Question regardibg CWM recovery mod - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a basic question about the CWM recovery mod using fastboot. I just loaded the updated .img file with no problems. All works great! My question is do I have to delete the first .img file? Can we just keep loading updated. Img files using fastboot without ever deleting the old files? Won't it take up more space?
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Everytime you flash a new img file to the phone, it overwrites the "img file" on the phone. So no, you don't need to delete the older one. Hope that explains it.

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possible recovery files?

so.. i was going through some folders i have saved on my HDD.
i browse through my android stuffs folder and i have a folder called "stock FW" which contains:
flash_image
recovery-dump-t.img
V10L_00.kdz
i have awful memory and don't remember what these came from/what they are
can anybody help?
Recovery dump is probably a dump of the stock recovery.
And this
ah i see so i have a copy of stock 2.2 rom? haha saves me the trouble of looking for it.
flash_image is the binary used for flashing custom recovery through the shell.
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[Q] Is flashing an update.zip the same as installing a zip?

I have a couple questions about CWM and backups:
Is there a difference between flashing update.zip and installing a zip from the sdcard in CWM?
Also, let's say I make a change to boot.img and system.img and something goes wrong. Instead of flashing the backups of those two images from my computer to my phone using fastboot, can I just place them both in a zip file and install it from CWM? Would I need to include any other files?
How come a nandroid backup makes a system.ext4.tar and not a system.img? How do I turn that into a system.img?
How come I need unyaffs to read cache, data, and system.img files? I thought the filesystem was ext4 and not YAFFS?
Flashing an update.zip looks for a file on the root of your sd called that and flashes it. Installing a zip let's you choose.
You need to put a few more files into the zip. An update script and binary
Update to romracers recovery and you can do an advanced restore just using certain parts of a nandroid.
That recovery also makes.. Img files rather than tars
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marko! said:
Flashing an update.zip looks for a file on the root of your sd called that and flashes it. Installing a zip let's you choose.
You need to put a few more files into the zip. An update script and binary
Update to romracers recovery and you can do an advanced restore just using certain parts of a nandroid.
That recovery also makes.. Img files rather than tars
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So I found some links about the update-script and I'll be reading those shortly, but after skimming them I didn't see any mention of the binary. Is the binary an executable version of the same script or something else? Any links?
So what your saying is I could just skip the update.zip stuff, extract the images from the zip, and use advanced restore to flash each image? Obviously more work but it's good to know if these two processes are equivalent.
Actually, I just made a recovery using romracer's CWM and boot and recovery are .img files while cache, data, and system are ext4.tar files. pds is .ext3.tar and .android_secure is .vfat.tar. So do you really get system files as .img files? And if so, what's wrong with my CWM? If not, the original question holds: why doesn't CWM make an image of each partition, and instead use a tar? For compression? How would I make this a flashable .img file?
And also the last question about ext4 and YAFFS is still there. Thanks.
Most of those I'm really not sure. The update binary is the same for every zip. Just grab it from a rom or theme
I would go with the cwm zips. Way easier once you get them working.
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gsingh2011 said:
Actually, I just made a recovery using romracer's CWM and boot and recovery are .img files while cache, data, and system are ext4.tar files. pds is .ext3.tar and .android_secure is .vfat.tar. So do you really get system files as .img files? And if so, what's wrong with my CWM? If not, the original question holds: why doesn't CWM make an image of each partition, and instead use a tar? For compression? How would I make this a flashable .img file?
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I was just looking at this too. My old recoveries from before atrix4.1 was released were all .img files and the post atrix4.1 backups are .ext3.tar (except for boot.img and recovery.img). I'm on a stock deodexed GB ROM, so I don't have any ext4 partitions. I think he changed this with the newest update so CWM can recognize the ext type and mount them appropriately.
This post should hopefully clarify a bit more than I can. I'm relatively new to all this so I'm still learning different aspects of modding. I'm guessing you have some ext4's because you're running one of the newer custom ROM's?

Rom Kitchen With Checkromv4

Is anyone else experiencing difficulty with the Kitchen in this version? None of the kitchen tweaks will work, they download fine, and it goes thru the regular process of installing, however none of the programs seem to be functioning after installation. Just checking with anyone else before I try re flashing. I did do a full wipe before install.
2.3.6
xxki4
Siyah 2.3
Checkrom V4
The same thing is happening with me. It downloads the files just fine but when it tries to install them, it restarts to the wrong recovery (not clockworkmod). You can see the things fail installing because of the <!> that comes up in the recovery for a split second.
How can we get it working? The only way I've done it is to manually restart to the right recovery, and then manually install each zip.
Reinstall the kitchen app
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Try installing them from recovery, you have to delete or rename the clockworkmod folder on the external sd card in order to install things directly from the kitchen.
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Some of the mods might not work if the kernel is incompatible to those specific mods
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salted_hash in clockworkmod folder
Found the culprit:
Q: I am not able to flash via Kitchen???
A: Delete Clockworkmod folder
Reason:
Previously to make the kitchen flash in older version of CWM5 we need to use a salte hash file that was placed in the Clockworkmod folder, Now with the updated CWM5 the actually problem with CWM5 was fixed by the respective creator!
So now what happens is that all you people have that salted hash file remaining in ur sd card that doesn't allow to flash stuff in the newer better CWM5, thats why when u delete the Folder it stats working coz the salted hash file gets deleted!
Now you may ask why delete the folder, when u can delete the file only!!
LOL answer is simle the Android os never recognizes the file there so when u open myfiles you never find the salted hash file inside the clockworkmod folder! You can use other apps and methods to delete the file but then there is the obvious questions from noobs!!
So Moral the problem is only with that one salted hash file and not ur backup.
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So you can delete the entire folder, or just the "/sdcard/clockworkmd/.salted_hash" file. This worked for me.
Correct just the salted hash needs to go, there's no need to lose your backups. If you do delete the folder next time you do a nandroid it will only get recreated without the salted hash.
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Just to check with you guys. is there any wipe of checkrom available?it appears that there is only the no-wipe version.

[Q] Tool that will install roms using a pc?

Does anybody know of a tool that will install roms using a computer? I just want to be able to use a computer program to install roms without messing around with the phone.
I haven't had much luck with "adb shell recovery --update_package=/sdcard/rom.zip".
Or does anybody know of a way to convert the updater-script files in flashable zips into Windows batch files?
To convert zips into a flashable zip.. You will have to make some edit in "Meta-inf" folder
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To convert zips into a flashable zip.. You will have to make some edit in "Meta-inf" folder
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I'm not looking for flashable zips though. I want to be able to install roms without scrolling around with the volume buttons in recovery. Such as a tool that could take a flashable zip, look at the update-script and then push all the files directly to /system and the other correct partitions via adb.
Well That Would Be Great But Recovery Flashing Isn't Hard And Why Can't You Flash A ROM Using Recovery?
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[Q] Anyone have directions for creating a personal odin tar?

I have been doing a lot of restoring, it would be nice to just be able to push the flash rather than geting an os installed, installing a recovery and then recovering.
I saw something for another samsung device and it involved dd'ing files and then putting them into a tar. but i suspect the /dev/xxxxxx files would be a different name on the GT10.1?
Thanks
Rob
I've tried opening a tar file before, in it was all .img files eg. system.img, boot.img and so on. So my guess is you have to create the .img files, tar them up and flash via Odin.
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I've tried opening a tar file before, in it was all .img files eg. system.img, boot.img and so on. So my guess is you have to create the .img files, tar them up and flash via Odin.
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Right, but they are dumps of the /dev/system|recovery|... file systems from using dd to get a binary image, they are not the files like in a zip. which is why, if my reading is correct, zips actually get processed (extracted and moved) and the files in the odin.tar are binary dumps and they just get splatted back out into the file system like a Norton Gost restore. The trick is knowing which /dev/xxxx/ systems to pickup. I found a link right before leaving for work that seems to suggest if I get rooted and busybody on, I should be able to run an fdsik -l and get a list of the partitions.
I just got the stupid tablet back to stock ICS 4.04 this morning after running updates last night, so I hope to have some time play today.

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