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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
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My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
Hi guys just wanted to say my galaxy s2 is officially busted. Its still in working order do not get me wrong but something wrong with the hardware i think because i have flashed so many roms and stock roms to try and resolve the problem and i cant. My display is always sky high in battery usage and i cant get it down to save the life of it. Got everything on the lowest that is brightness settings and still nothing. Spoken to samsung and they say its not suppose to be like that and that display always high and as high as 60% is not right.
What can i do please cause i love the phone and it really pisses me off that it gets drained so bloody quickly? Shall i just sell it and get an HTC sensation instead or shall i send it to Samsung and be patient for ten days without my phone
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Hi guys just wanted to say my galaxy s2 is officially busted. Its still in working order do not get me wrong but something wrong with the hardware i think because i have flashed so many roms and stock roms to try and resolve the problem and i cant. My display is always sky high in battery usage and i cant get it down to save the life of it. Got everything on the lowest that is brightness settings and still nothing. Spoken to samsung and they say its not suppose to be like that and that display always high and as high as 60% is not right.
What can i do please cause i love the phone and it really pisses me off that it gets drained so bloody quickly? Shall i just sell it and get an HTC sensation instead or shall i send it to Samsung and be patient for ten days without my phone
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Id say just wait for the new phone, the galaxy s II obliterates the Sensation. This coming from a person who's owned both devices.
About your display problem, sounds pretty weird never heard of an issue like that before.
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Hi guys just wanted to say my galaxy s2 is officially busted. Its still in working order do not get me wrong but something wrong with the hardware i think because i have flashed so many roms and stock roms to try and resolve the problem and i cant. My display is always sky high in battery usage and i cant get it down to save the life of it. Got everything on the lowest that is brightness settings and still nothing. Spoken to samsung and they say its not suppose to be like that and that display always high and as high as 60% is not right.
What can i do please cause i love the phone and it really pisses me off that it gets drained so bloody quickly? Shall i just sell it and get an HTC sensation instead or shall i send it to Samsung and be patient for ten days without my phone
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What is your average display "Time on" on "Battery usage" when you're almost running out of battery?
How quickly does it drain? Don't you have warranty to get it replaced if it's actually faulty? I can't really decide if that's the case from your non-sense post.
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. My display is always sky high in battery usage and i cant get it down to save the life of it. Got everything on the lowest that is brightness settings and still nothing. Spoken to samsung and they say its not suppose to be like that and that display always high and as high as 60% is not right.
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My display is high as well with android Os in second most of the time and its normal, cause I use the phone a lot so obviously the screen will be high.
I get around 13-17 hours heavy usage so am happy I dont think its anything to do with rom flashing unless you get lower then 10 hours battery life
sorry i should of made it more clearer. Once i charge my handset as soon as i start using it you can see the percentage drop rapidily. i go into the battery usage and the display is at its highest and draining the battery. And that is with brightness to low settings. If i do not use the phone it can last me for a whole day and a half. But im to scared to use it for browsing and thats over wifi cause i know it will not last me to long...i know the handset is a battery drainer but come on the display should not be as high as it is..and with the warranty i have put the stock rom back so can they find out still that i had my handset rooted if i was to send it in
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sorry i should of made it more clearer. Once i charge my handset as soon as i start using it you can see the percentage drop rapidily. i go into the battery usage and the display is at its highest and draining the battery. And that is with brightness to low settings. If i do not use the phone it can last me for a whole day and a half. But im to scared to use it for browsing and thats over wifi cause i know it will not last me to long...i know the handset is a battery drainer but come on the display should not be as high as it is..and with the warranty i have put the stock rom back so can they find out still that i had my handset rooted if i was to send it in
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If you get two hours with screen on, than that's normal and not a hardware failure. Use white backgrounds as little as possible.
Apparently they could, I believe they some kind of count record of the amount of roms you have flashed and the only way to reset is by using a 'JIG' if you search the forums should be able to find more info on the 'JIG'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522&highlight=jig+to+reset+counter
you might try some of the other forums about reseting it
Looks like SAMOLED+ consume most power on SGS2. I thought it's normal. Just know mine also having the same problem.
Sucks to be the guy who receives all these problems. I suggest, you just get a refund, as you should be ashamed of yourself if you sell a defective SGS2.
If you like the sensation, get it. It's also good, as I usually borrow it from my sister when we feel like exchanging phones for a few days. Sensation's default battery life is a little worse than the SGS2, as I only get 18hrs-1d 4hrs in the Sensation(still not rooted/default ROM) against the 1d - 1d 10hrs of the SGS2(Leomar ROM + Ninphe 2.2/undervolted).
My sister just got those chichitec 1900mAh batteries, and she said battery life on the Sensation improved(Only her word, as we have yet to exchange phones again this weekend). Now, all it needs is an undervolt + good ROM and the Sensation's battery should last a longer if not the same than the SGS2. Though you'll surely miss the SAmoled+ quality if you compare it with the SLCD of the Sensation, hope HTC improve on this department, they should have used IPS instead of SLCD.
A little tip if your getting the Sensation, is to thoroughly check its touchscreen sensitivity. My Sensation, is a little buggy sometimes, sense lagging/resetting + weird touch sensitivity. Though, I think it should be fix by flashing a good ROM + Kernel. Good Luck.
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Looks like SAMOLED+ consume most power on SGS2. I thought it's normal. Just know mine also having the same problem.
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well im going to fully charge it again today and see how it goes. i have reverted back to stock rom and just rooted with chainfire kernel and installed titanium backup and unistalled all the samsung hubs and froze the wifi sharing bit. but my display is still high but i see how long i can get out of it i will post a screen after i let it drain down ..
and sorry to hear that you are having the same problem.
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My display is high as well with android Os in second most of the time and its normal, cause I use the phone a lot so obviously the screen will be high.
I get around 13-17 hours heavy usage so am happy I dont think its anything to do with rom flashing unless you get lower then 10 hours battery life
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what is your display percentage and how can you manage to get so many hours out of it? any tips? i will be posting screen shots tomorrow for you guys to see what im talking about
If you have been using the phone the screen will always be #1 on the list, as its the part that needs the most power.
The phone will get about 6-8h of screen on time total before the battery is flat, but it will depends on mobile coverage (weak coverage will drain faster), if you are using heavy data, wifi usage (will be better than using mobile data on a weak signal or if you are pushing a lot of data round).
Generally radios will eat up the juice.
Also games will hurt.
You can use CPUspy to see what states the CPU is in, and if its going to deep sleep.
Also in settings > about phone > battery use, you want the awake and screen on lines to match up as much as you can.
(Music will keep the phone awake while the screen is off, and so will downloading stuff etc)
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The truth is, that what you report as a problem, is not a problem, it is simply a fact. SAMOLED displays drain batteries like hell. Mine does exactly the same. Like you, I was starting to think that my unit was somewhat faulty, but soon fund out that it was not. In fact, the truth is that the galaxy s2, if left on with the acreen at normal brghtness, fully drains its battery in a matter of 5 hours or so. It is due mainly to the display draining something like 0.8 Watts, alone.
People saying they get almost 2 days use simply tell bullocks, because there's no way of actually using this phone and getting more than about 15 hours autonomy from its battery.
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Samsung support/RMA process has worked very well for me. Third phone already. Maybe ask them to replace yours?
I'm still confused over there. You're just talking without making any sense at all. The only thing I've got from all this is that you're complaining about display being the highest on the battery drain list. That means nothing. Or not much at least. Those values need to give a total of 100%, so if you're using your phone, and display is the highest, your phone is working really good, and you don't have the AOS bug. Which means your device is not faulty, you just don't understand the battery statistics screen. Pardon me if I understood your problem wrong, but if I didn't, just carry on with your life, your phone has no problems at all. I get around 1.5 days with medium usage, and I think that's normal for a phone like this.
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I'm still confused over there. You're just talking without making any sense at all. The only thing I've got from all this is that you're complaining about display being the highest on the battery drain list. That means nothing. Or not much at least. Those values need to give a total of 100%, so if you're using your phone, and display is the highest, your phone is working really good, and you don't have the AOS bug. Which means your device is not faulty, you just don't understand the battery statistics screen. Pardon me if I understood your problem wrong, but if I didn't, just carry on with your life, your phone has no problems at all. I get around 1.5 days with medium usage, and I think that's normal for a phone like this.
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You are not being rude at all. I have flashed yesterday batistas new rom and using jeffrey speedfrey kernel and i have fully charged the phone and calibrated it as well. I am going to let it die down and recharge it again to the max and see how it goes after that as well. My point of this though is as below on the screenshot. The display is always in that percentage and that is what has me worried. I have checked on other posts and the most that they get is 35 to 50%. I have the lowest brightness settings and it still that high..That is why i am asking if there is something wrong with my phone. I am getting good battery life so far just with medium usage and having wifi on since i have charged it but the display is what worries me. If someone could help me with these pointers as well i would appreciate it:
Does underclocking with Setcpu help battery life even more?
And what do you guys think of the screenshot?
i know this sounds silly but how does someone close a thread once they opened it i have a few i want to close..
Thanks again to everyone for you help..
It has dropped to 76% after 10 hours and a couple hours of screen usage. I don't think that there is a problem.
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It has dropped to 76% after 10 hours and a couple hours of screen usage. I don't think that there is a problem.
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why is my display % so high though that is what im questioning. its not just for a few minutes its as soon as i get the phone out of sleep the display percentage sky rockets. and its that much cause the phone was asleep overnight
Well, this question is for my lucky friends who have their new toys
Battery life is so good?
Post your test here!
Don't have screens for ya but battery life is more than adequate. My gf and I used it for about 5 hrs last night and it dropped to about 45%
(Games, xda, Netflix, and just tinkering around)
I'm curious what kind of battery life you folks are seeing, now that you all have had time to get some real world experience with the NT.
Thanks!
10 hours of continuous usage with 25% brightness.
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Yea, the battery life and responsiveness of the device is definitely top notch.
I'm pissed as hell the bootloader is locked, but this device is an absolute steal for $250 bucks. Especially if you can manage to discount that price down.
Extremely responsive and awesome battery life considering I'm running max brightness and wifi 24/7.
I'm always surprised when I'm done using the Nook that it was still running. Granted, I ran it until it had only had around 20% left. But hey, if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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... if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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Good book, nice day, under a tree? Done that many times just reading off my PDA.
Thanks for the feedback!
The battery life is definitely adequate.
I can usually go 2 day without charging thus far. I keep brightness at ~20% or so (I can't stand brighter, it actually bothers my eyes).
I also use multi-picture-live-wallpaper and it doesn't seem to drain my battery at all.
I do some pretty heavy use of it as I am reading on it and studying for med school for probably ~6 hours at a time
Battery life is great. BN's numbers seem dead on.
Lasted the flight from San Francisco to Sydney
I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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Yeah, it definitely turns wifi off on its own when sleeping
Yeah Ill echo the comments here, battery life is absolutely superb and the responsiveness of the unit for the price is fantastic. Sadly its a case of if only B&N....to fully realize what the tablet would be capable of.
I have to agree that battery life is amazing on this thing.
I've got wifi turned off full time (to avoid updates from B&N) and the battery just seems to last forever. Granted you always use less battery when you're not going online, but still, it seems to really really last.
Frankly it's making my phone quite jealous.
Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
Anything i could do to tune it up a bit? I do noticed amazon appstore is always running, so is clock, contact, tb, and my yahoo mail app. Any help is appreciated.
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Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
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That sounds about what I'm getting and I'm wondering whether it's defective or not (still within return window).
edit: Probably normal - ran into some threads on B&N's boards where other people are averaging 5-7 hours. If I idle / read, I get about 1% every 8-10minutes or so so B&N's time estimates were definitely not "video," "browsing" or "games." Wifi on, installing or rebooting a few times, it drops to 5-6 hours tops between 100% and close to 0%.
My phone gets -way- more time, even reading.
the battery on this is great one of the biggest things going for it. better than my phone for sure.
For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats. Then check for partial wakelocks. That's usually the culprit on my phone. It seems weird some of you are getting half the battery life of the rest of us. Personally I haven't even turned wifi off at all, and also haven't turned my brightness below half.
It's in the google market, it won't show up on the nook. I downloaded it on my phone then used the app share my applications then back up to sd. Upload to dropbox. Then download it with dropbox on your nook.
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For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats.
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I looked at this (and other battery programs), but wasn't sure what they did. Now I sort of do. I'll check it out! Wifi on definitely uses up at least 20-25%ish extra battery, and I *have* been moving a ton of stuff to/from sd cards and uninstalling and rebooting a lot, but the above did seem very short. Too bad there isn't a battery hardware test
Failing those applications it may be worth doing a full reset; Especially since most other owners are reporting MUCH better results.
Before I start nuking things around, I used BetterBatteryStats, check for partial wakelocks, and the highest % is from ActivityManager-Launch, which occupies 0.3% or 5minutes or so since I fully charged it.
Also, i noticed "Wifi Locked" is extremely high, like 89%, whereas wifi On is only 26%. What does that mean?
I'm not fully versed in how Android handles power management. So what should i be looking out for? Thanks!
First of all, let me say thanks to Scott for all of his work on CleanRom. I know there has been a lot of discussion lately in his thread about battery usage. Some people are getting outstanding battery life and some people can't make it more than a few hours. I have been one of the people that can't make it more than a few hours no matter what I do. I did a clean wipe of everything before installing the ROM and have even tried to reinstall. The odd thing is my wife's phone does fantastic with this ROM. I finally decided to test things side by side lastnight. My phone should have had the clear advantage because I turned off all syncing options and froze any apps that had been downloaded just to make sure there was nothing running. Meanwhile, her phone syncs like crazy to facebook, email, etc and also has various apps running like weatherbug. I let them both sit overnight and after ~9hrs here are the stats I measured:
Battery % left : 79% (mine) vs 88% (hers)
Data used overnight: 75kb (mine) vs 744kb (hers)
Time awake: 3min 32sec (mine) vs 9 min 42sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 9hr 19mins (mine) vs 9hr 6min (hers)
Everything points to the fact that I should easily have more life left than hers. I am also attaching a couple of screenshots and the betterbatterystats files to this post. Maybe we can track down why everyone's battery life is so different. Tonight I plan to swap batterys between the phones to try to determine if my battery is the problem.
wow that's pretty good on your wife's phone but horrible for yours especially considering you turned off syncing.
I agree. I have no doubt that her phone could easily still be at 95% or more if I made all of the same adjustments to hers as I did to mine. That is why I am hoping someone on here with more knowledge about this stuff can help to determine what is going on.
It honestly might just be a faulty battery, I was having similar results with mine and my friend's phone, too. I tried multiple ROMs, Kernels, etc. But it slowly got worse and worse to the point that I would go down from 100% to 60% in little over an hour, doing nothing but listening to music with the screen off and auto-sync etc off. I bought a replacement battery, though. And this one is working just fine. You might just be having bad battery luck, or it might be your device, I know some people have returned their Rezounds because of battery life/heat problems, and the replacement generally fixes their woes.
so what did your betterybattery stats report?
Thanks for running this test. It would be very helpful to everyone if you could pinpoint this to a battery difference and I'm waiting to hear your results after the battery swap.
What helped my battery life most was to uncheck the box under "settings -> applications -> start automatically" It has something to do with a task manager. It probably wouldn't explain why your wife's phone does better but it could help both of you get better battery life.
bik- The betterbatterystats file is attached. I see a lot of activity on her phone but very little for mine. The only thing that stands out to me is I have alarmmanager waking my phone for 10 mins and she had it waking hers for only 5 mins. I am not sure exactly what alarmmanager is though.
HTGaming- Thank you for the suggestion but I have already done that as well. I think I have literally turned off everything possible on this phone because it is driving me nuts to burn through battery like this. My OG droid used to us 30% in a day max and now I burn through that in an hour if I am using the phone for anything at all. Pretty much the only thing I had running on the phone lastnight was 4g service which her phone also had.
Another thing you can do to compare the two phones is to install battery monitor widget to see what the drain is on the phones. I used to have decent battery life but ever since the update, it's been worse. The one thing I noticed is that now my phone draws more current when sleeping than it used to. The drain is consistently close to 300ma, whereas before it would be less than 200ma when sleeping.
You have to have the widget on for the monitoring to be active unless you change the preferences.
I swapped the battery's lastnight and here's the results. Hers is still clearly better than mine even though betterbatterystats shows way more activity on her phone again.
Battery % left : 84% (mine) vs 90% (hers)
Data used overnight: 279kb (mine) vs 498kb (hers)
Time awake: 5min 32sec (mine) vs 12 min 8sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 7hr 58mins (mine) vs 7hr 59min (hers)
Someone posted that they saw different PRIs on phones even after the OTA. Do your two phones have the same PRIs?
damnn thats just weird
Im starting to think that some Rezound batches are differently tweaked than others. My first Rezound had great battery, I would stream music for 5-6 hours on 4G and would still be above 60%. My last two however were completely horrible, on 4-5 hours standby it losses closed to 20% with lil to no use. Same settings/apps as my first Rez. I regret returning my first Rezound, it truly was the perfect phone.
There really has to be a reason why some come with a 3.8 V bat. opposed to a 3.7 V. HTC wouldn't just send out two different types of battery for no reason.
You are missing 1 key info in your analysis, which people always seem to leave out when talking about battery life. The screen on time. I see in in the graphs but it's hard to tell the exact number. Because of the 720p screen on our phones, that makes a big difference. When my screen is on, the phone uses up at least 600 ma/hr. That is conservative, usually it is more like 700-800. We'll assume 600 for now. That's 10 ma/minute. Based on the stock battery, that is 0.6% per minute. So having a difference in screen on time of 10 minutes will give you 6% difference in battery life.
i am also unable to go for even most of a day on one battery charge - and i have 3 extra batteries that were from ebay that dont work even that long...
i do notice it when the screen is on the most - yest i used the gps for an hour and a hlaf without plugging the phone in and my battery lasted about 3 hours after that and died....
very bad....
very interested to see if its the phone or not - great work...
I'll try to answer a couple of questions in here. I got very frustrated yesterday so I flashed an ICS rom to see how my phone did with it. It is equally as bad. This morning, I got into work with 97% life, checked my email for about 2 mins and was already down to 90%. I have the screen display set to 30% brightness too. I am amazed that people can used 2-3 hours of display and still have 70% battery after 10 hours. My screen at 30% brightness probably drains 2% per minute. I think tonight I am going to try to install one of the stock RUU's just to check and see if the OTA upgrade possibly didn't install itself correctly.
HTGaming - I will check the PRI's tonight.
Bluesnake - Both phones were purchased the same day so I would guess they are from similar if not the same batch. Both have 3.7 batteries. Infact when I first got my phone, I could have display on auto, sync everything every half hour, use the screen for random browsing throughout the day and still go home with over 70% left. Somewhere along the line my phone has developed some sort of draining problem though and no amounts of clean installs seem to fix it.
b5fan - Both phones were off the entire night. I think screen usage was maybe 10 seconds for both of them. They literally just sat there on the nightstand while we slept and mine drained 2x faster with nothing running while hers ran facebook, email etc.
I checked the PRI on both phones and they are the same. I re-ran the stock RUU tonight so I will see if that makes any difference. I highly doubt it will but I am running out of ideas.
I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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b5fan said:
I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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The screen time was probably just from me getting all of the data off in the morning like the screenshots and battery stats. Her email was on push and my email was set to not sync at all. Basically she had a fully functional phone and mine was set to do nothing which is why the battery drain is so hard to explain.
I did run the stock RUU image lastnight for my phone. I put it in airplane mode overnight and it was at 97% when I got up which is a huge improvement. I took it off airplane mode at 6am today and when I got to work at 7am, it was down to 90% so I guess I am in wait and see mode now. I have no email accounts/facebook accounts/ or anything else setup right now. It is only the stock image so there should be nothing draining battery today.
I can confirm the phone is no better now after the clean RUU install. Let it sit overnight and it was down to 80% this morning. I did not even setup any email accounts or download any apps yet. This is just the stock image from verizon.
So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
Does not sound Normal but display is the largest user of battery( unless one can use the phone with display off
I had as video streaming yesterday for 30+ min from 80% it went to 14%
haven't tried keeping just display on should try that ...test for tomorrow
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So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
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I have my brightness set to 15% and it still sucks about half of my battery use. The display is unfortunately nearly unstoppable when it comes to battery drain. HTC and others are like "BIG PHONE DISPLAY!!!1!111!" we're all like "I can haz batteries?"
That description is the best description of our issue.
But an answer to your question, drop you brightness to as low as you can stand it and if possible try to limit the amount of times you wake the display in a day the juice it requires to turn it on is greater than it needs to sustain the screen on.
I would say yes for the most part. We have a fantastic and power hungry display...the price for greatness?
That being said, its not so bad dropped down to 25% or so, and easily viewable, except if you're outside.
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Alright thanks. I just wanted to make sure my phone wasn't experiencing something that is atypical. Other than that I do love this phone and the developers
It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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I'm not sure I would bother chasing longer battery life with new devices. A lot of those are very optimized use cases -- either all on wifi, all in areas with great signal, or lots of screen on time but they don't mention what brightness. The fact of the matter is the phone has a tiny battery and uses up a lot of power for the display and radios. I get somewhere between 12-16 hours on a stock battery, depending on where I am and how much I use the phone (generally I'm a pretty light user, but I do leave 4G and Bluetooth on all day).