Lets just stop reading about specks of things from now one because they don't matter.
I also love how people come to this forum saying iphone 4s camera is better. I have personally taken multiple pictures with my phone and my friends 4s and put them on my 1080 p screen at home...Amaze kicks the butt out of 4s...some people think the camera on the 4s is better because the picture they see on the phone looks better...It's not a fair comparison. The two screens have different dpi's screen saturations etc. If you want to compare pics...get a big screen best quality screen you can find and connect your computer to it...maybe a monitor better than a 1080p... then judge for yourself...screen saturation of monitors also affect how a picture looks. heck print the picture ans see which one is better.
I have also taken pictures with the galaxy nexus in the store and with my amaze, even with bluetoothed all pictures to both phones and compared, so I have the same screen comparing the pictures...go do it and see which one is better...If you come here for advice and you get one, why do yo argue against it. BTW my brother and I are very much into photographers, my brother more than me. and specs do matter. megapixels after 5 might not not matter as much, but sensors matter the most, and amaze has a very good one, and lense aperture, lense quality and viewing field all matter.
go research and see if aperture size matters!!! I blieve galaxy nexus aperture is like f/2.84 vs ours f/2.2...you're saying specs don't matter...then go buy a computer with the least amount of ram and a slow hard drive and cpu...specs don't matter.
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Exactly my thoghts, lol. of course everything will look better on the iphones screen its higher resolution on a smaller screen with more vibrant colors. same goes with those sammy devices super AMOLED + screens
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Lets just stop reading about specks of things from now one because they don't matter.
I also love how people come to this forum saying iphone 4s camera is better. I have personally taken multiple pictures with my phone and my friends 4s and put them on my 1080 p screen at home...Amaze kicks the butt out of 4s...some people think the camera on the 4s is better because the picture they see on the phone looks better...It's not a fair comparison. The two screens have different dpi's screen saturations etc. If you want to compare pics...get a big screen best quality screen you can find and connect your computer to it...maybe a monitor better than a 1080p... then judge for yourself...screen saturation of monitors also affect how a picture looks. heck print the picture ans see which one is better.
I have also taken pictures with the galaxy nexus in the store and with my amaze, even with bluetoothed all pictures to both phones and compared, so I have the same screen comparing the pictures...go do it and see which one is better...If you come here for advice and you get one, why do yo argue against it. BTW my brother and I are very much into photographers, my brother more than me. and specs do matter. megapixels after 5 might not not matter as much, but sensors matter the most, and amaze has a very good one, and lense aperture, lense quality and viewing field all matter.
go research and see if aperture size matters!!! I blieve galaxy nexus aperture is like f/2.75 vs ours f/2.2...you're saying specs don't matter...then go buy a computer with the least amount of ram and a slow hard drive and cpu...specs don't matter.
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http://inluminent.com/2005/12/14/digital-photography-101-aperture/
someone was saying in another thread that iphone takes better low light pictures...thats ignorant with lower aperture number you get a bigger aperture size...means more light comming into the camera...so iphone 4s's f/2.4 has a smaller aperture thus letting less light in, than a f/2.2 which has a better aperture letting more light in...just ignorant...lower aperture also leads to better clarity and overall and closer macro shots!!! people should read a little camera 101 before they start posting things based on pure opinions about camera's.
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explains why my brothers incredible has a huge lense compared to mine and looks worse when taking pictures xD
seansk said:
http://inluminent.com/2005/12/14/digital-photography-101-aperture/
someone was saying in another thread that iphone takes better low light pictures...thats ignorant with lower aperture number you get a bigger aperture size...means more light comming into the camera...so iphone 4s's f/2.4 has a smaller aperture thus letting less light in, than a f/2.2 which has a better aperture letting more light in...just ignorant...lower aperture also leads to better clarity and overall and closer macro shots!!! people should read a little camera 101 before they start posting things based on pure opinions about camera's.
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U are a "mod" u know rules better than me so y dnt u gtfo? This thread is about comparison the op offered and thats what i want to see two pics and ur comments have nothing to do with the op
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explains why my brothers incredible has a huge lense compared to mine and looks worse when taking pictures xD
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the lense has nothing to do with aperture...on point and shoot cameras aperture size changes based on lighting, on dslr's you can control them manually....on in general lower aperture number is means a bigger aperture hole; thus more light. older phones have higher aperture numbers thus letting in less light, less clarity etc. The big lense size has nothing to do with aperture...aperture is like the iris of the camera...
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U are a "mod" u know rules better than me so y dnt u gtfo? This thread is about comparison the op offered and thats what i want to see two pics and ur comments have nothing to do with the op
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He was just saying how the HTC camera is better than the Galaxy Nexus, and used the iphone as an example because iphones have such "big hype" for no reason. a good example imo cause everyone thinks iphones are better than everything because the Apple logo/name. then you replied to him saying specs dont matter blah, with that comment he had prove you wrong so i wouldnt be pointing pictures and telling him to gtfo. no need for that
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U are a "mod" u know rules better than me so y dnt u gtfo? This thread is about comparison the op offered and thats what i want to see two pics and ur comments have nothing to do with the op
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I am not a mod. I am sorry I offended you...I have tried explaining things over and over about camera's in different threads, but people just like to be ignorant about it...I admit I am sensitive when it comes to camera quality! hope you find what you're looking for! Again my appologise I came off as being an a hole...but there's not need to curse. truce.
seansk said:
the lense has nothing to do with aperture...on point and shoot cameras aperture size changes based on lighting, on dslr's you can control them manually....on in general lower aperture number is means a bigger aperture hole; thus more light. older phones have higher aperture numbers thus letting in less light, less clarity etc. The big lense size has nothing to do with aperture...aperture is like the iris of the camera...
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Yeah thats what i meant, when i had my sensation i was looking at his incredible and comparing the camera side by side and his aperture/lense looks much bigger and i thought to myself how come the photos look so crappy then lol. i know a bit about cameras but im not genius
edit: on topic i wonder why samsung picked such a crap camera on the galaxy nexus then on their galaxy s ii had a pretty good camera.. makes no sense, isnt the galaxy nexus supposed to top the android market? like the nexus 1 did back in the day
stratax said:
Yeah thats what i meant, when i had my sensation i was looking at his incredible and comparing the camera side by side and his aperture/lense looks much bigger and i thought to myself how come the photos look so crappy then lol. i know a bit about cameras but im not genius
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I know there are some sonyericsson phones out there with variable aperture size...If we could change aperture size's like dslr's on our phone it would be heaven!!!! As of now...the lighting is controlled by software...on point and shoots lighting is changed by changing aperture size like the iris of your eye. This controls both lighting and clarity, phones do this through software, thus having a bigger aperture (smaller aperture size f/size) is beneficial because the software can always turn down the lighting if needed...but you cannot get more lighting if you have a smaller aperture focusing pictures is a whole other story and are done through different ways....I gotta make a thread about camera's let me get some good sites and info together and i'll make a nice thread regarding camera quality.
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stratax said:
Yeah thats what i meant, when i had my sensation i was looking at his incredible and comparing the camera side by side and his aperture/lense looks much bigger and i thought to myself how come the photos look so crappy then lol. i know a bit about cameras but im not genius
edit: on topic i wonder why samsung picked such a crap camera on the galaxy nexus then on their galaxy s ii had a pretty good camera.. makes no sense, isnt the galaxy nexus supposed to top the android market? like the nexus 1 did back in the day
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I believe its a little bit of cost issue a little bit of politics. Samsung didn't want their best phone to be the google one. I think google gets a good margin of profit from these types of devices. They probably sacrificed the camera for a 720p screen for cost reasons...the 720p pentile amoled is not that great...the rezounds 720p slcd is much better: 1. because its a smaller screen and has a higher pixel density, higher than iphone, lol!!! and 2. its a regular rgb matrix instead of pentile!!
seansk said:
I know there are some sonyericsson phones out there with variable aperture size...If we could change aperture size's like dslr's on our phone it would be heaven!!!! As of now...the lighting is controlled by software...on point and shoots lighting is changed by changing aperture size like the iris of your eye. This controls both lighting and clarity, phones do this through software, thus having a bigger aperture (smaller aperture size f/size) is beneficial because the software can always turn down the lighting if needed...but you cannot get more lighting if you have a smaller aperture focusing pictures is a whole other story and are done through different ways....I gotta make a thread about camera's let me get some good sites and info together and i'll make a nice thread regarding camera quality.
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Imagine if nikon helped make a camera on a new smartphone lol, seeing there new NIkon 1 how they make a camera that great in that small of a size is great. im sure phone cameras will only get better
remember back in the day like the pantech phones (pantech matrix for example) haha. had like a 1mp camera and people were hype just because it was a phone, with a camera. now we have cameras on our phones as good as some point and shoot cameras. and video almost as good as a DSLR
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I believe its a little bit of cost issue a little bit of politics. Samsung didn't want their best phone to be the google one. I think google gets a good margin of profit from these types of devices. They probably sacrificed the camera for a 720p screen for cost reasons...the 720p pentile amoled is not that great...the rezounds 720p slcd is much better: 1. because its a smaller screen and has a higher pixel density, higher than iphone, lol!!! and 2. its a regular rgb matrix instead of pentile!!
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Well http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/cor...easedetails/xperiaspressreleasefinal-20120110
and thats all i have to say.. haha
"4.3 inch Reality Display with Mobile BRAVIA® Engine with HD resolution screen (1280 x 720), as well as front (720p) and back (1080p) cameras for HD recording.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for fast browsing and content download, which can be stored on the internal 32GB flash storage.
12MP back camera with Sony Exmor R™ for mobile along with Fastest Capture to take shots in just 1.5 seconds directly from standby mode." even the front camera has 720p.
the pictures that were posted from it on gsm mobile were incredible.
edit: Aperture is f/2.4. and Exmor R sensor http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-S-12MP-camera-samples_id25781
stratax said:
Imagine if nikon helped make a camera on a new smartphone lol, seeing there new NIkon 1 how they make a camera that great in that small of a size is great. im sure phone cameras will only get better
remember back in the day like the pantech phones (pantech matrix for example) haha. had like a 1mp camera and people were hype just because it was a phone, with a camera. now we have cameras on our phones as good as some point and shoot cameras. and video almost as good as a DSLR
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Well http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/cor...easedetails/xperiaspressreleasefinal-20120110
and thats all i have to say.. haha
"4.3 inch Reality Display with Mobile BRAVIA® Engine with HD resolution screen (1280 x 720), as well as front (720p) and back (1080p) cameras for HD recording.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for fast browsing and content download, which can be stored on the internal 32GB flash storage.
12MP back camera with Sony Exmor R™ for mobile along with Fastest Capture to take shots in just 1.5 seconds directly from standby mode." even the front camera has 720p.
the pictures that were posted from it on gsm mobile were incredible.
edit: Aperture is f/2.4. and Exmor R sensor http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-S-12MP-camera-samples_id25781
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YES....Sony is coming back!!! I used to have a sonyericsson phone 6 years ago!!!
seansk said:
YES....Sony is coming back!!! I used to have a sonyericsson phone 6 years ago!!!
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exactly! no more ericsson haha, did you see how good the zoom/detail was on it? you can see every word on the tv which was pretty far away.. 720p display + 12mp camera with great sensor = sold. not to mention the 32gb storage and i love sonys ui. also a Playstation cerified phone.. i think Sony should have made the newest nexus xD only bad thing is the battry isnt removable and no sdcard slot but neither does the galaxy nexus
Guys whatever I just envy I didnt have class now so I could read all the stuff you are writting but seriously I am looking forward to see two pics taken with nexus and amaze
And btw i noticed u said nikon, screw nikon canon rules!
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The one thing about the Galaxy that pushed me toward switching was the AMOLED screen, it's just so pretty! The blacks are so deep and the colors so crisp. Aside from that however, the Amaze pretty much takes the cake, especially in respect to build quality and the camera as mentioned.
Either way, this comparison is rather exciting