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My Brother was checking out my new 3VO over the weekend, he liked it, and is an iPhone guy. But he does make a good point, he can not stand the stupid placement of the power button to activate the phone on. You have to reach you're finger all the way to the top of the phone, and press down hard to wake up the phone.
He says Apple does it right, you just press the thumb button on the bottom of the phone to wake, and is very fast and simple. I have to agree
A better placement would be just below the volume buttons, or left side, just below the charging port.
Man up. Hit the button.
It's not like you're trying to turn on the phone in a gun fight while reloading... it's not that serious.
I prefer it on the top. My buddy just picked up a Samsung Charge & I noticed it has it on the side.
Short fingers seem to be the problem, not placement of the power button. If he's got short limbs, this should be the least of his problems.
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With the button on top I don't have to worry about accidentally turning on the phone when I take it out of my pocket grabbing it from it's sides.
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I actually like it on the top. You're less likely to accidently turn it on in your pocket. And the power button on my EVO 3D is really easy to press without pressing down hard.
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Zorachus said:
My Brother was checking out my new 3VO over the weekend, he liked it, and is an iPhone guy. But he does make a good point, he can not stand the stupid placement of the power button to activate the phone on. You have to reach you're finger all the way to the top of the phone, and press down hard to wake up the phone.
He says Apple does it right, you just press the thumb button on the bottom of the phone to wake, and is very fast and simple. I have to agree
A better placement would be just below the volume buttons, or left side, just below the charging port.
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Damn your lazy
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It was all a matter of patterned behavior.. I had the Evo and switched to Epic. I then had to learn to press it on the side. I switched to Evo 3d and I have to retrain again. Doesn't matter TOO much where the button is, once you retrain yourself for it.
On top is where it belongs. If you want a rinky dink dime sized hard button on the front, you'll have to do what Apple did and waste 40% of the front surface for things other than the display. That's why Apple's displays are the size of a postage stamp: wasted space on the front for things that don't belong there.
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I actually like it on the top. You're less likely to accidently turn it on in your pocket.
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This is likely the main reason it's on top. You tend to grip the sides when putting it in your pocket, purse, fanny pack, butthole, etc., and having it on top pretty much eliminates that. Also it's probably morel likely to get bumped awake with the button on the side. I don't think there's really a perfect place for a power button, but I prefer HTC's placement. Now the placement of the charging port on the 3D, I have an issue with.
When I hold the phone in my left hand like usual, my pointer finger can comfortably turn it on... no complaints here---aside from the power button being wobbily, due to the design of the casing.
Doesn't really matter to me, but I liked how it was on the top-right side on the Epic a little better.
The iPhone power button is on the top as well. The home button just acts to wake from sleep. If your iPhone is off, you still need to reach all the way up there to turn it on. It's more about capacitive buttons than anything else.
What I wouldn't mind is if the camera button served to wake on a long press, maybe even launching the camera app directly on a second press.
Sure. you might get some accidental wakes/pictures (which could be entertaining), but there would be some nice functionality with that.
Tell him he needs to hit the gym if he is having a hard time pressing the power button
^ O snap!1
I like the placement of the power button. At least they are consistent with all their devices. The volume button is what gets me but not a big deal. I wont pick at minor things because what would make me happy, may not make others happy.
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I prefer it on the top.
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I like to change things up every so often. You know? Get creative with it...
No, on the top is for the best. I have a Samsung focus too. Tue power button is on the side. I'm always turning the screen back on when I set it down by accidentally hitting the stiff breeze activating button.
This one needs a stronger button too. I fixed that though.
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Anywhere other than the top or the screen and it would be pressed on the time on accident. If it were on the screen, it would take up space, and if it were a software button on the screen then the screen would have to stay on and eat your battery.
You are a duche bag original poster. This phone is the too of the line the epic of phones... And you are question the power button... May you not get laid because of your phone
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Has anyone noticed the power button being extra sensitive? That is to say, on the Hero/Evo, you had to hold the power button for at least 2 seconds before the pop-up Power Options menu would display. On my 3vo, it pops up in less than a second. I'm finding it slightly annoying, because the space between "sleep" and "power options menu" is too narrow.
Not mine....
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Has anyone noticed the power button being extra sensitive? That is to say, on the Hero/Evo, you had to hold the power button for at least 2 seconds before the pop-up Power Options menu would display. On my 3vo, it pops up in less than a second. I'm finding it slightly annoying, because the space between "sleep" and "power options menu" is too narrow.
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work on reseating the back shell of the phone, i had the issue too at first and i thought it was a defect, but i played with it a couple times and got it to work like a normal power button
Nope not at all, I actually have to press it more than once sometimes and harder the second time for it to work......
yea mine is a lil sensitive...cant have it my pocket because of it..pulled it out a couple times and the phone bouncing around in my pocket opened apps and almost called ppl
Throw an OtterBox on there....
you have to give it a little lovin- WON"T happen by accident.
Also - saved my3D from a nice 5 foot drop courtesy of some Crazy 3 yr olds on the 4th.
mine is like that and I hate it!!!
U guys have cases on the phone? I guess not
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I actually find the new power button a little bit better to my liking, a lot easier to find in a blind poweron. But I do agree that it might be a little too sensitive. I've found that the phone turns itself on while in my pocket - which is a bad thing because on shake the led flashlight turns on lol! Of course that kills the battery...
Also when trying to turn on or off... sometimes i see the turn off, reboot menu pop up which just simply put, never happened with the evo og. And while i like the ease of use and how fast it reacts to turning off/on, it seems to be a bit of a problem ATM
not not at all sensitive. it's actually under sensitive. some time i get frustrated because i have to push it so hard in the exact sweet spot just to get it to turn on. after having it for over a week now it's getting better, but at first i couldn't even get the thing turned on.
Not mine in fact mine is kinda hard to push. I'm going to the Sprint store I bought mine from this weekend to see if I can get it switched out because I have light leaking through the ring that surrounds the search key, and it bugs the hell out of me lol. So I hope my new one is gonna be normal.
This happens to me with or without the case. I did have a very brief time where the power button would not respond at all, and discovered that the back was causing it (I had swapped the OEM 8G card for my 32).
I don't think this is a big enough problem for me to try and swap the phone out, although it is a little annoying. I suppose in time I'll learn not to push the power button too long.
I have the same problem with the sensitive power button but I'm on a Samsung Galaxy S. I'm wondering if there is dust in the way... Anybody ever find a fix or diagnose the problem for this? I've seen the same problem across multiple devices on the forums so I am starting to believe its a wear and tear type of thing.
Mine is kinda sensitive. But not as sensitive as the one I saw at my local sprint store. Interesting how it seems like no two EVOS are the same.
Good thing though is that since the button is built into the backcover... Maybe picking up another one can deliver a more sensitive/stiff experience.
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Right, the reason I have started this thread is, I see some discomfort using Back capacitive button. I am not complaining that buttons don't respond to touch, they do. All 3 of them.
Let me give you an example: I am playing with the phone, doing something on the screen. After, let's say few minutes, I want to go back, so I touch Back button, but it does not respond. I press few more times and eventually it registers. Some people would say "hit and miss" or "there is an issue with capacitive buttons". I say no, because I am touching it there, where I supposed to, also once it start registering, every time I press it, it registers (I have haptic feedback on, so I know it works). I have problems only, when I am not touching capacitive buttons for some time.
I hope I explained this well. I think this is, what in some reviews has been described as "hit and miss" or "capacitive buttons not register". Do you have the same problem? If yes, why is that happening? Is it software or hardware?
I don't have this problem because I realised that the most sensitive and best working area
for left/right button isactually in the inside space rather than exactly on those little points.
So once I press slightly to the middle, it works. It requires also a little longer press.
Ok, I will try that.
I do agree on the buttons. Probably the only thing to get used to, but one you do, no phone like it period! This is sick an amazing phone it is rediculous
The back button on my phone @ left corner is actually the best out of the three. and maybe I feel the same way about the middle "HOME" button where it registers little higher than the other two. actually I have hit it few times accidentally while I was trying to push the space bar on keyboard.
But every time I felt the haptic feedback, button worked.
I am happy with the performance of the buttons. It seems like they work like the power and eject buttons on the PS3. They respond when you remove your finger.
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The only thing I have to get used to...
Almost no extra hits anymore...
One touch is most of the times correct registered :-(
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Right, so by looks of it, there is no issue. Something I have to get used to. Thanks a lot guys. I also hope it will help future buyers as well.
I have not had any problems with the capacitive buttons so far and tbh i prefer them to hardware buttons like on the arc/play etc
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
I used to have a Nexus One and the buttons are similar to that, you sort of have to roll/slide your finger upwards on the button ever so slightly.
I barely notice it but I know what you mean.
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Good tip.
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indesisiv said:
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Yep doing the same
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pixate said:
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
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How can you be serious? I have both, and as perfect as the Xperia S is as an upgrade, its capacitive buttons are not as sharp and fool proof..that's my only gripe ...
Example situation of problem:
Right after finishing recording a decent length FullHD video, pressing home or back needs to be done repeatedly to register (MOST of the time).
Not a deal breaker, but I so hope this is software related..
I have the same issue but after one day of owning this phone im learning where to press to get a response first time
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Yeah, that works very well. Thanks.
I am just glad we have sorted it out and it turned out it is not a software or hardware issue. After reading some advises, my phone cooperates with me much better.
Is there a way to "re-calibrate" the screen or change the sensitivity?
I have found that when I need to press a button near the corner of the screen, (like on a friendstream widget to refresh), I usually have to press it several times or use my pinky.
I'm thinking either the "alignment" is off or the sensitivity needs to be tweaked (maybe my fingers are too big)
When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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interesting, I'll have to keep an eye on that.
but I'm trying to hit a small button on the top right corner of the screen.
I have the issue I mentioned before when I'm holding the phone in landscape mode with the capacitive buttons on the right, the base of my index finger where it meets my hand barely touches the screen about a centimeter above the recent apps button. I don't use the FriendStream widget, as I don't use social networks at all, but if the button is too small, it may be that your fingers are too big, but more likely you are touching the screen somewhere else. I only figured it out when I took my right hand away from the screen and was still typing with my left and the keys were working much easier for me.
Try taking the hand you're not using to press the button and put it on the bottom of the phone to hold it steady, then, using your other hand, only touch the screen where the refresh button is with your largest finger and see if it works. It may seem like really basic troubleshooting, but sometimes that's the way to go.
Failing that, try to go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> HTC Sense Input -> Advanced settings -> Calibration tool
It only lets you type in portrait mode, which is kinda dumb since most typing is done in landscape mode, at least for me. It would be nice to at least have an option to do it in landscape.
Anyway, I hope one of these solutions helps.
can use this.
andybones said:
can use this.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
andybones said:
no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
lol, gotta read the directions my friend.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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Could be. Something's definitely wrong with my Weather app.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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Something definitely wrong with your screen then. Works like a champ for me.
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So I was curious if there were any apps for controlling your phone through the proximity sensor and I stumbled across this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=novum.inceptum.proximity
The DNA is my first HTC phone, and coming from a Samsung Vibrant I can honestly say I can't stand the power button being mounted on the top. Add to that the slight angle of the phone's top edge and the stiffness of the button, and it's hard as hell for me to use the power button one-handed. Enter Proximity Actions. Now, I just wave my hand a couple times over the proxy sensor and it wakes and unlocks my phone. It can do other stuff too, but this is my main love of it. Even better, there's no need for root (for us poor folks who didn't have a chance to root before the OTA update), and it doesn't appear to drain the battery in any noticeable way. I just thought I'd recommend it since I have a feeling I'm not the only one with beef against that terrible power button. It also makes iPhone users VERY jealous... they act like you're performing voodoo or something I do think it's weird how you can see the faintest red glow from the proxy sensor while it's active... never noticed that on any other phone before.
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So I was curious if there were any apps for controlling your phone through the proximity sensor and I stumbled across this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=novum.inceptum.proximity
The DNA is my first HTC phone, and coming from a Samsung Vibrant I can honestly say I can't stand the power button being mounted on the top. Add to that the slight angle of the phone's top edge and the stiffness of the button, and it's hard as hell for me to use the power button one-handed. Enter Proximity Actions. Now, I just wave my hand a couple times over the proxy sensor and it wakes and unlocks my phone. It can do other stuff too, but this is my main love of it. Even better, there's no need for root (for us poor folks who didn't have a chance to root before the OTA update), and it doesn't appear to drain the battery in any noticeable way. I just thought I'd recommend it since I have a feeling I'm not the only one with beef against that terrible power button. It also makes iPhone users VERY jealous... they act like you're performing voodoo or something I do think it's weird how you can see the faintest red glow from the proxy sensor while it's active... never noticed that on any other phone before.
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This is cool and all but if you want to you can flash Beastmode kernel with the S2W action so you can just slide your finger across the softkeys from the back button to the multitask button and it will wake your device. Just as impressive as using the proximity sensor but without using extra juice on your phone. :good:
Edit: Didn't read that part you said about not having a pre-OTA device! My bad!!
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Very interesting!
I forgot to warn about the occasional ads that pop up... Kinda bugging me but I still love the app enough to deal with it. It's pretty rare for them to pop up outside the app itself.
And yeah, I really wish I could have all the neat features of a custom ROM... Oh well, maybe some day!
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