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Hello, I saw somewhere that Galaxy S 2 has two different processors. I bought phone on saturday and I would like to find which processor has my phone? Any advice how to find out? And also,are they same quality or are they different?
Thank you
Google search is amazing, you should try it. Xda has a search feature also. If you got a box with your handset it probably mentions which one also.
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I'm not sure but i heard that the I9103 has the tegra processor but a lcd screen
Don't know if this is right or not
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Quick system info tells you which cpu you have among other things.
Hi I tryed but could not find anything. SO you think I should have Exynos because ihave I9100? Which one is better? I hope they are same.
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I'm not sure but i heard that the I9103 has the tegra processor but a lcd screen
Don't know if this is right or not
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There's rumor about a HongKong version with Tegra 2 1.2Ghz and SAMOLED plus display
Also, the FCC certification records show three different models approved for the US market:
I9100 (FCCID: A3LGTI9100)
I9100T (FCCID: A3LGTI9100T)
I9100G (FCCID: A3LGTI9100G)
I'm assuming the I9100T is the Tegra version, based on the suffix. Nothing in the publicly available docs I've looked at confirms that. The I9100G is new -- it was apparently added to the FCC site earlier today.
3waygeek said:
Also, the FCC certification records show three different models approved for the US market:
I9100 (FCCID: A3LGTI9100)
I9100T (FCCID: A3LGTI9100T)
I9100G (FCCID: A3LGTI9100G)
I'm assuming the I9100T is the Tegra version, based on the suffix. Nothing in the publicly available docs I've looked at confirms that. The I9100G is new -- it was apparently added to the FCC site earlier today.
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Per Engadget/pocketnow, one of those must be a CDMA variant for verizon and Sprint
So I checked info in my phone and processor is 1.2 GHz ARM V7 dual core. No Tegra.I just hope that this processor is good. I think they used ARM for Galaxy S.
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shawt said:
So I checked info in my phone and processor is 1.2 GHz ARM V7 dual core. No Tegra.I just hope that this processor is good. I think they used ARM for Galaxy S.
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Both Tegra and Exynos are of same family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores
They maybe little different in terms of implementation. I believe the Tegra 2 is without NEON instruction sets.
May not be a strictly easy way to compare which one is better. I think the general consensus is Exynos 4210 has overall better performance compared to the Tegra2.
I would think that you have Exynos (atleast I myself would like that).
cheers..
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Per Engadget/pocketnow, one of those must be a CDMA variant for verizon and Sprint
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My guess is that it's the G version. When I looked through the FCC docs last week, it appeared to me that the I9100 & I9100T supported AT&T's set of GSM frequencies, and were, in all aspects pertaining to FCC certification, identical.
I haven't had time to look at the FCC docs for the G version, as they were put up less than 24 hours ago, but if it's a CDMA version for Sprint/Verizon, it should be readily apparent by looking at the list of certification documents (i.e. they mention CDMA frequencies instead of GSM).
Galaxy S vs. Galaxy S2
OK I am quite worry about processor in my Galaxy S 2 now. I checked Galaxy S vs. galaxy S 2. In quadrant system informaton about CPU is this :
Galaxy S
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 2(v7l)
Cores : 1
Architecture : 7
Revision : 2
Galaxy S2
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 1(v7l)
Cores : 1 ... ?!?
Architecture : 7
Revision : 1
So did they used the same processor but just changed speed??? Cores 1 ??? Maybe system info is wrong, but I think this is strange, don't you think???
Maybe thsi program is not made for Android 2.3.3 ?
Do you know which code is for CPU information?
From what I read, Quadrant cannot dual cores, and lists it as one core.
Quadrant reads the LG Optimus 2X dual core as a single core. I presume it is thus for the i9100, and any other dual core 'phone.
I tryed few app from the market and they all read same information.Hopefully I have dual core CPU...
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shawt said:
I tryed few app from the market and they all read same information.Hopefully I have dual core CPU...
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What is the cpu speed on quadrant?
Under system information.
Current freq. : 200 MHz
Max freq. : 1200 MHz
Min freq. : 200 Mhz
Bogo MIPS : 1592.52
shawt said:
OK I am quite worry about processor in my Galaxy S 2 now. I checked Galaxy S vs. galaxy S 2. In quadrant system informaton about CPU is this :
Galaxy S
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 2(v7l)
Cores : 1
Architecture : 7
Revision : 2
Galaxy S2
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 1(v7l)
Cores : 1 ... ?!?
Architecture : 7
Revision : 1
So did they used the same processor but just changed speed??? Cores 1 ??? Maybe system info is wrong, but I think this is strange, don't you think???
Maybe thsi program is not made for Android 2.3.3 ?
Do you know which code is for CPU information?
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Quadrant just gets it wrong, don't worry your S2 is fine and does have a Dual-Core 1.2ghz processor just look at your quadrant result...3000+ you're not going to get that on a stock Kernel from any single core phone are you ?
Hope that helps you
Thank you I had about 3000 just wanted to know what type processor I have in my phone.
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From what I read, Quadrant cannot dual cores, and lists it as one core.
Quadrant reads the LG Optimus 2X dual core as a single core. I presume it is thus for the i9100, and any other dual core 'phone.
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Since KE7, quadrant is reporting 2 cores
well yours is a uk one, so we have the exynos version , which is the superior of the 2
As many of us know, our chipset is already on Turbo to 800mhz. The recommended is 600. Most of us are on the belief that it can still be overclocked... is it possible? Anyone familiar with hardware here?
(It may be a waste of time for developers include it and test a phone being over-overclocked... not to mention probable damage too.)
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As many of us know, our chipset is already on Turbo to 800mhz. The recommended is 600. Most of us are on the belief that it can still be overclocked... is it possible? Anyone familiar with hardware here?
(It may be a waste of time for developers include it and test a phone being over-overclocked... not to mention probable damage too.)
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Dude if u would have done a simple search on ace xda u would have found many threads related to the topic which u trying to get answer..
Anyways coming to ur points ...
Ya its possible...1GHz is the max...and no developer right now its working on overclocking..and that 1 GHz will m make ur battery drain faster.....
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digkong said:
Dude if u would have done a simple search on ace xda u would have found many threads related to the topic which u trying to get answer..
Anyways coming to ur points ...
Ya its possible...1GHz is the max...and no developer right now its working on overclocking..and that 1 GHz will m make ur battery drain faster.....
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No need to be so aggressive sir that would just sound trollish.
"simple search" arrives at a thread of your question about ace overclock, rumor of "1.3 Ghz" but can you include your source?
The chipset we're using, the Qualcomm MSM7227 chipset, is a 600mhz processor which samsung overclocked to 800.. If it's overclocked already at 800 I'm asking if it would be safe to do it further? Since some of us are under the impression that the processor is packaged for 800mhz as original.
it isn't overclocked, it's turbo boosted.
i know that these things are 2 different things.
shailo said:
it isn't overclocked, it's turbo boosted.
i know that these things are 2 different things.
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Weird though it runs "turbo" most of the time in use..
Do you know the difference? Google brings no results.
Qualcomm msm7227 turbo
I actually met a person working in Qualcomm and i had asked him that if the processor on our ace is overclocked or not. He told no. It seems that qualcomm uses a better processor on the chipset whose regualr clock frequency is 800 MHz. I have used a ZTE blade and tried to overclock it and it hangs at 729 MHz and it has msm7227 chipset. Our ace naturally is at 800 MHz so thus AFAIK it can be overclocked
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I actually met a person working in Qualcomm and i had asked him that if the processor on our ace is overclocked or not. He told no. It seems that qualcomm uses a better processor on the chipset whose regualr clock frequency is 800 MHz. I have used a ZTE blade and tried to overclock it and it hangs at 729 MHz and it has msm7227 chipset. Our ace naturally is at 800 MHz so thus AFAIK it can be overclocked
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That is really helpful. X10 Mini Pro uses msm 7227 chipset too and the best people can push is 768 before it freezes... Okay I feel better now, this phone can get 1 Ghz in the future. Awaiting the maturing of the development of this phone!
This may help you..a thread about overclocking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5600295&postcount=1
ok guys i have a question.
i was running the benchmark test call, vellamo mobile web benchemark
wit 2 evos 3d, but at the and of the test i decide to check the device info,
in my the core 1 said that was at max freq 1188 Mhz, min freq 192 Mhz, but in the second one i have 0.
and in my dads(the 2nd evo) it has the same on the 2 cores max freq 1188 Mhz, min freq 192 Mhz, so can some body tell me wtf is going on, and if its there a way to check the cores
yours must have a pentium III.
Sounds like a defective phone, you should exchange it for something with a dual core like a samsung rant.
Yeah dude. I'm sorry.
Sounds like htc really shafted you this time.
It's a good thing vellamo is configured to allow dual core testing or you never would have found out.
Damn. Better call sprint for a replacement.
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relax mine says the same thing. I am sure there will be a bunch of oher people here that it says the same thing. May be it sees as the second core not being active on the phone. I highly doubt if the processor was bad you would not have any stability issue, or HTC purposly locked one core and wanted to screw us.
well i still getting better scores that my dad's phone
el_chamuco said:
well i still getting better scores that my dad's phone
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so you still think you have a single core? sometimes the softwares are flaky and you cant just go by them all the time.
You definitely have a defective phone. Call sprint and tell them you want a Echo.
jdmtsx said:
You definitely have a defective phone. Call sprint and tell them you want a Echo.
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I would ask for an old motorola flip from from the 90's, I heard hey were so thick because they had lots of cores.
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so you still think you have a single core? sometimes the softwares are flaky and you cant just go by them all the time.
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but it must be something wrong cux i un=install it and reinstall it n its till the same sh*t in my phone
Our phones are really just running the snapdragon 205, HTC duped us all.
Mine says the same thing.... I'm sure it's the app... The benchmarks I got couldn't be from a single core lol
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damn my core must be fast. I am scoring almost the same as every evo 3d and sensation. I wish the software said i had two of them, it might be faster. HAHA
this is the best thread
I checked mine it said core one: max 1188 and min 192
Core two: max 0 and min 0
Normal
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but thats **** up that this app is ****ing around like that cuz i think that is made by the guys that make the processor in this phone
el_chamuco said:
ok guys i have a question.
i was running the benchmark test call, vellamo mobile web benchemark
wit 2 evos 3d, but at the and of the test i decide to check the device info,
in my the core 1 said that was at max freq 1188 Mhz, min freq 192 Mhz, but in the second one i have 0.
and in my dads(the 2nd evo) it has the same on the 2 cores max freq 1188 Mhz, min freq 192 Mhz, so can some body tell me wtf is going on, and if its there a way to check the cores
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what app are you using....i wanna check mine
pimp100500 said:
what app are you using....i wanna check mine
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vellamo mobile web benchemark its in the market
el_chamuco said:
but thats **** up that this app is ****ing around like that cuz i think that is made by the guys that make the processor in this phone
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Qualcomm made the app but it works on any device with android 2.0 and up regardless of the processor
Hi,
I want to see the power of Snapdragon 800 in terms of chess engine copmutation - droidfish chess app (stockfish 4). Usually on my Note 2 i get ~800knps, galaxy s4 got ~1000knps and i wonder if this new powerful phone as all say it will pass 2000knps mark...
All you need to do is to install droidfish (free) from google play store. Configure it to use 4 cores ("threads" section) - then pick some random chess positions and press 'M' and "Analyze" - that runs the stockfish chess engine to evaluate your position - look at the bottom of the screen - the eval line there contains the knps number (kilo nodes per second) - pls publish it. The higher the better...-
Thanks
From the new game position I'm getting nps: 171k
Verizon LG G2
Hope this helps
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171k is too low and does not make sense...
Please make sure you configured 4 cores in "threads" section. Also - move some pieces to let it work...
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171k is too low and does not make sense...
Please make sure you configured 4 cores in "threads" section. Also - move some pieces to let it work...
TheBenzinator said:
Hi,
I want to see the power of Snapdragon 800 in terms of chess engine copmutation - droidfish chess app (stockfish 4). Usually on my Note 2 i get ~800knps, galaxy s4 got ~1000knps and i wonder if this new powerful phone as all say it will pass 2000knps mark...
All you need to do is to install droidfish (free) from google play store. Configure it to use 4 cores ("threads" section) - then pick some random chess positions and press 'M' and "Analyze" - that runs the stockfish chess engine to evaluate your position - look at the bottom of the screen - the eval line there contains the knps number (kilo nodes per second) - pls publish it. The higher the better...-
Thanks
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I'm getting between 460k - 490k nps with four threads.
I'm getting 491k with four threads
paffinity said:
I'm getting between 460k - 490k nps with four threads.
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Very weird...Can't be my Note 2 is stronger in that.
Can you try this position - let it run 10 seconds on it. Maybe it is somehow limited so you need to enlarge hash table size..?
Clock starts high then throttles down to 1200 or so, knps at 411 now.
WPWoodJr said:
Clock starts high then throttles down to 1200 or so, knps at 411 now.
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Very Very low. For my position i attached it is steady @ 700knps. IF that is true it is very very bad performance.
TheBenzinator said:
Very Very low. For my position i attached it is steady @ 700knps. IF that is true it is very very bad performance.
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What is your score from starting position?
TheBenzinator said:
Very Very low. For my position i attached it is steady @ 700knps. IF that is true it is very very bad performance.
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Look at this thread - someone complained similar issue on S4 4 cores version (Snapdragon throttling issue??)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264209
Please check when using 4 cores - what's the actual cpus speed....!?
WPWoodJr said:
What is your score from starting position?
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~650knps (again, galaxy note 2, 4 cores, hash table size does not change anything)
TheBenzinator said:
Look at this thread - someone complained similar issue on S4 4 cores version (Snapdragon throttling issue??)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264209
Please check when using 4 cores - what's the actual cpus speed....!?
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As I said before, it seems to throttle CPU speed down to 1200 after a little bit.
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As I said before, it seems to throttle CPU speed down to 1200 after a little bit.
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So 4 cores can't run at 2.26GHz all together....What a shame..
BTW, which tool do you use to see all cpus speed?
Can you check if setting threads to 1 - if it runs at 2.26GHz? Since i get also 171k (starting game position) on 1 thread on weaker cpu....
UPDATE: Just checked with System Monitor App - no cpu speed down on note 2 even regardless number of cores used (1 core runs @ 1.6GHz, 4 cores runs at 1.6GHz (each) either...)
Looks to me like a bug in Snapdragon 600/800 in this kind of load. I never saw LG claim they can't run all 4 cores at 2.26GHz each.
I am using System Panel. When I set threads to 1 it oscillates between 1200 and 2200.
I have seen up to 609k since rebooting.
My Nexus 7 (2012) is a bit slower.
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WPWoodJr said:
I am using System Panel. When I set threads to 1 it oscillates between 1200 and 2200.
>> Probably this is an issue. On my note 2 using System Panel when i set to 1 thread it is steady on 1600.
I have seen up to 609k since rebooting.
>> 4 cores 609k you probably mean (not 1 core)
My Nexus 7 (2012) is a bit slower.
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I am contacted also to Droidfish programmer to check this weird behavior - maybe this is related somehow to the SW behavior but i doubt it...
Yes I meant 609 on 4 cores.
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Yes I meant 609 on 4 cores.
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This is screenshot of cpus clock speed on my note 2 which look good as expected (constatly set to max clock rate on each core)
So if we gather all finding so far - the version of galaxy S4 that uses octa-core (NOT snapdragon) also performed WELL on 4 A14 cores - result was ~900-1000knps which is good and higher than note 2 as ecpected. Snapdragon 800 should have beaten both...But it performs poorly - and this is real life scenario for chess players...
It all looks like snapdragon issue or droidfish is not optimized to run on snapdragon - don't know. Yesterday I sent emails to LG & Droidfish developer to comment on that since something is wrong here. No response yet.
It's probably a combo of the gov and scheduler. Difference between the 2. From Samsung. This phone doesn't need to ramp up that high to perform better. And gpu takes a lot off it. Your comparing two completely separate arch and govs
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So i was really bored and messing around with the watch and ran an AnTuTu benchmark on it.
8,692 was the score. I I'm on the stock 5.0.1 just rooted.
I've pieced together some screenshots of the score and I'll attach them below.
After turning on all 4 cpus, setting the governor to performance, and changing the gpu governor to performance I got a 16,827.
Pointless but fun.
Really bored, weren`t you?
reb1995 said:
After turning on all 4 cpus, setting the governor to performance, and changing the gpu governor to performance I got a 16,827.
Pointless but fun.
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i was unaware that the g watch was quad core i thought it was a lousy dual or single core. strange that the Galaxy live has a little powerful single core.
Trozzul said:
i was unaware that the g watch was quad core i thought it was a lousy dual or single core. strange that the Galaxy live has a little powerful single core.
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Quad-core Cortex-A7 1.2GHz, but only one core is online and its locked at 0.7GHz.
ruben46_ said:
Really bored, weren`t you?
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Very bored....
Trozzul said:
i was unaware that the g watch was quad core i thought it was a lousy dual or single core. strange that the Galaxy live has a little powerful single core.
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Yeah the Snapdragon 400. Not sure what the Gear Live is though but I think it is also the Snapdragon 400.