My dad just got my mom this Tablet, I dont want to mess with it to much, so no custom roms. All I want to do is give her access to the android market. I have read tons of posts and they all start with open the market then close the market, but I dont have the market. Is there an APK to download to install the market then do the "clear cache till I get an error" fix. Or is the only way to get the market is to install a custom rom that already has the market. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
Just flash a custom rom and make it run 10 times faster and more stable. The whole process will take less than 20 minutes if you follow my instructions down to the letter.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/starthere.htm
You're either a code green or yellow. Take your pick.
I'm serious about it. The stock rom is really not that great. If you want to maximize the user experience for your mom, flash her a custom froyo rom. I like the calkulin+clemsyn combo the most. Make sure you pay attention to which branch of development you're on.
Ya, I was afraid that was going to be the response. I actually have been on your site for dummies. I am not new to android as I have a Motorola Atrix and have done my share of modding on it, but am nervous about screwing up my moms new present and never hearing the end of it. Gues I might just have to bite the bullet and get it done.
Go on and do it...
goodintentions said:
Just flash a custom rom and make it run 10 times faster and more stable. The whole process will take less than 20 minutes if you follow my instructions down to the letter.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/starthere.htm
You're either a code green or yellow. Take your pick.
I'm serious about it. The stock rom is really not that great. If you want to maximize the user experience for your mom, flash her a custom froyo rom. I like the calkulin+clemsyn combo the most. Make sure you pay attention to which branch of development you're on.
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I'm 65+.
That said, I went to goodintentions website, followed the instructions, and wala, I have a custom ROM, running at blazing speed and could not be happier.
Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo V6 BL1.2
I'd give it a shot.
And don't forget to make a donation to goodintentions...
Moms about to drop the tablet off. Once I find out which branch it is on, I am going to start the process goodintentions has on his "Start Here" page. thanks all for the input.
Goodluck modding the tablet. I put a custom rom on my fathers tablet. Boy did he yell at me as i was halfway through but then he used it that night, called me up and said "holy **** what did you do?" Quite funny in the moment.
Sent from my Galaxy S running Galnet's MIUI v2.2 @ 1.3ghz!
Another vote for Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo V6 BL1.2
It's been perfectly solid and stable for me. Your mom shouldn't have any troubles for the foreseeable future.
The good thing is, it's essentially unbrickable, so there's always a way to back out. I assume that she's been using her Tablet since getting it, so she may be used to the UI of stock Tapntap...
That being said, if you flash a rom (another +1 here for Calk+Clem combo 1.6 for bootloader 1.2) and she doesn't like it, you can always take it right back to stock for her. I highly doubt that she'll hate the custom rom, though. She'll have full market access, speed WITH battery management, stockish settings menus, A way to backup the system OS (through CWM) , and basically just a whole new experience that is far superior to stock...
NOW, I'm sure you know, but make sure to backup whatever apps she's already got prior to flashing the new rom...
but, yeah...flash a new rom, let her use it for a few days, THEN ask her which she liked better...
All right, got the new rom and have been playing with and I am quite happy. She only had it for a day or two so I she still was getting use to it. That is why I did it right now before she got to attached to the stock rom. Not seeing the full market but need to do the clear cache and force close thing and see if it will work. I noticed several apps that I wanted to install were not showing up.
smcastillo said:
All right, got the new rom and have been playing with and I am quite happy. She only had it for a day or two so I she still was getting use to it. That is why I did it right now before she got to attached to the stock rom. Not seeing the full market but need to do the clear cache and force close thing and see if it will work. I noticed several apps that I wanted to install were not showing up.
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In theory, you will never ever have "full" market. Google market is set up so that certain device only gets certain apps. It is impossible for any one device to have access to all apps. Don't ask me why google does this.
My "girlfriend" just bought the transformer. I've been playing with it. Right away, I noticed that the market for the transformer is missing a whole bunch of apps.
That said, if you want more market access, go to the following link and read.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/apps/blog/categories/show/1101880-02-market-fix-
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Moms about to drop the tablet off. Once I find out which branch it is on, I am going to start the process goodintentions has on his "Start Here" page. thanks all for the input.
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Don't forget to repartition and fix permissions first...
Ya, I actually started on goodintentions site "code green" and did each in order so I should have covered everything. I also did the market fix and I am able to find alot more apps now. I know you will never see everything, but there is alot more apps showing after the clear cache, force close fix.
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I bought my G-Tab with the same problems as everyone else. I want to have the power everyone talks about but with the ability that I can use it for professional work with out the embarrassment of it "forcing to close" or just not working. I am willing to sacrifice power and speed (not much of each!) for stability.
I know everyone will say this is asked and answered. I have tried to read everything and figure it out for the last month but I am not getting anywhere with more and more programs/apps being added I am lost.
If you can help let me tell you what I use so you can say that wont work anymore change to this or something like that.
-Dropbox
-Docs to go
-need to use gmail for personal work i do off of webmail
-kindel and angry birds for the kids they cant seem to live with out them
I am willing to "flash?" or what ever it takes if someone can point me to a step by step. I put TnTL on it but this just still seemed slugish and probably my own fault but I still dont have google market just handango.
I really appreciate you even taking the time to read this rambling.
jeep (I couldn't remember all of it! ,
I won't try to answer all your questions, but I'll start and maybe others will jump in.
Speed: If you have TnT Lite installed, you probably are getting the same speed as the rest of us. Searched on "tablet Quadrant benchmarks"
and the Xoom was 1823 and the Galaxy Tab 1064. The original poor G-Tablet softwear was in the 1500s and my G-Tablets (4.3.2 and TTX) both
run in the 2100-2200 range. I'd say that pretty good!
My recommendation to you -- if you already have TnT Lite on it -- would be to upgrade that to TnT Lite 4.3.2. You would need to flash 4.3.0 and
then the 4.3.2 supplement in that order.
That would get you the latest in roebeet's ROMs, and would add full Market and the latest fixes. The would get you a Quadrant speed of about 2200. And with the Market you can download Angry Birds and the other software you need.
I know this doesn't answer all your questions, but hopefully it will get
you started.
Rev
EDIT: Corrected per info in next thread by Roebeet.
butchconner said:
jeep (I couldn't remember all of it! ,
I won't try to answer all your questions, but I'll start and maybe others will jump in.
Speed: If you have TnT Lite installed, you probably are getting the same speed as the rest of us. Searched on "tablet Quadrant benchmarks"
and the Xoom was 1823 and the Galaxy Tab 1064. The original poor G-Tablet softwear was in the 1500s and my G-Tablets (4.3.2 and TTX) both
run in the 2100-2200 range. I'd say that pretty good!
My recommendation to you -- if you already have TnT Lite on it -- would be to upgrade that to TnT Lite 4.3.2. You would need to flash 4.3.0 and
then the 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 supplements in that order.
That would get you the latest in roebeet's ROMs, and would add full Market and the latest fixes. The would get you a Quadrant speed of about 2200. And with the Market you can download Angry Birds and the other software you need.
I know this doesn't answer all your questions, but hopefully it will get
you started.
Rev
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Just one add-on : The TNT Lite supplements are cumalative. So you install 4.3.0 as a base, then 4.3.2 after that -- you don't need 4.3.1.
I do that as that way you only have to install one supplement, if you are a few revisions off.
TNT Lite 4.3.x has one known caveat, which is a problematic sleep. "Quick fix" for now is a custom kernel - I actually recommend a custom kernel for TNT Lite, but I don't add one by default as I feel it should be a user decision.
You know, a permissions fix always helps. Reboot to recovery and under advanced there is an option to fix permissions. A lot of the time this increases stability and reduces fc issues.
+1 for custom kernel. There has been a lot of work done recently to streemline performance and fix known issues. Clemsyns new kernel made a noticeable increase in net performance sleep death issue was fixed.
Hope that helps
roebeet said:
Just one add-on : The TNT Lite supplements are cumalative. So you install 4.3.0 as a base, then 4.3.2 after that -- you don't need 4.3.1.
I do that as that way you only have to install one supplement, if you are a few revisions off.
TNT Lite 4.3.x has one known caveat, which is a problematic sleep. "Quick fix" for now is a custom kernel - I actually recommend a custom kernel for TNT Lite, but I don't add one by default as I feel it should be a user decision.
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Ok I can do that.....but what is a kernel and how do I do that? My brother in-law who just knows everything! Told me I need to flash it with a vegan he didnt know how or why. Only that thats what he was going to do with his phone? Obviously you can already tell the level of brains I am dealing with there.
lil97jeeptjj said:
Ok I can do that.....but what is a kernel and how do I do that? My brother in-law who just knows everything! Told me I need to flash it with a vegan he didnt know how or why. Only that thats what he was going to do with his phone? Obviously you can already tell the level of brains I am dealing with there.
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You probably don't need to go down that path (Kernel, etc) until you have a little more experience.
I find pictures more valuable than words, if you aren't happy with how the device is performing for you then this video might help. It is a good start on how to get a more responsive ROM onto the device.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_FvJnWNEw
beyond that it's a matter of doing a lot of reading and careful experimentation.
While I totally bow down to Roebeet's awesome-ness I would suggest going with VEGAn 5.1.1. I've been running it for over a month now and it's been rock-solid with not a single force close.
I did have a period where I had a crapload of force-closes a while back (sometime late January/early February?) but I blamed it on me messing around with my build.prop so I could use Swype. Swype is great but I didn't need it. I can't say that was the problem but after I booted into recovery via ClockworkMod .8 and wiped user data, cleared cache, cleard dalvik cache and then flashed VEGAn 5.1 and then the 5.1.1 supplemental I haven't had any problems. I also don't download any and everything that someone posts on these forums; just because I can doesn't mean I should.
I use Dropbox as well and instead of Documents To Go I've been using QuickOffice Pro and have no issues whatsoever. I am also using LogMeIn Ignition to access my work laptop from my gTab so I don't have to lug that around anymore.
sjmoreno said:
While I totally bow down to Roebeet's awesome-ness I would suggest going with VEGAn 5.1.1. I've been running it for over a month now and it's been rock-solid with not a single force close.
I did have a period where I had a crapload of force-closes a while back (sometime late January/early February?) but I blamed it on me messing around with my build.prop so I could use Swype. Swype is great but I didn't need it. I can't say that was the problem but after I booted into recovery via ClockworkMod .8 and wiped user data, cleared cache, cleard dalvik cache and then flashed VEGAn 5.1 and then the 5.1.1 supplemental I haven't had any problems. I also don't download any and everything that someone posts on these forums; just because I can doesn't mean I should.
I use Dropbox as well and instead of Documents To Go I've been using QuickOffice Pro and have no issues whatsoever. I am also using LogMeIn Ignition to access my work laptop from my gTab so I don't have to lug that around anymore.
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VEGAn is A-OK with me. It's a solid ROM and a LOT of users here use it.
One good thing about the GTAB mods is that you have a number of options!
SORRY!
To all of you who had the decency to answer someone who it seemed did not have the decency to say thank you....THANK YOU! I apologize that life kept me away so long but such is life. I will be trying all of your suggestions but fear now from trying to catch up in reading that the "GTab is dead" my wife wants a XOOM and I am afraid to buy that thinking it will be dead just as fast.
You know, what ever thing you buy is always going to start "getting behind" the minute you buy it. Cars, computers ... tablets. So don't worry about it being "dead". Just fix it up however you like it and enjoy it.
I'm excited to get this tablet (after ordering an Archos 101 and getting fed up with the delays) and am looking forward to tinkering with some ROMs. I have some experience with Android (rooted Droid X owner) so I have no doubt I can figure it out.
My question is which custom ROM is the best all-arounder (reliability, speed, updatable, features, support, ...)?
I'm sure each has their strengths and weaknesses, but what I'm looking for is maybe some arguments for/against each from experienced users. (And yes I've watched the youtube videos and such but its hard to tell long term satisfaction from a 5 min video) Thanks in advance.
Zeebok1337,
I'm sure people are not thrilled that I always give this answer, but I think you need
to use the stock tablet and get the stock updates for a while.
When you have charged it and turn it on the first time, you will need to find the
Settings icon and check the About tab to see what version you're on. So far people
are getting 3389.
Then set up your wifi Internet access. Within a couple of minutes, you should get
a Notification on the upper right portion of the screen telling you an OTA (over the air)
update is available -- probably 3588. If so go through the routine and D/L and
install it.
That done, you should have a good G-Tablet, but you will not have Market and
some other stuff most of us want. You also will need to go in and set the date/time
and a lot of other little details on the Settings icon.
http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet has a bunch of pages of info on the G-Tablet --
and best of all the "Favorites" tab has links to a lot of the more common D/Ls.
By the time you do this and the do your homework reading here at XDA, you should
begin getting an idea of what the tab can do and where you want to go.
I don't recommend any of the experimental stuff, or perhaps even the gingerbread
stuff until you have your feet on the ground and know what you are doing.
That means basically I think you would be happiest with the TNT Lite or Vegan ROMS.
Both basically do the same thing and speeds are compatable. In the beginning, Vegan
was a little more sophisticated with screen lock, good graphics, etc. But as VS has
improved with updates and Roebeet has added stuff, TNT Lite has become just as
sophisticated. So flip a coin or make your best guess and go from there.
You just need to take time to know what you want and how to do it so you don't
wind up with a semi-brick like all too many folks do...........
Rev
Very good info. Does any of these Roms have sync with Google calendar and Contacts ?? And if so which Rom does that ?
vaccdroid said:
Very good info. Does any of these Roms have sync with Google calendar and Contacts ?? And if so which Rom does that ?
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I can't speak for them all, but TNT Lite does. It replaces most of the Viewsonic apps with stock Google apps (The browser and the music apps being the exception). Most likely most of them do, however - just read up on their posts to see what each offers.
Thank you. I really want to leave the stock rom and if there was a way to add Google calendar and contacts sync ( like there is with Gmail with the enhancment) I would keep it but I really need my contacts and calendar. Again Thanks.
Corwins CM7 FTW.
I recommend installing a keyboard with key height adjustment like thumb keyboard, disabling the capacitive buttons with button remapper and using button savior for soft buttons.
Also, the case crown kindle dx case from amazon is a great fit and looks great.
I am in the same boat. GTablet is charging right now. I have an Archos 101 and decided to get a GTablet for playing with. I have an EVO phone but I have never rooted anything so far. I have a computer background so I can probably work it out. Also have a little help from my friends.
Woot G Tablet on the bench
First off I would like to thank Butchconner for the advice I have seen on this forum on getting started with a new G Tablet. "Leave it stock for awhile"
Mine is on the work bench right now charging. It was one of the Woot deals. I am currently using an Archos 101 I got just before Xmas and it works great with no rooting or custom ROMS. I managed to get the wife to use it to read some books from the Kindle store. Look up technophobic and my wifes picture will be there.
I got the Viewsonic because of the Woot deal (Damn that big shinny button).
I'm thinking of leaving the G Tablet stock for the wife right now but she has gotten used to the standard Android interface on her EVO phone. In fact she has gotten pretty good at using the phone.
I understand that the stock user interface for the Viewsonic is very different than what would be seen on the Android or the EVO. Right now I'd just like to get the wife using it to read books and move on to other things later.
Most of the posts regarding the rooting and updating of the ROM's seem a little excessive to me right now. What I am afraid of is the Viewsonic with the stock interface may be too foreign for my wife. Any comments from the forum users?
Thanks again.
The 3588 build (which should arrive as an OTA Update) has a more generic launcher built in. Easy to switch to it if your wife prefers the standard Android interface. No need to load a custom ROM unless you choose to.
what I did with my woot-g
charged it all the way up
started it up
added to my wi-fi
ran the update (it'll ask you to)
rooted
installed clockwork recovery, did a backup, reboot
copied backup to sdcard2
recovery, repartitioned (2048/0), factory reset, reboot
recovery, backup again, reboot
copy new backup to sdcard2, copy old backup back to sdcard
recovery, restore old backup, reboot
played a while then installed TNT lite.
probably missed a few steps but overall this made backups as soon as I could while moving forward. There is no comparison between the stock rom and TNTlite, am looking forward to trying vegan5.1.1
Yeah I jumped 20 feet forward and installed VEGAN Gingerbread even before it was fully charged. played with it a little, then read some more and installed VEGAN 5.0
loving it and haven't even scratched the surface yet.
I charged it, then when it was fully charged, i installed CWM, then VEGAN.
I never did a OTA update before installing CWM and VEGAN.
Does that mean that I messed something up or will lose some functionality?
ZB
I got mine yesterday (FL)
and as this is my 3rd tablet (wife has an augen and I have a ZT180) I have to say that the ROM that is pre loaded is MUCH better than you have heard.
Now it may not be lightening fast, but what will you be comparing it to?
No Market, but I have about 9 DVD's full of APK's that I will NEVER get through.
That being said I DID the TNTLITE update, but then again I cant even ESTIMATE the number of FW flashes I have done since I got the Augen in August (which BTW is also a pretty decent tablet)
but I have to say, there is a RUMOR around the net that ONE of the more recent updates from viewsonic will NOT allow a 3rd party flash, but like I said I did 1 over the air update to 3588 and then went TNTlite
but I also have a lot of experience doing them, BUT I will say hands down this is one of the best tablets I have used (even at the retail price)
HoLyCoWzOrZ said:
I charged it, then when it was fully charged, i installed CWM, then VEGAN.
I never did a OTA update before installing CWM and VEGAN.
Does that mean that I messed something up or will lose some functionality?
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No....Vegan should have entirely replaced the original firmware so it made no difference whether you updated or not.
I've only really used Cyanogenmod on my HTC Incredible. On my tablet, thus far, I've tried vanilla, Cyanogen, and Vegan. I think I've found Vegan to be my ROM of choice.
TNT Lite
I just flashed the newest edition of TNT lite (4.4.0) and I was blown away by how easy it was. I would really recommend it. Very easy to use for anyone who is not a pro at this kinda stuff.
Woot Deal
Hey guys just got the tab off woot. Charged it then. Loaded clockwork then cleared cache data then rebooted. Then added tnt 4.2 it worked for about 6 hours then of course when I tried to turn it on it keeps rebooting. What should I do? Is it a good idea to take the tnt off? Or can I do that? I'm just pretty upset right now. Can anyone help me out please?
To fix the boot loop you will need to repartition the card and then reinstall the ROM. Boot into clockwork mod then select repartion and set 1st selection to 2048 and second to 0. This will wipe your tab tho. You will then have to reinstall the ROM.
Thanks
You saved my life man. For some reason the stock rom has been erased for the tab also. Does anyone have the stock rom?
mernst2 said:
You saved my life man. For some reason the stock rom has been erased for the tab also. Does anyone have the stock rom?
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Stock ROMs found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000
Thanks for stopping to read this.
I wanted to know if this has been rooted yet, and also if I can load it up to honeycomb yet?
On a side note does anyone know if the snes and other emulators work well on it?
RiffyDivine said:
Thanks for stopping to read this.
I wanted to know if this has been rooted yet, and also if I can load it up to honeycomb yet?
On a side note does anyone know if the snes and other emulators work well on it?
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Hello,
Replacing with the firmware makes the device root. You have multiple to choose from. TNT lite. Vegan Etc..
I have not seen honeycomb firmware yet but the word is that the devs are looking in to in and will be available once it is fully tested.
I have seen the emulators work on the viewsonic so the question to that is YES..
Enjoy..
I think most of us bought this for the hardware knowing that Android developers will eventually bring us everything we want and more. If the tab can't do "it" now I am sure it will soon.
cd112 said:
Hello,
Replacing with the firmware makes the device root. You have multiple to choose from. TNT lite. Vegan Etc..
I have not seen honeycomb firmware yet but the word is that the devs are looking in to in and will be available once it is fully tested.
I have seen the emulators work on the viewsonic so the question to that is YES..
Enjoy..
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Thanks, it will be here tomorrow. I just needed to find the specs sheet on tiger and was sold. Can't believe it's a 150 dollars off right now, it's less then my cellphone was. Glad it is on sale, it can replace the crappy dual boot viewsonic tablet I got. Wish it had said on the site hey this isn't real android on here.
I was also reading, people say flashing a CFW is simple with the gtablet. Something about how there are no blocks or anything in the way to keep you from doing it which is great. So I will just look around in here for the how to flash unless it's as simple as CWM.
Yep, just CWM! Though, possibly a touch more than normal with a simple phone, like the Droid. You need to repartition it in CWM for best results, then wipe everything, then install the ROM. Depending on the ROM, you most likely will want to install GAPPS after. That's pretty much it! Most of the ROMs come with decent kernels, I've noticed.
Good thread to step through the process.
www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016695
chadness said:
Yep, just CWM! Though, possibly a touch more than normal with a simple phone, like the Droid. You need to repartition it in CWM for best results, then wipe everything, then install the ROM. Depending on the ROM, you most likely will want to install GAPPS after. That's pretty much it! Most of the ROMs come with decent kernels, I've noticed.
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What is gapps? Is it a stock apps store just for the gtab.
RiffyDivine said:
Wish it had said on the site hey this isn't real android on here.
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It is real android, they just their own "layer" on top of it. It is fairly easy to install another Rom on this thing, just make sure you read, understand, and follow the directions carefully.
Once you get it installed, unless you feel comfortable with possibly having to do a bit of work if you "mess it up", I would try not to fool around with it too much. I've installed Vegan-Tab 5.1.1, and a kernel, and it runs fine, so I try to just use it as is...
back it up with nvflash before you start rooting....that will prevent you from bricking your tab. I just got mine last week and its amazing how well it works . I am currently testing our different roms on it to see which one I like the best. Vegan 5.1.1 and TNT Lite 4.4 are pretty nice to start off with.
TheKaz said:
It is real android, they just their own "layer" on top of it. It is fairly easy to install another Rom on this thing, just make sure you read, understand, and follow the directions carefully.
Once you get it installed, unless you feel comfortable with possibly having to do a bit of work if you "mess it up", I would try not to fool around with it too much. I've installed Vegan-Tab 5.1.1, and a kernel, and it runs fine, so I try to just use it as is...
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No no sorry, I ment the other viewsonic tablet. The one that dual boots win7 and x86 android.
rbansal2 said:
back it up with nvflash before you start rooting....that will prevent you from bricking your tab. I just got mine last week and its amazing how well it works . I am currently testing our different roms on it to see which one I like the best. Vegan 5.1.1 and TNT Lite 4.4 are pretty nice to start off with.
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Always good to backup, I assume as long as you get that even if you totally mess up you can just reflash it and try again. It will be here tomorrow around 11ish, so once I get done at the office going to get a few ciders and attack this thing.
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What is gapps? Is it a stock apps store just for the gtab.
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Depending on the package, it will be some of the missing Google stock apps. such as the Market.
One other thing - boot it and set up wireless so you can get any over the air updates before you put a new ROM on.
chadness said:
Depending on the package, it will be some of the missing Google stock apps. such as the Market.
One other thing - boot it and set up wireless so you can get any over the air updates before you put a new ROM on.
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Thanks mate, I planned to try out the stock first just to see what they did with it.
Oh, one other thing. How is the screen on this? Nice and clear? I only ask cause on the viewpad 10 I bought some months back, well the screen looks awful unless you got it maxed brightness, it just always looks like there is dust on it.
RiffyDivine said:
Oh, one other thing. How is the screen on this? Nice and clear? I only ask cause on the viewpad 10 I bought some months back, well the screen looks awful unless you got it maxed brightness, it just always looks like there is dust on it.
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I think it looks really good, as long as you are at the right angle. You probably heard that it has a narrow field of view if you tilt it up or down (while being held in landscape). But, when looking at a decent angle (tilted less than 45 degrees, maybe?) the screen itself is bright and clear.
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I think it looks really good, as long as you are at the right angle. You probably heard that it has a narrow field of view if you tilt it up or down (while being held in landscape). But, when looking at a decent angle (tilted less than 45 degrees, maybe?) the screen itself is bright and clear.
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That sounds about the same for the angles as the viewpad 10. My only problem was that it honestly always looks like a dusty. But I will know for sure in about 3 hours when I am done here. Don't most tablets have issues if you try to tilt them too much one way or another?
cdavisccs28 said:
Good thread to step through the process.
www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016695
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weird seems that link doesn't work.
EVEN WORSE, there is like 2 pixles that are red. Are they dead or just somehow locked?
Hi All,
My wife is finally fed up being stuck on 2.1 and is looking for me to update her phone. I'm pretty familiar with the process on my phone (Droid X), but I know absolutely nothing about rooting and installing ROMs on this phone.
The instructions thread sticky'd here looks pretty self explanatory, but I imagine I might have some questions during it... but there is nothing I can do about that just yet.
A couple of questions.
1) Is there anything I should know that's not in that thread. A link to ODIN would be pretty nice since I have no clue what that is (guessing it's something like RDSLite).
2) What's the current favorite GB ROM? I'm thinking about putting her on something TW based, simply because of the amount of changes that could make it a harder transition for her. I figure I can pop Launcher Pro on and let her use the TW Dialer and other menus she's used to.
3) I know I'm going to sound crazy for contradicting myself above, but what's not working in CM7? I haven't put my X on CM7 because there are some things not working entirely, but I'd consider it depending on what's missing.
4) Since the X's bootloader is still locked, I have no experience flashing radios and kernels. I'm assuming these should be outlined pretty closely in whatever ROM I choose to install.
Any other general advice would be appreciated, I'd like to get this done either tonight or tomorrow.
Kind of on a random note, I thought she was supposed to be on at least 2.2 stock. She's still on 2.1 for some reason, and I could swear I read about a 2.2 update a while ago, which gave me a bit of a surprise when I read 2.1-update1 in the Firmware version.
Thanks for your help!
Read this link... It has everything you need to get started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
If you went to settings/about phone/updates? There will be an option to check for system updates. It's been a while since I've looked at that setup, but it's in that general area. I would definitely recommend Vanilla GB for your wife if you're looking for simple but intense performance. I switch between all the MTD GB roms, I love all of em.
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Thanks guys.
She's looking for stability more than anything, but I want her to be familiar and not lost.
If she decides she wants TW later, can it be put on later or is it completely ripped? I just don't want to need to flash this multiple times.
I'm leaning towards PowerWash GB now; can't tell if GB is still in dev. Thinking maybe I should just use one of the Froyo ones.
Thoughts?
Check out the "stickies" section in development. There are multiple official restore packages in case you mess up. Look in the "Going from Vanilla GB/etc etc to any other ROM" thread. You can move mountains with that one.
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EtherBoo said:
Thanks guys.
She's looking for stability more than anything, but I want her to be familiar and not lost.
If she decides she wants TW later, can it be put on later or is it completely ripped? I just don't want to need to flash this multiple times.
I'm leaning towards PowerWash GB now; can't tell if GB is still in dev. Thinking maybe I should just use one of the Froyo ones.
Thoughts?
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Until powerwashed gingerbread gets a kernal, the pw 1.2 ed05 is faster since it has the otb-fusion 1.6 kernal. Also if your phone can handle the undervolt, the 0808 pbj kernal works nice to. Again everything you need is in the link I posted. Even includes a going back to stock tutorial, with vzw official 2.2.2 ed05 package from pentafive.
Just got it working on CM7. Woooo.
I had her playing with Vanilla and she seems to not like it.
I tried to get her onto PowerWash and it was not very happy. Odin kept crapping out.
Any suggestions as to how I could get a TW ROM on via CWM? Most of them seem to require Odin, and I don't see too many tutorials around (unless I'm missing something). I'd rather make her use vanilla than put her back on Froyo though...
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
kalojado said:
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
kalojado said:
Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
ashclepdia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!