Hi all,
I was searching the forums, but didn't see a clear answer to this:
Will Sense 3.0 correct the known bluetooth stack issues? (Wiimote's not connecting.) If not, does anyone know if HTC is planning on correcting the issues in an update? If not....does anyone know where we could petition HTC to do so?
Are there any TB ROMs, other than CM7, that work with the Wiimote now?
Thank you!
What does a Wiimote do on a phone?
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U can use your Wii controller to play a genosoid
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dc iz 2 legit said:
U can use your Wii controller to play a genosoid
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yes, most emulators like snes9xEX for instance allow you to use the wii controller. It's really a great feature. However it's incompatible with the Sense bluetooth drivers, so it doesn't work with HTC phones.
Hopefully someone knows the answer to at least one of those questions. Basf m just released a sense 3 rom. I'll have to try that
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I too was very interested to know this. I just tested it on an HTC Sensation, and I'm extremely sad to say that it does not work. I really wish HTC would fix this but I don't have my hopes up.
Cheers.
Anyone know a good bluetooth substitute we could use instead of a wii mote?
Just to clarify, the wii mote stuff works fine on my TB with CM7...but data and wifi don't...
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i used CM7 when i wanted to sync my wiimote. i dont think your gonna have much luck with syncing it to a sense rom though.
Bluetooth is borked on sense in general A2DP has dropping issues and it has issues syncing phonebook data to car bluetooth systems. Cm7 / aosp does not have these issues.
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I installed wiicontroller just to test on VirusROM 6/23 build w/Sense 3.0 and it's a no go. I love Sense 3.0, but the fact that this is possible SixAxis controller makes me want to switch back to CM7. That's so bada$$ to whip out your Dual Shock controller and play Street Fighter. On another note, I highly recommend using FPSE. Let me know if you want the APK.
No, even on the 3d which has the improved BT3 stack the drivers are not there to connect to PS3, controllers etc.
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I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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Sheer joy, if it's true.
Any knowledge or opinions would be much appreciated.
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i use a wiimote on my evo4g now. Just have to run an AOSP rom not SENSE.
I love the idea of emulating from my phone like I do now, playing Final Fantasy 3/6, 7, Tactics with a wiimote is already epic on the phone, couldn't imagine on a huge TV so easily now too. I ned a tv worth it though.
I have not found any custom roms I trust enough to void my warranty for. I have ran cm6 and cm7 and I did like them but as many phones as I have went through especially my hero last year ill stick with stock sense and hope evo 3d will allow such bt devices such as wii or ps3 remotes to work
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what does the thread title and the OP have to do with each other?
The Evo 4G supports bluetooth profiles like A2DP for wireless stereo headsets, and FTP and OPP (object push) for file transfers. But when it comes to connecting an interface device, it does not support bluetooth HID (human interface device) profiles. It only supports SPP (serial port protocal).
Which is why things like the MSI BGP100, and the FreedomPro Keyboard work with it. Both of these devices use SPP bluetooth profiles. Drivers were created and released in the market, and a stock Evo 4G can connect to these.
Everyone blamed the HTC Sense interface for why we couldn't connect HID devices, (Wii Mote, and several keyboards, mice, etc). Which is why the OP mentions Sense 3D, because he still thinks it was sense that did it. It wasn't actually Sense that did it. HTC just never built bluetooth HID profiles into the phone.
AOSP roms don't have sense, but they are also built from ground 0, so they have HID profiles built into them. A lot of people have mistakenly thought that it was taking Sense completely out, that brought bluetooth HID back in, but it was really just coincidence.
For example, iPhones don't come with HID profiles, but someone in Cydia released an app that alters the bluetooth stack for you, and adds additional profiles. Theoretically, someone could have done this for the Evo 4G, but no one has yet.
That being said, I have seen several sites, including HTC's own, showing bluetooth HID under the specs for the Evo 3D. This isn't something I was ever able to find for the Evo 4G.
Don't quote me on it, but I am banking on all the WiiMote apps, bluetooth keyboard apps, and any other bluetooth input device, working properly with the Evo 3D right out of the box.
Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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Vvlioncourtvv said:
Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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No problem. If you get a chance, hit my thanks button.
So I got wind of the fact that you can still possibly get a full upgrade even with just a partial upgrade. Now my favorite part of my Evo 4G is easily playing Super Nintendo games with my classic controller.. almost to the point that I think it might even be a dealbreaker for me getting the Evo 3D. Any news on if the bluetooth will be functional this time around or if there are any new 3rd party controllers that work?
Way to early to know that for sure.
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I'm under the impression that peripheral devices are honeycomb 3.1
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I'm under the impression that peripheral devices are honeycomb 3.1
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HTC Sense has a weird bluetooth stack that didn't allow the wiimote applications or bluetooth mice to work. I believe that's what the OP is referring to, since an Evo 4G with CM7 on it can run wiimote or a bluetooth mouse/keyboard, but not with sense.
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HTC Sense has a weird bluetooth stack that didn't allow the wiimote applications or bluetooth mice to work. I believe that's what the OP is referring to, since an Evo 4G with CM7 on it can run wiimote or a bluetooth mouse/keyboard, but not with sense.
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Ah my mistake. I thought he was referring to all these people using usb controllers
Hey everyone, if you haven't tried onlive on the 3d, download the app and grab a free lego batman game.
Anyway, my question pertains to the onlive controller and the 3D's bluetooth. I know that the wiimote and PS3 controller cannot connect to the stock rom to play emulators or anything. So, does anybody know about the Onlive controller? Is it compatible with the 3D's bluetooth stack? I just don't want to shell out $50 to find out. Thanks!
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Onlive controller on the Evo 4G
I'm using it on my evo 4g. Turns out you need android 3.1 or 4.0 to run the controller,so I'm running deck ics alpha1 in one of my boot manager slots. I don't think cyanogen 7.1 supports HID, from what I understand that's the problem, the master and slave are switched. They say connected but no response form button input. It works on 4.0 but it's a little laggy, still testing.
Thanks for the reply! I think the best way to go about it would be getting a transformer prime
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Is there any kind of gamepad solution for the Evo 3D that is confirmed to work? I don't care if I have to purchase a new product, but I would like a way to use either a bluetooth or USB gamepad.
I know the HTC BT Stack lacks support for the Wii remote and PS3 controllers.
Just looking for some input from other Evo 3D owners before I end up wasting my time and money on something that will not work.
You have an option of going to an AOSP rom and using it on there? it works on all bt devices i tested it with a wii mote w/classic controller
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Is there any kind of gamepad solution for the Evo 3D that is confirmed to work? I don't care if I have to purchase a new product, but I would like a way to use either a bluetooth or USB gamepad.
I know the HTC BT Stack lacks support for the Wii remote and PS3 controllers.
Just looking for some input from other Evo 3D owners before I end up wasting my time and money on something that will not work.
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Alas, there is not, the only way to get a pad working is to have a stock rom, then connect a pad via usb, wiimotes and ps3 pads work very well indeed, but with sense roms the bluetooth stack isn't compatible with pads, due to sense and it's bluetooth limitations, HID USB i think it is, basically devices can't be used as peripherals, including pads.
I'm in the same boat m8, watching my mate on his Gal nexus whilst i'm slumming it on a touchscreen pad is just a kick in the teeth, i do believe no one has ever gotten a pad to work over bluetooth on any device using sense.
Get Gannii's stock ICS rom when they fix the bluetooth and your golden, the camera doesn't work yet tho either
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You have an option of going to an AOSP rom and using it on there? it works on all bt devices i tested it with a wii mote w/classic controller
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I've been looking at different AOSP ROMs, and most people not in the comments that they still are unable to use a Wii remote. Which ROM have you been using, personally?
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I've been looking at different AOSP ROMs, and most people not in the comments that they still are unable to use a Wii remote. Which ROM have you been using, personally?
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Really? I used cyanogen mod 7 which worked great
Thanks for the input.
Has anyone tried the iControlpad on this phone? I've thought about buying one, but I don't want to sink the money if it's not going to work.
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Thanks for the input.
Has anyone tried the iControlpad on this phone? I've thought about buying one, but I don't want to sink the money if it's not going to work.
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http://www.gamestop.com/android/accessories/tablet-wireless-bluetooth-controller/97838
Works with sense...
The Zeemote js1 works too.
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6E8KzaVzMI
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
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I guess that would work, haha.
I think I'm going to go with the iControlPad. From what I've read it's compatible with HTC Sense when using BluezIME, has dual analog sticks and a clip-holder to hold the phone as a screen. Sure, it's $70, but comfort is important when gaming.
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I guess that would work, haha.
I think I'm going to go with the iControlPad. From what I've read it's compatible with HTC Sense when using BluezIME, has dual analog sticks and a clip-holder to hold the phone as a screen. Sure, it's $70, but comfort is important when gaming.
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Why not gametel´s gamepad?
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
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luis4ever said:
Why not gametel´s gamepad?
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I like that the iControlpad comes with a little clip mounting system that makes it feel more like a real handheld gaming device. I don't like the idea of having to prop my screen up somewhere and warp my neck to squeeze in a little gaming
Although I might buy one to have a 2nd controller for when I get my HDMI adapter
I'm using a PS3 Bluetooth controller and it works great. Just get the sixaxis pair app and you are good to go.
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I'm using a PS3 Bluetooth controller and it works great. Just get the sixaxis pair app and you are good to go.
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I have an HTC EVO 3D and do not want to root my phone, so that is not an option
Any other controllers out there that doesn't require root access?
Hi there,
Got my HTC One X+ last week and am glad to part of this forum.
I have some questions about the Sixaxis controller app. I am a great fan and supporter of this app and have used it on all my android devices.
First off... I understand its not compatible with the HOX+ or many other HTC Devices because of the way HTC configure their Bluetooth drivers. However.... See this video of the HOX using the Sixaxis Controller app.
One of he main reasons I got the HOX+ was because of this video. I was really surprised to learn its not compatible!! Did HTC use different drivers on these devices?
So my question is... How can we / very talented devs make it work? Will running a different ROM or Kernel provide the right drivers?
Can the drivers from the HOX be flashed onto the HOX+?
Devs... Any ideas?
Oops. Ok ok ok. Before the flaming starts... I did do a search and got nothing... i have just done another and seen that a similar question has already been asked. I think it may be because my 'a' key is missing off my laptop keyboard and searched the wrong phrase.... (sixxis)
Anyways, My question still stands... Is there a way to use the BT drivers from the HOX?
Or. Is there another ROM or Kernel we can use?
Thanks
HTC devices are missing certain blutooth protocols that prevent sixaxis from working. Maybe CM will fix this. But i believe some people has reported it does not.
Why not buy a OTG cable and connect via USB?
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Sure, I'll get a usb cable But will that still let me use the Sixaxis app?
Does the HOX+ have native gamepad support? So we can play shadowgun, dead trigger, GTA etc with our controllers?
So I'm also still interested in finding out if its possible to somehow port over the HOX Bluetooth protocols to the HOX+... I'm no dev, but would that be possible? .... What is a protocol?
tuckersmission said:
Sure, I'll get a usb cable But will that still let me use the Sixaxis app?
Does the HOX+ have native gamepad support? So we can play shadowgun, dead trigger, GTA etc with our controllers?
So I'm also still interested in finding out if its possible to somehow port over the HOX Bluetooth protocols to the HOX+... I'm no dev, but would that be possible? .... What is a protocol?
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You dont need sixaxis if you connect wired. Android has drivers for ps3 and 360 controllers. So it's plug n play pretty much
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You dont need sixaxis if you connect wired. Android has drivers for ps3 and 360 controllers. So it's plug n play pretty much
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Its really true that they don't work in this device with Bluetooth? It worked just fine on my old one xl on a stock rom
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Its really true that they don't work in this device with Bluetooth? It worked just fine on my old one xl on a stock rom
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Did you have it working with a sense rom? It's a common issue with most HTC devices afaik.
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Did you have it working with a sense rom? It's a common issue with most HTC devices afaik.
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I had issues pairing with it but I could just use my nexus 7 and enter in the Bluetooth address to my one xl to pair the controller and it worked fine
If I can find my otg cable I'll test it on this phone
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superchilpil said:
Its really true that they don't work in this device with Bluetooth? It worked just fine on my old one xl on a stock rom
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It's true that they won't pair with the sixaxis app.
I don't have a usb cable so I can't test that way.
With my transformer prime I could connect with usb and then pair via blue tooth to play shadow gun etc... Native game pad support.
I really miss the sixaxis app for gaming. The video in the first post shows it working on the HOX. I guess the question I'm asking again is can the bluetooth protocols from the HOX be ported over to the HOX+?
There must be a way to get this working on the HOX.
Please tell me if I'm way off track but can this be done? Come on devs put me out my misery!
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tuckersmission said:
It's true that they won't pair with the sixaxis app.
I don't have a usb cable so I can't test that way.
With my transformer prime I could connect with usb and then pair via blue tooth to play shadow gun etc... Native game pad support.
I really miss the sixaxis app for gaming. The video in the first post shows it working on the HOX. I guess the question I'm asking again is can the bluetooth protocols from the HOX be ported over to the HOX+?
There must be a way to get this working on the HOX.
Please tell me if I'm way off track but can this be done? Come on devs put me out my misery!
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Use your prime to pair your hox, in the sixaxis app there's an option to pair manually. Open that up and erase the Bluetooth address.
Open the app on you hox to get its address, and enter the Bluetooth address from your hox in you prime and hit pair
Then the sixaxis controller will be paired with your hox.
Its a pain but it works
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Yeah, I know I can pair it manually either with a pc or on my Prime, but the issues still remains that the Sixaxis app won't start the Bluetooth drivers and therefore will never connect to the controller.
I've been researching and apparently you can port over the normal Android Bluetooth bits but it breaks HTC Sense. :banghead:
So back to the beginning... Sixaxis works on the HOX, so the HOX must have compatible Bluetooth protocols... Can one of the talented Dev's here get the Bluetooth bits from the HOX over to the HOX+?
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You dont need sixaxis if you connect wired. Android has drivers for ps3 and 360 controllers. So it's plug n play pretty much
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You do if you want to create Maps for games that do not have native game pad support. Like MW4, Batman, etc...
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I, too, am having problems getting the sixaxis app to work.
Is there a workaround of any kind or will we just have to wait for a custom rom that fixes the issue?
any one has any fix? my ps3 controler bluetooth mac adress is stuck at 00:00:00:00:00:00 i can't change it. and wil only work wired with ps3 (normal its a unoficiel) but on my android phone. gs3 it conects i play gta san, but than controler goes off. i need to unplug it and pres home buton and plug back in and it works 10sec. and its gone again..