Thunderbolt ?s - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1. Hi, I am about to buy a ThunderBolt in a week without a contract. The cheapest price so far is: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5605
If you know where I can get one cheaper please post the link. No ebay or craigslist etc.
2. Is this the best phone on VZW? Or should I be waiting for the next iPhone? (I like Android way better!)
3. If there is anything else I should know feel free to post!
Thanks, tyvallely

Yeah definitely an iPhone MOAR Gs!

Why an iPhone? What phone do you have?

Do not buy Crapple products! You must resist! Android is WAY better.

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do not buy crapple products! You must resist! Android is way better.
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The next iPhone probably won't have LTE. It'll probably have a slightly faster cpu, NFC chip and a "4GS" label, but not 4G capable.
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iPhone 5 will not have 4g lte. It will "probably" have notification down screen (like android) and a5 chip.

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GO to swappa.com and look up the thunderbolt. should be alot cheaper :] gl shopping!

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GO to swappa.com and look up the thunderbolt. should be alot cheaper :] gl shopping!
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Thanks but is that safe? Have you done that? And there weren't any on there. (Yet.)

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Thanks but is that safe? Have you done that? And there weren't any on there. (Yet.)
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yea its safe. there were a few there a few days ago. around 320ish
personally id just wait for one to pop up there cause its probably gonna save you some cash.

I say get a thunderbolt before July 7th to get locked into unlimited 4g, if you don't care about that then I say wait for the next Motorola phone.

i have my reservations with the thunderbolt so far. it's been buggy and it is a tad bigger than i would like. The advantages of it over the dinc i had outweighs the cons though. 4G is up and running in portland and it's just too awesome to go back. I am really hoping that HTC sends an update out soon.
not sure why not the iphone though? it's a good phone for the simple minded. If i wasn't a rooter i'd be on the iphone. I am a no bloatware kinda guy and apple wins in that department. But since i am into hacking (customizing) electronics it's only natural for me to side with android. the iphone is too plain and boring... even if it's jailbroken.
If the next iphone is not 4g... that's a HUGE mistake on apples part. If that's the case... android will dominate the rest of 2011 well into 2012.

The Bionic specs really don't please me except for the 4G and dual-core.

I am picked up my TBolt from Craigslist for $320 a few months ago and I met the seller at the VZW store to coirm it worked. I would not pay more than $350 for one. It is definately a solid phone if you're comfortable with rooting and moding it.

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I am picked up my TBolt from Craigslist for $320 a few months ago and I met the seller at the VZW store to coirm it worked. I would not pay more than $350 for one. It is definately a solid phone if you're comfortable with rooting and moding it.
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Yeah the only problem I have with that is I want to get it from a website with a good reputation and I am not really into the rooting or modding.

PhillyCheez said:
i have my reservations with the thunderbolt so far. it's been buggy and it is a tad bigger than i would like. The advantages of it over the dinc i had outweighs the cons though. 4G is up and running in portland and it's just too awesome to go back. I am really hoping that HTC sends an update out soon.
not sure why not the iphone though? it's a good phone for the simple minded. If i wasn't a rooter i'd be on the iphone. I am a no bloatware kinda guy and apple wins in that department. But since i am into hacking (customizing) electronics it's only natural for me to side with android. the iphone is too plain and boring... even if it's jailbroken.
If the next iphone is not 4g... that's a HUGE mistake on apples part. If that's the case... android will dominate the rest of 2011 well into 2012.
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Yeah the update is comming June 30th 2011. The iPhone 4 is just colorful icons to me. I want something where I can put widgets on the homescreen and choose what apps I want to be on my homescreen. I don't mind the VZW Apps (bloatware) pre-installed. I don't want to modify or root any of my phones either. But I agree with you about the iPhone being plain and boring. I also read an article saying the iPhone will not be 4G as well.

Make sure you get it before the 7th so you can be grandfathered into the unlimited. :]
i mean even if you dont use more than 2gbs a month its always nice to have the option to use more

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Well, that it was a good run

Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
it's really all verizon's fault, they NEVER promoted the eris, and if you went in there wanting to buy one they would push the droid on you like no tomorrow.
hopefully this doesnt stop them from releasing the 2.1 OTA update to the general public, it will really help development along for us. Someday, when my eris dies I will upgrade (damn that incredible looks so good...) but until that day, I dont regret a single thing about it. except for installing leak, good thing a got a replacement though
It always seemed to me like the Eris has been advertised as Verizon's cheaper (even free for a lot of us) alternative to the Droid, and it did it's job well.
With the Incredible and Nexus One and all of the other phones (probably) coming out soon I'd expect the Droid to take the Eris' place in the lineup, like a "Buy a new HTC Incredible and get a Motorola Droid FREE" kind of deal.
ah.... oh well...
Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
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Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
The Long and The Short of it...
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Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
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We all know technology changes daily be it hardware or software or whatever...
Cell phones, pda's ect are particularly susceptible as they are market driven and manufacturers are always trying to come out with the "Next Big Thing".
Hell the moto droid is now available on several websites for 20 bucks on a new 2 year...Letstalk.com etc...
Being a former 8 year blackberry user I can say this for Android at least theyre not just putting a new facade over a dated os\ui . So long as my eris doesnt melt down at the end of life date I'm good. Also so long as you're a VZW customer you'll get support for your device even if it is minimal.
I always felt the Eris was kind of an afterthought, the way they marketed it.
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
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It's just a thought for now... I haven't totally decided but I will wait and see what the HTC incredible or whatever VZW comes out with, has to offer... if its something like an amazingly fast phone I'll probably get it.. if not I will stay with the Eris.. I don't hate the Eris, I think it is one amazing phone
plus I'd still be on here [XDA] using the Eris for testing stuff, helping out as much as I can..
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
and what about in six more months after that and they double the specs on the incredible
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Lemcott said:
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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exactly... I will see when i comes out what people are saying first.. and the eris is an amazing phone for the price. I really dont think you can beat the value.
After rocking an HTC Touch for 1.5 years, I bought a brand new Eris from someone and avoided a contract reset just a week ago. I think it's a great phone, and I have no regrets. I can upgrade anytime but I'm still on a very good Alltel contract so I want to hold out as long as I can before switching to a VZW plan. It does everything I need it to do.
Has anyone heard anything more about this? I'd like to know if it's actually going to happen or not. Although I'm sure if it is we'll find out soon.. I'd also like to know if they'd offer us an upgrade for free or at least half price. If they stop doing the phone completely I think they should at least offer us something. I'd love to upgrade to the Incredible if it was free or half price..
why would they give us a new phone simply because they've stopped selling it?
If you have to do a warranty replacement or anything like that, I'm sure there is a large multitude of backup units, and once those run out/they stop carrying those, verizon will simply replace it with a phone of equal value and hardware features like they always have done for discontinued phones.
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looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of t
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
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Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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sms440 said:
Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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I just read an article about the nexus one being scrapped. Thought you just another person complaining because they were impatient. I'll eat my words and apologize now.
yeah, the nexus one is pretty dead.
plagued by 3g problems, and low sales, the only thing to really look forward to in picking one up over another phone like the incredible is that it it's wireless N chipset miiiiiiiiiiight (big might) get support soon.
honestly, for the price you'd be better off getting an incredible and waiting for root to get vanilla-android.
and man, why do people hate sense ui so much? the only ONLY problem it has is how laggy it can get. and on the eris? honestly, I expected it when I bought it looking at the specs. but upgrading to 2.1 got rid of ALL the lag for me. I love the look and extra screens of sense.
and jebus... the incredible is rocking DOUBLE the cpu and ram hardware, using nearly the same rosie build as the eris. it will be faster then us on 2.1 out of the freaking box, and with root... you'll be blazing through apps like crazy.

[Q] Who's Jumping ship....

Alright so Now that is appears as though the EVO 3D will never attain full Root lets see how big of a deal this really is.
I haven't made up my mind yet...however I am seriously considering it.
The phone in itself is still bad ass and i am pretty sure you can still gain Root and do some minor modifications.
However, the fact that you can not fully customize and flash roms and kernels that fit you the best is a big turn off.
HTC just turned into Apple with the elitist take it or leave it attitude in my opinion.
Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a way around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
It saddens me that I won't be able to mod my device that I paid for, but I'll still get it, it think. Maybe I'll wait for it to release then get a 4g, instead. We'll see.
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I got a Nexus S 4G off contract just because a Nexus is always worth owning. I was able to attain my upgrade again and was ready to pull the trigger on the 3D and alternate until I found a preference, if ever. Now? Not a chance. Will stick to the Nexus and use my upgrade on either the next Nexus or a next gen WP 7.1 in the fall.
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I'm getting it day one.
Tapa tapa tapa
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Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a what around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
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Be careful on what you say. That can give false hope and I hate to see people buy this phone expecting that someone will get on it and find themselves like other phone users.....sitting with the exact same phone they bought a year later.
Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
I still plan on getting it day 1 as well, I'm not really sure why so many people think Samsung is the magical catalyst in the equation to stop buying HTC products.
The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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If you have a discount available but won't use it now for the 3d but use the discount down the line, why not save the money now and pay full retail on something else down the line. What if down the line you decide to keep your 3d and not buy something else.
If you are willing to pay full price for a device, might as well keep your money now and in your pocket instead of Sprints. Don't see your angle on this one.
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The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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my thoughts exactly.
I don't know yet. I never really used the Root feature on my Hero, just for the occasional new look every few months. Not too sure that no root will be that big a deal for me. As long as its fast(er than my hero) and works for texting like it should, I'll survive.
Wouldnt matter to me i find all the customize apps on the market already matching my needs. I will probaby worry if i cant upgrade to the next firmware of 2012
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If...cracking it seems a nogo....it'll bring a sweet craigslist price..
Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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antjc80 said:
Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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+1 on being harassed by the Mrs. for spending too much time on my phone---especially when I am in recovery/rebooting when she is trying to get a hold of me.
Coming from a Hero on launch day, I am due for some new hardware. Since I am a Sprint Premier customer, I can certainly live with it for a year (assuming it makes it past the 30 day return period). I still plan to get one on launch day and shortly thereafter, be able to install SU and my rooted apps.
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Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
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My cousin got a droid 2 and he's rooted via Z4root. There's just not any ROMs or Kernels/Themes you can flash over it.
as long as it has a partial root so I can use wifi tether like the original unrevoked I'll be a happy camper, though I would love a myn rom on my evo 3d if thats not possible I still wanna use my rooted apps!
The price will deter me more than the fact that it's locked up. If it releases at $300 then I'll spend another $100 and get the Asus transformer and keep my Hero for another year.
Honestly... I was a little worried about 3D support with custom ROMs anyway. I'm sure HTC is doing a lot of stuff to get Android and Sense to work with 3D.
I've had some concerns with security on some of the custom ROMs lately anyways, so I will have no problem going back to stock sense. I actually really like sense... it was just too darn slow on the Hero. I'm sure it will be nice and fast on the Evo 3D. I'm still planning on getting it. But, like I said, if they announce a $300 price for it I'll consider cancelling my pre-order and spending another $100 to get a tablet. Smartphones aren't worth $300 when you can get laptops/tablets for $300-400 nowadays.

BestBuy says "They ain't exactly flying off the shelves"

Noticing a whole stack of them in the case at a local Bestbuy, I asked 2 store managers and 2 other dept employees about the new Razr. They ALL said it was a non-event, although Motorola had invested $mils in advertising. Evidently, it was designed and put into production months ago, and nowadays that's just not quick enough for the Android market. Things simply evolve much faster than Motorola's bureaucracy can adjust.
Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
According to one of the phone-dept workers, a good chunk of sales have been returned overnight after a disappointing unboxing/testing.
Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
-JP
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JPurp said:
I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
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This.
Also the phone needs recovery at this point I believe. It can certainly be "Rom-ed" but it just can't be "Kernel'ed". That is a pretty lame deal breaker if you want a phone simply to install different kernels to boost your quadrant scores that no one cares about.
If you ask me I agree the phone is amazing, I love it. The screen is mind blowing to me, so I have no problem paying that and being in a contract for it. I guess one needs to consider all the options customers have at this point, mainly with the iphone on verizon now. Every average jo wants an iphone just cause his neighbor has one.
Anyone true tech enthusiast wouldn't buy from Best Buy LOL (I've went there with a friend that insisted I do for Black Friday). That place is terrible and is a total rip off. Geek squad and the employees (I haven't spoke to a single one that seems to know what they're doing/talking about) yeah they're something else. I highly doubt there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan, it's probably the DROID 4, which has similar design but also has a physical keyboard. If it definitely is the the RAZR 2 this will be my last Motorola phone period. If their solution is to just make a new device like 2-3 months later, instead of supporting their most current phones, then that's a bad business model for sure.
Sure there probably will be a RAZR 2, but I personally hope not, seeing it would kinda tarnish the fact that it's a unique device/name series. But yeah with Amazon selling the device for 111.11 on 11/11 and Costco with that beast package, and a good majority of people pre ordering to get the phone early (one day w00t). It's not a surprise that Best Buy isn't pushing the phones like hotcakes. Also I would take anything that Best Buy tells you about Android rumors with a grain of salt.
I wouldn't go to best buy if they were the ONLY brick and mortar selling phones. I'd wait the 2 days for UPS.
Anyone with good common sense wouldn't go to BB for their phones even with their instant rebate deals. Their "insurance" plan is a rip off and the fact Amazon was selling it for 111.11 on the day of release (as someone said earlier) is reason enough for BB to not see this phone flying off shelves.
Add to the fact, all the advertising dollars Verizon spent, pointed to the phone being sold BY VERIZON STORES. I have a friend who works for verizon and she sold out of the RAZR within a couple hours and her store had a couple hundred of them.
SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
the OP is completely full of crap... so is anyone else that says the removable battery is a "no go". did the soldered in battery hurt Iphone?
the screen on this phone is fantastic, anyone who wants to complain about it is a person that will never be happy with anything.
bugs? this is the least buggy phone that i have ever owned.
im nowhere near a moto fan boy, but these complainers need to jus STFU, the Razr is a sweet phone.......
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SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
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I lol'd. BB is terrible for computers/phones etc (Newegg for life!). Anyways the fact that they're saying there's a RAZR 2 coming out in like 4 months yeahhh no. Droid 4 probably aka RAZR jr w/ a keyboard, will be nice for those that crave physical keyborads. But I doubt moto is gonna pull another "Bionic" deal with the RAZR. Replacing their flagship so soon after it comes out, I'm trying to retain faith lol.
They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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If I wanted to buy a phone in store I'd go with Costco. 90 day return policy +
sexy bundles.
vdub804 said:
I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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Imo it's all about software optimization. Hardware on these phones are ahead of the software that's out there for sure. GS2 is a beast when it first came out, and still is.
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Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
What I want to know is this guys "source" stating there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan. Ahh those BB kids will say anything now adays.
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Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
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WTF? The battery is replaceable: it isn't soldered. You need to remove two screws on the battery flat cable and your battery can be removed.
Yup, not like other phones where you simply use your fingers, but that's it.
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Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
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I think not so many devices are built with AMOLED displays (powerwise, good vibrance, good color).
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Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
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I don't think so. Motorola have learnt this from his past. Milestone was buggy.. but watch at the first ATRIX ROM: there wasn't any important bug at all. They've only enhanced its speed with the updates as personally I haven't noticed any bug.
And anyway, every first S/W version of every pda has got some bugs, that's absolutely normal, with the exception that Motorola is very fast at updates.
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#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
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I've bought it at 550 euros. It's mine and I'm not stuck with it for 35 years
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Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
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This device is another exception in Motorola's policies. Moto uses to sign their devices forever, but as Moto said and confirmed publicly, like happened on ATRIX for the Gingerbread update, when RAZR will get ICS, Moto will give us an unlockable bootloader, thing that is SURE for non branded devices and for branded ones (like Verizon's...) it's about the operator.
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According to one of the phone-dept workers, a good chunk of sales have been returned overnight after a disappointing unboxing/testing.
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I know of some guys that have bought the RAZR, unboxed, tested for 30 minutes and then re-sold it. It was too big for their hands. I don't know other bad things as for now.
Anyway, in my opinion, you should try the device in a store prior buying it, especially if it is a big device and you've got small hands.
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Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
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Oh damn, my SGS2 won't resist to a drop on asphalt, while my ATRIX is still alive. Moto's build quality has ever been Moto's build quality
As for the screen, it's really, really good because it's an AMOLED display.. but I have to admit I haven't ever liked the PenTile matrix.
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Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
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Mmh, I don't think so, at least for now. They've just released the RAZR.
That would cut their RAZR sales and make them lose a lot of money.
I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
Anyone know what the Costco bundle for the RAZR comes with?
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
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lmao that's a big a$$ knife
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I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
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Yes! Cause we all know that Best Buy store employees are always right !!!!
Since I agree with most of these Bestbuy comments, I made a trip over to the Verizon store. Hit 3 actually, one is the largest in the state. Guess what - there were dozens of new razr's in stock there too.
Not convinced, I asked around, speaking to 3-4 employees in each store. They all said the same thing the Bestbuy people did - the phone is a 7 month old semi face lift of some earlier Mot phone, and simply put nobody cares for it and nobody's impressed. Same list of complaints earlier in this thread.
"What's everybody waiting for" I asked? Everyone said the same thing: the high res screens that are about to hit. Namely the SAMSUNG Nexus is the first of a long list of new generation phones, we may see 6-7 by EOY they told me

I think I have a problem waiting for this phone...

I dont know what it is but for some reason I just REALLY want this phone right now. I have to admit when the gs3 was first announced I thought it was the ugliest thing out there. Lately its been growing on me and I just want it very badly right now. I probably seen every unboxing/review video of it in youtube and I constantly check for updates on what the situation on this phone is. What makes matters worst is that i pre ordered this phone on Verizon so i have to wait longer then everyone else to get it. Im just hoping for a stroke of luck that some how The verizon model gets shipped out before the 9th. Anyways am I the only one like this?
i think the hype for this phone has been just so much a lot of people are feeling the same way...
im actually about to return my HTC Evo 4G LTE (which is an AWESOME phone), for putting in my pre-order for the sgs3
the removable, larger batter and the 2 GBs of RAM really have me pumped, plus a lot of cool extra features, gesture controls, etc make this a super exciting phone...
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i think the hype for this phone has been just so much a lot of people are feeling the same way...
im actually about to return my HTC Evo 4G LTE (which is an AWESOME phone), for putting in my pre-order for the sgs3
the removable, larger batter and the 2 GBs of RAM really have me pumped, plus a lot of cool extra features, gesture controls, etc make this a super exciting phone...
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Exactly! lol and i think what sold me the most on this phone is the fact that the battery is gonna be way better then my galaxy nexus so i dont have to worry about it dying all the time. Also all of the other features are just amazing.
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I dont know what it is but for some reason I just REALLY want this phone right now. I have to admit when the gs3 was first announced I thought it was the ugliest thing out there. Lately its been growing on me and I just want it very badly right now. I probably seen every unboxing/review video of it in youtube and I constantly check for updates on what the situation on this phone is. What makes matters worst is that i pre ordered this phone on Verizon so i have to wait longer then everyone else to get it. Im just hoping for a stroke of luck that some how The verizon model gets shipped out before the 9th. Anyways am I the only one like this?
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lol noooo you're not the only one. I've watched almost every video on youtube.. over and over and over again and finally someone shared a video of the Canadian version which is the same as the U.S. one which I will be getting on June 21st from tmobile I am too too excited! imma have to pay 600 somethin for it.. grrrr
hahaha same, im stalking this phone like a bieber fan.
Yea you're alone. I'm coming from an Evo 4G, and there have been some decent replacements, like the nexus, galaxy S II, but I've been stalking this phone since it was first annouced back before march. I'm with Sprint, so I'll have mine next week. You can live vicariously through us.
Waiting on a pre-order is worse than simply waiting for release in my opinion, since the money is already gone from my account, but no phone in hand. Reading about how much the international people are enjoying theirs already makes it even harder.
You are not alone. I am also very excited for the S3!!! Then again I have an X2 so really any phone is looking good to me right about now lol!
I'm pretty blown away by the specs of the S3 and if I don't have to pay full price for it, I'll probably get it. Does anyone know if I would still have to pay full retail price for the S3 if I upgrade my contract before the 28th and lock in another 2 years unlimited data?? On Verizion, obviously...
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I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way. I think Samsung should start doing their press release events the day before release because making us wait this long is simply unfair. I am secretly hoping that my carrier will call me today and say 'we got a stack of phones in early, would you like to pick yours up early?' LOL. Seriously, I know once I have the phone a while the novelty will wear off a bit but I want it now. And its not like my SGS2 is not a good enough phone or won't hold me over for another year. Do we need help or are just simply victims of marketing?? haha
And now it looks like the Canadian release date has been increased another week to the 27th.
I can't wait either cuz I'm not rooting this evolte since its temp so I want my permanent gs3 yeah buddy.
I thought I was the only one... I thought this was the ugliest phone, but it some how has grown on me, a lot, like I haven't been this bad since the first iPhone came out (everyone was going crazy about it)... and the fact that I haven't seen any U.S variants is driving me nuts...
Lol same here, I almost bought the international version a few days ago to use on AT&T. *Patient running on low*
Im watchin youtube videos of the s3 on my evo lte drooling over the s3 lol
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Currently waiting for my S3 from Verizon also and going crazy but over the last couple days it seems that I'm phasing it out more and more. I was going crazy at first and now I'm just like whatever when it comes it comes especially with no solid release date, I've heard so many 6/28, 7/9, 7/10 all I know is that its pre ordered and I'll be in the first batch of shipments whenever it happens.
This is not just a phone - Galaxy Nexus
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Im watchin youtube videos of the s3 on my evo lte drooling over the s3 lol
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Rofl me too
Just a phone dude. And like all android phones that get rooted, you never find it perfect because you keep flashing and flashing until some other phone comes out and you feel the need tio get rid of the one you have.
I'm on here like 100+ times a day among every other site that I can find info. I even went and did a recon on a T-Mobile store to find the best tactical advantage for me to get my phone first. Crazy!
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I'm anxious to get it, for sure, I just hope its worth the wait and lives up to the hype.
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I'm shopping for accessories already lol
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I'm anxious to get it, for sure, I just hope its worth the wait and lives up to the hype.
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Watch the review videos by phonedog the gs3 looks amazing.

Goodbye, Rezound!

Hey guys, so yesterday I made the switch to Sprint (it's waaay cheaper than VZW here..) and in return I got rid of my Rezound in exchange for the beautiful HTC One. I'm gonna miss all the talented developers here but I'm gonna miss Snuzzo's kernel and how helpful he is the most . It sucked selling my Rezound after having it for over a year and a half. I came from an iPhone to the Rezound, so everyone here made my first Android experience a great one. The reasoning behind it is because my Rezound's digitizer plug-in was messed up after replacing my screen twice, my front housing was peeling off from opening it, the vibrating motor was broke and the battery life was..well, we know our Rezounds and their batteries lol. I never post but I feel like I'm friends with everyone here just because this community is so nice and helpful. I'm gonna miss you all .
PS the One is amazing. I'm not as wowed as I was with my Rezound because I'm already familiar with Sense and Android, but it feels great in my hands and looks amazing.
I just bought a pair of Nexus 4s for the wife and I and switched to T-Mobile. This is definitely an awesome little dev community. Many thanks to all!
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First; thank you for the kind words BOTH OF YOU. Good to see I helped you. Second; Who says I won't be doing anything on the Htc One?
I will definitely miss this community too! 3 days before I leave for basic training, my battery goes south and the earliest I can get a new battery is sometime on Tuesday...when I'll already be on a plane to Ft. Jackson. Bought a GS3 on CL, and I must say, the battery life is so phenomenal compared to the Rezound. 12+ hours compared to my average 4-6.
Will definitely miss the devs! I've been here since launch day in November 2011. My oh my how far development has come!!
And now Jellybean is out! I gotta stop monitoring this board cause now I'm hurting lol
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ParagonXI said:
And now Jellybean is out! I gotta stop monitoring this board cause now I'm hurting lol
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See you on the other side, thanks snuzzo, Chad, neo, countershrike, Hawk, newt, and all the others for the great development. I'm glad to see Scott working on the att htc one. This phone is amazing
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Just picked up my 3rd Rezound... a minty used one with a ton of accessories and extra batteries, for $155. Nothing about this phone makes it anywhere near obsolete, but you guys just keep chasing after the latest, greatest shiny new device, and keep spending $$$. The smarter ones will be around to pick up your dirt cheap discarded leftovers. I'm still on my very first Rezound (purchased on Black Friday 2011), I just gave a used "spare" to my wife after her old dumb phone died, and now I have another backup/experimenting phone for cheap.
THANK YOU!
Freedom First said:
Just picked up my 3rd Rezound... a minty used one with a ton of accessories and extra batteries, for $155. Nothing about this phone makes it anywhere near obsolete, but you guys just keep chasing after the latest, greatest shiny new device, and keep spending $$$. The smarter ones will be around to pick up your dirt cheap discarded leftovers. I'm still on my very first Rezound (purchased on Black Friday 2011), I just gave a used "spare" to my wife after her old dumb phone died, and now I have another backup/experimenting phone for cheap.
THANK YOU!
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Not jealousy, sounds more like loyal and being a money saver. I do agree, why waste your cash .....
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Sounds like someone is jealous. Don't be hating because some of us can afford the latest and greatest when it comes out .
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Ahhh... I see. Common sense is the new Jealousy. :silly:
I could pay cash for a new One every month, and never miss the money. I don't live in my mom's basement, either. Fact remains, the Rezound is still a great device, and other than the lemming-like desire to have the "latest and greatest" (for no other reason than the dread of feeling left out of the stampede), there's no real reason to switch from it.
BTW... how much better was that Nexus than your Rezound? (my wife has one for a company-issued phone, and it SUCKS compared to her Rezound)
I am thinking of getting an S4 to replace my Rezound and use the Rezound to replace my D1. That way I can still have the best of both worlds.
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Ahhh... I see. Common sense is the new Jealousy. :silly:
I could pay cash for a new One every month, and never miss the money. I don't live in my mom's basement, either. Fact remains, the Rezound is still a great device, and other than the lemming-like desire to have the "latest and greatest" (for no other reason than the dread of feeling left out of the stampede), there's no real reason to switch from it.
BTW... how much better was that Nexus than your Rezound? (my wife has one for a company-issued phone, and it SUCKS compared to her Rezound)
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I liked my Nexus way better vs my Rezound. Battery life was better, call quality was great, no creaky back and no washed out colors like the LCD on the Rezound. I do admit that the display on the Rezound is more crisp. That and all AOSP roms atm on the Nexus are way smoother for now. The only reason I dropped the Nexus is cause the screens would keep crapping out on me. Once developement starts firing up for the S4 bye bye S3! Plus if you have the financial standing to buy a new device and have enough left over in your bank for rainy days why care? Spend your money on things you enjoy! Spoil your wife and kids! When you croak and have a nice life insurance policy they'll be set for some time.
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Not jealousy, sounds more like loyal and being a money saver. I do agree, why waste your cash .....
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Some of us have more disposable income vs others and that's just an unfair fact of life .
Again, even though I myself CAN AFFORD to get a new device. I've not had a reason to. I guess assets and a word call saving doesnt apply when you said "disposable". Just save the "disposable" income. May need it one day.
What I am saying is go for it, but don't fill my mouth with words. Again, jealous, heck no.
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Bolded and underlined. Which seems you are implying we are of lesser intelligence if we decide to spend full retail on new devices?
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When we're talking about a devices that are hobbled by the inability to replace batteries when they go dead (planned obsolescence), or upgrade memory (thus forcing users into relying on cloud storage and higher data charges), then yes... it is a lesser intelligence issue. You're playing into the provider's hands, rather than calling your own shots. (OOOoooo.... look!! SHINY!!!)
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Again, even though I myself CAN AFFORD to get a new device. I've not had a reason to. I guess assets and a word call saving doesnt apply when you said "disposable". Just save the "disposable" income. May need it one day.
What I am saying is go for it, but don't fill my mouth with words. Again, jealous, heck no.
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I was never implying you were jealous. To each their own when it comes to what they do with their $$$. I just think freedoom is a **** when he is stating someone is of lesser intelligence for hopping on a newer device of their choice. I am directing the comment purely at him.
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When we're talking about a devices that are hobbled by the inability to replace batteries when they go dead (planned obsolescence), or upgrade memory (thus forcing users into relying on cloud storage and higher data charges), then yes... it is a lesser intelligence issue. You're playing into the provider's hands, rather than calling your own shots. (OOOoooo.... look!! SHINY!!!)
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This is why I choose which shiny new device suits my needs before I buy it and drool. Plus I have unlimited data so idgaf about using cloud solutions . Some people don't care about swapping out batteries.. As most of them will already have a newer device before the battery goes bad. Lol you really think you're calling your own shots when you're contracted with a carrier? I rest my case.
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I was never implying you were jealous. To each their own when it comes to what they do with their $$$. I just think freedoom is a **** when he is stating someone is of lesser intelligence for hopping on a newer device of their choice. I am directing the comment purely at him.
This is why I choose which shiny new device suits my needs before I buy it and drool. Plus I have unlimited data so idgaf about using cloud solutions . Some people don't care about swapping out batteries.. As most of them will already have a newer device before the battery goes bad. Lol you really think you're calling your own shots when you're contracted with a carrier? I rest my case.
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I'm not under contract. I rest mine!
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I'm not under contract. I rest mine!
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No contract with unlimited data oh baby!

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