Can anybody clarify the internal storage situation on the evo 3d? It sounds like it's essentially 1Gb (user-available), same as the sensation. So including all the ram and storage specs we have
sensation: 768Mb ram / 1Gb internal storage (user-available) / 8Gb SD
evo 3d: 1Gb ram / 1Gb internal storage (user-available) / 32Gb SD
is that right?
edit: apparently I got the included SD card wrong in the evo 3d, it's 8Gb too. So they're even closer than I thought.
I had been under the impression for months now that the sensation had less internal storage than the evo 3d, but I think I may have been mistaken and that was just an artifact of the order the information was released in: The initial specs I saw for the sensation said 1Gb internal storage, then later I found that it's apparently a 4Gb chip where most of it is used for android/sense/etc and ~1Gb is available to the user for apps. The initial specs I saw for the evo 3d said 4Gb internal storage, then now I'm finding out (and correct me if I'm wrong) that it's the same situation: most of that is used for android/sense/etc and only ~1Gb is available for user apps.
Also I know I can get a larger SD card if I need more space, but I care about storing apps in internal storage because I presume it to be faster than an SD card.
I've read there is actually a full 4GB of internal memory. Well maybe not a full 4GB more like 3.xxxx. But I could be proven wrong.
edit: okay correction 1 gb actually available to use (from those that have actually gotten hands on reviews)
EVO 3D
Internal Memory
4GB eMMC / RAM 1GB
Sensation:
Internal Memory
768 MB RAM, 4 GB Internal Storage (1 GB user addressable)
Though apps generally don't take up a lot of space, be aware that like the HTC Sensation 4G, the Evo 3D doesn't offer much internal storage. It has 4GB of internal memory but only 1GB of that is available to the user, and you can't uninstall the preloaded apps. You can move them, as well as any downloaded apps, to the preinstalled 8GB microSD card, but if you plan on loading up your phone with apps, music, and video, you might want to upgrade to a higher-capacity card. The phone's expansion slot can support up to 32GB.
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Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-evo-3d-sprint/4505-6452_7-34554507-2.html#ixzz1PmC84ElY
got this from cnet
Total internal memory=5Gb
1Gb=RAM
4Gb=eMMC
The 1 GB RAM should be what stores all of your mtd partitions. boot, recovery, wimax, system, data, cache, etc. The eMMC storage is used for music, documents, pics, etc if this is the location you specified to save it to.
Once this thing is rooted we can use the eMMC for whatever we want. All we need to do is partition it if you want more than 1 partition or format it to ext and use it as /data. But of course we will need a custom kernel that supports ext2, ext3, ext4 to use it as /data. Personally I am looking for a dev that can get a kernel with ext fs and loop support included for my own project.
Daimoncode said:
Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-evo-3d-sprint/4505-6452_7-34554507-2.html#ixzz1PmC84ElY
got this from cnet
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When the hell did they test..
The camera can also capture 1080p HD video in 2D (720p in 3D), and video quality was also good.
Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-evo-3d-sprint/4505-6452_7-34554507-2.html#ixzz1Pn2pXj00
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I want 1080p recording. But I'll live with 720p until they update it.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Total internal memory=5Gb
1Gb=RAM
4Gb=eMMC
The 1 GB RAM should be what stores all of your mtd partitions. boot, recovery, wimax, system, data, cache, etc.
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Wrong, RAM stores running apps and running os elements. The mtd partitions boot etc would be on the ROM.
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StellarWiid said:
Wrong, RAM stores running apps and running os elements. The mtd partitions boot etc would be on the ROM.
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ROM=1GB
This is as far as I can tell
There is 4gb of memory built in for storage. HTC uses 3GB of that between Sense, Android and all the stuff they preinstall. So you have 1gb for Apps. Then you can put in up to a 32gb sd card. The reason it's important to note it's 4gb is because the rom chefs especially guys who do ASOP will be able to free a chunk of that space.
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I've been prowling websites, SE's included and I find contradictions on the amount of memory - internally and the amount of the internal storage (not microSD) in the X10.
Most sites seem to suggest that there is 1GB of RAM memory. The OS/Firmware takes up 384-400mb ROM.
There are sellers who say that the X10 has 8 or 16GB of internal storage. There are others that say it's only 2GB. I think that a lot of sites are confusing the microSD with internal storage. Rogers site seems to suggest 8GB internal storage and ATT says 2GB.
The Samsung Galaxy S seems to come with 16GB storage and a 8GB card at ATT.
The X10 they are selling seems to be with 2GB storage and 2GB sd card. (SonyStyle is selling the X10 with a 8GB card incl.)
Could someone clarify this? Is it just confusion with the SD card or did ATT order up the X10 with less internal storage than the rest of the world, guarantee that 'geeks' wouldn't be as interested....
From what I've seen they're all the exact same hardware wise, and the internal memory is the same. Was supposedly 1gb internal memory in the phone, but not sure if it's actually true, or if 1.6 limits available system ram.
The x10 from Rogers in Canada comes with 16GB card installed. (They did a few months ago anyway)
1GB ROM (internal mem)
384MB RAM (used when phone is on for programs and tasks)
"practically" unlimited Storage (mem card)
yetep said:
1GB ROM (internal mem)
384MB RAM (used when phone is on for programs and tasks)
"practically" unlimited Storage (mem card)
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I don't understand the 'practically unlimited' part. Isn't one of the reasons that people want Eclair/Froyo the ability to store apps on the memory card rather than the internal memory? And the better message auto-management?
stan.s said:
I don't understand the 'practically unlimited' part. Isn't one of the reasons that people want Eclair/Froyo the ability to store apps on the memory card rather than the internal memory? And the better message auto-management?
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"practically" unlimited storage was regarding size of memory card you can use in your device, which as of now can be max. 32 GB.
That´s 3rd point..first is internal memory (ROM), second is operating memory (RAM) and finally third is external memory (MicroSD card)
So I noticed it says this phone has 16gb of memory, but when I look at the phone storage it says 9.75gb total and internal store 2gb. Is this another memory thing like the desire z / g2 having 4gb of memory but only 1.5gb user accessible?
Same here.
yep it is blocked off to OS and stuff
mine say the same. not sure how they keep getting away with this.
Theoretically it's 16... Then they partition for the OS and read only files. All storage devices are the same way.
They could have advertised 10 gb and be a little more realistic
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
GameSlim said:
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Partitions for user apps and data (2GB), for the system, a partition that the games hub uses, other partitions for cache, etc.
Its all there, just used by other parts of the phone. There are more threads that go into more detail if you search.
And before you ask, no you cant reparation to reclaim space.
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In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Well, it's all right there in your phone.
First you start with the fact that they use decimal, not octal numeral system for GB. That means that 16.000.000 bytes is actually around 14.8 GB, the same thing happens when you buy hard disk which, lets say, has capacity of 250 GB, and actually you have 232 GB of hard drive space.
Next, 2GB is reserved for installing application, about 1 GB for system, caches and similar things. In the end you are left with about 11GB free space in internal memory.
Hahaha! okay, thanks for the explanation. I kinda thought the same, much like other memory drives, some part are allocated for system usage. But just curious about it.
Now i'm all okay with your answers Thanks!
Actual Usable Storage
GameSlim said:
In the box it says 16GB, but when I check storage capacity in settings, it's only 11.0GB Where the hell did the 5GB go?
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Hi,
I put together a list of the actual usable internal storage of different phones so that we can compare and see which one has how much. This can be found on:
http://icethreads.com/actual-usable-storage-of-mobile-phones/
Let me know if you found it useful!
Regards,
- Harris
the 5gb is for system and format stuff (i think)
I remember there was a method to partition part of the external sd card and use it as extra RAM.
Can anyone explain how to do that with the GS3?
I seriously doubt there is a way to do that. Even if there is, why would you want to!? The SD speed will be horribly slow when compared to the RAM, it'll just not be useful in the slightest.
I don't remember how but you can set up a swap file. It would be better to mount it to internal storage but that is still going to be slower. I screwed around with this quite a bit on my N1 and never was able to get better performance than not using the swap file at all.
This was useful and a major feature in the early device custom rooms G1/Hero etc. There is simply no need for it on the handsets nowadays. It was used due to the limited ram in early Android handsets to cache apps to free up main memory for the running apps. Which up until the N1 the was at Max 128MB of in built ram. You have nowt to worry about with 1/2GB of ram.
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Hey there.
I'm a little confused regarding the internal storage of my VZW Note II. It has 16gb, which I know is less when formatted... there's around 10gb available for apps and files. Isn't that the partition sizing for Samsung's massively bloaty ROM? I'm running AOSP; is there any way to reclaim some of that space? Or I've seen some stuff about dual-booting, but there are way too many disparate GNoteII forums on XDA and I can't find any specific font of information. Is that a way to more efficiently use space? I'm just consistently crunched for space since nothing can use the external SD really, and 10gb goes away quickly nowadays.
Thank you kindly.
I would like to know the same thing. Just flashed and rom and set everything and now I only have about 700MB free space. I don't even run lots of apps. It's the miscellaneous that takes up majority of the space.
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tee00max said:
I would like to know the same thing. Just flashed and rom and set everything and now I only have about 700MB free space. I don't even run lots of apps. It's the miscellaneous that takes up majority of the space.
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Thats 700mb freespace for the system partition which is plenty...apps reside on the internal sd which you should have 10-12gb free.
droidstyle said:
Thats 700mb freespace for the system partition which is plenty...apps reside on the internal sd which you should have 10-12gb free.
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Exactly. That's 700mb to /system, then the rest goes to app storage and the emulated internal SD card. My phone reports that at 10.33gb total; 10.33gb + 700mb = 11.03gb total known storage across all known partitions. Doesn't that seem a little low?
I know my phone has 2gb of ram but what I am speaking of is the 16gb internal SD storage.
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I know my phone has 2gb of ram but what I am speaking of is the 16gb internal SD storage.
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That's what we're speaking of as well. Your phone has 16gb of internal storage which is split across system files and app storage. Any space left over is your "internal SD card". It's how Android works post-Ice Cream Sandwich.
no its not low thats normal...
Well, I know our "16gb" cards are only 14.9gb, marketing considers 1gb = 1,000mb's, but it's really 1024 mb's. So really if you do the math, 16gb by marketing definition equals 14.9gb in reality (16*1,000^3/1,024^3). That explains 1gb at least.
I'd imagine the rest is the baseband and radio software, all that? Is the touchwiz framework always left on the phone even after a full internal format?
How much available space does a "16gb" Nexus 4 have on first boot?
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no its not low thats normal...
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Ah. I did not realize that the RAM was part of that 16gb as well, I thought it was dedicated. That explains it. Thanks
ieAnd said:
Ah. I did not realize that the RAM was part of that 16gb as well, I thought it was dedicated. That explains it. Thanks
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Where'd you see that?
Well according to the email notification I got from XDA, droidstyle's response was:
"no its not low thats normal... The rom is 2gb + 2gb of ram + all of the apps leaves arouns 11gb free."
then when I went to reply that second part wasn't there anymore? But I assume droidstyle is right? 14.9 - 2.0 - 2.0 = 10.9, so... closer?
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Well according to the email notification I got from XDA, droidstyle's response was:
"no its not low thats normal... The rom is 2gb + 2gb of ram + all of the apps leaves arouns 11gb free."
then when I went to reply that second part wasn't there anymore? But I assume droidstyle is right? 14.9 - 2.0 - 2.0 = 10.9, so... closer?
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yea i edited that because I was not sure that was 100% correct...which I do not think it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21573600&postcount=3
It seems weird, but I think you're right. It's not only the most logical and mathematically accurate solution, but thinking back on it I believe that's how my poor old Galaxy Nexus functioned as well, it was just far less noticeable since the Gnex had 32gb of memory and only took 1gb of RAM, vs. 16 - 2.
ieAnd said:
It seems weird, but I think you're right. It's not only the most logical and mathematically accurate solution, but thinking back on it I believe that's how my poor old Galaxy Nexus functioned as well, it was just far less noticeable since the Gnex had 32gb of memory and only took 1gb of RAM, vs. 16 - 2.
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just add a sd card
I have 16+64.
droidstyle said:
just add a sd card
I have 16+64.
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This definitely solves the problem
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I have a 32 ultra SD, so I'm pretty set. Currently I have 4.9 GB available on the internal drive. I like to keep a clean drive. If you download music, most if not all will go to the internal. I've looked for mp3 apps that direct the DL's to the ext.SD, but have only found one, and that one didn't work. I believe cache goes on the internal too. Every time you download a ROM like meanbean, liquid smooth, they place a folder on the internal drive. They're empty, but they take up space.
I think the ram is part of the internal.
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Oh I have a 32gb Class-10 µSD card in my phone right now. The problem I'm facing is that any sort of app storage can't be moved to external SD... I have one or two pretty massive games and a lot of apps that love to cache reserves of data, and it adds up. I only have about 1.2 gb free storage after clearing all caches, without really any other files to speak of besides a few pictures. Oh well, I can deal. I was just spoiled with storage on the GNex.