I am only reposting this because I know a lot of people have been talking about wanting this feature. Here is the link to the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140681
If I am "Late to the party" or you want to post the funny fail pictures, that is fine! I just felt this was worth posting. I did not know about it and I am sure others may not as well.
Basically the link talks about using a program called PDAnet Tablet edition. I was familiar with PDAnet but not a wifi version!
We need to stay way under the radar with this, guys.
I'm sure their not crazy about HTC unlocking the bootloader because of this.
Sprint is cracking down....monitoring data use and even sites visited.
Abuse here could be a big factor if Sprint throws up their hands and decides to cap data...which would S U C K.
I've had Bluetooth tether via PDAnet since my Treo 650 many years ago. Maybe I'm the only one but on all the phones I've had since then, I have ALWAYS found Bluetooth tether to be very tricky to set up, cumbersome and unreliable compared to the WiFi tether I FINALLY have on the EVO 4G. I presume the same would apply to the 3D. This is the main reason I haven't made the 4G --> 3D upgrade yet. So for me personally the Bluetooth tether option isn't that grand.
Hijack: does anyone else find it confusing that the 3D phone is newer than the 4G? I have to keep reminding myself...
rockky said:
We need to stay way under the radar with this, guys.
I'm sure their not crazy about HTC unlocking the bootloader because of this.
Sprint is cracking down....monitoring data use and even sites visited.
Abuse here could be a big factor if Sprint throws up their hands and decides to cap data...which would S U C K.
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It's the people who want to download blu ray movies through their phones connection and large files that bog down the network that Sprint doesn't like. You use 30GB+ a month or more and you are certainly going to have some kind of attention. I only use around 4GB and that was with root access on my previous phone. Though I didn't have 4g to tether from on my Epic. I would have much rather used my home network. Saving money is great, but it really affects others so negatively that Sprint may take action at some point if people don't start thinking more about the greater good than their must have for the newest MKV movie from btjunkie. Though I could be wrong.
True this...exactly. regardless...we're still circumventing their hotspot service. Knowing how much my AT&T friends are truly shackled by the cap...I'd consider paying sprint for tethering again!
QUOTE=heathmcabee;15110594]It's the people who want to download blu ray movies through their phones connection and large files that bog down the network that Sprint doesn't like. You use 30GB+ a month or more and you are certainly going to have some kind of attention. I only use around 4GB and that was with root access on my previous phone. Though I didn't have 4g to tether from on my Epic. I would have much rather used my home network. Saving money is great, but it really affects others so negatively that Sprint may take action at some point if people don't start thinking more about the greater good than their must have for the newest MKV movie from btjunkie. Though I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
can i get a clarification of what i should be installing? an apk maybe?
Just search pdanet tablet in the market. Download to tablet as well as phone.
just tried and on my archos 101 it kept telling me to do step 1 even after i completed it
Useing pdanet tablet now....from evo 3d to rooted gtablet runing cm7....a little slow but does work for browsing...does not work for pandora will check netflix and dishnetwork and get back.....ok does not work with anything but browsing.....cant wait for root....
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Hey all... just picked up the Touch Pro the other day and was a little disheartened to see that the tethering functions can be a little troublesome.
In the past, I've used USBModem on a Treo 700p and it worked beautifully via BlueTooth with my Nokia N800. I typically don't use the devices with a laptop/desktop, as it is most often something I'll make use of when I'm out... otherwise, the standard PDANet solutions would be fine.
Soooo... questions are: have their been any solutions figured out by others who may be using a Nokia N800/N810 to tether to, or is the only current option to use the WMWifiRouter software? Even using the registry changes mentioned in other threads, I have had no luck having the Nokia find the Touch Pro - well... it does, but it sees it as being a GSM device, which I haven't figured out either. If the WMWiFiRouter is the only real option, is it known if that software takes any steps to "mask usage" or will I be dealing with Sprint wanting me to get the "phone as modem" package - additionally, if that would be a problem, could the registry modifications help with that?
Any info provided is greatly appreciated. It's the only thing that keeps it from mopping the floor with my previous machine!
//edit: I failed to mention that I am with Sprint, and the USBModem site clearly states that it does not work via BlueTooth with the Sprint service - I don't know if I've done the registry edit and tried USBModem (I don't believe so, but I've tried a fair number of combos and off the wall ideas so far, so I dunno!)
As far as I can tell, the WMWifiRouter does not let Sprint know that you are tethering since in the technical sense of the word, you are not. Pulling the 3G signal down and broadcasting it as wifi is not tethering. Just try not to use gigabytes of bandwidth every month and you should be fine.
Also, WMWifiRouter is the only solution I've found for my Touch Pro (also on Sprint) that actually works. My tethering hacks always failed after 30 seconds or so, and there seemed to be no other solutions out there besides this piece of software.
You make a good point in that it's not tethering in the sense of the word. I suppose I could also rephrase the question to ask if they can spot the activity and, if so, how easily, but it may be beating a dead horse. I did find it to be a reasonable solution outside of it being a bit of a battery drain. I don't use such functions very often at all, and as such have never brought attention to any minor tethering I've done in the past. Hopefully it will stay that way and I won't see a whack of charges on my bill. Cheers!
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Hey all... just picked up the Touch Pro the other day and was a little disheartened to see that the tethering functions can be a little troublesome.
In the past, I've used USBModem on a Treo 700p and it worked beautifully via BlueTooth with my Nokia N800. I typically don't use the devices with a laptop/desktop, as it is most often something I'll make use of when I'm out... otherwise, the standard PDANet solutions would be fine.
Soooo... questions are: have their been any solutions figured out by others who may be using a Nokia N800/N810 to tether to, or is the only current option to use the WMWifiRouter software? Even using the registry changes mentioned in other threads, I have had no luck having the Nokia find the Touch Pro - well... it does, but it sees it as being a GSM device, which I haven't figured out either. If the WMWiFiRouter is the only real option, is it known if that software takes any steps to "mask usage" or will I be dealing with Sprint wanting me to get the "phone as modem" package - additionally, if that would be a problem, could the registry modifications help with that?
Any info provided is greatly appreciated. It's the only thing that keeps it from mopping the floor with my previous machine!
//edit: I failed to mention that I am with Sprint, and the USBModem site clearly states that it does not work via BlueTooth with the Sprint service - I don't know if I've done the registry edit and tried USBModem (I don't believe so, but I've tried a fair number of combos and off the wall ideas so far, so I dunno!)
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How often are you "Tethering" anyway? I honestly don't have any problems using my phone as a modem with the reg edits to modify the connection from "ForceConnection" to "Sprint PCS" and it works great.
I'm not a dedicated "Tetherer" and use it occasionally but have never seen any problems using the Internet Sharing app and the reg edit.
I use it very rarely (at least I think I do)... maybe once or twice every couple of weeks, and I don't use it to download things from the web and whatnot. Typically, I'll access a few sites and that's about it - very limited.
The only problem I ran into with the reg edits was that my Nokia N800 wasn't picking it up via Bluetooth. Using this method, I can just connect to the wireless broadcast.
Hmm, well I usually use the USB cord with mine but I did us the BT DUN on to tether using a MAC and it worked just fine.
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i invested in PDAnet back when i got my Moto q and have never been happier. I get great speeds. download at 300kb/s at times. Their newest version includes options for WiFi setup as well. Definately worth the money IMO.
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i invested in PDAnet back when i got my Moto q and have never been happier. I get great speeds. download at 300kb/s at times. Their newest version includes options for WiFi setup as well. Definately worth the money IMO.
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Would you be willing to do a test with PDANet and the ICS program on our phones?
I'd like to see a comparison of DL speeds fron the same location of PDANet vs. ICS. I have the ICS cab if you are not running it right now if you like.
PDANet would work fine if I were to tether to a desktop or laptop. Problem is, I am almost never in a situation where I need such a thing. If I use it, it's via bluetooth with my Nokia N800 (since it does not support USB hosting of such devices as 'USB modems'). Bluetooth connectivity with both PDANet and USBModem is nil, with USBModem saying that it won't work with Sprint on their page.
I have found that the latest version of WMWiFiRouter (version 1.25 as of writing) works beautifully and I get reasonably speeds with it... since it's an ad-hoc wifi access point, the Nokia likes it. Problem seems to be solved and very reasonable.
My primary concern is tethering, speaker and signal quality.
I realize there is always a batch of folks with issues on any new phone.
But there is a very common theme on the issues listed above.
So I have a few questions regarding before I grab one.
1) Does the "Sticky" Temp Root require a PC to enable it each time. It was not clear if teh PC is only need the first time or every time. If I need to be wired to enable temp root for tethering, I might as well use wired tethering. See question #2. For the rare cases I tether I could probably live with USB wired.
2) Does the USB (wired tethering) require any root? How do you do it, I'd like to confirm with my 4G.
3) I hear a LOT of complaints about the speaker. And LOT of work arounds (that seems 50-50) that folks think it helped. I did compare the ringers in teh store on a 3D with my 4G and they sounded about the same. So I'm curious if there is a batch of defective speakers. It only needs to work 90% as good for navigation. I don't care about Music or Movies.
4) There is a good thread on reseting data which sounds promising regarding signal quality. Likely caused by many phones defaulting to CDMA only. Is it just a DATA quality issue or is there also a call quality issues.
5) Not critical, but I did compare the 3D and 4G camera too and it appears much lower quality for standard 2D.
My gut feeling is I'm crazy to want this phone. But I have the bug to have the latest even if it has a couple issues.
Also if you remove some bloatware with Temp Root. Does the Bloatware come back on reboot?
Bloatware can be removed without root. Simply delete it n it is gone.
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YafaKlan said:
Bloatware can be removed without root. Simply delete it n it is gone.
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False it "hides" its self its not fully gone.. and not all bloatware you can remove
3D > iClone
nate420 said:
False it "hides" its self its not fully gone.. and not all bloatware you can remove
3D > iClone
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You can remove some of the carrier specific pre-installed apps, just as well as you can remove any app from any computing device. Data may still physically reside in sectors and blocks of storage, the space is allocated for your use.
What you cannot remove (as easily) is device mfr apps. e.g. HTC Footprints.
Thanks fir clarifying, nate. Must have been wishful thinking, I guess.
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My primary concern is tethering, speaker and signal quality.
I realize there is always a batch of folks with issues on any new phone.
But there is a very common theme on the issues listed above.
So I have a few questions regarding before I grab one.
1) Does the "Sticky" Temp Root require a PC to enable it each time. It was not clear if teh PC is only need the first time or every time. If I need to be wired to enable temp root for tethering, I might as well use wired tethering. See question #2. For the rare cases I tether I could probably live with USB wired.
2) Does the USB (wired tethering) require any root? How do you do it, I'd like to confirm with my 4G.
3) I hear a LOT of complaints about the speaker. And LOT of work arounds (that seems 50-50) that folks think it helped. I did compare the ringers in teh store on a 3D with my 4G and they sounded about the same. So I'm curious if there is a batch of defective speakers. It only needs to work 90% as good for navigation. I don't care about Music or Movies.
4) There is a good thread on reseting data which sounds promising regarding signal quality. Likely caused by many phones defaulting to CDMA only. Is it just a DATA quality issue or is there also a call quality issues.
5) Not critical, but I did compare the 3D and 4G camera too and it appears much lower quality for standard 2D.
My gut feeling is I'm crazy to want this phone. But I have the bug to have the latest even if it has a couple issues.
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The sticky temp root remains rooted for wifi hotspot action up until you reboot. At that point you will need your pc to reroot.
I don't have speaker issue.
I have noticed slight degrade in call quality. On launch day, call quality and data was terrible throughout San Marcos TX. So far it's gotten better and the data is back to normal speeds. Call quality could be a little better IMO but it's so close to normal it's a non-issue for me.
I think this thing takes better photos than the 4g. The focus and color seems much better.
OC'd to 1.8 ghz this thing is the fastest mobile experience i've ever had.
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The sticky temp root remains rooted for wifi hotspot action up until you reboot. At that point you will need your pc to reroot.
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Thanks for the answers. But if I understand correctly you need to get back to a PC hardwire connection to get Temp root back if you have to reboot.
But it appears there is an APK coming that will allow Temp root without the PC.
One concern I have is, without full root, HTC could force an OTA update and take even temp root away.
I did confirm wired USB Tether works on 4G with no Root (with PDANet).
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Thanks for the answers. But if I understand correctly you need to get back to a PC hardwire connection to get Temp root back if you have to reboot.
But it appears there is an APK coming that will allow Temp root without the PC.
One concern I have is, without full root, HTC could force an OTA update and take even temp root away.
I did confirm wired USB Tether works on 4G with no Root (with PDANet).
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Turn off automatic update?
And pdanet and easy tether works with the EVO 3d
3D > iClone
Not every phone has the issues you stated above.
You do need a pc to reroot after reboot but it takes like 2 minutes tops.
Why use wired tethering. The wireless tether app works fine. You can find that apk in xda. It's posted everywhere. Once you get the app and temp root, just fire up 4g and enjoy data sharing.
You can remove bloatware but to me its sometimes pointless because you never know when your phone may die out on you. When it does everything goes back to normal so that would be left to you to decide what's best. If it helps, it does free up a decent amount of internal memory.
The camera on the 3D is very good. On the 4g its was good also. 8 mega pixels made the pics look kinda grainy also making the pics IMO look HD'ish. Even though I don't see this on the 3D I still wouldn't call it a downgrade.
Developers here on xda have found a way to keep a good number of us satisfied until a more permanent method for root comes along. As stated above, I have my phone overclocked to 1.8 ghz and man I swear my phone drinks red bull without me knowing. It has wings! The good thing about it is, its all done with one click off the mouse. If you decide to grab the 3vo, here's the thread you should check out immediately.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159540
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Pretty much what the title says....details:
I ditched my horrible AT&Trash dsl to tether via my TB (faster speeds and saving $20/mo). Problem is, I recently moved and I have to have my phone right next to the window to get solid and consistent LTE signal, so every time I get a text or something I have to get up to go look at it, cause if I move my phone it'll drop to 3G (that's another issue....whenever it hands off from 4G to 3G I almost ALWAYS have to go into Airplane mode then back out or reboot for my TB to acquire 4G signal again...anyone know a quicker way? I have latest radios....) then my tethering all my but dies and I have to start the whole process over.
I am wondering if there is a way or maybe an app I can get where I can control my phone via my PC wirelessly while tethering.......from what I've read you either have to be connected via usb (window is too far away for that) and/or your pc and phone have to be connected to the same wifi network (which, if I'm tethering and my pc is connected to the internet via tethering to my phone, that isn't really true...is it?)
So.....any ideas?
Thanks much!
This may be of some help for texting. I use bluetooth for calls. I almost have the same situation.
Check out this Android Application I'm using "DesktopSMS" on my Thunderbolt. Check it out here: http://bit.ly/qApcgj
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
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What is it??
htcdesirezgeorge said:
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
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"paying".....is a foreign word to me
So, I'm moving. And my PC doesn't have a WiFi card in it for the time being. Ethernet is out of the question.
I have an unlimited Verizon 4g plan... but I heard they don't let you tether for free anymore over their network with unlimited. (I can use WiFi root tether, but that's beside the point.)
I've tried using the Settings => Usb Tethering option, but stock sense doesn't let you tether without a 4g connection enabled.
Any ideas? (Preferably something without dumb limitations, like no https etc, but beggars can't be choosers.)
Thanks!
-Frankie
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Interesting. Do you have HTC Sync on your pc?
Only way it'll let me do it is if I use data. I'll post screens in a min
See
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See
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I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
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Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
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on PDANET atm with LEVEL II usage hiding and i was able to get into things like paypal with https and what not. So i think it would be fine, i don't have unlimited anymore so i use no hiding but i turned it on to see if it works and it seemed to. Im posting this with it on level II.
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im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Definitely works and will do the trick for now. Thanks man.
The free version kind of blows... I go through the allotted data in like a minute.
Do you notice pretty low speeds, or connection drops when the phone goes to sleep? Do you know if I need to keep it always screen on or something? Or is this the level 2 screening?
Wish there was a way to do this natively without having to do all this, but will work in a pinch. Thanks!
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
reaverclan said:
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
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Thanks bud, yeah it helps. I'll probably end up buying it eventually... WiFi Tether [Root] works fine for WiFi, but for some reason FoxFi scares me. I feel verizon will strip my unlimited away from me while using FoxFi. Not sure why I feel safer using the WiFi root tether app though.
they should be able to tell your tethering with a normal non proxied app. In reality though they can allways tell if they cared but unless your use more than like 6 GB idk they would care if your plan is expensive enough lol.
Yeah, I wish there was another way than pdanet to do it. Wish there was a way to tell if the speeds are just my phone or the free pdanet version.
how low are the speeds on speedtest.net on pc vs on the app on the phone, mine are almost same.
I was.... "Testing" the download speeds through pdanet. Its about 1000Kbs slower through pdanet.
Hi guys if your reading this maybe you can help me. I have an appradio3 that I to be able to cast my screen onto. Now brief background, I used to be on Verizon limited data with a rooted note2 that I direct connected via HDMI. I now have mistakingly switched to att and now i have a new note7 that doesn't have anyway to connect directly to the deck since Samsung has taken it out. Now I've since read about using a Chromecast and casting that way. That's all well and good if and only if you have a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone which I don't and i dont want to pay for the very limited hotspot plan for my phone to do that. Now I'm not opposed to rooting my note7 which I've looked into that but I've got an sm-n930a. And using the Sprint method doesn't work well for my model. Seen a video were a guy did get his tmoblie phone to root but the process was very lengthy. Or I'm not opposed to rooting if possible the Chromecast. I've got both the newer and the older version of that. I've looking briefly through the Chromecast threads and didn't see if once rooted that you could Wi-Fi direct to the CC. Like once your setting it up it Wi-Fi directs to your phone then switches to normal Wi-Fi. Is this possible??? Or if there's any other device that could get this to work with an appradio3 I'll totally try that.
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Hi guys if your reading this maybe you can help me. I have an appradio3 that I to be able to cast my screen onto. Now brief background, I used to be on Verizon limited data with a rooted note2 that I direct connected via HDMI. I now have mistakingly switched to att and now i have a new note7 that doesn't have anyway to connect directly to the deck since Samsung has taken it out. Now I've since read about using a Chromecast and casting that way. That's all well and good if and only if you have a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone which I don't and i dont want to pay for the very limited hotspot plan for my phone to do that. Now I'm not opposed to rooting my note7 which I've looked into that but I've got an sm-n930a. And using the Sprint method doesn't work well for my model. Seen a video were a guy did get his tmoblie phone to root but the process was very lengthy. Or I'm not opposed to rooting if possible the Chromecast. I've got both the newer and the older version of that. I've looking briefly through the Chromecast threads and didn't see if once rooted that you could Wi-Fi direct to the CC. Like once your setting it up it Wi-Fi directs to your phone then switches to normal Wi-Fi. Is this possible??? Or if there's any other device that could get this to work with an appradio3 I'll totally try that.
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I'm guessing after the note 7 recall this issue has "solved" its self... I am curious what you did wind up doing. I have the same App radio 3. I used to mirror my S5 to the thing with a samsung hdmi adapter and had full bluetooth touch controlls. Ever since android started setting selinuix to enforced it has become an issue to emulate touch control from the app radio to the phone. Screen mirriroing alone didnt really make me all that happy since I couldnt make it do much without touching the phone. Do you by chance have any advise on this?
What phone did you go to after the Note 7?
Well unfortunately I've gone to an iPhone 7 plus. Which I'm a droid person at heart and it's been a hard switch. Mainly cause I like the ability to mod the droid over iPhone. That said though the iPhone can still hook up to the AppRadio once you've got the appropriate adapters. So right now I can mirror the phone and can watch YouTube videos on the deck. If watching a YouTube it'll allow the phone to go dark or browse for your next video. Still looking into loading videos on the iPhone than watching them on deck but haven't put to much effort into as of yet. The real bummer is that there isn't no support to mod the iPhone to use full touch screen like if you had a droid with the hdmi. I've actually posted on several iPhone forums with just the question and after 2 months have not gotten a response. I still have my note2 and could hook that stuff back up but I have no internet on it so I couldn't watch YouTube from it. And I know this is droid forum but if anybody can help with modding the AppRadio app for iPhone like they did for the droid I'd throw some funds your way, but I can't throw to much since winter time is slow work months for me.