damn..i didnt know i coukd get my phone wed. - HTC EVO 3D

I knew Sprint premier customers could order 3 days early but I Didnt know u could walk unto a Sprint store on Wednesday and actually get it that day..damn now I'm stuck with a Target preorder and have to wait till Friday

That's not what my store said. what is your source?

Its on engadget..the ad says it will give u free shipping if you order online and waive fees ..maybe I'm wrong but that's what it seemed to me

I think may be wrong now that I read it again

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Its on engadget..the ad says it will give u free shipping if you order online and waive fees ..maybe I'm wrong but that's what it seemed to me
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Um....you contradicted yourself.
Online orders and in store orders are not the same thing. you just said you could walk into a store and get one, which you cannot.

I posted that bc it said "if" you order it online..so I thought that meant there was an option..I think i misread it

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$50 Gift card / Sprint

So i walked up to my local sprint store and asked about the pre order process
for the 3D... they guy said, "sure, i can handle that for you. All we ask for is that you pay for a 50$ gift card towards your purchase"..
Is this true? I never had to do this before, and even with my Evo4G.
I simply walked out and told myself to wait till launch day and then walk back in.
Are all Sprint stores doing this? I thought BB was the only one who did the gift card thing.
Thanks.
Yes, they are all doing it that way.
sucks lol.. good to know. wont waste my time now walking into another store.. will wait for launch day.
do you know if over the phone pre orders are any different ?
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sucks lol.. good to know. wont waste my time now walking into another store.. will wait for launch day.
do you know if over the phone pre orders are any different ?
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I don't even know if its even possible to preorder from Sprint online.

Can't get $0.01 through Amazon

Tried to get the a GS2, but I can't due to trying to get a phone back in November when they had a similar deal. In November of 2011, I had ordered a GS2, but realized I would still have an ETF from T-Mobile, so I had the phone shipment turned around. I never received the phone, canceled the Sprint account, and as far as Sprint is concerned, I should be able to get a phone with a new activation, but Amazon's system will not let me. According to the Amazon representative I spoke with, because I had setup a Sprint account through them in the past, I can never again get a Sprint promotion through them. Sprint is the only carrier they have this problem with, and they cannot fix it either. So even if I had not canceled the order the next day, since I had previously setup a Sprint account through Amazon, I'll never be able to partake in any Sprint promotion on Amazon again... EVER! They now have a similar promotion going on right now that I'm unable to take advantage of.
I'm posting this around to various sites in the hopes that someone out there may know of a possible solution, Sprint says there is no way that they can offer me the same deal as Amazon, I'd still have to pay $199 for the phone.
so what is your complaining?
The deal was specific @ Amazon in November 2011, you decided not to get it and now you want it for the price that offered in November of last year?
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so what is your complaining?
The deal was specific @ Amazon in November 2011, you decided not to get it and now you want it for the price that offered in November of last year?
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They have a similar promotion going on right now. Spring 4G phones for $0.01 with no activation fee.
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They have a similar promotion going on right now. Spring 4G phones for $0.01 with no activation fee.
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Oh, didn't know that, my bad, apologize to you.
Honestly, I think they, Amazon, should get you that.
Maybe they still get mad at your return earlier.
Try again and see what happen, maybe you get a nicer CSR.
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Oh, didn't know that, my bad, apologize to you.
Honestly, I think they, Amazon, should get you that.
Maybe they still get mad at your return earlier.
Try again and see what happen, maybe you get a nicer CSR.
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The CSR I spoke to was really nice, she said it was a problem with their system and Sprint. Whenever you order a phone, you have to give it your SSN for credit check, and once a particular SSN has ordered any Sprint phone through Amazon, promotion or not, that same SSN can never, ever get a Sprint phone again through Amazon, and there is currently no way to fix it. All the other carriers simply have a 60 or 90 day wait time between orders, Sprint is the only where it's a one time only thing.

EVOLTE national launch date discussion

I'm an idiot for not preordering
Called sprint to move up my upgrade and I need the evolte to come in at bestbuy before my buy back goes down even more.
Post your launch date rumors here
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I was going to create this thread but didn't know if there were enough of us.
The fact that Sprint has not set a street date yet is scary to think about.I pre ordered on May 7th and have no idea when I will ever see my purchase.I thought for sure it would be in stores by Friday but it seems I may be way off...
Either the new arrivals have to be inspected just like the 1st batch or there is a major shortage on the S4 Chips or its a combination of both.I feel us who pre ordered in Stores not called Best Buy won't see our phones for 2-3 week minimum.
fpineda101 said:
I'm an idiot for not preordering
Called sprint to move up my upgrade and I need the evolte to come in at bestbuy before my buy back goes down even more.
Post your launch date rumors here
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Bestbuy is still taking preorders and you get a $50 giftcard. I just preordered mine about 30 mins ago...
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I got my 3D on launch day and the 280 buy back goes down to 210 on June 24 which won't cover the frigging tax in CA. Hope it's before then, I have to pay Sprint 115 to upgrade early
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So what are your thoughts..im at a loss of words here..How do you go from a national launch date of May 18,putting stupid little memos out to your stores about opening early and having launch parties to a one week delay,sent out pre orders and SCREW any local sprint stores you went to and pre ordered your phone from?
I don't understand and wish we could know more about what is going on instead of being left in the dark.Because as it stands they have my money collecting interest and I have no god damn clue when I will see my purchase.(yes i pre ordered but i paid the full amount)
i went to the sprint store to buy a case and they were all excited to see the phone and the ppl their told me national release is next week. take that with a grain of salt
I'm another one following closely. I even paid 115$ to get my upgrade date pushed up so when I buy this phone I will get it for the upgrade price...Anyway I didn't pre order it because I have the Evo3d and was gonna stay with it because I didn't think it was that much of an upgrade...anyhow I just cracked the screen on my 3d from dropping it...so I figured instead of paying 100$ to get a refurbished Evo3d I midas well just get the lte...So thats what I'm going to do...
So I'm waiting for it to hit the stores..whenever that will be...I see Bestbuy is still taking preorders but what I'm worried about is that the phone will hit the stores before I get my preorder...but I just don't know...I'm not sure if I should just wait for the stores to start selling it or preorder it from best buy..
Any thoughts??
That sucks Brian. I do know there is an impending S4 shortage. The US version of galaxy 3 will have s4 too, rumors are iPhone 5 also
I'd be ecstatic if launch was this weekend or next week
Someone posted a number on the bestbuy thread. It gave me the run around to preorder at stores or online. Online says to call the number or go to a store. Gonna try a store after dinner
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i too am awaiting sprint stores to carry the phone so i can use an upgrade. i was hoping i wouldn't have to wait long
Good venting topic. I could not pre-order from Sprint online because my upgrade elegibility only reset on May 18. I could not pre-order from 3rd parties because I have a SERO plan. Now BestBuy store pre-orders are being filled while the Sprint corporate store where I'm on the Device Waiting List for EVO LTE tells me that maybe they'll have them next week. Should have just pre-ordered at BB and gone through the pain of activating a phone on a SERO line there. I sure hope this merits at least a waived activation fee once the phones are actually available.
I still believe that most of us pre orderers will get the pphone tomorrow ..I did mine at target and they said they will have it tomorrow ..and I'm the only preorder..I'm thinking about my lonely evo all by itself..I wonder where it is right now ..wish I could go save it from her misery
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Good venting topic. I could not pre-order from Sprint online because my upgrade elegibility only reset on May 18. I could not pre-order from 3rd parties because I have a SERO plan. Now BestBuy store pre-orders are being filled while the Sprint corporate store where I'm on the Device Waiting List for EVO LTE tells me that maybe they'll have them next week. Should have just pre-ordered at BB and gone through the pain of activating a phone on a SERO line there. I sure hope this merits at least a waived activation fee once the phones are actually available.
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We are in the same boat my friend..I initially went to Best Buy for my pre order because of the deal they had with the gift cards.After waiting for 30 minutes i remembered i went though this last year with my Evo3D.Im on a really cheap contract(Sero+ Discounts from the OG Evo 4G) I have 2 lines unlimited everything No $10 data premium charge for $95/month..No way Best Buy could keep me on this plan.Last year I had to go to a Sprint Corporate store to Pre Order.
I can only upgrade through a Sprint corporate location because my plan doesn't show up in 3rd party computers...And here we are to this very moment,lost and hoping for some info.I've ruled out this weekend(god its going to be long) and set my eyes to next week...Im not looking for a freebe here or a damn cheeseburger..Just give me a god damn date and be done with it.I think there isn't a date because its going to be a long while(2+ weeks) buts thats just the pessimist in me./Frustration
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I still believe that most of us pre orderers will get the pphone tomorrow ..I did mine at target and they said they will have it tomorrow ..and I'm the only preorder..I'm thinking about my lonely evo all by itself..I wonder where it is right now ..wish I could go save it from her misery
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please PM me if you get it from Target tomorrow...Any bit of info is good..also PM me if you dont get it...If Target freaking gets it before sprint stores something has royally gone crazy.
I feel your pain man. Im going to keep in touch with my corporate store daily... I wish SERO wasnt such a pain in the ads to keep VIA 3rd party...
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I was going to create this thread but didn't know if there were enough of us.
The fact that Sprint has not set a street date yet is scary to think about.I pre ordered on May 7th and have no idea when I will ever see my purchase.I thought for sure it would be in stores by Friday but it seems I may be way off...
Either the new arrivals have to be inspected just like the 1st batch or there is a major shortage on the S4 Chips or its a combination of both.I feel us who pre ordered in Stores not called Best Buy won't see our phones for 2-3 week minimum.
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I've been saying it for a while. But there are more issues out there. The fact that some of these phones cleared customs a week ago and only getting to customer now is crazy. I think the phones are barely trickling in. In fact I know they are.
There is a reason why only enough phones (for half a dozen preorders) are being shipped to every best buy. No extras are being shipped anywhere.
Sprint has dragged their feet with a new launch date because they just don't have the supply. I think they fulfilled the preorders first, then shipped to Best Buy, then shipped to Wirefly, then shipped to Amazon. Now they are probably trying to build some stock for a national launch. But its trickling.
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I've been saying it for a while. But there are more issues out there. The fact that some of these phones cleared customs a week ago and only getting to customer now is crazy. I think the phones are barely trickling in. In fact I know they are.
There is a reason why only enough phones (for half a dozen preorders) are being shipped to every best buy. No extras are being shipped anywhere.
Sprint has dragged their feet with a new launch date because they just don't have the supply. I think they fulfilled the preorders first, then shipped to Best Buy, then shipped to Wirefly, then shipped to Amazon. Now they are probably trying to build some stock for a national launch. But its trickling.
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Thats fine..but trickle that Sh*t to the customers who gave them their $$ in THEIR stores as well..Im sure there weren't many of us...We pre ordered just like the rest of these guys.Why are we the ones to wait..If Best Buy can hand it out in store to their customers we should be treated the same way.
Hello Everyone,
I am buying outright once my local sprint store gets one. My job pays for my simply everything plan but, if I want ownership of the phone, I must buy outright. To have done an upgrade or bought outright through the corporate account, would have been a nightmare with our office. Plus, the phone would have shipped to corporate( in a different state) then would have shipped to me.
Sure hope my local stores can get some soon. Yes I must wait but, it is worth getting free simply everything plan and mobile internet for my laptop that I can use as personal too.
Monnie
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Thats fine..but trickle that Sh*t to the customers who gave them their $$ in THEIR stores as well..Im sure there weren't many of us...We pre ordered just like the rest of these guys.Why are we the ones to wait..If Best Buy can hand it out in store to their customers we should be treated the same way.
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I agree. Seems like Best Buy got preferential treatment. Think about it, they had to get the phones shipped to their distribution centers then shipped to the individual stores and they are handing out the phones the same day online sprint orderers are getting their phones.
None of the logistics of this whole ordeal make any sense. But one would think that Sprint Stores would have higher importance over third party retailers.
I'm beginning to get a little aggravated myself.
I did go to the trouble of preordering but someone at Sprint keyed in the order number wrong for someone else who was canceling and my order got cancelled by mistake. So, I call Sprint and spend about an hour and a half moving up the chain of command only to find out that I'm SOL. The phone is no longer available for preorder nor is it available for regular orders.
I'm thinking "no big deal" since I'll be able to walk into a Sprint store the day after preorders arrive and pick one up but now it's looking like that's not gonna happen. To add insult to injury they've still got my $216 and they're telling me that it will be another 10-15 days before they'll be able to credit it back to my account.
Sheesh!! Come on guys........
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I agree. Seems like Best Buy got preferential treatment. Think about it, they had to get the phones shipped to their distribution centers then shipped to the individual stores and they are handing out the phones the same day online sprint orderers are getting their phones.
None of the logistics of this whole ordeal make any sense. But one would think that Sprint Stores would have higher importance over third party retailers.
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While box sales are important for corp owned stores, they make up a very small % of overall box sales within the company. They are mainly for customer service.
Kisakuku said:
Good venting topic. I could not pre-order from Sprint online because my upgrade elegibility only reset on May 18. I could not pre-order from 3rd parties because I have a SERO plan. Now BestBuy store pre-orders are being filled while the Sprint corporate store where I'm on the Device Waiting List for EVO LTE tells me that maybe they'll have them next week. Should have just pre-ordered at BB and gone through the pain of activating a phone on a SERO line there. I sure hope this merits at least a waived activation fee once the phones are actually available.
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Actually now it's no go for we SERO-P customer to upgrade at BB. I pre-ordered the phone from BB online on the first day, and today they shoot a call telling me that the order could not be processed since I'm on SERO-P. I then called Sprint employee account service and got confirmed that we SERO user can no longer get new phones while keep the plan from 3rd party retailer. Now I'm stuck at nowhere to get the phone except waiting for the official launch date to be announced. Hope this would make you feel better

What to do?

Ordered from best buy the day before att allowed pre orders. Talked to them yesterday and they got phones in but not mine. They said they are getting them in order of when they were ordered and they have already received 100 of them. All I van say is that there is no way I wasn't one of the first 10 people to order, never mind 100.
Anyway now they can't tell me how long until it comes in, said it could be tomorrow or in a month. Shoulld I just order from att now or wait? How long will it take for me to get one from att? I don't know what to do.
Wait a week, if you don't have your phone from BB then grab one in store from AT&T, that or call local shops to see when they get theirs in store, because if you already paid off your pre-order to BB then the refund/reset process wont be pretty.
I call BS on them getting 100 in already. No way. I'd do what the above post said, just wait until Thursday when AT&T is supposed to have them in store. I just placed an order over the phone with AT&T on Friday, but we'll see if it gets here before Thursday. Not sure if it will...
tuffluck said:
Ordered from best buy the day before att allowed pre orders. Talked to them yesterday and they got phones in but not mine. They said they are getting them in order of when they were ordered and they have already received 100 of them. All I van say is that there is no way I wasn't one of the first 10 people to order, never mind 100.
Anyway now they can't tell me how long until it comes in, said it could be tomorrow or in a month. Shoulld I just order from att now or wait? How long will it take for me to get one from att? I don't know what to do.
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There is a guy in the Best Buy thread who can help you. First find out what store# you preordered from (will be on your preorder agreement and/or your receipt) and post in the thread asking if he can look it up for you. He can see how many they have on hand, on order and when they'll arrive. His name is driftr319.
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Wait a week, if you don't have your phone from BB then grab one in store from AT&T, that or call local shops to see when they get theirs in store, because if you already paid off your pre-order to BB then the refund/reset process wont be pretty.
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Pretty much....you can cancel your preorder with them and return your GC for a full refund with no problems, if you so choose. If they give you a hard time, speak to a manager and show them the verbiage on the preorder agreement you have where it states exactly that.
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There is a guy in the Best Buy thread who can help you. First find out what store# you preordered from (will be on your preorder agreement and/or your receipt) and post in the thread asking if he can look it up for you. He can see how many they have on hand, on order and when they'll arrive. His name is driftr319.
Actually, driftr319 profile has been deleted and no one knows why. His posts are gone in that thread.
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Actually, driftr319 profile has been deleted and no one knows why. His posts are gone in that thread.
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Yep, so much for that idea
Word on the street is that the new in-store launch date for AT&T is 6.28.12. I doubt stock levels are gonna be very high so if your intention is on getting one same day I'd suggest you get there as close to opening as you can. Same for Best Buy and other retail locations.
I can look at how many each bby store has and his many they have in order if you pm me with the store number
I would also like to add that bby has ****ty systems that aren't always accurate
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I ordered just last Friday 6/22 and have a delivery date of 7/2 (A week from this Monday) Via Amazon. $150 shipped and no sales tax -
If you dont have a conclusive response by this wednesday I would kill the order and look elsewhere -

I got my Note III... for $7!?

Ok, I don't know what happened exactly today, but technically, I got a Note III for free. Somehow. Lemme explain:
I saw the Verizon30 promo code online last week. I called customer care, and asked them to add it to my pre-order. Un-possible they said...
I was able to get customer care to add a credit to my account for $45, then they would credit me another $45 after my 2-week return period ends (to know I'm locked in to my contract)
I then got my upgrade fee waived with another $30 credit to my account, because before they offered me my $90 credit, someone in Telesales said I could get my upgrade fee waived; I took her up on her offer, but with another supervisor.
THEN, I today received my Note III at work. I couldn't open the box, because I ordered the phone in CT, but I ordered it to my job in MA, where they charged tax on the full retail price on the phone. So, I returned the phone in the Fedex box unopened without a restocking fee, and went to corporate to do the return.
I was going to just return the phone, buy a new one and be out.
Then I realized the Verizon30 code was still valid, so I did an order on my laptop in-store, and did an in-store pickup option.
The salesman was processing my order, an error came up, I don't know what was happening.
I was coming in prepared to plop down $299 + CT taxes on the phone. I walked out paying a mere $90!!!
I don't know what the hell happened. I returned the other phone, and the money was being processed to my card already, have the receipt for that. Then, they only charged me $90 for the new one....
I asked them why, they didn't understand it, maybe an error with the promo code or something, but instead of getting $90 off the phone, I payed that amount. They said I shouldn't argue with that price, I agreed, paid and left. Now, I still am getting that $90 credit on my next bill, plus the credit for the upgrade fee I payed in store today. So, technically I paid $7 in tax for the phone at the end of the day, which is nutz. :laugh:
if anyone else can explain what happened, please tell me, otherwise I'm very confused.
I only paid 175$.. don't know how either.
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I got mine for 80$. I used the Verizon 30 code and they said I wasn't able to buy it for 209 so I had to get 120 in free accessories. So I just went back and returned the accessories
Same here.. I used the code and selected store pickup.. Walked in a hour later expecting to spend ~$250 all said and done... and was happy about it compared to the $350 it was going to be.
I get to the store and after playing a game of musical SIMs to get the Note 3 on my unlimited line, we come to the payment screen and he says $127.. I ask him if he was sure and we look at the break down and my unlimited was untouched and the discount charged me $90 for the phone instead of taking off $90.. Then $30 for the upgrade fee and I walked out with a Note 3 on my unlimited line for $127.
Verizon defiantly has some glitches in their system right now.. Here is to hoping they stand up for their mistakes and dont try and screw us later..
Just as a question, if they sold a phone for $90 on accident, could they then demand us to pay the rest? Or is the phone then legally ours?
Oh cool guys. I only paid $750 for mine. Lol
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So with this "glitch", is this ordering online and doing an in-store pickup, or is this being done at BestBuy? How did you do it? I want to see if I can do the same.
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Oh cool guys. I only paid $750 for mine. Lol
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me too haha
I also only paid 90 bucks. instead of charging me 210, they took 210 off the price! im so glad i wasnt the only one who did VERIZON30 and in-store pickup, now i dont feel as guilty :silly:
Wow, this thread is incredible. I was going to wait to get my Note 3 until root was available at least. I think I'll be kicking myself if I don't jump on this deal today. Thanks for the info, guys.
I believe it has to do with the VERIZON30 code and selecting In-Store Pickup. For some reason a lot of people are getting it for $90 when they do a store pickup (at a Verizon location, not Best Buy).
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So with this "glitch", is this ordering online and doing an in-store pickup, or is this being done at BestBuy? How did you do it? I want to see if I can do the same.
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Mine only gave me the option to pickup at a offical verizon store. Which I didn't like because I really like the guys at the phones plus here better than the official vzw store.
But mine said that my phone was going to be 209 online but only charged me 89.99 once I got into the store.
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Mine only gave me the option to pickup at a offical verizon store. Which I didn't like because I really like the guys at the phones plus here better than the official vzw store.
But mine said that my phone was going to be 209 online but only charged me 89.99 once I got into the store.
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This is just crazy. I'll be doing this over my Lunch break in about an hour from now. I'll post back to let people know it's still valid. Wish me luck!
What is the exact code for the promo? I'll do this right now
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I believe it has to do with the VERIZON30 code and selecting In-Store Pickup. For some reason a lot of people are getting it for $90 when they do a store pickup (at a Verizon location, not Best Buy).
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Are you guys upgrading your line? Will this work for those wanting to buy the phone at retail price?
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What is the exact code for the promo? I'll do this right now
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I believe it is VERIZON30 .
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Are you guys upgrading your line? Will this work for those wanting to buy the phone at retail price?
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I think this is for subsidized pricing only.
How does one get the $30 upgrade fee waived?
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How does one get the $30 upgrade fee waived?
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Complain about it to csr at store. I got mine waived. But that was before I heard about this.
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Did you guys have to enter in credit card info online too?
It works!
After reading through this thread at 12:00pm eastern time (I'm in NYC) I decided to pull the trigger and give it a shot. I logged in online and put the order in with the VERIZON30 code. I entered my card number and it showed the total to be ~$260. I got the confirmation e-mail and went to the store where I was able to get the last black Note 3. The rep did the standard stuff with setting up the phone and checking out but he came across an error message. He asked his associate if he had ever seen anything like that before and the other guy shook his head. Unable to figure out what had happened he proceeded with the check out and I was able to pay for the phone for only ~$130 (couldn't convince him to waive the upgrade fee but I can't complain). I'm not sure how much longer it'll be before Verizon catches on but pull the trigger now if you're definitely sure about buying it!
Same here, I only paid 128... when i pick up the phone at the store last night, they want me to sign the bill, it was only $128. I was like really. The employees there was confused too. But they didn't care.
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swan3609 said:
Same here.. I used the code and selected store pickup.. Walked in a hour later expecting to spend ~$250 all said and done... and was happy about it compared to the $350 it was going to be.
I get to the store and after playing a game of musical SIMs to get the Note 3 on my unlimited line, we come to the payment screen and he says $127.. I ask him if he was sure and we look at the break down and my unlimited was untouched and the discount charged me $90 for the phone instead of taking off $90.. Then $30 for the upgrade fee and I walked out with a Note 3 on my unlimited line for $127.
Verizon defiantly has some glitches in their system right now.. Here is to hoping they stand up for their mistakes and dont try and screw us later..
Just as a question, if they sold a phone for $90 on accident, could they then demand us to pay the rest? Or is the phone then legally ours?
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