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Well, I suppose I wouldn't be buying this phone for me, but for my mother. I currently have the captivate, all tricked out with custom roms, software, OC/UV, and ext4 and what not, and its smooth and beautiful. Has anyone had another high end device and switched to this? I'm just curious how it stacks up, and how you think this phone will be in the future. I know the captivate had a lot of issues when it was first out, but those were pretty quickly fixed (which I assume will be the same for this phone). I suppose one concern is that I had the backflip prior to the captivate, and I'm sketchy about motorola. They had the phone SO locked down it was ridiculous. And it turned out to be a huge flop and a POS. But anyways, opinions and advice would be hugely appreciated! Compared to other AT&T phones, the only other real competitors are the Inspire (not liking specs so much) and the captivate.
commander2k said:
Well, I suppose I wouldn't be buying this phone for me, but for my mother. I currently have the captivate, all tricked out with custom roms, software, OC/UV, and ext4 and what not, and its smooth and beautiful. Has anyone had another high end device and switched to this? I'm just curious how it stacks up, and how you think this phone will be in the future. I know the captivate had a lot of issues when it was first out, but those were pretty quickly fixed (which I assume will be the same for this phone). I suppose one concern is that I had the backflip prior to the captivate, and I'm sketchy about motorola. They had the phone SO locked down it was ridiculous. And it turned out to be a huge flop and a POS. But anyways, opinions and advice would be hugely appreciated! Compared to other AT&T phones, the only other real competitors are the Inspire (not liking specs so much) and the captivate.
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Had a cappy running Paragon 6 with 1.4 OC, my Atrix is way faster (and GPS actually works). It has DDR2 ram which makes it fly. One thing you notice is even with an OC on ANY single core phone you'll notice slow down when you are doing multiple things such as installing while doing something else or if something is syncing, with the Atrix these slow downs/bogs really don't exist. I am completely happy with my Atrix, do I wish I could load a custom rom/kernel and OC it right now? Hell yes, but even going from a totally pimped out cappy to this (Stock?) Atrix I'm more than satisfied. Also the fingerprint reader on the Atrix is awesome .
As far as the Inspire it was a decent phone, when it came out 8 months ago as the Desire HD. I had an Inspire before the Atrix and here's my personal opinions. I love the bigger screen (But the atrix has a higher res), it OC's to 1.8 ghz...that's about it. As for the bad, battery life is so-so to terrible...I had it so it only used about 1-2% an hour with the screen off BUT with the screen on it was like 20% an hour (Browsing web, gaming ext.) where the Atrix is like 10% or less an hour. Ram is ok, it's DDR vs DDR2 on the Atrix (Atrix also has 1 gig of ram vs 700+ on the inspire) and I see a difference. The speaker sucks on the Inspire and call quality was lower. As far as the 1.8 OC, it destroys the already weak battery this thing has AND it still bogs when multi tasking (No real way around this being a single core).
So like I said in all honesty the Inspire was a great phone 8 months ago when it came out, but vs the Atrix it just seems to fall in it's shadow. One other thing is Inspire has CM7 but 2.3 really doesn't have any major improvements over 2.2 (2.1 to 2.2 brought JIT which rocked) so I'd like to have 2.3 but it's kinda not a big deal IMO.
Hope this helps, this is just my .02 between the two but obviously I kept the Atrix past 30 days so I've made my choice.
Well thank you very much for the really fast and reeeeally detailed response!! Yeah I have my captivate running Darky with 1.4 OC and whatnot. Super smooth, but I understand what you're saying. I do notice a substantial slow down pretty much only when installing things, but with the dual cores kicking in... beautiful lol. I actually see some ROMs already out there, well... like two. I'm sure this phone is going to get a lot of attention.
How did you feel about the Inspire next to the captivate? I don't really care for the battery drain or the specs... My personal opinion.
And I agree, they have cm7 or something like that out for the captivate, doesn't seem stable enough for me, plus I like the features on my current rom more haha.
So my mom went and bought a phone without me, the stupid sales person sold her the Inspire... Which I suppose isn't terrible, I just like the captivate and atrix more. I actually want the atrix for myself now, so I may end up giving my mom my captivate and stealing her upgrade. They want to charge me a $200 early upgrade fee!! It seems a bit steep, and I know I can't find it cheaper anywhere else. A few concerns that maybe you can address if you'd be so kind:
I love the Super amoled screen on the captivate. Is it a harsh change to lcd? Am I correct that the resolution is higher though in the atrix?
The home screen... I hate how the buttons change when you scroll. Is that changeable or would you have to install a new one altogether?
Motoblur: it was absolutely TERRIBLE for the backflip. Although I think most of that was because it was underpowered. Can you turn it off? Do you like it? (I'm sure they've made changes) How does the phone handle it?
Oh AND, do you know if it uses the entire 1Gb of ram? I know that isn't the case in most phones.
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Well thank you very much for the really fast and reeeeally detailed response!! Yeah I have my captivate running Darky with 1.4 OC and whatnot. Super smooth, but I understand what you're saying. I do notice a substantial slow down pretty much only when installing things, but with the dual cores kicking in... beautiful lol. I actually see some ROMs already out there, well... like two. I'm sure this phone is going to get a lot of attention.
How did you feel about the Inspire next to the captivate? I don't really care for the battery drain or the specs... My personal opinion.
And I agree, they have cm7 or something like that out for the captivate, doesn't seem stable enough for me, plus I like the features on my current rom more haha.
So my mom went and bought a phone without me, the stupid sales person sold her the Inspire... Which I suppose isn't terrible, I just like the captivate and atrix more. I actually want the atrix for myself now, so I may end up giving my mom my captivate and stealing her upgrade. They want to charge me a $200 early upgrade fee!! It seems a bit steep, and I know I can't find it cheaper anywhere else. A few concerns that maybe you can address if you'd be so kind:
I love the Super amoled screen on the captivate. Is it a harsh change to lcd? Am I correct that the resolution is higher though in the atrix?
The home screen... I hate how the buttons change when you scroll. Is that changeable or would you have to install a new one altogether?
Motoblur: it was absolutely TERRIBLE for the backflip. Although I think most of that was because it was underpowered. Can you turn it off? Do you like it? (I'm sure they've made changes) How does the phone handle it?
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In all honesty the inspire feels like the captivate should have out of the box except with worse battery and volume.
I'll be honest, motoblur sucks in my opinion, it isn't as bad as some people make it out to be but it still sucks lol. But since I was running custom roms on the captivate since forever I just loaded go launcher like I did on my captivate and used TiBu to freeze anything motoblur related and your good to go. It takes about 10 minutes to do this. I had a, backflop for about 2 days with 1.6 so I feel you on how slow it was. I'd say with motoblur it isnt sd low persay but you will notice it pick up with a new launcher and freezing apps.
As far as the screen, it is bright but not as sun burning bright as a captivate (I don't miss turning on the screen at 1am in bed and being blinded for the next ten minutes lol). I didn't have a problem with the screen change as the captivates colors are super saturated where as the atrix is a tad washed out, so it's personal preference. I do notice the screen resolution difference in movies tho, I feel the atrix is better. But I've also never ran into an issue where I couldn't see the atrix screen in the sun.
One other thing is the docking and hdmi you gain on the atrix, playing star fox 64 on a 50" tv in 720p with a miimote rocks lol.
The atrix does use all 1 gig of ram (more like 800 because the system reserves some like every other phone) and it's ddr2 not ddr like other phones which I think is why it's also so fast. Also since it has so much ram it holds like 20 apps in memory with 200ish always free so most common apps you load are instant. It's funny because I'll listen to pandora on the way to work at 8 and it's still loaded when I leave work at 4 (widget and all).
Any more concerns ask away ;-)
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if you like to run custom roms and lots of hacks then the atrix is probably not for you, at least not yet until it gets unlocked but the atrix has a lot less problems out of the box than the captivate. Even without all the hacks you can can do all the essentials like rooting, removing bloatware, tethering and sideloading. You can freeze motoblur and use whatever launcher you want from the market.
i like the screen on the atrix more than the captivate. i didn;t like how you can see the pixels so easily on the captivate and websites looks so much better on the atrix. theres advantages to both i guess so you should just go to the store and compare the two to see what you like better.
as for the ram if you use app killer you will have 500mb free but im starting to think that this is unnecessary with the atrix. i used to get warnings on my captivate that i was running out of memory all the time but with the atrix i can have 20 apps open in the background and still have 300mb left.
Actually with the darky rom (or the kernel, idk which one implemented the mod) they made the the screen much more dim in the dark. So I don't have that problem anymore. But I do know what you're talking about.
And that's really awesome! I didn't realize the motoblur work-around was so easy!! I think I will have my mom get the Atrix, she isn't so technologically savvy, so she won't be worrying about modding it up (but once the mods are out, I will be tinkering). It sounds like the atrix is the truly superior phone as far as specs, and it will probably stand up against other newer phones for quite awhile compared to the Inspire, but I still really like the captivate for the organic LED screen. I prefer it over any lcd screen myself, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I think that I may wait a few months and get the Galaxy S 2 or see whatever else is out there at the time. Thank you guys so much for the helpful advice and experience!!!
I went to the sprint store all psyched to finally make the jump to android and pick up a Photon. I went over to take a look at it and couldn't have been more disappointed. Not only was the UI god awful (I was willing to overlook this in expectation of new roms), but the display is simply the worst i've ever seen on a phone. It pixelizes everything. Everything looks annoyingly blocky.
Just a word of caution to those who are planning on buying the thing mail order. Do yourself a favor and find some way to see it person before you fork over your cash.
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I went to the sprint store all psyched to finally make the jump to android and pick up a Photon. I went over to take a look at it and couldn't have been more disappointed. Not only was the UI god awful (I was willing to overlook this in expectation of new roms), but the display is simply the worst i've ever seen on a phone. It pixelizes everything. Everything looks annoyingly blocky.
Just a word of caution to those who are planning on buying the thing mail order. Do yourself a favor and find some way to see it person before you fork over your cash.
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To save battery and for display purposes, stock setting for brightness is 1/2 way, go into settings and turn it up. looks great!
Not sure what phone you looked at but my photon display is on par with my old samsung epic (and vibrant when I was with T-Mobile)..this screen is brighter, clear, and not heavily contrasted like my samsung phones although it looks to have a slight blue tint?...the colors are pretty realistic and it is definitely not pixelated and blocky. Maybe you looked at the cheap Moto phone?
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To save battery and for display purposes, stock setting for brightness is 1/2 way, go into settings and turn it up. looks great!
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I keep mine turned all the way down. I don't understand the complaints about the screen. But maybe I should have my glasses updated. Lol
Matter of opinion. I checked the Photon and 3d out and thought the photon was much better. As far as blur vs sense I would and did replace then both with a custom launcher because they both suck. Vanilla is the only way to go and moto is closer to that than htc.
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Matter of opinion. I checked the Photon and 3d out and thought the photon was much better. As far as blur vs sense I would and did replace then both with a custom launcher because they both suck. Vanilla is the only way to go and moto is closer to that than htc.
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I love the display as well, and dont understand peoples complaints about it. What launcher do you use? I prefer sense, especially 3.0 over motoblur. Im currently trying launcher pro but not sure about it yet...
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Just came over from an NS4G (30 day exchange), and for me the NS4G was easier on the eyes with better colors and clarity but the Photons added .3 screen makes up for it and its brightness makes it far easier to see in sunlight than anything else I've tried. Always a trade off and there's no question that the Pentile screen improves battery life.
I'm fairy new to android but found goLauncher has everything I need for the NS4G and the Photon.
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I love the display as well, and dont understand peoples complaints about it. What launcher do you use? I prefer sense, especially 3.0 over motoblur. Im currently trying launcher pro but not sure about it yet...
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If you like sense 3.0 look in the market for sbp shell. It's expensive, but similar to sense 3.0
I use adw ex, but I'm also a cm fan.
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I'm in love with the display. I barely noticed the pixelization. Screen is way brighter than any other qhd I've seen. I came from a vibrant then to epic and now to photon and I would have to say this phone is as close to brightness and color display to samoled than any other sprint device. I love it and have no regrets. Also on the upside I could never root this phone or flash roms and I would still be satisfied.
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Just a word of caution to those who are planning on buying the thing mail order. Do yourself a favor and find some way to see it person before you fork over your cash.
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I'd say: absolutely. If you're looking for a new phone, do NOT take what you read in the forums to heart. The Photon screen does use a different technology, PenTile, that some very vocal people tend to dislike while many others either don't see the difference or don't care about it, and that at the same time offers significant advantages in power utilization, brightness, and outdoor visibility.
So, yes, go check the screen out for yourself before discounting this phone. My guess is that the vast majority of people will like it for its brightness, power efficiency, outstanding colors, and visibility in direct sunlight, and won't notice the pixelation at all.
after having a evo 4g (12 months) then a evo 3D (30 days of use) i see NO big difference, and really think some people have really nothing better to do with thier time other then critize something they don't own (like the OP), or people who want to make sure they pick on "what ever" about a new phone so they can say to THEMSELVES the phone they had purchased earlier is better.
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I went to the sprint store all psyched to finally make the jump to android and pick up a Photon. I went over to take a look at it and couldn't have been more disappointed. Not only was the UI god awful (I was willing to overlook this in expectation of new roms), but the display is simply the worst i've ever seen on a phone. It pixelizes everything. Everything looks annoyingly blocky.
Just a word of caution to those who are planning on buying the thing mail order. Do yourself a favor and find some way to see it person before you fork over your cash.
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to each his own i guess...i came from a evo to a evo 3d then to this and i must admit that the evo 4g screen was slightly sharper, the photon screen is far from blocky...unless ur like 3 inches away from the screen, u can't notice.
i find it funny so may people are bashing this screen but praising the super amoled screens which in the most part, use the same sub pixel design. every amoled screen ive seen looks exactly identical to the photon pentile screen.
all it took was one person to say something negative for everyone to jump on the bandwagon of hate.
i like the photon screen, looks good to me. yea little pixelated here and there but its a phone....
They screen looks decent not up to Samsung standards I compared with my vibrant an it was ok a little pixelated I think others notice it more then average user
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I finally saw the "screen door" effect yesterday that I've heard people talk about and it was when I was watching a YouTube video for Party Rock Anthem but when I messed with the screen brightness I was able to pretty much make it go away. I've compared the screen side by side with my Epic and with the brightness set high on both of them I really didn't see much of an issue with the Photon. I'm blown away with the performance and versatility of the Photon otherwise. I've got the car dock and the desktop dock and both make the features of the phone outstanding. I will probably be picking up another dock so I can have one at home and one at the office.
I do love amoled displays myself. So i could understand not likeing the photons display. Having a 4.3inch screen isnt enough anymore.
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Horace said:
I went to the sprint store all psyched to finally make the jump to android and pick up a Photon. I went over to take a look at it and couldn't have been more disappointed. Not only was the UI god awful (I was willing to overlook this in expectation of new roms), but the display is simply the worst i've ever seen on a phone. It pixelizes everything. Everything looks annoyingly blocky.
Just a word of caution to those who are planning on buying the thing mail order. Do yourself a favor and find some way to see it person before you fork over your cash.
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Beknatok said:
To all those experiencing issues with the PenTile display, what is your display brightness set to?
While toying with a display model, the screendoor effect was extremely obvious to me. The brightness setting was 100%. I changed it to auto-adjust and that reduced the screendoor effect greatly. At that point, it was barely noticeable and only if I really searched for it.
Making that change made the Pentile display usable for me. To those seeing similar issues, try that out and report back if it does or does not work for you.
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The pentile display is awful. Any colored straight line like the battery display will show noticeable pixels.
There is a reason samsung left pentile and samoled+ is an actual selling point.
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There is a reason samsung left pentile and samoled+ is an actual selling point.
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You know the funny thing about your comment... is that did you know that Samsung OWNS Pentile? They bought them and their tech back in 2007.
Yeah, I think Samsung really hates them a lot too... uh huh...
My brother has the photon and I think the display is pretty decent. I'm not going to say it's amazing or better then my old epic but it is not as bad as people here are saying. I think some folks jumped in expecting a galaxy type display and were disappointed when it wasn't. That's my opinion anyways.
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Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
Please, be positive, no flaming, no telling me I should spend hours/days using search to find outdated answers to my questions- this has the potential to help other people considering the device!
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Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
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See my signature. This phone suits my needs. The others have been good for what I needed them for (Sensation: similar but the Amaze has better everything; more RAM, better backlit illuminated camera, 2mp front camera, NFC, dedicated video/camera button), (Galaxy Note: has everything I needed, but camera was slightly slower and I have Tmobile and I couldn't handle the EDGE data only) I don't regret getting the Amaze. It is slightly heavier and thicker than the Sensation, but its solid.
Silentbtdeadly said:
Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
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Battery life is not that great if you are a power user. I have 3 batteries and it gets me through the day. I usually do not need to use the 3rd battery. I use the phone for practically everything. Gaming: Shadowgun 30mins-45mins, texting: 30-50 msg, Netflix streaming: Yo Gabba Gabba 30mins, Music playing via bluetooth headphone 1hr at the gym, phone calls via car bluetooth for 30mins, regular phone calls 30mins-1hr, surfing the web 20-40mins, xda forum for 30-40mins. With all those things, I use 2 batteries. If I cut the activities in half, I can use 1battery and it will last me around 12-14hrs. (My rooted sensation did better at 16hrs, but I don't mind the 2hrs sacrifice)
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The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
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use the search button: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324177
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Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
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This phone is roughly a little over a month old. Don't expect the community to be brimming with new things, especially with the announcement of ICS. Most developers do not want to dev something that will last only 2 months and then have replaced by a totally new firmware (ICS). So there will be a slight lull during this couple of months. But there are some great developers like Xboarder56, NRGZ28, mike1986 and Revolution that is keep this phone relevant. I really appreciate these guys.
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Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
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The build quality is top notch (at least initially) for HTC phones. IMO it is definitely better than the current Samsung phones out now. The Galaxy Note was a nice phone but you can totally tell that it did not use premium material for the overall phone. The glass looked nice, but it did not have Gorilla glass.
Silentbtdeadly said:
The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
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This phone DOES HAVE NFC. Check the specs. (Near Field Communications)
http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone#/Specs
Having come from the Vibrant:
Great battery life-QS1.5.1
Great build quality
Great camera
Easy to root
Easy to backup
Easy to flash
[CWMR]
you can't really brick this phone because we're stuck with s-on. Usually bricking occurs when you mess with bootloader and radio. However, with s-on we can't change that unless its through an OTA update.
Rooting takes a minute, recovery is done with CWM recovery, so it should be familiar.
btw the vibrant sucks balls.
however the gs2 is supposedly a huge upgrade to all their crappy predecessor so you can check that out too if you're afraid of the change from samsung to htc.
You can always invest in a mytouch 4g or sensation to see how it's like. They're both AMAZING phones har har but of course they lack in hardware specs, but they're both better than any other samsung phones out there except the latest ones.
Best T-Mobile phone going right now!
Let me start by saying I have been with Android since day 1. Started with the G1, then Mytouch 3g, the Nexus One, the Vibrant, the Mytouch 4g, and now the Amaze. I have not had a problem with any HTC phones and they are all still running today. The only phone I had any issue with was the one Samsung (also still running). I am not an HTC "fanboy" if something better came along I would certainly buy that.
The Amaze is the best phone T-Mobile offers right now. Compared to your Vibrant you'll be blown away with the quality of the phone the fact that everything works as it should.
HTC has a good track record of updating their devices OS's (Even the Mytouch 3g got Froyo before the Vibrant) and they do it OTA, no Kies. HTC's have always been quickly adopted by the development community for their relative ease of rooting and overall usage of "common" hardware that allows you to make ROM's for several different devices with very little modification.
Gingerbread is not a huge leap from Froyo. Most everyday users would be hard pressed to find a real difference. What will be different is going to HTC Sense from Samsung's TouchWiz interface. This will be a case of "It's up to you" totally depends on your own personal taste. I personally couldn't stand Touchwiz.
Battery life has been a little better than my MT4g was and seems to be about on par with or maybe a little better than my Vibrant. I have not owned a phone since my Palm Treo 650 that I didn't have to charge at least daily so I don't think there will be any surprise for you here.
Lastly, the screen. It is very nice and smooth. The resolution is higher than SGS2 therefore making it very crisp. It is not AMOLED, however, so you will not have the vibrance and deep contrast of the AMO screens. Your blacks won't seem as black and your bright colors will not jump out of the screen at you like the AMO screen does. Once again this is somewhat of a personal preference but compared to the Samsung devices this may be the only slight disadvantage.
This phone has the best camera ever offered in a smart phone. It has as much or more computing power of any phone on the market. The device is very solid, it just feels high quality and it has all of the bells and whistles that any smart phone out now has including NFC. I can't imagine this phone not exceeding any expectation you would have for a smart phone, unless you need a phone with a battery that lasts several days between charges, then you my friend have un-realistic expectations. Ha!
In a nutshell..
Good -
Sharp and Bright screen. Blacks levels are ok light bleed makes it worse. Still better than GS2 screen because of sharpness and IMO color accuracy.
Very fast camera. Dedicated buttons for camera and camcorder. They also wake the phone which is a huge plus IMO.
Eye pleasing . White model looks great IMO. If this were a super light/thin phone itd be a no brainer.
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Just big , heavy, and Fn bulky. Simply doesnt feel as good as other phones in the hand.
Lack of support. I give nothing but credit for wonderful work by Xboarder and others but take a gander at GS2 forums , or when Galaxy Nexus drops there forum. I just dont expect this place to ever be buzzing with the number of great tweaks , enhancements , and features other phones may get. ICS ROMS will likely be on other phones much sooner than Amaze.
Galaxy Nexus and its HD screen are going to be available soon. Just something to consider. HD screens will be more prevalent and the Amaze fast camera and gorgeous screen wont be as impressive by weeks end.
Love my Amaze
I've had a Nexus One for over a year (prior to that it was a Droid). I've also used the original Galaxy phone as well as the Evo.
I've been waiting patiently for a Galaxy Nexus for months as a replacement for my Nexus One. After seeing the camera shots - which are identical in shot quality to the (poor) camera on my Nexus One, I knew I could not possibly get a Galaxy Nexus. For me, camera quality is very important, since my phone *IS* my point-and-shoot, and the Galaxy Nexus camera simply blows. So I gave up waiting to get a GN.
I went into the T-Mobile store to play with the GSII side by side with the Amaze. Both are very good. For me, I went with the Amaze.
1. Build quality, IMO, is top notch. Yes the phone is heavy. To me it has a really solid feel. It's like comparing a S300 Mercedes to a Fiat - both may actually provide similar reliability, but the Mercedes feels far better built.
2. The screen is excellent. I suspect the GN will be better, but side-by-side with the GSII the Amaze had the better screen IMO. The GSII's AMOLED "pops" more but the improved resolution on the Amaze made the real difference.
3. The camera on the Amaze took better photos, and I liked the software better. The flash is amazing for a camera phone.
4. Battery life has been a huge improvement over my N1/Cyanogenmod phone. In normal use I go all day easily without charging. If you aren't playing games or heavily using Maps, I suspect you'll never need to "top up."
5. Great network performance. I haven't benched the speed, but the network feels 3X faster than my N1.
6. The new Sense is much better than TouchWiz IMO.
I want to say this is some great quality feedback, definitely hit everything I asked then some. I have a multitude of reasons for wanting to upgrade from my vibrant besides the "oh, shiney!" factor. Not a huge fan of touchwhiz, poor gps performance, lack of updates, no camera button, etc.. The biggest issue I have right now is price, I'm not willing to go contract with tmobile, and I don't want to pay the current full price like I did with my vibrant-- so if anyone decides they want to get a different phone and knock a fair chunk off of their amaze to get rid of it, bookmark me(I'm looking at you deleriousbb!)
The best points for me I've read about so far:
picture quality, I do want a good camera in my phone since it is the device I have with me always, who knows how many pictures I've lost by not having a dedicated button too..
I forgot it DID have a NFC- that was the original thing I was looking for when looking for a phone, trying to find one that is a little more future proof, this phone being the only one that I could find with hardware specs that sounded good.
Hell, it even has FM radio, something I wish I had a few times now..
Heavy- I actually LIKE this, my vibrant felt far too light, I want to have a solid feeling phone, and if it can double as a brick to be used for self-defense-- so be it.
Overall this sounds like a phone worthy of upgrading to(I really want to make sure I am upgrading) from my vibrant, more or less future proof.. the only thing it doesn't have that I see in the near future is a quad core processor, and those only interest me because of the battery savings they are supposed to offer.
I don't know about the s-on thing someone mentioned, that locks the radio too? That would be the only downside I've seen so far, changing radios has been the way I get the best battery out of my phone thus far, but I suppose I can deal(and have something to research). I also don't know much about how the qHD led screen compares to the vibrant, I was looking forward to better battery life because I know amoled screens use more power than most and using black reduced that..
I guess the only question that didn't get answered is if there is a phone out or coming out that people wish they had held out for? I am not impressed by the galaxy nexus- no external sd, no camera button, lower mp camera(yes I understand better quality sensor), and a few other things.. but I am a hardware guy, and this phone is superior in specs, and the feedback makes me feel good about that.
Also, is there anyone who thinks they may be trying to sell their phone anytime soon? I see myself buying this used rather than going contract(I hate contracts), so I am going to have to wait till there is a price I like more..
Thanks again everyone for the great info, besides everything about the phone that sounded so great, it sounds like you guys are pretty friendly, supportive, and overall helpful!
Check out XDA's market there are some pretty cheap phones there. usually range about $400 for amaze. So you can sell your vibrant for iono $150? on CL and pay $250 more for an amaze.. on contract you already pay $200?
So anyways I actually have a gs2 in hand right now so i'll add some things, although it is similar to what manmythlegend said.
the gs2's connectivity is actually on par with the amaze. I would say amaze's gps is slightly faster but gs2's wifi connectivity is a bit stronger and has quicker connection time.
amaze's camera is better, GS2 appears to have more options on the camera and has their own scenes to choose from, BUT it does not compare to the amaze's scenes at all. BTW I love how the amaze's dedicated button works even when phone is locked.
Screen. the super amoled compared to the amaze's screen reminds me of mt4g good and bad displays. gs2 looks awesome when you view it from every angle. Amaze reminds me of an old LCD when you view from different angles the blacks become like gray. However, I hate how gs2 looks all stretched out and it's not as sharp. think iphone 2-3 vs iphone 4. Amaze is defintely more uhh pretty, its like the UI and icons actually pop out at you compared to gs2' where everything looks blended in a bit.
Another factor, I do not like gs2's blue tint when viewing websites or anything with a white background, it actually feels bad for my eyes. oh and amaze's color seems to be more true.
But remember this, Amaze's battery right now is SO SO, so if you're a heavy user make sure to carry a spare or your charger around.
This may seem like a bias review, but I'm actually pointing out what I normally use on a daily basis that the gs2 would not do for me as the amaze would.
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1. CAMERA (love amaze's camera and its scenes)
2. Web browsing or anything that has to do with a white background (XDA APP ahem), blue tint is no go for me..
3. base on user preference. I like the weight of the amaze. It tells me that my phone is in my pocket and that it's sturdy to carry around. The amaze's curve body makes it feels better in my hand.
There's something about the gs2 that just doesn't feel right. probably the width or depth of the phone, not exactly sure. I have about an average adult male size hands and the width of the phone might be the thing that is bothering me or that it's actually too thin that makes it feel weird, idk grip both phones, you'll see what i mean.
things that will bother you on the amaze:
the light bleed from the bottom (fixed with screen filter or other ways) and possibly the mediocre battery life.
GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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the SGS2 uses CWM recovery to flash too, you only need odin to install the recovery, after that you're golden.
I'm testing out the sgs2 for the day, and i'll update my opinion on it by the end of the day... so far battery life is good, camera is definitely no comparison to amaze, camcorder seems better though. wifi and bt connectivity is definitely stronger and connection time is quicker on the sgs2. HD games, amaze is better (more details). anything with fonts/texts goes to amaze.
It does support NFC btw, and also AT&T 4G bands.
Screen resolution is great, and its better than the S-AMOLED of the SGSII (which has some discoloration issues it seems).
The SGSII S-AMOLED has a very bright and saturated screen so the colors are shot at you, but if you are a pro as I think you are, and not a "oh, shiny!" fella... You know that definition is better and more important than brightness.
Unless you don't care, then that's different.
4G on the phone is pretty fast, and so its installing apps.
The 1.5 dual-core does not score that high on quadrant as the SGSII (especially the Exynos) does, but you know that they are to be taken with grano salis, and in everyday usage its pretty fast.
Camera is amazing, period.
Video quality is great, but sound recording should be much better on a device like this.
The HTC phone itself however, does have downsides:
Reception (its fair, but not amazing).
Battery, with heavy usage on 4G, will last you few hours. On 2G, a bit more. Phone does get warm by the way. Its not something that should worry you, but it is bothersome when you are on the phone playing a video or what have ya, you get a phone call and have to talk to a distance of the device.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
The touchscreen is tricky. It seems pretty responsive overall, but I did have doubts sometimes. But overall no big issues for me so far.
The phone also does have an heft. It doesn't seem that big a deal, until you place this 4.3" monster phone in your pocket. Its bothersome, at least to me.
Final words: I am trying to sell the HTC Amaze 4G. It is a great media device, but an horrible communication device. This solely depends on you. I have been using a BB 9700 for the past two years and I went back to it after 8 days of impossible phone calls with the Amaze, battery that lasts nothing (on the Amaze of course), and I personally suck and can't stand typing on screens. Sure, the Amaze thrashes my 9700 on so many levels, but for what I need, the 9700 does a far superior job than the Amaze.
Hope this helped.
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The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
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Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
The reception on my amaze is light years ahead of my old samsung galaxy s 4g. I would have one bar on the highway to town and the amaze has a full signal. (2g) just amazing.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
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Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
FranzDages said:
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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You should have a minimum of 14 days to exchange it from where you purchased it. After that you might have to send it in to HTC for repair/replacement.
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GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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You have obviously owned a Nexus S. We don't use Odin. Anyone who uses Odin on any Nexus (from Samsung) is a moron. Rooting and flashing recovery is all performed via fastboot and then make a clockwork backup like normal. The Galaxy Nexus will be the same way. All you need is fastboot.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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Yep if you can't exchange at store anymore then call Tmobile to do an exchange.
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14 days are now gone guys...
And when I went back and told them, they said that I had to pay $50 dollars... which I found ridiculous... So I didn't do anything apart from trying to sell the phone.
I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
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I have experienced none of those issues with the RAZR. Keep in mind that under deep dark conditions with the screen at its lowest brightness setting against a black image, many units show some "smudges" or dots. If this concerns you, definitely check one out in the store ahead of time (try downloading draw! and open the app up on the lowest brightness underneath a jacket or shirt..people will probably stare..let them..haha) and judge how this effects you for yourself. I use mine as a night clock and though I can see some smudges in the middle of the night, they don't bother me.
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I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
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I gave up on the Nexus myself. Lack of USB mass storage was the final nail in the coffin for me. I think the RAZR has the potential to turn out a better ICS device than the Nexus.
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Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I LOVE my RAZR. Best Android phone I've owned to date. (Prev: Epic 4G, Droid 2, Nexus S, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X, Sensation 4G). Under light use, the battery literally lasts for days if you make proper use of the smart actions. Heavy use? I can't comment on video playback time, but I get about 4-5 hours of 3D gaming before running into battery trouble. There is no filter to help the pixelation around text that the Pentile screen creates, but it doesn't bother me. I find myself impressed by the deep blacks and color reproduction far more often than I do focusing on the Pentile effect, but again, you should view this in person yourself to be sure as everyone is different.
I haven't had the phone very long, only about a week, but so far no issues whatsoever with overheating or freezing at all. This wasn't the case with my OG droid or my droid 2 global.
I got this phone from someone else, so I don't have a contract and will probably switch to the droid 4 when it comes out, but won't consider the Galaxy Nexus at this point, as I can't have a plastic phone. I'm hard on my phones with keeping them in the same pocket as keys, and other items, and have broken many a plastic mounted phone just from that alone.
I do, however don't like the size of the phone overall. I find it a bit too large for me, and have had issues handling it....I'm hoping the Droid 4 has a bit smaller overall dimensions. Also I find the keyboard gives a better grip to the phone...but that's personal preference.
If you're adjusted the Rezound size, you shouldn't have an issue with this.
For screens, this screen is great. I actually was lucky and got one without the dark dots in dark light, so I can't comment on that experience, but the pentile is really almost imperceptible to me. You really have to strain your eyesight to pick up the pentile on this screen. I also agree with brianbrain on the deep blacks and color reproduction on the phone. It's a very good screen, IMO.
I've never owned an HTC phone, but have heard a few complaints similar to what you're talking about with their phones. I know Motorola is not always forthcoming with updates, and they release phones so quickly, you feel they're just out there to screw the consumer, but my experience has been completely different. I couldn't have lived without my OG droid, until the screen went out 1.8 years later, and I had my D2G that was a KILLER phone until I left in Thailand recently. The RAZR is a great addition to the Droid line, and I've had a blast with it since I got it last week.
Phone is awesome. Nothing wrong with this phone. Best phone I've had.
I'm more in live with this phone then the thunderbolt I had. Tbolt felt cheap. screen quality was lacking, and it just seemed slow. I know the rezound is different then the tbolt. But i'm leary on any HTC phone.
The razr feels very solid, very fast and the screen is great (even with the splotches in very low light). I've had battery issues with the media process. I haven't hooked my phone up to a 3.5mm input, so I can't say about any hissing. Having hooked it up to my Bose ie2, it absolutely sounds fantastic.
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I had an Incredible 2, which is kind of the oddball in the HTC lineup as it is one of their only phones that has GREAT battery life (even more ironic considering the T-bolt was so bad and the phones are so similar in hardware) I ended up getting a Razr recently because long story short Verizon was struggling to get 4G going on my tablet on their end so I said screw it and told them to send me a 4G phone.
Even coming from the Inc2, the Razr is a lot better on battery than I thought it was gonna be. Worse than the Inc2 for sure, but it has a bigger display and faster hardware. On 3G (LTE isn't in my specific city yet, but I've used it in others) I make it all day, and I work for 12 hours and use the phone moderately to heavily when I take breaks and get bored. That's acceptable for me considering no matter what I do, I'm gonna plug the phone up at night regardless. When in 4G areas, the speeds are pretty impressive and consistently good. I was averaging 20mbps down and 11-15 up in Augusta, GA.
I played around with the Rezound in the store. It's not a knock on the Rezound specifically, I have not been impressed at all by Sense 3.5. They may as well call it Sense Vista. On the Incredible 2 we have a few Sense 3.5 roms and while they're pretty, to me I can't find the will to run them as a DD because they're laggy. At the time I chalked it up as the Single core snapdragon in the Inc2 struggling to run such a big and graphic intense rom. Then I played around with the Rezound. No real difference. Both are pretty slow compared to Sense 2.1/3.0 honestly. Hopefully Sense 4.0 and ICS will change that, but I'm doubtful given HTC seems to be getting lazier with every new version of Sense.
After a week and a half with the Razr:
Screen rocks IMO
Battery life is better than expected. I go all day (12-14 hours) on one charge, using 4G (maybe 30-40 minutes of phone calls).
Phone is very fast
Width is very akward at first, but you get used to it. First few days you freak out every time you grab for it.
Smart Actions will be great once they tweak them a bit
Voice quality and signal for phone is awesome (coming from an HTC Inc)
I was really wanting a Nexus, got impatient. The battery life, voice quality, and screen on the Nexus would have to be WAY better to make me send the Razr back.
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
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I'm coming from the Nexus S. Like the phone so far. Motorola did a pretty good job considering I usually like stock Android.
UI doesn't feel intrusive. Motorola seems to have added a lot of useful functions. Been running ICS on the Nexus S, but don't miss it due to the RAZR's hardware.
The phone is amazingly fast. Feel like I've been wasting my time modding the Nexus S so much lately cause the RAZR blows it out of the water even with all the bloatware.
Only problem I've run into so far is blotches on the screen when it is black and the room is dark. Not as bad as some other pics I saw, but still going to try and exchange. Also found a dead pixel.
If I can get a device with a good screen, I think I will stay with the RAZR. I've only seen the Galaxy Nexus display model... possibly might exchange for it when it comes out.
Really like the form factor of the RAZR better tho. If the RAZR had a 720p screen I'd probably be able to easily ignore the Nexus.
Chelsea FC said:
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS [/QUOTE]
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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Im getting razr tomorrow buying it outright optus network TELECHOICE (GSM AUS)
for $600 from monne ponds vic (told the guy id give him a plug)
i'll let you know how it goes in terms of battery life on GSM
as far as i know motorola's antennas are PRETTY SWEET ... so dont worry about reception.. worry about downloading lots to feed that screen with awesome multimedia and moto cast
samsungs antennas are not bad... but motorola's track record with radios is proven (from UHF RADIOS to SATs experience counts)
nexus has ics but is trolling with bugs i had a play with it ... also looks so ugly next to the razr ... only good thing is the screen .....
however that said the bugs with ics troll the phone making it laggy and you can get jerky playback
so i decided get razr with ginger (motoblur customised to be more like an unbuggy ics) then next year when things perfect the razr will get ics
anyhow thats my rant hope it helps =]
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Hard for me to compare since I'm using T-Mobile and Verizon right now. T-Mobile's reception isn't too great in my area, so that's a main reason for me switching.
So far the reception on my RAZR has been great. Blows my Nexus out of the water in that respect, but not sure how much of that is attributed to the phone itself.
Definitely want to keep this phone... just wish the screen problems didn't exist.
google and motorola
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
rzrsharp said:
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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Got a friend who works over at Moto mobility. He was one of the lead design heads on the Xoom & Droid 4.
The Google acquisition isn't going to truly affect platform builds and blur reductions till late 2H 2012.
They are still working out details on who and what is going where, and how programmers are going to be moved and cut. There's also the small thing of full FCC approval which still hasn't happened as well as EU approvals, which are needed for this (for more info, check out the WSJ article that came out yesterday on the subject). That should be completed by about Feb/March according to him, and then we'll really see some interesting movements. Right now everything is in stasis as far as building and coding are concerned.
So I wouldn't expect any increases in update frequency for a while, and I definitely wouldn't count on Android becoming less bloated on new moto phones for a while to say the least.
There's also been a lot of talk in his office about how Google may not put anything in place, because it could affect their relationship and promises to other handset makers, if they start tweeking with Moto's team a whole bunch.
I'll release info as I get it from him.....although he's interviewing with the automotive division of Moto, as he's not all that satisfied with the position at mobility. They have HEAVY requirements and deadlines, that he seems to think are totally unrealistic....but hey...how many people are really happy with all aspects of their job??
I wonder if the screen issue has been resolved (or even exists) in the GSM versions out there right now. Thinking of getting the Razr but am holding back due to development and the screen issue... Can someone give me an answer about this?
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Was considering holding out for the Nexus
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With a release date of tomorrow, you don't have long to wait on the Nexus, better be at BB early to make sure you get one.
Droid RZR
I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I kinda have the same issue with you. I think it could be my router because out of the 3 routers that I have tried, only 1 is experiencing this problem. And only with the Razr that this happens. Something to do with the router and the phone settings? Anyone knows what might be the problem?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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Read my Thread "Galaxy Nexus" I in general (razr) I just got word I'll have my press sample tomorrow so they are going to release after all. They should be at Best Buy tomorrow as well.
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
KenjiS said:
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
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I usually get about a day out of my one X +, I'm using insert coin rom. The only way to have little to no bloat is a custom rom. The performance Imo is pretty good. I used to have a galaxy s2 and the screen, performance, build quality on this phone is far better. The audio quality is pretty good as well. Turning Beats audio on will dramatically increase the volume output through headphones. Rooting and unlocking the device is easy due to the fact that hasoon developed a all in one kit for the device. It is really easy to do with his program. I get around 15+ mbps where I'm at using lte.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
If you are ok with Sense everything else is awesome with One X+ ... Once we get CM it should be great. Also check out the LG Optimus G, that one is fast and buttery smooth phone.
Just to touch on a few points I have the att one x+ and lte is great on it. The battery is gonna be what you make of it. You can adjust the settings and get what you want out of it. Of course with beats audio the audio is good. The rooting is very easy esp. With the tool by hasoon2000. The bloatware comes with every phone esp if you run stock, although a custom Rom can take care of that!
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So basically get it, root it, and ill be happy?
theres a link to the Hasoon all in one on the forums i am assuming?
KenjiS said:
So basically get it, root it, and ill be happy?
theres a link to the Hasoon all in one on the forums i am assuming?
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Yes youll be happy and yup here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
Backmankiller said:
Yes youll be happy and yup here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
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Thanks! I was just checking out the ROMs, That Elegancia one looks awesome (Black and Blue are my colors on top of it) and the screens im seeing of 17h of battery life are definitely making me feel better...
Is there a handy dandy text guide for doing this? I know, sounding pretty dumb.. I think I might kinda have it.. basically all i need is Hasoon's toolkit thing and the file of the ROM i want to use
-Get hasoon's toolkit
-Unlock Bootloader
-Flash TWRP
-Flash the Kernal
-Enjoy?
Correct enjoy away, I've been enjoying mine the day I rooted mine.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
KenjiS said:
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
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Wow we are almost in identical situations. I had the Gnex and have hated the phones performance since 4.2. I have been going back and forth between getting a one x+ or a note 2 for a couple weeks now. I love the build of the one x+ but that 5.5" screen was really calling my name, so I picked up the Note 2 from ATT today. I really like the phone, but am still considering exchanging it for the one x+ to get the better in hand feel and also beats audio since I love my bluetooth Beats headphones. The storage isn't a big deal for me as 16 GB has been plenty, but extra is always good to store videos and pics on. I will probably keep my Note 2 for at least a week before making any decisions on an exchange. I really wish the one x+ had 2 gb of ram though to future proof it a little more and also worried that they will come out with a 1080p version on AT&T shortly and make it obsolete within no time. Update the post with your thoughts if you get the one x+, as I'm interested to know how you like it compared to stock 4.2 on Gnex.
KenjiS said:
Thanks! I was just checking out the ROMs, That Elegancia one looks awesome (Black and Blue are my colors on top of it) and the screens im seeing of 17h of battery life are definitely making me feel better...
Is there a handy dandy text guide for doing this? I know, sounding pretty dumb.. I think I might kinda have it.. basically all i need is Hasoon's toolkit thing and the file of the ROM i want to use
-Get hasoon's toolkit
-Unlock Bootloader
-Flash TWRP
-Flash the Kernal
-Enjoy?
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Regarding battery, I went for about 40 hours on it Thursday/Friday last week (no screenshot, sorry) when I forgot to charge overnight Thursday. It was fairly light use, but still had over 25% at about 6:30 Friday night. I then had to use the flashlight for a little while (walking home in the dark and wanted cars to be able to see me) and it dropped down to about 15%, but that was to be expected.
scottyb0721 said:
Wow we are almost in identical situations. I had the Gnex and have hated the phones performance since 4.2. I have been going back and forth between getting a one x+ or a note 2 for a couple weeks now. I love the build of the one x+ but that 5.5" screen was really calling my name, so I picked up the Note 2 from ATT today. I really like the phone, but am still considering exchanging it for the one x+ to get the better in hand feel and also beats audio since I love my bluetooth Beats headphones. The storage isn't a big deal for me as 16 GB has been plenty, but extra is always good to store videos and pics on. I will probably keep my Note 2 for at least a week before making any decisions on an exchange. I really wish the one x+ had 2 gb of ram though to future proof it a little more and also worried that they will come out with a 1080p version on AT&T shortly and make it obsolete within no time. Update the post with your thoughts if you get the one x+, as I'm interested to know how you like it compared to stock 4.2 on Gnex.
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I'm shocked I'm seeing others that are.. It makes me feel good at least (or rather better about it) My only debate now is to wait for xmas or to just go buy it now... Nervous that they're going to throw it on sale in a week or something stupid (I remember the original One X dropping price quickly)
But yes, I will be sure to upload my thoughts when i get it
This is about 14 hours from off-charge with 4+ screen time and 33% battery left, running on InsertCoin for att with no mods...
Dottcent said:
This is about 14 hours from off-charge with 4+ screen time and 33% battery left, running on InsertCoin for att with no mods...
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Perfectly happy with that! The most I've done on my Nexus (checked my logs) was 18h 6m on battery, 5h 58m Screen on (33% brightness though so the screen lost a lot of its luster) which brought it to 11% life...Thats with a 3500mah extended battery however! (so stock is -half- that)
Theoretically with that number, if i drained the One X+ to 11% (For apples to apples) It sounds like it would be roughly the same...
Just an update, Got my One X+ in my hand right now!
Love it so far, my first reaction is HOLY WHAT THE -expletive- with the speed, This thing -flies-
And the screen is gorgeous
and LTE is nice, However i still dont seem to get a reliable LTE connection at my house Bummer, But unlike the S3 its NOT constantly flopping to the weak LTE signal, instead it seems to prefer the strong HSPA+ connection instead, So kudos to HTC for a better modem software!
I came from a GNex too. I'm liking this phone a lot. Having lte and a better camera are a plus, I miss the on screen nav buttons because it was customizable adding buttons or whatnot, but I'm getting used to it. I was debating between s3 or this, and I was absolutely sick of touchwiz which my old skyrocket so I went with htc. I'd much rather have sense than samsung's touchwiz.
BIGSx420 said:
I came from a GNex too. I'm liking this phone a lot. Having lte and a better camera are a plus, I miss the on screen nav buttons because it was customizable adding buttons or whatnot, but I'm getting used to it. I was debating between s3 or this, and I was absolutely sick of touchwiz which my old skyrocket so I went with htc. I'd much rather have sense than samsung's touchwiz.
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I gotta say it blows the S3 out of the water... Only complaint i have is that the volume rocker is a little hard to find (Not a big deal) and it took me a bit to figure out how to turn spellcheck off..
Overall im not hating the Sense look, it looks great to me, The phone is loud (Thank god) and the quality of the external speaker is "meaty" I've watched a youtube video on it and im planning to sit here and drain out my initial charge watching some vids lol..Cant test music yet because i have yet to connect it to Wi-Fi to AirSync to my Doubletwist library...
The Signal strength on it is impressing me, its managing to keep the LTE signal solid in my room despite it not being the strongest signal, if i go downstairs i lose LTE entirely and jump to HSPA+ which isnt bad
As for battery, im using the charge it had on it when i unboxed it, So far so good, it seems to actually be better than the S3 i had, but that could be because HTC's radio optimization (or antenna) are just working a lot smoother, Im not seeing it spasticly jumping from HSPA+ to LTE every 3 seconds
The performance of it has my jaw on the floor though, Google Now is smooth, VERY smooth, the speech to text stuff flies on it, Theres no delay in anything im doing on it and its just amazing me.. I mean i knew itd be fast, but wow, this thing is FAST
-edit- Just put it to charge, no clue what i started with but i brought it down to about 8%, Wanted to drain the initial charge as much asi could before recharging which took about 3.5 hours, So far no complaints, Downloaded the BetterBatteryStats app too so i can get a good read on the battery (As the stock battery info thing isnt as nice as the Nexus' and doesnt show me my screen on time)
KenjiS said:
Just an update, Got my One X+ in my hand right now!
Love it so far, my first reaction is HOLY WHAT THE -expletive- with the speed, This thing -flies-
And the screen is gorgeous
and LTE is nice, However i still dont seem to get a reliable LTE connection at my house Bummer, But unlike the S3 its NOT constantly flopping to the weak LTE signal, instead it seems to prefer the strong HSPA+ connection instead, So kudos to HTC for a better modem software!
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What carrier is your phone and what was the update for?
Andrew149 said:
What carrier is your phone and what was the update for?
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Huh?
Anyways one problem, Google+ is for some reason not letting me pick who to share with (IE which circles and that) it just sits there loading... Already tried clearing data and reinstalling the app a few times.. didnt work...
-edit- Nevermind, got it working, Turned off fast boot/shutdown and it fixed it for some reason (I read it caused issues with stuff somewhere..)
Still breaking it in, But today was the first day i really used it off the charger
Went from 8am to 10pm, Still had 20% left on it, Around 3 hours of screen on time... Certainly wasnt panicking i was going to run dry if i pulled it out to do something, if i go by the battery stats, i averaged 5-6% per hour.. This was me simulating a "normal" day wherein im not using it constantly, Because you know, That kills just about any phone lol
if its like my Nexus was, the first few charges arent as strong as later ones...
I'm really not finding problems with it either...Still running stock FYI
Love the look of the phone too... Sense definiately looks nice.. and im not seeing it hogging resources or anything... My One X+ is nothing but smooth and silky constantly...
Thanks for the updates. I'm still debating what I want to do. So far I'm loving my Note 2, but size is an issue at times. Its biggest pro and con is the screen. Sounds like the one x+ is a really nice phone though.
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