[Q] to wipe data or not? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to the whole rooting and installing roms experience. I currently have Bamf Sense 3.0 rc2 installed. Do I need to wipe data before installing rc3 or is just clearing the cache and dalvik cache enough?

U will find it done both ways with success on here, But the devs recommend the wipe.
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Always wipe. Period.
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when in quesiton....just wipe to avoid any issues.

the majority of times that I've seen problems with a new ROM installation have been when a wipe was not performed.

Always wipe before install unless the dev who posted say specificly it is not required. like ron said 90% of the time errors people encounter are from not following instruction like wipeing before installing. Like in BAMF 3.0 adrenalyn even said that they made changes to the framework on the rom between each RC verson so it is definetly recommended.

Thanks for the responses. Will definetly wipe but ill wait for the next release then.

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[Q] Is it good to wipe dalvik's cache before flashing new rom?

As you all know, before installing new rom we we have to wipe data and cache in recovery...
But do we have also to wipe dalvik's cache?
As you read on every ROM thread, it is advisable to do a CLEAN wipe meaning all of it before installing a different rom. I personally don't find any difference between wiping and not wiping.
When upgrading CyanogenMOD nightlies wiping is pointless, and a waste of time. When switching between Sense-based ROMs and CM etc. then a full wipe is recommended, but not always needed. Wiping dalvik cache will never hurt
Just a thought here, but isn't DC in /data ? So if you wipe data you wipe DC as well, no?
I've been flashing Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 rom but the only thing I am seeing is the HTC screen for over 10 minutes. Is there anybody helps me to solve this issue? I am newbie so I cannot post in Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 topic.
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I always wipe because it cleans the dust. As GrammarFreak said, when switching between CM nightlies, it is pointless as of the minor changes that come with them. But switching to an entirely new ROM (like stock -> CM) I thin it is better to wipe everything. The cause: Android DO collect junk, and a clean system is always nice.
Regarding contact, sms and other app data: backup to phone and cloud, simple as hell.
thanks for the advice. so if you flash anew rom, do u lose all ur apps every time? i'm flashing ics on my g2 alpha 8 right now. so i will find out soon enough
shinobi3432 said:
thanks for the advice. so if you flash anew rom, do u lose all ur apps every time? i'm flashing ics on my g2 alpha 8 right now. so i will find out soon enough
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In my experience (using a HTC Desire HD) you only lose your apps and settings when you perform a full-wipe before flashing a new rom. When you update your rom without wiping, your settings and apps are not removed. However, I personally like to do a full-wipe before flashing a rom, because it clears out al the dust and gives you a fresh new phone.
If you don't want to lose your apps and data, but you do want to wipe, you can offcourse always use Titanium Backup to make a backup of the apps and data.
Just do it! It's free (costs only a slightly longer startup the first time after you wipe dalvik)!
aiuvoanh said:
I've been flashing Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 rom but the only thing I am seeing is the HTC screen for over 10 minutes. Is there anybody helps me to solve this issue? I am newbie so I cannot post in Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 topic.
Thank
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in my experience, this happens when you dont clear the cache prior to updating the rom. in my case, I had to re-apx mine, since I didnt figure this out until I had tried the factory rom. good thing I had the SBK and CPUid, or it would have been even a more painful experience!

has anyone tried to flash a rom ontop of a rom?

the reason i ask is i want to know if anyone has had a problem going from rom to rom with out going back to there back up then flashing the new rom?
must wipe before going to different rom. you may have issues booting up.
affliction said:
the reason i ask is i want to know if anyone has had a problem going from rom to rom with out going back to there back up then flashing the new rom?
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I've had no problem at all. I always do a full wipe before flashing a new rom though. If you don't want to do a full wipe, and you're only updating the same rom (for instance, from viper 1.1 to viper 1.2 or something), then you could try minimally wiping cache and dalvik cache. I always recommend a full wipe for best results though. I consider a full wipe to be wiping system, boot, data, cache, dalvik cache, and sd-EXT (if you have an EXT partition on your sd card)
I've successfully flashed joelz' ShooTeR ReWInD 3D over stock OTA w/o wipe with no issues and then flashed Evervolv's Absurd over that with no wipe and no issues.
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I've successfully flashed joelz' ShooTeR ReWInD 3D over stock OTA w/o wipe with no issues and then flashed Evervolv's Absurd over that with no wipe and no issues.
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That will most likely start giving you problems eventually, if you continue not to wipe. Things from one rom will start showing up in the next rom you flash, and you'll most likely start getting weird little bugs here and there. At least it always did with my Evo 4G. A full wipe is usually recommended, but every flasher has their own techniques.
k2buckley said:
That will most likely start giving you problems eventually, if you continue not to wipe. Things from one rom will start showing up in the next rom you flash, and you'll most likely start getting weird little bugs here and there. At least it always did with my Evo 4G. A full wipe is usually recommended, but every flasher has their own techniques.
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+ 1 to full wipe, you will get bugs eventually, might battery life or maybe apps won't install or work, right now might be cause all the roms are mostly the same with no heavy customization but when they start messing a lot with roms you migh get screw
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Both these roms are based on the stock OTA ROM for 3VO. Also "format("ext4","EMMC", "/dev/block/mmcblk0p23")" is written into the updater-script of both ROMS, wiping the /system partition prior to install. Flashover issues usually happen when you start throwing AOSP and ports into the mix. That being said, I'm meticulous about backups and will never blame an issue in a flashover on the ROM without a fresh install or a peek into the zip to ensure the issue exist.
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Both these roms are based on the stock OTA ROM for 3VO. Also "format("ext4","EMMC", "/dev/block/mmcblk0p23")" is written into the updater-script of both ROMS, wiping the /system partition prior to install. Flashover issues usually happen when you start throwing AOSP and ports into the mix. That being said, I'm meticulous about backups and will never blame an issue in a flashover on the ROM without a fresh install or a peek into the zip to ensure the issue exist.
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It's still best to do a full wipe if you ask me. I do it even if I'm flashing the exact same ROM with say, one tweak in one of my battery icons or something. I always wipe lol.
yeah i just hate dealing with a full wipe everytime so i figured i would get some opinions on the issue right now im running steel rom and want to flash viper so im not sure what i want to do

[Q] How would I update rom?

I have the rom from this thread and its the version RLS2 RC1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192869
My question is I want to update from the RLS2 RC1 to the • RLS2 Official but do I do it as if I was installing another new rom or do I update it with a certain method?
Also what is the MD5 SUM below the download link?
just flash the new rom and you set
but since I already have the older version of this rom do I still need to do a complete wipe? or is there a way to just update?
Always best to do complete wipe ... I use titanium backup and speeds up reinstalling everything TONS paid for pro version
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thanks was just making sure, i figured if you were just updating your current rom there would be an easier method or that you could just apply and update as if it were from sprint
It's also a good practice to check the thread of the ROM you're updating to see what the OP suggests as far as full wipe or just a wipe of the cache and dalvik then flash. In most cases, as long as the framework hasn't changed from one version to the other you should be ok w/ just a wipe of cache and dalvik. YMMV
Joel actually said you needed a full wipe because he changed the default.xml, but in future iterations you shouldn't need to full wipe, just cache and dalvik
thanks guys i feel alot better about it now, cant wait to do it when i get home

[Q] If I have gingerbread radio & rom can I....?

So I currently have Das BAMF 3.0 flashed onto my HTC Thunderbolt. It's working perfectly fine; but say I wasnt to flash another ROM, do I have to wipe my data and cache again via clockwork recovery? (yes I backed my phone up and backed up with titanium back up)
Yes or you will run into issues like me
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When switching between ROMs from different devs one should always wipe data/cache. Different devs sometimes use different packages for some of the base system apps and the data usually won't "mesh". If you don't wipe, you may not notice a problem initially...but a few day's later you'll be asking "Why does XXXX force close on me?"
Only time you shouldn't have to worry about wiping is if you're flashing nightlies or incremental versions of a rom where not much has changed unless the dev states otherwise in the release post.

Can you install XRON 2.2 over CM7 a3.5 without a full wipe?

I've had CM7 a3.5 on for a few days and set up my android install pretty much exactly how I want it however I'm looking to try the Xron flavor of the rom. I know the install instructions say you need a full wipe, but I've seen a lot of reports saying that flashing over it works as well.
Anyone have any experience with it?
I installed it with just a wipe cache/dalvik cache. I did the wipes twice. It's been great so far.
Read the posts though , some have had troubles. Make sure you have a backup!
Sure you "can" just install over but the true question is "should" you. If you just install over a3.5 you wouldn't see the same benefits as coming from a full wipe.

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