Guys... I just wanna know the reason behind the OC mechanism of P500 that does not allow it to OC beyond 729 MHz in stable form. .
Whereas the GT-540 with same CPU gets easily OC to 900 MHz.
Please somebody reply to this..
rjtchn15 said:
Guys... I just wanna know the reason behind the OC mechanism of P500 that does not allow it to OC beyond 729 MHz in stable form. .
Whereas the GT-540 with same CPU gets easily OC to 900 MHz.
Please somebody reply to this..
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Because the HW (chip) is not rated to run at such frequency. If you are lucky, you will be stable @806MHz or whatnot. If you are not and got the less perfect silicon, they you will crash even @ 729. Nothing above the stock frequency is guaranteed.
(Been explained number of times here.)
doktornotor said:
Because the HW (chip) is not rated to run at such frequency. If you are lucky, you will be stable @806MHz or whatnot. If you are not and got the less perfect silicon, they you will crash even @ 729. Nothing above the stock frequency is guaranteed.
(Been explained number of times here.)
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Yep, it actually depends on the device itself.
Gt540 at 900 MHz have you looked at our forum on m6 we can't get past 806 stable oc some of us 844 tops anything past that unstable plus crashing constantly we all want the Max but its hard to achieve better to focus on swap ram io speed stability
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doktornotor said:
Because the HW (chip) is not rated to run at such frequency. If you are lucky, you will be stable @806MHz or whatnot. If you are not and got the less perfect silicon, they you will crash even @ 729. Nothing above the stock frequency is guaranteed.
(Been explained number of times here.)
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Lol!! Hahaha
He is just wanting to have more 10 post..
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I'm running stable at 787. Had a few crashes but I think it was the ROM because I reflashed and no problems since then.
i think it also depend of the kernel becuas with the first kernel there was for our phone i could go to 748 witho no problem then with matt kernel only to 729 above tha eventuality the phone crash with franco i could go to 768 but sometimes crash,so could be hw yes but the kernel also help and have a big part in oc...
thats what i think
sorry for the english
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I tried asking this in the Megatron-thread but as usual, no answers...
I am a little worried about keeping my phone overclocked at all times, so I was thinking about downloading SetCPU and switching between 600 and 700 via that app. But my question is this: Megatron ROM overclocks the phone by default. If I download a 3rd-party app to overclock/underclock the phone, will this mess up the whole system?
Anyone? Would really appreciate help!
i've been using megatron & setcpu together for the past month.. no issues yet, so cant promise ma phone wont go up in flames i clock extra if needed
Ok, thanks!
My Experience: USing LOL rom with default OC gave me kernel panics ...so instead i disabled OC in ROm and wud then OC using SetCPu...ALso I dont know why but touch feels a lot more smoother on LOL rom with the lag fix than megatron....so i switched from megatron to LOL...Currently even with maxCPu 480Mhz and conservative profile..touch is very smooth on LOL
sarfaraz1989 said:
My Experience: USing LOL rom with default OC gave me kernel panics ...so instead i disabled OC in ROm and wud then OC using SetCPu...ALso I dont know why but touch feels a lot more smoother on LOL rom with the lag fix than megatron....so i switched from megatron to LOL...Currently even with maxCPu 480Mhz and conservative profile..touch is very smooth on LOL
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How do I disable the OC in Megatron? By adding the "minitron" file and then using SetCPU?
Hi all,
I'm a newbie in Android world. Successfully flashed my O1 to Megatron v1. Afterwhich I tried installing SetCPU to it and overclock to 806mhz & above. However, after overclocking with SetCPU, the whole phone's performance became more sluggish than the original Megatron 729mhz...
Someone please advise me on how to overcome this and make the phone speedier with high frequency.
Is there a way to edit some of Megatron's kernel to make it 806mhz on default even without using SetCPU?
Don't use set on boot feature, it will make ur phone get stock on bootloop...
So can someone tell me how to proceed with this? I want to be able to change between 600 and 700, when I please. Thanks
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Don't use set on boot feature, it will make ur phone get stock on bootloop...
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Got it! Tried last night without set on boot feature. Working fine with 806mhz and speedier than 729mhz. However my chipset refuses to go into higher frequency without freezing and rebooting... Is it due to my microsd card? I'm still using the original 2gb microsd card tt came together with the O1... Will changing to a class 6 or higher microsd card let me clock higher? or my chipset is just lemon at 806mhz?
FnH84 said:
So can someone tell me how to proceed with this? I want to be able to change between 600 and 700, when I please. Thanks
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FnH84: I downloaded SetCPU from XDA forum and can tweak the frequency between 600 & 700 by myself. Even can set profiles to govern the speed at different situations.
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However my chipset refuses to go into higher frequency without freezing and rebooting... Is it due to my microsd card?
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You are already pushing the CPU to its limit with that 806 MHz frequency. Do you even realize is 34% above the designed specs for this CPU? You're already lucky enough you got it stable at 806, and no SD card will ever make a difference, they're not related.
How come Samsung Galaxy Mini running on the same chipset offer 800Mhz as stock???
Man, I don't know! How come the same "Pentium IV" processor could come in speeds from 1.3 GHz to 3.8 GHz?
Can any of you actually believe that LG would underclock an 800 MHz CPU and sell it to us as a 600 MHz instead of letting it run at its best?
Galaxy Mini is obviously using a CPU designed to run at 800 MHz, even though it bears the same name. And that one can probably be overclocked to above 1 GHz.
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You are already pushing the CPU to its limit with that 806 MHz frequency. Do you even realize is 34% above the designed specs for this CPU? You're already lucky enough you got it stable at 806, and no SD card will ever make a difference, they're not related.
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Thanks for your reply. I was thinking bout the same as the other guy, that galaxy ace can run at 800mhz, and why not O1.
Hmm... Isn't there any other ways to push the frequency higher? Maybe supply more voltage to the core? I dont mind sacrificing batt life, I just wanna try ways to push it to the max~~
www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/06/01/qualcomm-adobe-optimize-flash-for-snapdragon-powered-android-phones/
Saw this article today that indicates qualcomm is working with adobe to bring flash to the msm7x27 chipset.
Awesome
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Nice....
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Pretty interesting news
but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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Overclocking may be a solution?
These are really great news. I hope we will get flash as soon as possible. Let's see how these things will go.
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Sounds like it may be hardware accelerated. Hopefully it is because my nook with an a8 CPU at 1.2ghz has issues playing 480p flash videos without hardware acceleration. Would imagine my optimus overclocked at 806mhz would have issues with 360p flash videos without hardware acceleration.
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
Jaani said:
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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Well, sometime you can get 800MHz. But overclocking is strange device dependent. So, somebody have 768 very stable you, but somebody can have 800 and somebody have some problems also on 710 like me for example.
I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
Good news people let's wait and see...
Nice! I have been waiting for this from long time ago.
/W
GolfnWrx said:
I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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it is possible but for most peoples ROM anything past 787 will give a kernel error and reboot the phone the only ROMi got it to work on was Megatron ROM
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On Spica Max Neocore output was 7 fps and on o1 its 63 fps currently.
Even than I could play games like ninjump and mx moto.
So what difference would be there in performance even if we can clock till 768-787 and not 806.
Will the flash not run because our clock speed is 787 and not 800?
I hope people are getting what I am asking. When our o1 can handle things like Neocore 63 fps, 1gb ext partition, multi format video playback, then why would it be difficult to run flash on 787 instead of 800 even when flash would be optimized for our kind of processors?
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Awesome news. Hope we get it soon.
More or less flash should work on or device even at 600mhz, the real issue is to optimize it for our chip set instructions.
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I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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I hope so i wonder if our Froyo(O1lg) kernel source varies greatly with Ace's kernel code ...SoC chipset is the same msm7227 for other devices code wud vary but the vga and other arm(assembly) code must be the same..If any kernel developers cud please look into it
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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Exactly. And even if there was a way to run flash on O1, I wouldn't bother with it myself. It would only slow down the phone and kill the battery life in two seconds.. I really, really don't understand what the big deal about this is. Low-budget phone, no flash. End of discussion lol.
Hello, I keep getting random reboots on my HTC Legend. I don't think the problem is related to the rom because I tried many of them and still the same problem. I've read that it may be related to the radio version but I don't know which version should I upgrade to
ROM: CyanogenMod 7.1.0
Baseband Version: 47.26.35.04U_7.05.35.26L
Did u OC's the CPU? Maybe your frequencies are too high?
Try with a lower one.
Thanks for the reply, yes, i did try lower the Frequencies but still have the same problem
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Thanks for the reply, yes, i did try lower the Frequencies but still have the same problem
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What frequencies are you using?
have you tried to change governor?
Currently using 787 max. and 400 min. and the governor is set onDemand
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Currently using 787 max. and 400 min. and the governor is set onDemand
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It could also depend on the Kernel installed, but for a 600 MHz processor, 787mhz seems definitely too high for me. My friend has the same CPU in his ZTE Blade and he cannot OC more than 650mhz (obviously also depends on hardware).
What I suggest, is to OC's just a little above the normal value 600mhz (ex. 633/650mhz), and increase little by little the clock to find out at which freq. your phone start to experience spontaneous reboot.
I would also try the "smartass" governor with a min freq between 19/176 mhz.
Let me know.
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for a 600 MHz processor, 787mhz seems definitely too high for me.
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Some devices (with 600mhz processors) can be overclocked to 864mhz (e.g. HTC Aria; but is overall stable at 806mhz).
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Some devices (with 600mhz processors) can be overclocked to 864mhz (e.g. HTC Aria; but is overall stable at 806mhz).
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I am agree. My Hero can be overclocked up to 749mhz (525mhz default) , but at this OC suffer from spontanious reboot. The max freq. I can reach is 710mhz without problems.
This is why I said it depends on devices and hardware.
Probably 787mhz is too much for his phone.
Hi, I'm using ICS Final Sunday, which is stable at high OC without tweeks, but when I put a higher frequency than 864 MHz, the phone reboot almost automatic, it's happening with anyone?
u seriously need to read more about cpu unique characteristic and about overclock
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Hi, I'm using ICS Final Sunday, which is stable at high OC without tweeks, but when I put a higher frequency than 864 MHz, the phone reboot almost automatic, it's happening with anyone?
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Theres nothing wrong with that...OC stable frequencies vary from phone to phone
after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.4ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
Every CPU is different, some can handle 1.4, some can 1.6 and some can't even 1.3GHz.
I've been using 1.4GHz max and 400GHz min, and I get about 4700 in Quadrant, and I reduced homebutton lag to minimum. Some can't see difference between 1.4 and 1.2 and some can (like me). Works just fine.
emoskremo said:
after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.4ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
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well overclocking or undervolting ur device is not recomended for daily usage as they r done only to do some benchmark tests
emoskremo said:
after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.4ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
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The higher the min frequency is the higher the chance something will go wrong.. Ie overheat, reboots
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emoskremo said:
after root... i have installed SetCpu, i have overclock my processor to 1.4ghz.. the question is, can i use this setting for daily use? is it will cause my processor hot or damage??
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1.4 will be fine ;-)
I've overclocked all my previous androids & never had issue
OT: I was surprised that a stock 1.2Ghz ph can't go higher than 1.6!?
my moto defy is b/l locked 800Mhz @ stock & I run it @ 1.2Ghz w/o probs. 50% increase... SGS-II should be able to do 1.8Ghz on that math