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Or maybe it did, but not the way I expected.
So, I've had my Vibrant for about 4 days. Day 1, I rooted it and installed Titanium Backup, which I used to delete a bunch of Bloatware.
Today, I decided to try something different, and wanted to totally wipe the phone clean, restored back to "out of the box" condition. So, I did a Factory Data Reset, via Menu>Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset. First I tried the Power Button/Volumn Buttons, but that wouldn't work for me.
Anyway, I finished with the Factory Data Reset and noticed that all of my Market Apps are gone, including Titanium Backup. Funny thing is, I believe the phone is still Rooted, because I still have the Superuser Permission icon. However, none of the Bloatware that I'd deleted, is back on the phone. Of course, since I deleted Titanium Backup, with the reset, I can't access my Titanium Backup that I'd made...lol.
I still want to reset this phone to "out of box" condition, but can't figure out how. I want to delete EVERYTHING, including contacts, music on SD card, and I want everything reinstalled, that came with the phone. At that point, I'm going to do more research, before deleting bloatware. I don't even care if I lose my "ROOT." If needed, I can re-root it.
So, is it possible, to get this phone back to factory condition? First off, this is my first Android and I'm completely an idiot, when it comes to androids...lol. I have no idea what SDK, ADB, or any of those other initials mean, or how to use them. So, unfortunately, I'm going to need to be able to read very detailed, step by step, idiot like, instructions.
Okay, I hope what I just did wasn't an even bigger mistake...lol.
After reading through a couple of threads, I found and tried this hidden code.
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That's the one!! Also, there is a thread that tells you what bloatware apps are safe to remove, after you do a back-up, search for that thread and read through it.
On a side note, if you're still learning or never used odin to flash a rom before; there is also a hidden code that is used for factory format. It'll remove all files and settings including the internal memory storage and reformats it. It'll also reinstall the phone firmware from when you took it out of the box. Just go to your dialer and put *2767*3855# and it will perform the factory format for you.
Hope this helps.
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Nope, didn't make any difference. Seemed to do the same thing as a Factory Data Reset.
So, now I'll await advice...lol.
Far as I know a factory reset won't restore deleted system .apk's which is what you did by removing the bloatware. Only way is to either restore the .apk's you deleted from a backup manually in which you need root to do this, or via complete restore with ODIN and the tarball. If you don't know what either of this means then I would suggest you read a little more on the forum so you don't wind up with a paperweight. Titanium Backup is great at removing the bloatware but it's not meant to restore rom .apk's which is why they don't get backed up (for safety's sake). It'll backup their settings however. Good luck.
returnofsid said:
Or maybe it did, but not the way I expected.
So, I've had my Vibrant for about 4 days. Day 1, I rooted it and installed Titanium Backup, which I used to delete a bunch of Bloatware.
Today, I decided to try something different, and wanted to totally wipe the phone clean, restored back to "out of the box" condition. So, I did a Factory Data Reset, via Menu>Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset. First I tried the Power Button/Volumn Buttons, but that wouldn't work for me.
Anyway, I finished with the Factory Data Reset and noticed that all of my Market Apps are gone, including Titanium Backup. Funny thing is, I believe the phone is still Rooted, because I still have the Superuser Permission icon. However, none of the Bloatware that I'd deleted, is back on the phone. Of course, since I deleted Titanium Backup, with the reset, I can't access my Titanium Backup that I'd made...lol.
I still want to reset this phone to "out of box" condition, but can't figure out how. I want to delete EVERYTHING, including contacts, music on SD card, and I want everything reinstalled, that came with the phone. At that point, I'm going to do more research, before deleting bloatware. I don't even care if I lose my "ROOT." If needed, I can re-root it.
So, is it possible, to get this phone back to factory condition? First off, this is my first Android and I'm completely an idiot, when it comes to androids...lol. I have no idea what SDK, ADB, or any of those other initials mean, or how to use them. So, unfortunately, I'm going to need to be able to read very detailed, step by step, idiot like, instructions.
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did you make a nandroid backup of your system before you made changes.
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Far as I know a factory reset won't restore deleted system .apk's which is what you did by removing the bloatware. Only way is to either restore the .apk's you deleted from a backup manually in which you need root to do this, or via complete restore with ODIN and the tarball. If you don't know what either of this means then I would suggest you read a little more on the forum so you don't wind up with a paperweight. Titanium Backup is great at removing the bloatware but it's not meant to restore rom .apk's which is why they don't get backed up (for safety's sake). It'll backup their settings however. Good luck.
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Okay, so it sounds like I need to learn how to use ODIN and "tarball?" Not only do I NOT know how to use either, I don't even know what they are! lol. Can anyone point me to a good, idiot proof guide on both of these programs?
Another possible option, maybe. My girlfriend also has a Vibrant, we purchased both at the same time. At this point, her Vibrant is totally "out of box" original. Is there a way that this could help me? Would it be possible to do a Nandroid back up of her phone, and use that back up to restore my phone?
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did you make a nandroid backup of your system before you made changes.
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At the time, I hadn't even heard of Nandroid, so no. I figured the Titanium Backup would do what I needed. Unfortunately, I was wrong. Since then, I've heard of Nandroid, but that's about it.
Okay, so I called my local T-Mo store and spoke with a salesman about this issue. Believe it or not, he actually recommended that I call Customer Support and get a warranty replacement, telling them that my volumn buttons aren't working. Honestly, I don't feel right doing this and would like to fix it on my own, errrr, with lots of help from here...lol. The bonus of fixing it myself would be that I'd also be learning how!! As I said, I know next to nothing about Android phones, so would like to learn.
At this point, I want the phone totally back to factory settings, and then I plan to do a lot more research, before making any changes.
Oh and in case it needs to be mentioned again, my phone is still Rooted.
if you download clockwork there are recoveries that will take you back to factory default. if you look in the devs part of the vibrant forum. then look in the Vibrant directory. there are stock backups in there.
did you install any roms? like eugenes or what ever after you rooted?
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if you download clockwork there are recoveries that will take you back to factory default. if you look in the devs part of the vibrant forum. then look in the Vibrant directory. there are stock backups in there.
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Okay, so Rom Manager includes Clockwork right? I have installed Rom Manager. In the Market, I see Clockwork, but it doesn't look like a US version, as the price isn't in $s.
As for a stock back up, couldn't I just back up my girlfriend's Vibrant, which is in stock condition, and use that back up, to restore my phone? If so, what steps would I need to take, to do so?
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did you install any roms? like eugenes or what ever after you rooted?
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No, I wouldn't even know where to begin, in installing different ROMS...lol.
in vibrant general if you go to tips and tricks you can download the app there. it will tell you step by step what to do. so download it on the good vibrant and make the backup. then download the app on the bad one. take the backup from the good one and put it on the bad ones internal sd card. follow the steps to restore the backup. this may fix your problem
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in vibrant general if you go to tips and tricks you can download the app there. it will tell you step by step what to do. so download it on the good vibrant and make the backup. then download the app on the bad one. take the backup from the good one and put it on the bad ones internal sd card. follow the steps to restore the backup. this may fix your problem
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Ummm, in your quote, I made something bold. Which "the app" are you referring to?
Also, once I've made a backup of the "GOOD" Vibrant, how do I move that Good Backup to the internal SD Card of the "BAD" Vibrant?
this is for the app.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management instructions are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Vibrant as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
To transfer the recovery over transfer it to the external sd card of the good unit. then take that card and put it in the bad unit. then transfer it to the internal sd card.
I've been stuck in a weird place for some time with my phone. After I installed clockwork mod, backed up, installed some flavour of FroYo, and made the mistake of trying to flash back my old back up without properly wiping things have been getting weird. I can use ODIN to flash fresh ROMs, but I always get a bunch of FCs at startup, and most apps don't work. I tried to do all kinds of tricks to completely wipe the internal SD, but there is always some remnants of old fun hanging about causing cascading errors and FCs. No matter what I try to do, MyBackupPro and Rommanager is always present, but not working.
How I can completely rid myself of anything not stock ROM?
I've finally gotten back to root ADB, after a long and hard battle. I believe this may hold the key to salvation for my Vibrant.
Any and all suggestions are much appreciated!
Things I've already tried:
EUGENE373_SamsungS_Froyo_PDA -> Stock 2.1 T959UVJFD
EUGENE373_SamsungS_Froyo_PDA -> battery pull -> Stock 2.1 T959UVJFD
Stock 2.1 T959UVJFD -> EUGENE373_SamsungS_Froyo_PDA
Bionix1.9.zip - would not install due to some error I can't recall right now. Will update.
Factory wipe - from Settings menu
Wipe in Clockworkmod menu
Wipe all in adb shell
The weird *2767*3855#* factory wipe
UPDATE:
Strangest thing happened: I flashed an old ROM back onto the phone with Odin 1.52, then the Updated Stock 2.1 also via Odin the usual FC-ing was still there. Then I rebooted into recovery, reinstalled the Clockworkmod recovery menu, installed the root-update.zip in order to have root shell access. Then I pushed VibrantDeodexed1_2.zip and Vibrantfroyo_R3.zip on to the sd card. I tried to apply the VibrantDeodexed1_2.zip, but it aborted due to some catalog not present. However, I did notice that the installation erased /system and deleted some files, and I had the notion to try and install the VibrantFroyo_R3.zip. The installation succeeded, and Lo and Behold!
the phone has returned to the land of the living! Wohoo!!
I do not fully understand how this can be, but there is no Force Closing of programs any longer. What a relief!
Thanks to everybody who contributed ideas!
If you're having problems, back up whatever data you want to keep to your computer. Go download eugenes 2.2 that doesn't brick. Flash that, do a battery pull once it's done (don't reboot). Then go get a stock eclair file, flash that with odin and check repartition. This solved every problem I had from flashing way too many roms.
Yea, when in doubt I thank the deities for Eugene and flash his "Froyo that doesn't brick" followed by the stock JFD firmware.
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If you're having problems, back up whatever data you want to keep to your computer. Go download eugenes 2.2 that doesn't brick. Flash that, do a battery pull once it's done (don't reboot). Then go get a stock eclair file, flash that with odin and check repartition. This solved every problem I had from flashing way too many roms.
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Sorry to say, that trying this solved nothing. Just the same as before.
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Sorry to say, that trying this solved nothing. Just the same as before.
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You clicked the "repartition" option? That should format your internal sd...
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You clicked the "repartition" option? That should format your internal sd...
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Yeah, that's the weird part.. It doesn't really delete anything. Files are still there, and so are the un-wanted system files, too.
Does anyone know if I can manually partition the sdcard?
Had a similar issue, and couldn't fully erase my files. Figured out how to completely erase everything, before you proceed, backup your files and be ready to Odin. In rom manager, enable advanced mode in settings, then use the flash alternate recovery option. That set my current cwm version to 2.5.1.2, now when I reboot to cwm i have a menu that says something similar to "sd and storage" and within that menu are options to completely format all of the internal storage. Be careful in there, you can delete everything, incl the sd ext, but I think this is what you are looking for.
Edited - I rebooted and checked the menus, mounts and storage in cwm is what you are looking for after flashing the alternate recovery, I can confirm this removes remnants that an Odin repartition or factory format still leaves behind, let me reiterate, backup your personal files, cause this does remove everything
After formatting, Odin away
Sent from my T959 running Bionix1.91 with Jacs OC/UV and Voodoo
same thing happened to me >.> I just formatted the SD card on the phone. then flashed whatever rom I wanted.
Br1cK'd said:
Had a similar issue, and couldn't fully erase my files. Figured out how to completely erase everything, before you proceed, backup your files and be ready to Odin. In rom manager, enable advanced mode in settings, then use the flash alternate recovery option. That set my current cwm version to 2.5.1.2, now when I reboot to cwm i have a menu that says something similar to "sd and storage" and within that menu are options to completely format all of the internal storage. Be careful in there, you can delete everything, incl the sd ext, but I think this is what you are looking for.
Edited - I rebooted and checked the menus, mounts and storage in cwm is what you are looking for after flashing the alternate recovery, I can confirm this removes remnants that an Odin repartition or factory format still leaves behind, let me reiterate, backup your personal files, cause this does remove everything
After formatting, Odin away
Sent from my T959 running Bionix1.91 with Jacs OC/UV and Voodoo
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When I boot into recovery, I always have to reinstall packages to get to the CWM recovery menu. I tried to clear everything from the mounts and storage submenu; I cleared system, cache and data, then flashed stock eclair. STILL the same applications and files sit on the internal SD.
When performing the wiping, all looks normal. It does take a little time, and the system reports that all is going according to plan, yet no files are deleted.
What can possibly make the phone act this way? Are there no super secret samsung-technician codes that allow me to completely wipe clean the face of the sdcard?
When you get into the storage and mounts menu, I would format everything given what you're experiencing. Format boot, data, system, cache, and sdcard. Dont format the sd ext, thats the physical card. After formatting all of those your phone should be an odin ready blank slate, mine was. Hope this helps.
Sent from my T959 running Bionix1.9 with Jacs OC/UV and Voodoo
this has to be one of the most useful threads. just last night i was messing with rom manager and enabled advanced settings, BEEFORE reading this thread. I've done so much monkeying, but didn't keep a journal or log, so ive got **** from so many hacks and tweaks (mods and themes)...
thanks, im gonna wipe this ****er clean.
Good Info..but moved to Q&A
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When you get into the storage and mounts menu, I would format everything given what you're experiencing. Format boot, data, system, cache, and sdcard. Dont format the sd ext, thats the physical card. After formatting all of those your phone should be an odin ready blank slate, mine was. Hope this helps.
Sent from my T959 running Bionix1.9 with Jacs OC/UV and Voodoo
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This is exactly what I tried yesterday. I'll try it again a few times to see if I can find a way.
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This is exactly what I tried yesterday. I'll try it again a few times to see if I can find a way.
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I was hoping that would help you friend, that process wiped mine clean of all remnants. Good luck in getting her back into a functional state.
After reading som more, contacting Samsung Service, I've decided to send the phone in for service. [sigh]
I've learnt a lot about ADB, pushing and pulling files, rooting, unrooting, swapping ROMS and whatnot. Still, the phone is stuck in that weird place where I cannot delete files.
Hopefully the service team can fix this poor, misguided phone
Noob ? I just downloaded twrp when I go to recovery what should I back up there's so many options I really don't know which one to pick. Should i pick all of them and compress or some and compress .please be specific.
LOL... it depends on what youre trying to do?
Mostly, youre going to use recovery to flash zip files... kernals, roms, tweaks etc mostly come in the form of zips, so you'll see one option to install a zip file....
Another thing to do, is wipe your phone before a flash, again done with recovery...You'll go to the WIPE menu, and wipe cache, dalvik, (do it a few times to be sure) and do a data wipe before flashing ROMs, this will ensure a flawless install
Lastly you use nandroid to "backup" the current state of your phone, you do this BEFORE flashing a rom... its like a failsafe, if something F's up during your flash, you can restore this "nandroid" backup to restore you phone to its exact state prior to your flash...
So, nandroid back ups, restoring, flashing zips, and wiping are your basic uses of recovery
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Noob ? I just downloaded twrp when I go to recovery what should I back up there's so many options I really don't know which one to pick. Should i pick all of them and compress or some and compress .please be specific.
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Stick with the ones that are already "x'd" off. The only option that I'd suggest adding is Wimax. That will back up your wimax partition, which contains your RSA keys, which are essential to 4g working (lose your RSA keys, lose your 4g forever, so it's good to keep them backed up). Compressing the backup is optional. It will save a considerable amount of space if you choose to compress them, however the backups will take quite a bit longer to complete. I made two backups that were not compressed, and saved them to my computer, because they were over 1GB each, which is absurd. I now compress all of my backups, and all seems well.
Thank you soo much you guys helped me out a lot
If you don't mind me asking, what were the original TWRP recovery options that were selected. When I did my first Nand backup after S-off and rooting I selected all the options to be safe. Then when I went to go make another back up everything was still selected and I know I do not need all those options. Thanks.
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If you don't mind me asking, what were the original TWRP recovery options that were selected. When I did my first Nand backup after S-off and rooting I selected all the options to be safe. Then when I went to go make another back up everything was still selected and I know I do not need all those options. Thanks.
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To answer your question If I'm correct from top to bottom the first two and also include the Wimax and the compress files .so that's four X's.that's what I have
I did a Nand backup having the first 3 and then Wimax and then when I tried to flash to that backup my phone went black and shut off (thought it had bricked on me) was able to get it to reboot by doing volume down + power button. Am I missing something? Or am I just being dumb when it comes to flashing from a Nand backup?
Are you still having problems with the nand back ups pdawg
So we should wipe data to factory settings before doing the back?
Also, where does titanium backup come into play?
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I haven't had time to try it again yet. Though later tonight I will try again when I flash viper rom 1.3
I checked everything under the sun in nandroid menu, so when I go to nandroid options then restore i choose the one I want to restore, it flashes then when I reboot it just sits on the HTC EVO screnn forever! almost 20 min so far. is anybody else having this issue? am I doing something wrong? I did pull the battery once and rebooted but still nothing. I backed up a couple of nice set ups I would like to have back. any ideas would be great
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So we should wipe data to factory settings before doing the back?
Also, where does titanium backup come into play?
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To answer your question about Titanium. This app will back up all your apps--apps only, not your entire system.
This is useful when you flash a new rom because that new rom will not include all the apps you had (obviously). Instead of fishing for each one in the market, simply re-download Titanium and use it to restore your apps (and data if you like). I really don't use Tatanium as much as I used to. This is because I don't download a crapload of apps and when I install a new rom it doesn't take me very long to re-download the ones I like from the market.
BUT, if you have an app that you can't get through the market, then Titanium is vital to restoring it.
Hope this helps.
Hello, I always find the people on this corner of xda very helpful. As usual, I think I know what I'm doing, but I'd like to check that I am proceeding in the right direction.
I've been using Mik's Cyanogen ROMs on my Optimus One. That's going well. But I need to SIM unlock my phone and I need to go back to a stock ROM to input the codes (please let me know if this is incorrect).
Before installing Mik's ROM, I performed a Nand backup. I have boot, cache, data, recovery and system img files. I think I can flash these through recovery and I should be back to stock.
Do I lose my apps and settings by doing this? Do I need to clear any caches?
What about returning to Cyanogen after I unlock my phone... Do I have to root my phone again or will I still be able to flash using recovery?
Using Clockwork, I just backed up my current ROM. I assume I will be able to restore from this later.
Is there anything else I should be aware of?
Thanks for answering my questions / clearing up my confusion.
Hello, I always find the people on this corner of xda very helpful. As usual, I think I know what I'm doing, but I'd like to check that I am proceeding in the right direction.
I've been using Mik's Cyanogen ROMs on my Optimus One. That's going well. But I need to SIM unlock my phone and I need to go back to a stock ROM to input the codes (please let me know if this is incorrect).
this is correct
Before installing Mik's ROM, I performed a Nand backup. I have boot, cache, data, recovery and system img files. I think I can flash these through recovery and I should be back to stock.
Do I lose my apps and settings by doing this? Do I need to clear any caches?
to revert back to stock, you must wipe data/factory reset, cache, and dalvik cache. you will lose your settings. as for your apps, you can back them up with titanium backup and restore them after you have restored your backup.
What about returning to Cyanogen after I unlock my phone... Do I have to root my phone again or will I still be able to flash using recovery?
when you restore your backup of the stock rom, you will still have root. i dont think unlocking your phone will cause you to lose root. your root access and custom recovery will still be intact
Using Clockwork, I just backed up my current ROM. I assume I will be able to restore from this later.
yes this is true
Is there anything else I should be aware of?
just to be on the safe side, please list the steps you are going to follow
Thanks for answering my questions / clearing up my confusion.
Thanks for the quick answer...
I on my sd card, I have a /clockwork directory with two subdirs. One is my original backup that I made before first installing Cyanogen. The other is the one I just made. Both contain boot, cache, data, recovery and system img files. The difference is that with my new backup the image files have an extra yaffs2 suffix: cache.img (stock) but cache.yaffs2.img (Cyanogen). Any problem here?
1. boot into recovery
2. restore stock from my sdcard using nandroid and wipe caches as you indicated
3. reboot, enter unlock code
4. reboot into recovery
5. restore current ROM from my sdcard using nandroid and again wipe the same caches
6. reinstall / restore apps (I'm not using Titanium, instead I backed up the list of installed apps)
Will I need to find and reinstall the GoogleApps (Market, etc) or will they come with the backup of my current ROM?
Pretty simple really. This make sense?
Thanks for the quick answer...
I on my sd card, I have a /clockwork directory with two subdirs. One is my original backup that I made before first installing Cyanogen. The other is the one I just made. Both contain boot, cache, data, recovery and system img files. The difference is that with my new backup the image files have an extra yaffs2 suffix: cache.img (stock) but cache.yaffs2.img (Cyanogen). Any problem here?
there might be a problem. what clockworkmod version did you use to make the backup of the stock rom? if i remember correctly, using cwm 3.x.x.x backs up a certain way (and also does not have the yaffs2 suffix) and using cwm 5.x.x.x backs up a different way (with the yaffs2 suffix) so backups may not be "inter"compatible (more info on that here). however, you can just flash back cwm 3.x.x.x right now (you can do it using rom manager), restore your stock rom backup, do the following steps, flash back cwm 5.x.x.x, then restore your backup
1. boot into recovery
2. restore stock from my sdcard using nandroid and wipe caches as you indicated (i recommend wipe first then restore)
3. reboot, enter unlock code
4. reboot into recovery
5. restore current ROM from my sdcard using nandroid and again wipe the same caches
(same here again, wipe first then restore)
6. reinstall / restore apps (I'm not using Titanium, instead I backed up the list of installed apps)
Will I need to find and reinstall the GoogleApps (Market, etc) or will they come with the backup of my current ROM?
i think you will have to flash gapps again
Pretty simple really. This make sense?
looks good (how sure am i? id say 80-90%. it definitely makes sense, but i have never done this before)
Good good. It's getting late so I'll tackle this tomorrow. Thanks for the detailed help... I'm glad I asked before going at it.
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looks good (how sure am i? id say 80-90%. it definitely makes sense, but i have never done this before)
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I followed your instructions (I downgraded Clockwork before starting) and the 10-20% chance of you being wrong came true... but in a good way
Restoring from the backup brings everything back: apps, settings, contacts, SMSs etc. So it was actually even easier than you suggested since I didn't have to use my backups at all.
Thanks again for the tips!
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I followed your instructions (I downgraded Clockwork before starting) and the 10-20% chance of you being wrong came true... but in a good way
Restoring from the backup brings everything back: apps, settings, contacts, SMSs etc. So it was actually even easier than you suggested since I didn't have to use my backups at all.
Thanks again for the tips!
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glad it worked out for you i am assuming your phone is now unlocked right?
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glad it worked out for you i am assuming your phone is now unlocked right?
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Yes... when I was back in stock I could access the unlock menu by entering 2945*#500# on my keypad. The SIM unlock code that I have worked fine. I haven't actually tested with another SIM card but the phone claimed to have been unlocked, so I should be good to go.
Alright, I hope I have this in the right place. I just recently flashed the TerraSilent Kernel for the Galaxy Player 4.0 US version. The Flash went fine, but my device was running extremely slowly. A re-flash didn't solve it either. I figured that wiping the cache partition might solve the problem - I decided to do this before running a backup, since no important data is stored in the cache (...right?), and since I was worried that backing up while I had this problem could make things worse - so I went ahead into CWM and did just that. Then, it reboots, and I nearly get a heart attack. The stock wallpaper is back, it's using the default launcher again (I had LauncherPro installed), and pretty much only system apps work, all the others have an icon with an SD card on it, and when clicked on, it says something like "application not installed". I did some searching, and it seemed like a reboot might help (although I didn't find anyone with a problem like mine anywhere). The reboot didn't do anything, so now I have it shut down, so that nothing can happen. The odd thing is, it doesn't seem to me like the system messed up and did a full wipe instead, either, because a couple of things I have are still there - for example, some of my bookmarks I made on the homescreen while still using the default launcher are still there. I'm really confused because I have wiped the cache partition before, when I was still on an unmodified stock kernel, and everything stayed the same, the way I thought it was supposed to. And now this happens. What do I do now? I exported my absolute most important data (Astrid Tasks and Calendar) before I installed TerraSilent (but I obviously wasn't able to do a full backup because I wasn't rooted, I figured installing TerraSilent would root it), so my absolute most important data is on my computer. I also did a simple file backup of the internal USB storage and external SD card to another computer before flashing TerraSilent. However, there is still a good deal of data still need, and a lot of data that would just be a pain in the rear to recreate, not to mention my (valuable to me) game data. What did I do wrong - or did something in the system mess up? And - what do I do to get back to where I was before?
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
ti-pich said:
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
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Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
trainman261 said:
Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
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It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
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ti-pich said:
It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
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OK, my reply is late, but thanks for your help. I managed to copy the partition with all the deleted contents over to the computer, and I'll have to study the contents some other time, because I've spent about 24+ hours on this problem in total, and need my device for more important purposes - those for which the data I managed to copy before the custom kernel and everything else. For those of you who have a similar issue, this is how I managed to save (or that is I am 95% sure this will have saved at least some, as I said I haven't studied it yet) what I hope is a good chunk of my data.
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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obscuresword said:
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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I've got huge issue with steve's kernel. You can get into recovery, but once you booted in it will simply bootloop. Then you have to flash back with odin. So if you go with steve's kernel, don't boot into recovery. As for klin's kernel, I've never tried it, and will probably never as we have some really nice jellybean rom that I recommend you.
I never got that issue with steve's kernel.
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obscuresword said:
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
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Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
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bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
Code:
bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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hmmm. I'm about to try Terrasilent with my YP-G1 (US version) running 2.3.6. This is giving me second thoughts. Does this kernel still cause issues with SGP 4.0s running GB 2.3.6?? Maybe I should try the old Steves Kernel? I just want to use voodoo sound - thats really the only reason I want to root and get these kernels.