I kept reading about this in the forums until I got mine and noticed it for myself. It's actually not light leakage. The light from the capacitive buttons is so bright, it reflects off of the, ever so slight, edge around the glass. If you feel around the edge, you can just barely feel the raised edge. The way this thing is built, I find it hard to believe that they would skimp on that part.
The light is visible even if you cover the buttons, so it's not reflecting from outside the chassis. No doubt it's hitting and reflecting off the glass, but it's internal, where you would expect there to be some sort of enclosure around the LEDs to prevent such an occurrence. Doesn't really bother me though.
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I kept reading about this in the forums until I got mine and noticed it for myself. It's actually not light leakage. The light from the capacitive buttons is so bright, it reflects off of the, ever so slight, edge around the glass. If you feel around the edge, you can just barely feel the raised edge. The way this thing is built, I find it hard to believe that they would skimp on that part.
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I believe you're right. Reaper said the same in a similar thread around here. This phone is sealed tight, it's not like the OG EvO. HTC needs to tone down the capacitive buttons in an update. For now, Screen Filter works.
the buttons on the bottom sometimes active when your thumb is hovering over it, not even touching it.. pretty crazy, i thought i was nuts but i've replicated it on not only my phone but my wife's phone as well
I like it better turned off.
Damn, your right! Oh well, not a deal breaker by any means. I guess I was quick to jump the gun, lol.
vinterchaos said:
the buttons on the bottom sometimes active when your thumb is hovering over it, not even touching it.. pretty crazy, i thought i was nuts but i've replicated it on not only my phone but my wife's phone as well
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haha, i've noticed this too. I keep doing this.
shark1987 said:
haha, i've noticed this too. I keep doing this.
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Mine too, it sucks, but I guess it's better than them being under responsive, lol.
ydoucare said:
The light is visible even if you cover the buttons, so it's not reflecting from outside the chassis. No doubt it's hitting and reflecting off the glass, but it's internal, where you would expect there to be some sort of enclosure around the LEDs to prevent such an occurrence. Doesn't really bother me though.
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Exactly...why don't you guys cover the buttons and tell me yours magically doesn't have the ring anymore...very annoying and unacceptable.
Geez some of you guys gripe over the most minor design flaws.
vinterchaos said:
the buttons on the bottom sometimes active when your thumb is hovering over it, not even touching it.. pretty crazy, i thought i was nuts but i've replicated it on not only my phone but my wife's phone as well
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Mine does it too. The capacitive threshold is set too light. Hopefully that's a build.prop value (or something along that line that can be edited) that we can adjust when we get root.
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Exactly...why don't you guys cover the buttons and tell me yours magically doesn't have the ring anymore...very annoying and unacceptable.
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Very clearly light leakage. I covered mine with electrical tape and it was still EXTREMELY obvious. I could honestly care less though.
Call it what you want, but it's due to the capacitive buttons being excessively too bright. People are complaining regardless of "light leakage". It needs to be toned down a tad.
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Geez some of you guys gripe over the most minor design flaws.
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A flagship phone should not have "minor design flaws"...don't recall any of my phones prior to this having any light leakage.
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A flagship phone should not have "minor design flaws"...don't recall any of my phones prior to this having any light leakage.
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Well not every phone has the same flaws. Name a phone that doesnt have a flaw.
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gmfeny said:
Well not every phone has the same flaws. Name a phone that doesnt have a flaw.
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Never has a single problem with my EVO in the year I had it, with the exception of dropping it down a flight of (concrete) stairs last month and completely destroying it. No light leaking. No speaker issues. No camera issues. No flash issues. No button issues...need I continue?
Clearly HTC is capable of making a (physically) good phone...don't know that this one is it.
there are plenty of people who had light leak and screen lift with the evo.
just because you got a good one does not mean that overall the build quality was better then the evo 3d.
Those damned lights are so bright, I can see the outside on a sunny day. What a waste. Gimme a setting to kill them permanently. I know there's an app, but I like auto brightness on the rest. Somebody make an app that let's me leve auto but turns off those lights!
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there are plenty of people who had light leak and screen lift with the evo.
just because you got a good one does not mean that overall the build quality was better then the evo 3d.
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And yet every single 3D does have leak...
Anyway, done arguing ...There's nothing I can do about it now. I just don't want people trying to claim it's not leakage when it clearly is.
Sheesh.. light leakage isn't the end of the world people..
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I just spent hours setting up all my apps, widgets, media, everything. Now I notice when the capacitive buttons are lit I have two tiny pinhole sized light leaks under the buttons at the bottom edge of the screen....grrrrr! Not very noticeable but freaking lame. Take it back?
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KeithRVA said:
I just spent hours setting up all my apps, widgets, media, everything. Now I notice when the capacitive buttons are lit I have two tiny pinhole sized light leaks under the buttons at the bottom edge of the screen....grrrrr! Not very noticeable but freaking lame. Take it back?
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Same thing.
Mine isn't that noticable unless ur in the perfect spot looking at the phone from the reverse angle, figured that never happens anyway. For the user you never see it so, /shrug.
Seems like it might be a common problem though if yours is similar.
If your talking about when you hold the phone vertical and look straight down the edge of the screen. I have them too.
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Same thing.
Mine isn't that noticable unless ur in the perfect spot looking at the phone from the reverse angle, figured that never happens anyway. For the user you never see it so, /shrug.
Seems like it might be a common problem though if yours is similar.
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I'm having the same problem, but like you wrote it's not noticeable unless you are looking at it from an angle. For now I'll live with it but if it gets any worse I'm taking it back to Verizon.
All of them are like that, so if that is your only complaint, no don't return it.
I can't find any light leaks on mine...
Maybe I'm lucky or I just don't see it.
The EVO had the same issue, 1st builds of anything are gonna have issues
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If your talking about when you hold the phone vertical and look straight down the edge of the screen. I have them too.
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I notice that too, but I think that is normal. My light leaks are actually at the very bottom of the phone, in the black area beneath the buttons. You can see them when holding the phone normally, not upside down or at an angle.
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I notice that too, but I think that is normal. My light leaks are actually at the very bottom of the phone, in the black area beneath the buttons. You can see them when holding the phone normally, not upside down or at an angle.
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Thats where is was talking about. Im not noticing them just looking at the phone regularly only at a downward angle.
Yeah, I noticed it too. I then looked at my Dinc and it had the same problem. Never noticed it before and I've had that since July. Haha
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i dont see it but that wouldnt bother me long as the phone works im fine .. shoot i already have this ugly bulky extended battery but hey if it getts me better phone time cool
Noticed this too when using phone in a darker environment. There's light bleeding through between the bottom glass and the case near the back button when viewing at about 65 degree.
I got my brand new 3vo and the first thing I see is light bleed!
It is along the bottom of the screen. I'm scared to boot the other one I ordered.
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I got my brand new 3vo and the first thing I see is light bleed!
It is along the bottom of the screen. I'm scared to boot the other one I ordered.
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looks fine yer on crack
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I got my brand new 3vo and the first thing I see is light bleed!
It is along the bottom of the screen. I'm scared to boot the other one I ordered.
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I can't believe people have had this phone for like 36 hours and this is the first thread!!!
Yep the 3D does have light bleed along the bottom of the screen and up the sides. Doesn't appear to be as bad as the Evo 4G but it is there.
And I don't thing the power button is any different either. It the same hard to find one on my Evo 4g.
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looks fine yer on crack
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Your saying in a dark room the bottom edge of the phone doesn't glow a bit?? I bet if you check especially with a lighter image on the phone you will see it.
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I can't believe people have had this phone for like 36 hours and this is the first thread!!!
Yep the 3D does have light bleed along the bottom of the screen and up the sides. Doesn't appear to be as bad as the Evo 4G but it is there.
And I don't thing the power button is any different either. It the same hard to find one on my Evo 4g.
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Yup, same here. It's minor, and doesn't really bother me. Barely noticeable.
The powerbutton though, how's it hard to find? It's always in the same spot and never moves!
yes, this is one of the things i wish htc fixed but i have it too.. im going to ask for a new one because i have a white spot near the home button from the light.. guess the black under the glass didnt cover that little pin size spot.
as for the light bleed... i always use a case on my phone, do i dont see it much. sucks that its there i guess but not a deal breaker
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Yup, same here. It's minor, and doesn't really bother me. Barely noticeable.
The powerbutton though, how's it hard to find? It's always in the same spot and never moves!
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That's just what it wants you to think...
lol.. the Evo had it, the Thunderbolt has it.. im not surprised.
Ya it has it a little bit but It doesn't bother me one bit cuz I don't walk around pitch black rooms to notice it, lol. But I gotta say I CAN'T WAIT till this phone is rooted cuz it's already AWESOME!!!!
Mine is the same way, a little light bleeding from the capacitive buttons, but not a big deal at all.
I see it in a well lit room. I had to go in a dark room with my dslr to get the picture. maybe I'll get a case but I sure do like to streak.
Swyped from my Atari 2600 3D
No bleed with my Otterbox covering the bottom of the phone. =)
^^ lmfao @ swiped from my atari 2600 3d!!!!!
I have it too...but its really really minimum. If I use my case, its all covered up anyway...no biggie..
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A tiny little bit of black silicone, and problem solved (i did it with my original evo, and it was perfect after that)
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overclockxp said:
I got my brand new 3vo and the first thing I see is light bleed!
It is along the bottom of the screen. I'm scared to boot the other one I ordered.
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I don't see it..and if you need to tell me where to look then its not too bad..wouldn't think this is a reason to complain but to each there own
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I don't see it..and if you need to tell me where to look then its not too bad..wouldn't think this is a reason to complain but to each there own
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To each there own. Personally I don't like companies doing shotty work on any part of my device. It's not bad but when I'm laying in bed on the EVO it was annoying and could make watching videos not good. Like I said I'm weird but I like my products made with care and without batch defects.
That being said it not as bad as the original but its a shame they couldn't fix such a stupid issue.
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I don't see it..and if you need to tell me where to look then its not too bad..wouldn't think this is a reason to complain but to each there own
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Of course it's not a big deal, but it's really something that just shouldn't happen. When cheaper phones by HTC can have no leaks, then it means it's all just a matter of quality control.
Both phones have light bleed at the bottom. It's there. It is very hard to photograph. I won't go into why it is so hard to photograph. But it shows up very well in a bright room.
No light bleed here whatsoever
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Anyone else's have really bad light leakage at the bottom??
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keeperskeep said:
Anyone else's have really bad light leakage at the bottom??
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Seems so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138266
keeperskeep said:
Anyone else's have really bad light leakage at the bottom??
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can you post a pic please?
my first one did took it back. second one is decent.
Between light leakage and dead pixels I would say there are a few with cosmetic issues out there. I had to take my first phone back in for an exchange because it had a dead pixel in the right hand corner and also had dust underneath the camera lens. Looked over my replacement in the store and checked for dead pixels with the Dead Pixel Test app and it was fine. Failed to notice this eye sore near my search button. When capacitive buttons are lit up this thing is hard not to notice. Called Customer Service and they are supposed to call me tomorrow to let me know about yet another exchange...
I have some too. It's nothing to care about tho, my buttons and 2D-3D switch are solid unlike some who are having over sensitivity issues. If I am anal about my phone id be spending too much time with sprint customer service and less time enjoying a great device. If i complained I'd probably get a phone with other issues. I have warranty and insurance, if something REALLY goes wrong, ill just get a replacement. My real goal is not to drop this baby
In your picture, the white "dot" near your search button...is that where the light sensor is on your hardware? Mine is located just above and to the left of my "back" button...that would be weird if it was actually in two different locations. Or is it just a reflection from somewhere?
...just to be clear, I am referring to the first picture that was posted.
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In your picture, the white "dot" near your search button...is that where the light sensor is on your hardware? Mine is located just above and to the left of my "back" button...that would be weird if it was actually in two different locations. Or is it just a reflection from somewhere?
...just to be clear, I am referring to the first picture that was posted.
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Light sensor is always located on the top of the device.
On the 3vo its to the right of the HTC logo on top of your phone
From working in a plastic injection molding company it looks as if the white glowing spec is where it wasn't fully painted or molded (aka short shot) before the layer of glass was placed over it... Causing a leak of light
All speculation don't qoute me on it
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I have some too. It's nothing to care about tho, my buttons and 2D-3D switch are solid unlike some who are having over sensitivity issues. If I am anal about my phone id be spending too much time with sprint customer service and less time enjoying a great device. If i complained I'd probably get a phone with other issues. I have warranty and insurance, if something REALLY goes wrong, ill just get a replacement. My real goal is not to drop this baby
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what HW version do you have? I have some small light leakage at the bottom too BUT i think the big thing different from the evo4g screens is that the screens are very tight, when you try to push them down they dont budge. With the 4G you could pinch the screen and the light leakage would go away some. With the 3d thats not the case.
Now as far as your 2d/3d button. how is it play wise front to back? mine wiggles a bit front to back but is very solid top to bottom(direction to switch to 2d-3d).
Guys,
Use screen filter from the marker. Set transparency to 100% it won't filter anything but will dim the capacative buttons to almost off. Just a band aid for now but it will help.
No light leakage here, but I headache a case that would hide out I'd there was, so for right now I'm not worried.
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dteze88 said:
Guys,
Use screen filter from the marker. Set transparency to 100% it won't filter anything but will dim the capacative buttons to almost off. Just a band aid for now but it will help.
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This is a good idea except my search button doesn't turn off lol
Mine is very small but still sucks knowing Is there.
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I have some too. It's nothing to care about tho, my buttons and 2D-3D switch are solid unlike some who are having over sensitivity issues. If I am anal about my phone id be spending too much time with sprint customer service and less time enjoying a great device. If i complained I'd probably get a phone with other issues. I have warranty and insurance, if something REALLY goes wrong, ill just get a replacement. My real goal is not to drop this baby
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That is exactly what mine looks like. I'm using that screen filter app and trying to forget that it's there for now. I'll make a switch if anything near the end of the 30 days. What I'm really trying to get used to after my nova screen EvO4G is the yellowish hue over everything. Seems like an Epson panel all over again
HTC just needs to dim those capacative Buttons down. No reason for it to be that bright. So annoying useing it at night/ in the dark.
That would be awesome if someone could write an app to control the light of the capacitive buttons. I mean if screen filter can shut them on/off....
i got a little bit, and although id rather it not be there, i really dont mind it at all...
reason is, that unlike the one the OG EVO had which looked like a mess because its random spots where it leaks where it looks ugly, but on the E3D it looks like a slight (very very slight) glowing ring around the bottom which doesnt look that bad IMO
It's not light bleed LOL those are so bright its a reflection . So don't worry not light leaking .
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It's not light bleed LOL those are so bright its a reflection . So don't worry not light leaking .
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LoL I'm about to email the dev of screen filter to see if he can add control of the capacitive buttons.
Speaking of light leakage is anyone else's 2d/3d button kind of wobbly?
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Anyone else having light leak out at the bottom of the phone where the glass and plastic meet?
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I have the same thing with mine. I had the same deal with the 4G so I'm use to it.
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yes, there are a few threads already about this issue. some people are saying it is just the reflection of the bright ass lights on the heptic buttons bouncing off the lip of the case but i don't think it is. if i put something in between the buttons and the bottom of the phone i still see it. it doesn't bother me one bit. u have to be really anal to have this be a big issue.
Yea, I didn't think much of it. Didn't notice it till tonight. Sorry about the repost didnt see a main thread about it. = / I think I kinda like it tho, it rounds out the bottom of the phone. Is sorta a dock for the buttons. =}
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yes, there are a few threads already about this issue. some people are saying it is just the reflection of the bright ass lights on the heptic buttons bouncing off the lip of the case but i don't think it is. if i put something in between the buttons and the bottom of the phone i still see it. it doesn't bother me one bit. u have to be really anal to have this be a big issue.
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Not really a issue for me its due to the bright ass keys I know what light leakage is I had it once on a refurbished EVO in the past. Happy the 3d no issue for me also the tpu case seems to work really well with it .
Stops that funky ass rattle u would get when typing on the on screen keyboard due to the camera button . First time I heard it was hoping it wasn't my glass on the screen coming apart had that happen on the EVO glue wasnt that good.
So I just picked up the DNA today. Loving it! However, I just noticed that I'm seeing light bleed through on the bottom, just below the capacitive buttons when they're lit up. Anyone have this?? Really disliking this!
Yeah. Pretty common.
It is really easy to fix though and you can do it yourself. Unless you want to keep exchanging them and hoping you find one, this would be a better way.
Go to your local auto parts store and pick up this:
http://www.apmengineparts.com/82180.html?productid=82180&channelid=FROOG
Get the smallest one you can because you are only using a bit.
Take a toothpick and apply it to the bottom of the glass where it meets the plastic. Try to push it into the crack, if possible. Let it sit for a few seconds and then take a paper towel and wipe it off along the crack. DON'T get it into the usb port!
Let it dry for a few hours and you are good as gold. It also has the bonus of increasing water resistance and keeping dust out.
Mine didn't have that at all. I guess I got lucky. I do have a small spot almost dead center on the screen that looks like a bluish smudge though. You can only notice it on a white background. It's musky annoying but faint enough to live with.
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So I just picked up the DNA today. Loving it! However, I just noticed that I'm seeing light bleed through on the bottom, just below the capacitive buttons when they're lit up. Anyone have this?? Really disliking this!
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Mine does, I hate too, at least I'm not the only one with it. Still debating if I should exchange it or not....
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I have two spots on the botton too...never had this issue with LED screens. How likely is it not to have the light bleeds? If this is indeed a common problem for the DNA, I won't bother exchanging mine
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I have two spots on the botton too...never had this issue with LED screens. How likely is it not to have the light bleeds? If this is indeed a common problem for the DNA, I won't bother exchanging mine
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Common on Thunderbolt too. Never had Rezound to check.
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Common on Thunderbolt too. Never had Rezound to check.
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Hmm I guess it isn't something to be concerned about then.
I checked mine again right now in the office restroom with lights off and the phone screening an entirely black image; it does not have any light leakages at its full brightness, but there are two centered light spots triggered by the capacitive buttons that are only visible at the lowest brightness level.
Therefore presumably, turning off the capacitive button lights will eliminate the seemingly light leakages, as they do not seem to be defects caused by the LCD panel itself. But if such a leakage is glowed anywhere else but about the two centered areas just above the capacitive buttons, such as any corners or left/right/upper edges, then it would indeed be a sign of a defective unit.
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Hmm I guess it isn't something to be concerned about then.
I checked mine again right now in the office restroom with lights off and the phone screening an entirely black image; it does not have any light leakages at its full brightness, but there are two centered light spots triggered by the capacitive buttons that are only visible at the lowest brightness level.
Therefore presumably, turning off the capacitive button lights will eliminate the seemingly light leakages, as they do not seem to be defects caused by the LCD panel itself. But if such a leakage is glowed anywhere else but about the two centered areas just above the capacitive buttons, such as any corners or left/right/upper edges, then it would indeed be a sign of a defective unit.
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I sealed mine to be safe.
Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
I only have light bleeding through at a certain angle. I may pick up some of that stuff though.
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Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
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In my case, its coming from the seam between the curved glass and the trim.
Mine too, I can see it from any angle. There's two spots where it bleeds, the gaps between the captive buttons
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Well, at least I'm not the only one. Might just try to ignore it...we'll see how that goes...
Yeah I'm still torn about what to do. Kinda want to relock/ruu and exhange but what if the new one has something different wrong with it. This one works great, the bleeding is just visual and only in a very dark room so might just do what adryn did and seal it with some gasket maker
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I just sealed mine. Took 5 minutes tops, and only because I was being precise.
No more light bleed and increased resistance to dust and water.
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Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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I'm certain (in my case) that its the glass and the trim.
Nothing a little black silicone doesn't fix. The shape of the glass is not the problem. The problem lies near the capcitive keys where the glass meets the glossy trim. They are two different pieces.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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I was just pointing it out just in case... doesn't hurt