I was just wondering something. I noticed that the charger port on the phone is exactly the same as the ports on portable hard drives, like the Western Digital My Passport, and I'm sure many others.
With the hard drive, I noticed that the connection between the wire and the port wore out really fast, like within 1-2 months, not really unplugging/plugging it back in often. What happened was the connector became really loose and would become disconnected seemingly on a whim. You moved the unit ever so slightly and it was disconnected.
Since the charger port on the phone is the same as the ones on the drive, I'm kinda worried of it happening to the phone. I know it's probably because I'm just a little jaded because I went through something similar before, or if it's become an issue later on down the road, but I thought I should bring it up none the less.
Anyone else have any input? I'm curious to hear if anyone else has or hasn't had issues like this in the past. Maybe you can help put my fears about this to rest. ^^;
I had my EVO Shift for 5 months before I bought my 3D and I use my phone a lot at work, so I plug it in sometimes up to 6 times a day. The charger port on the Shift is still solid, working great and not wobbly or anything. It seems like you should be ok, at least with my experience it seems that way, others may have other experiences with the charger ports. I'm really careful when I plug it in, and not so much when I unplug it, so I am a little rough on it too.
It looks the same because it is a standard size port. Port type is not equal to quality of port. I had my og evo for a year with the same port with zero problems... and I wasn't gentle.
Chances are your cable will wear out LONG before the port will. If the port doesn't go bad in the first few days it'll be good for years.
.... What everyone else said.
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Cool. Thanks for the quick input. I think then I can relax now. ^^
If it is as good as the EVO 4G it won't wear out if not abused. If it is like my old blackberry then we are in trouble.
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its like super tight plugging in the charger etc... im afraid im gonna mess it up most phones just pops in easy this one is tough lol
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its like super tight plugging in the charger etc... im afraid im gonna mess it up most phones just pops in easy this one is tough lol
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I've noticed that too.
Especially when it's new!
so its safe? the solder points wont come loose? thats what im afraid of that happend with my samsung t509
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so its safe? the solder points wont come loose? thats what im afraid of that happend with my samsung t509
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I have mine since November and I charge it everyday and still no problems with the port. So, I guess it's good quality despite of what it might seem.
Well dudes,
this is now reality, my USB plug is broken in the phone!
After more than one year recharging the phone everyday... the soldered points are broken, not possible to resolder by my own, damn!
It's a shame, I loved this nice looked phone.
I had a 3125 for a year (replaced it with a 8925). At first, the USB port was REALLY tight. Eventually it losened up a bit, but was always snug. Just be careful with it and it will be fine.
Sil51, PM me if you're interested to sell your phone.
I've seen several 3125's on eBay with broken USB ports so it's not that uncommon.
Ciao,
mine broke on the first day of use, my girlfriend's and a friends StrTrk too, you have to be !DAMN CAREFUL!
They still charge & sync, but the headset looses connection...
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I am not quite sure as to the variation of included accessories from carrier to carrier but this is a question to at least the Tilt 2 owners and anyone else who's Touch Pro 2 came with that handy charger which has on one end a small block housinga flip up wall plug and on the other a female USB connection, this came with an USB to mini USB cable. The reason I ask is that after purchasing mine in February the mini end to the cable has completely come apart. It actually started within weeks of getting the phone. When I saw what was happening I wrapped it with some splice tape thinking it would be fine, but nope. The end fell out the other day and I was shocked to find that the small metal end was seated into the decidedly softer plastic plug in no more than maybe 1/32". How is something that is the junction for a lot of force anytime one moves the phone supposed to last with this kind of construction. AT&T says they warranty everything in the box? Nope. They will give you a wall charger that they retail for $29 as opposed to sending you the cable which retails for $10 less. My suspicion is that they are well aware of the fragile nature of this cable and so would rather you have something less likely to need replacement, at least while one is still under warranty. So I was curious if others have experienced this and if so, what did you do? Is there something to replace it with that is built better? OEM or not, I would love to know. I won't even go into what HTC said, but lets just say they are of a split mind on what to do.
I don't understand when you say that part is under a lot of force. I just don't see this with normal use.
Cords in general are not known for being durable, and prone to failure. But I agree that failure after 3 months is ridiculous. I've had mine since October, and it works fine. I also have the original cable for the old Tilt, which is 2-1/2 years old now, and well as the old charger (cord is not detachable). Admittedly, I probably don't use the newer USB cable as much as others, since I have these old accessories, which are still used with my Tilt2.
It sounds like ATT is willing to give you a new charger (with non-detachable cable), but not a new cable? That does seem odd. If you need a new cord, get one from Amazon or similar, it cost about $3.50 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-Shadow-Diamond-myTouch/dp/B002CZQ2IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1274720016&sr=8-1
im in the same boat as OP. Althought his seems to have lasted longer, LOL. Mine started to pull away from the usb b type end after the second week of having the device. Lucky for me i had some electrical tape and as soon as i noticed it i wraped it up good. I also have pleanty of usb to usb b cords laying arround seeing as i own a ps3 also. If you have any you can just use them they fit quite well and work fine.
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I don't understand when you say that part is under a lot of force. I just don't see this with normal use.
Cords in general are not known for being durable, and prone to failure. But I agree that failure after 3 months is ridiculous. I've had mine since October, and it works fine. I also have the original cable for the old Tilt, which is 2-1/2 years old now, and well as the old charger (cord is not detachable). Admittedly, I probably don't use the newer USB cable as much as others, since I have these old accessories, which are still used with my Tilt2.
It sounds like ATT is willing to give you a new charger (with non-detachable cable), but not a new cable? That does seem odd. If you need a new cord, get one from Amazon or similar, it cost about $3.50 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-Shadow-Diamond-myTouch/dp/B002CZQ2IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1274720016&sr=8-1
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What I mean by force is imagine that point where the mini usb meets the phone as a lever point. So when the phone moves at all, you go to pick it up you bump it,what have you, that is where all of the stress forces will be at play. Considering that point is just a tiny piece of metal and plastic that is only inset about 1/32" what can you expect. The new versions have been redesigned, si I am sure they know. I am also pretty sure this is why neither HTC nor AT&T will carry them in their warranty department. In fact, AT& T doesn't deal with Tilt 2's at all at their service centers. Funny that HTC passed Apple in sales this quarter but might have forgotten Apples hard learned lesson that they received when it was realized that the iPod's battery could not be replaced. The Phones are great, the accessories they by from someone else ordinarily so they are hit and miss
And yeah 1 L0v3 my HtC, I just learned that any mini USB will do. I thought that the ends were proprietary and so the would be hard to find but the different shape fits afterall which is what I am using now.
I have never used mine. I've used my old Motorola charger from day one.
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What I mean by force is imagine that point where the mini usb meets the phone as a lever point. So when the phone moves at all, you go to pick it up you bump it,what have you, that is where all of the stress forces will be at play.
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Yep, that's what I figured you meant. Just doesn't seem like much force to me at all. Sure, cables have a stress point right at the plug, and that is where almost all cables go bad eventually. But if your device is just sitting there, plugged in, I don't see how much stress is being applied to it, even if you bump it.
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Yep, that's what I figured you meant. Just doesn't seem like much force to me at all. Sure, cables have a stress point right at the plug, and that is where almost all cables go bad eventually. But if your device is just sitting there, plugged in, I don't see how much stress is being applied to it, even if you bump it.
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I empathize with the OP. I have thrown away a number of older cables due to short circuits at that junction. It no so bad, unless it shorts out during a flash... :eek At any rate, I now wiggle them before initiating a flash. I also bought new cables with the HTC connector and no longer use mini usb.
I have a number of 'antique' cables and chargers from my 6800 days and a number of newer ones. All are working just fine.
I just hope (pray is more like it) that Asus made the stupid USB proprietary charging cable longer than the ridiculously short one with the original Transformer. The goofy thing was like 3 feet long, could barely reach a tabletop or desktop from a wall outlet. And for anyone just getting a TF for the first time, note that you need USB 3.0 spec extension cables to extend the charging/sync cable that ships with the Transformer Prime; 2.0 would not charge since the pin-outs are different. My cheat? I uses a regular ac extension cord, and plugged the charging inverter (transformer?) into the regular ac extension cord, that way I could extend it as long as I liked, with no concern about leakage, signal loss etc...
Oh yeah! One BIG THING: I hope that the Prime does not have the quirk where the power supply, when oriented "right side up" (plugged in with the ASUS logo readable) has a grounding issue like the Transformer TF101 did. Anyone who had one might know what I mean. If you lightly touched the metallic sections when charging with the cable oriented one way, the thing had an electric "Buzz" running through it, like a fine vibration. Not dangerous to people, I would think, but when first noticed it I was seriously concerned. I did a bunch of research on it, and basically, if you flipped the charger around in outlet, it went away. All they had to do was make one blade of the plug wider, but perhaps grounding is different in some markets, so they weren't able to do that.
They had several revisions for it, but never fixed it, as far as I know, and I had one of the last serial numbers.
All I know is you take a reasonable durable electronic device, but one where there is no "Frame" or "Chassis" because they wanted it to be ultra slim, and what they do is solder components onto a board that IS the chassis. That, along with a nice strong piece of Corning Gorilla Glass, and you have a reasonably rigid, strong, yet extremely thin device. I think they outright stole the process from Apple's Mac Book Air, and did it first with the Zen Book (Another device I am lusting after, but a bit short on the cashola to be grabbing anytime soon, LOL!)
My concern, if you want to call it that, is that improperly grounding a "durable" but in other ways "sensitive" grouping of electronic components, so much so that the user can literally feel the stray voltage, can not be all that good for the components. I mean, it's not exactly ZAPPING you when you touch it,but it feels downright creepy.. and I do not like it. I think, f my new Asus does this as badly as my old one, I may give them a heard time about it. But I will not be shipping my unit in for inspection - No freaking way. If they want to reproduce it, they can just grab one of their own and work on it. Just don't stand in a puddle during testing, okay guys?
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I just hope (pray is more like it) that Asus made the stupid USB proprietary charging cable longer than the ridiculously short one with the original Transformer. The goofy thing was like 3 feet long, could barely reach a tabletop or desktop from a wall outlet. And for anyone just getting a TF for the first time, note that you need USB 3.0 spec extension cables to extend the charging/sync cable that ships with the Transformer Prime; 2.0 would not charge since the pin-outs are different. My cheat? I uses a regular ac extension cord, and plugged the charging inverter (transformer?) into the regular ac extension cord, that way I could extend it as long as I liked, with no concern about leakage, signal loss etc...
Oh yeah! One BIG THING: I hope that the Prime does not have the quirk where the power supply, when oriented "right side up" (plugged in with the ASUS logo readable) has a grounding issue like the Transformer TF101 did. Anyone who had one might know what I mean. If you lightly touched the metallic sections when charging with the cable oriented one way, the thing had an electric "Buzz" running through it, like a fine vibration. Not dangerous to people, I would think, but when first noticed it I was seriously concerned. I did a bunch of research on it, and basically, if you flipped the charger around in outlet, it went away. All they had to do was make one blade of the plug wider, but perhaps grounding is different in some markets, so they weren't able to do that.
They had several revisions for it, but never fixed it, as far as I know, and I had one of the last serial numbers.
All I know is you take a reasonable durable electronic device, but one where there is no "Frame" or "Chassis" because they wanted it to be ultra slim, and what they do is solder components onto a board that IS the chassis. That, along with a nice strong piece of Corning Gorilla Glass, and you have a reasonably rigid, strong, yet extremely thin device. I think they outright stole the process from Apple's Mac Book Air, and did it first with the Zen Book (Another device I am lusting after, but a bit short on the cashola to be grabbing anytime soon, LOL!)
My concern, if you want to call it that, is that improperly grounding a "durable" but in other ways "sensitive" grouping of electronic components, so much so that the user can literally feel the stray voltage, can not be all that good for the components. I mean, it's not exactly ZAPPING you when you touch it,but it feels downright creepy.. and I do not like it. I think, f my new Asus does this as badly as my old one, I may give them a heard time about it. But I will not be shipping my unit in for inspection - No freaking way. If they want to reproduce it, they can just grab one of their own and work on it. Just don't stand in a puddle during testing, okay guys?
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you''d think with the new product...with the safety of ground vs hot....they would have fixed it ..but NOOOO....i felt this "vibration thingy" last night and thought something was wrong. I know i have dirty power in my house...and it doesnt do it while plugged into the USB of my computer....
Glad to see this was an earlier issue and although i thought i moved to different sockets in the house..i cant honestly say i truly "tested" flipping the plug around. i'll try that when i get home.
ps. it's retarded that the only way to charge is via the plug. 12v. really? oh and charging my tablet yesterday after picking it up and opening at work revealed a dead tablet...the plug was super hot after charging for about 4 hours...
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I just hope (pray is more like it) that Asus made the stupid USB proprietary charging cable longer than the ridiculously short one with the original Transformer. The goofy thing was like 3 feet long, could barely reach a tabletop or desktop from a wall outlet. And for anyone just getting a TF for the first time, note that you need USB 3.0 spec extension cables to extend the charging/sync cable that ships with the Transformer Prime; 2.0 would not charge since the pin-outs are different. My cheat? I uses a regular ac extension cord, and plugged the charging inverter (transformer?) into the regular ac extension cord, that way I could extend it as long as I liked, with no concern about leakage, signal loss etc...
Oh yeah! One BIG THING: I hope that the Prime does not have the quirk where the power supply, when oriented "right side up" (plugged in with the ASUS logo readable) has a grounding issue like the Transformer TF101 did. Anyone who had one might know what I mean. If you lightly touched the metallic sections when charging with the cable oriented one way, the thing had an electric "Buzz" running through it, like a fine vibration. Not dangerous to people, I would think, but when first noticed it I was seriously concerned. I did a bunch of research on it, and basically, if you flipped the charger around in outlet, it went away. All they had to do was make one blade of the plug wider, but perhaps grounding is different in some markets, so they weren't able to do that.
They had several revisions for it, but never fixed it, as far as I know, and I had one of the last serial numbers.
All I know is you take a reasonable durable electronic device, but one where there is no "Frame" or "Chassis" because they wanted it to be ultra slim, and what they do is solder components onto a board that IS the chassis. That, along with a nice strong piece of Corning Gorilla Glass, and you have a reasonably rigid, strong, yet extremely thin device. I think they outright stole the process from Apple's Mac Book Air, and did it first with the Zen Book (Another device I am lusting after, but a bit short on the cashola to be grabbing anytime soon, LOL!)
My concern, if you want to call it that, is that improperly grounding a "durable" but in other ways "sensitive" grouping of electronic components, so much so that the user can literally feel the stray voltage, can not be all that good for the components. I mean, it's not exactly ZAPPING you when you touch it,but it feels downright creepy.. and I do not like it. I think, f my new Asus does this as badly as my old one, I may give them a heard time about it. But I will not be shipping my unit in for inspection - No freaking way. If they want to reproduce it, they can just grab one of their own and work on it. Just don't stand in a puddle during testing, okay guys?
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I also have this with my HP laptop, which also has an aluminium shell. I think that is normal.
EDIT: My Desire Z (G2) also had this, pretty sure that is normal.
The Prime "buzz"
Mine definitely has the grounding issue / buzz. Inverting the plug alleviates the problem but you'd think design measures could be taken to eliminate the problem.
the tf201 charger is unchanged from the tf101. the replacement/spare asus sells is a single part # for both.
Just a little jab at our S3 owning friends..http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2186006/samsung-galaxy-s3-handset-catches
mmm I wonder if Apple is already preparing another lawsuit against Samsung. After all they came first with their exploding iPhones!!
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I'm 99% sure that this isn't samsung's fault but instead the user's. Also, the HTC One X has done this before.
See, all the of the damage was near the usb port. If a cheap charging cable shorts, this can happen easily. I know it said he never had USB plugged in, but he wouldn't get a refund if he said he was using a cheap charging cable so he probably lied. Also, why would the USB port randomly blow up and not the battery? It would be impossible for the USB port to blow up without a shorted/malfunctional charging cable inserted.
Maybe he really did have no charging cable in, if that's the case, it's a manufacturing defect.
If you're making hundreds of thousands of phones, you can expect one or two to be defective like that. And since this has happened with almost every phone (even our 3D's), you can't bash one manufacturer for it.
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The link is broken but we all already know the article...
I'm 99% sure that this isn't samsung's fault but instead the user's. Also, the HTC One X has done this before.
See, all the of the damage was near the usb port. If a cheap charging cable shorts, this can happen easily. I know it said he never had USB plugged in, but he wouldn't get a refund if he said he was using a cheap charging cable so he probably lied. Also, why would the USB port randomly blow up and not the battery? It would be impossible for the USB port to blow up without a shorted/malfunctional charging cable inserted.
Maybe he really did have no charging cable in, if that's the case, it's a manufacturing defect.
If you're making hundreds of thousands of phones, you can expect one or two to be defective like that. And since this has happened with almost every phone (even our 3D's), you can't bash one manufacturer for it.
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I'm much more inclined to believe this. The damage is too concentrated and nowhere near where I'd expect it to be if it was actually a heat problem. I'm glad Samsung rushed to shut him up to prevent any sort of media backlash, but I really, really don't believe that he had nothing to do with what happened.
Maybe not intentionally, at least.
No matter who the manufacturer is I could just imagine the shock of seeing an article like this and the mad rush of trying to cover it up or quickly put a different spin on the whole event especially this early in a release. I'm sure there is a whole lot of finger pointing going on. I know it's only one phone but if we see some more....
If he had it in an in-car holster (as stated) im pretty sure he had it plugged into the charger (using nav or something) so it prolly was a faulty charger. A USB port doesn't explode without anything plugged into it. Only the battery can explode which obviously that's not the case. My question is why would u spend money on the lastest phone and then shortchange urself buying a cheap Chinese car charger?
Ok, let me start out by saying that I'm not posting this in the Q&A section because it's not really a problem that I am seriously thinking about fixing, I just want to get some of ya'lls opinions on it.
Heres the thing: I bought the TF201 the day it came out, along with the keyboard dock, spent something like 700 bucks (leanred a very valuable lesson on that one). About 6 months after that, on day, the black plastic peice that I later learned "kept the charging pins inside of the charging port on the tablet separte and straight" just fell out. Upon further research I discovered that a few others had been experiencing this, and it was apparently a design flaw that would happen if you didn't separate the tablet from the keyboard perfectly straight (i.e. separate one side of the tablet from the keyboard, then at an angle, pull the other side out.) Now, I realize how dumb it was that I was even doing that in the first place, but what can I say. So here's where i'm at now: About 6 months ago, the actual charging usb cable that came with it just completely fell apart. I ordered two new ones. These are not "exactly" the same as the original one and I cannot get it it plug into the tablet directly (probably due to the fact that there is no plastic peice keeping the pins in place, and I dnon't want to push to hard becuase if I bend those pins it's game over). I can, however plug the cable into the keyboard, and the tablet WILL plug into the keyboard quite effortlessly and charge that way. Also, as a side note, nothing on the keyboard works, not a single button, not the track pad, nothing, the only thing it does is charges the tablet, and the keyboard itself will also take a charge.
Whew, ok, if you're still with me after all that, here's what i want some opinion on: Is this thing worth trying to salvage, I would like to get the keyboardworking as well as somehow replace that peice that fell out of the tablet charging port. I honestly do love the tablet, I have a slight weekness in wifi signal but no big deal, and the screen is amazing. so, any thoughts?
I'd say you're screwed :/
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I'd say you're screwed :/
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Yeah, Thats what i'm thinking. I mean, I still use the tablet all the time, I just can't charge it directly from the port, I have to use the keyboard, the biggest issue I have is that I really wan tthe keyboard to work. Maybe I should just try to pick on up cheap, I don't know....last time I'm buying ASUS though.
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Yeah, Thats what i'm thinking. I mean, I still use the tablet all the time, I just can't charge it directly from the port, I have to use the keyboard, the biggest issue I have is that I really wan tthe keyboard to work. Maybe I should just try to pick on up cheap, I don't know....last time I'm buying ASUS though.
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Firstly, i would like to inform you that i'm one more person that i had problem with the charger and that the main reason that i don't use my Asus so much is that his wifi signal is really disappointing.
Concerning your problem, you cannot use your keyboard while you charge your tablet through it, right?