[Q] 1x vs 3G - HTC EVO 3D

So this may be a little off topic but I just switched from Tmobile to Sprint a few days ago so I can get the Evo 3d when it gets released so I've been using the Nexus 4g in the mean time, anyways there's no 4g coverage in my area so I'm on 3g most of the time and the speeds are really slow maybe an average of 600kbps but today I noticed I was stock on 1x during most of the day! as I was browsing the internet I noticed the pages were loading surprisingly fast so I ran several speed tests and I was getting around 2 megs down everytime!! how is this possible? I thought 3g was faster than 1x, any thoughts?

It makes absolutely no sense. 1x should be nowhere near those speeds.

i agree! that's why I thought that was really strange I was bumped down that my 3g came back on , I'm actually trying to figure out how to disable 3g on my phone right now! I read somewhere that sprint is testing 1x advance technology but I don't know if that's the case, oh well it was good while it lasted!

Might be 1x advanced like u say
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[Q] Basic Question About 4G in Sacramento!!??

So it looks like they just got 4g in Sacramento today and im stoked...however im only getting like 4 to 7 mbps when using the speed test app...i was wondering is that normal or is that kind of slow...i see people on here always talking bout 20mbs and more...but before that i was only getting like 2mbps on 3g so maybe i should complain i was just wondering
Reporting from Sacramento here.. yes 4G is on.. but it could just be that they are testing it. I've had 4G turned on a few times in the past near Sac Downtown. We are scheduled for June 16th.. and I am guessing that's when it'll be turned on for good. But yea, my current speeds are also in the 6-7MB range.. not too bad considering I am inside an office.
thank you
thank you brother!
It's been on at where I live (North Natomas) ever since I got the phone in April. It's on and off where I work (South Sac).
The speedtest.net app has always been buggy and likely cannot gauge correct LTE speeds.
I recommend you point brownser to speakeasy.net's speed test page and gauge it that way. I have gotten consistent 18-22mbps before.
went to speakeasy
and got 37mbps...got damn!!!
Cool!
I've noticed they've been spot testing here and there in Sac. Where abouts did you test your LTE?
Just noticed this today. I am getting 28 mbps in my backyard in West Roseville.
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how are you guys getting the 4g? i am in south sac and all i see is 3g lol
Had 4g in Davis for about an hour but then they shut it off =( is it still up.in sac? I'm assuming they were doing some "testing" before the June 16th date.
Got 4g here in Rancho Cordova been on since 2pm 12 hours in I'm getting 20 down and 20 up
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Interesting. I had 4G on my drive from Roseville to Natomas for work like usual, but once I got into my office, it went down to 3g.
Otherwise, I stayed on 4g instead of my wifi at home yesterday. It was great. I can see how it might drain the battery more, but I was also using the phone more than usual
I'm in Sac and noticed 4G since 6/7, it was intermittent at first, but since last night it's been steady. Speeds have been fluctuating, maybe they're tweaking it.

Maybe Sprint is Upgrading 3g

So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
It would be nice, I have never seen 3G speeds on any CDMA network in my area above 500k - including Verizon, I actually see better more consistent speeds with Sprint than VZW.
I have my doubts though, living in the sticks really does have advantages, but stuff like this sucks.
I just did the speed test and on 3g i got 2.34mbps down and .64 mbps up. Those are pretty standard numbers for me. I do have an airave at home so don' know if that is making a difference.
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
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My bad, I did not have my glasses on. 2.8Md/1.4Mu (missed some zeros). All Networks are improving 3G (the currently majority of their base model phones) by using different forms of compression for greater speeds. Oh well..........
I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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My data connection is suddenly being very intermittent, too.
I'll try updating my PRL and Profile.... See if that helps at all.
My websurfing is flaky as heck, my Google Talk connection keeps going in and out (and taking a long time to re-login) and I can't seem to update the Android market.
I had just run the "supercharger v6" script, but that shouldn't affect my data connection.... right????
Well let's hope for the best. I'm getting full bars everywhere in Anaheim, CA and speed is constant. I just watched my first youtube video without a single hiccup on 3G
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3g improvements
radrian92 said:
So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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3g in my house is usually ~1mb down / 700kb up or so..
Just did a test - 300kb down / 500kb up. This is in the suburbs of san francisco..
(I think we're feeling the iphone saturation..)
I used to get ~1mbps down but in the least three months I've only been getting 30-150 kbps down and 30 kbps up. Totally unusable.

Improved 3g speeds went away

I was one of the lucky ones that got vastly improved 3g a week ago. Now, not so much. Speeds are back to the way it used to be... I hope it only means they're still working on things here south of Chicago. Except, 4g speeds are suffering now too. 1mbps for 3g has gone down to 200kbps and 10mbps 4g is now 1mbps.
I too was experiencing extremely too good to be true speeds of about 1500-1800kbps here in upstate NY, and as of late i hang around 150kbps the way its been for the last 9 months. I am also constantly jumping from 3g, 1x to no data what so ever. I hope that just means they are still fixing the issue...
My slight speed increase went away as soon as the evening came and they were back to normal which is unuseable
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Mine did too from 2.7mps to 1.5 mps grr
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U guys sure ur checking ur speeds at the same time of day as you did before? That makes all the difference btw
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Yeah, I've actually checked a few times throughout different times of the days. And I've also gotten 1x in areas i normally don't but with full bars of service. I really didn't notice the difference until today though with the exception of the random 1x service.
Still have improved speeds after the *mystery update* here.
Strange, i've been getting frequent 1x switchovers in houston texas.. I was peaking at 2.2 mbps on 3g
Here near Houston I am having wacky 3g speeds.. Blazing one moment and crawling the next.. Consistent 3g though.
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Maybe they rolled it out to test its work load capacity for data gathering, then reverted back for further analysis? Just a guess. I do envy you guys though. Still get 96 down in these woods.
Maybe someone unplugged their airrave lol
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david914 said:
I too was experiencing extremely too good to be true speeds of about 1500-1800kbps here in upstate NY, and as of late i hang around 150kbps the way its been for the last 9 months. I am also constantly jumping from 3g, 1x to no data what so ever. I hope that just means they are still fixing the issue...
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I'm in upstate too, it's absolutly insane how much it's been jumping around lately. In Johnstown/Amsterdam area it's not too bad, but out in Schenectady/Rotterdam area it's all over the place, one minute I'm getting almost 2mb's then BAM 2kb/sec(no joke I had a speedtest come up as that).
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I'm in upstate too, it's absolutly insane how much it's been jumping around lately. In Johnstown/Amsterdam area it's not too bad, but out in Schenectady/Rotterdam area it's all over the place, one minute I'm getting almost 2mb's then BAM 2kb/sec(no joke I had a speedtest come up as that).
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i am much further south than u r, but maybe there is some hope, about a week ago i thought things were "fixed" i cant take this any more.
How do we know if our phones have updated without us knowing it. Is it a software version or something we can check?
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Improved speeds went away for me too as far as I can tell. One thing I've noticed is 1x in areas I've never had issues in and its not just my phone either. My girlfriend's evo 4g shift (bone stock, still unrooted) is doing the same in the same areas.
4G perfect, standing still it drops to 1x then back to 3g and then eventually to 4g. The strange part is while this happens I have full signal.
So far this has happened in downtown Orlando, FL and over in Conway area (for you other Orlando XDA ppl)
It happens more indoors at my house (until the update, never hit 1x at my house) when signal goes down to 2-3 bars over the past 24hrs. It happened a lot Friday out in the open in an error that I've never dropped below 3G (and even then, very rarely).
Anyone else noticing this in the Orlando area? Sprint says there are no known network issues.

Am I the only one?

Am I the only one who has noticed poor 3G on this phone? Even poor for sprint standards. Especially at places where I normally get my best data I'm getting piss poor and even going into roaming. My desk at work is usually where I get my best speeds and now I can barely send a text message. I've only had the phone for a week but since I've got it 3G has been awful and even WiFi hasn't been spot on... I fails a lot dropping signal if my screen turns off for to long which sucks when I'm downloading a Rom or something of the sort, and before you ask I do have it set to keep WiFi on while the screen is off. I love the phone and would hate to get rid of it because I can't use it. So hopefully its not just me maybe sprint has something going in my area that started the moment I got my phone... I'm in Orlando, FL and I'm running stock with root
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Call sprint, check for tower upgrades in your area.
Make sure your updating your prl and profile too
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Naw ur not the only one....with all the upgrades to both the 3g and 4g LTE my 3g has been hit and miss.....good some days and bad others....hopefully it'll all get corrected real some only saving grace for me right now is wi-fi
Underlying idea is, its not the phone... its the network.
Past experience doesn't guarantee present performance
MIne is working well.
Wifi is performing very good for me, and the other day at my apt around 6pm i got 1.9megs down.. 3G..
Its a tower that has been upgraded but still have yet to stay connected to 4G longer then a minute..
No there is an issue...I had a moto photon that was very fast on 3g.....when i switched to the evo lte...i noted it seem to be a lot slower...figure it was the network
Well i went back on my photon while i unlock the evo....and again the photon just flys compared to the evo....there is an issue..a big one
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Well I switched from the E3D to the ELTE and I gained on 3g speeds.. I can tell a diff in speed . I got a taste of LTE yesterday for about 5 hrs and it is very noticeable fast over WiMAX .
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3G

Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
i have kno problems with this phone.. its perfect for me im just bored with it... i need a new phone every 6 months i think!!! lol..
I'm hoping the following review is incorrect:
The ugly:
This is where the phone starts to fall apart for me. The network capabilities are awful. They are a clear downgrade from my Evo 4g. I live in Kansas City, and my old Evo 4g had both excellent 3g coverage, and excellent WiMax coverage. Ping times were the only problem I had with WiMax (typically in the 200-300 range), but I typically got 3-7Mbps down and ~1Mbps up with very reliable coverage, especially in my home. Outside of WiMax range, I reliably got 3g coverage that pulled ~1-2Mbps down and up. This is what I would expect, given that I am in Sprint's home market.
I upgraded to the Evo 4g LTE after hearing that LTE was officially "live" in Kansas City. Unfortunately the news that I missed was that by "live", they really mean "about 30% live". There is little to no actual LTE coverage in the city. At my apartment, where WiMax was previously very strong, I can only connect to LTE rarely, and when I do the signal is so weak that my connection times out regularly. Watching antenna strength, the LTE connection sits around -115 to -120dBm (in non-technical terms, that is just a hair above zero bars). I actually disabled the LTE antenna on my phone because it is disruptive FAR more often than it is useful.
"So what", you might say. "Just use 3g". I would agree with you. 3g should be able to get me by in the next few months while Sprint continues their LTE rollout, hopefully with an antenna near my home. Unfortunately the phone's 3g antenna is also highly problematic. 3g signal pickup is weaker than my old Evo 4g, and speeds are considerably worse than my previous phone. Pings usually sit around 200, which is acceptable, but I almost never get above 0.5Mbps down, or up. Additionally (and even more importantly), the phone has a habit of dropping the 3g signal. I tether often, and when I do I tend to lose 3g every few minutes. This is in close proximity to a 3g tower, and with a strong signal (4-5 bars, in the -70 to -80dBm range). The phone will just inexplicably lose 3g connectivity. Google around a bit and find out: this is a known problem that many people are dealing with, and HTC/Sprint have acknowledged the issue and are trying to rectify it. Problem is, it isn't fixed. I truly hope that in the near future an OTA update will fix the problems... after all, I'm basically stuck with this phone for the next 23 months. The network issues are bad enough that I really do miss my old Evo 4g, and I'm very tempted to reactivate it.
Conclusion: at the end of the day, the Evo 4g LTE is a phone, and as such I think the network issues are a pretty big deal. If you are on WiFi constantly, then they won't be an issue for you, but if you're dependent upon Sprint's network in any way, be very careful... this phone has some major baggage.
Update 9/25/2012: A couple OTA updates later, and it is still in pretty bad shape. I am very used to 500ms+ ping now, and 0.1Mbps download/upload speeds. 4g coverage is still nonexistant. According to xda and s4gru, this problem is SPECIFIC TO THE EVO 4g LTE. As in an iPhone 5 and SGIII will both connect just fine to 4g, but an Evo in the same room will not.
Try this neat trick: Go to craigslist and search for Evo 4g LTE. See how many nearly new Evos are being sold for less than half the price of a new one? That speaks more volumes than my review does
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http://wireless.amazon.com/customerreviews/B007ZUN6GS/ref=cr_detail_histogram_top
These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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I sure would like to know before I upgrade to this device.
TravisBean said:
Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
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My 3g has been much better than my old HTC Hero and better than my Dad's og Evo(not to mention my mom's Samsung Nexus S, My brothers' Samsung, Motorola, and my sister's iCrap 4s).
As long as you stick to stock based roms, you'll be fine. HTC has some great tweaks that cm10 and aosp roms don't have that seem to boost bandwidth and 3g speeds.
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Test it out. Set a timer for 13 days just to be sure.. Thats why carriers give you the 14 day trial period to make sure your happy before being stuck 2 more years with them.
I for one am happy with my EVO LTE. I also have a GS3 and from time to time go back and forth.
I had a chance to spend about 3 minutes with this device today at the Sprint store. Love at first sight. I can't put into words how elegantly this phone felt in my hand.
Didn't have time to check out the 3g connectivity, but call quality did seem above average for a Sprint phone.
Can you download a larger format dial pad for this phone (that works properly) ?
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I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
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I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
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Are you saying you're getting 3-5 Mbps download speeds while connected to 3G?
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