Hi there friends, just upgraded firmware from KE8 to KF3, and have lost root. So have to root again. Pls confirm if the procedure for rooting and removing the yellow triangle after root is exactly the same as done before using CF method? Are these the kernels to use:
Kernel to flash while rooting with Odin: CF-Root-SGS2_XW_CLK_KF3-v4.0-CWM4.tar
and for reverting to stock kernel to remove yellow triangle : I9100XWKF3_Kernel.tar (Intratech's thread)
If you confirm that the above two files are the correct ones, I'll go ahead and root. Pls advice. Thanks & Cheers!
Yes just follow instructions
jje
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Ok. Done already. I guess if you've done it once, you can do it n number of times. Was just being careful Now to find out what are the changes in the new KF3 version. Will check the threads already there on KF3 now. Cheers!
Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Limitless 1 voids your warranty 2 voids your warranty etc. etc.
jje
Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
EarlZ said:
Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
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I guess, there isn't. But I believe you can set back the counter to zero again using jigs. There are much more knowledgeable people here on this forum regarding this subject, they'll correct me if I'm wrong.
Reset Binary custom rom counter post in dev sections .
basics are use the usb recovery jig to boot and it clears the counter to zero .
jje
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Hi @all...
I never thought rooting the phone (to get the CM9 nightlies) was such a complicated ordeal. I've no clue how much time I spent reading threads and evaluating all the possible ways to root.
I want to avoid increasing the flash counter by all means as I still have one year of warranty left... just to be on the safe side. Unfortunately I already have Android 2.3.6 (kernel 2.6.35.7-...LA4) on the phone, so from what I was able to figure out on my own, this means SuperOneClick or in general zergRushExploit based roots won't work anymore since the leak has been fixed. I could flash an insecure kernel but some people say that in general everything flashed through Odin will increase the flash counter and others say, that flashing an insecure kernel won't do anything to the counter (the whole idea would be kinda pointless if it didn't imho). Also there is the talk of a newer bootloader which will prevent resetting the counter. So much information to digest...
So, I would really like to ask for some friendly help. Is there any way to root the i9100 without increasing the flash counter that will still work with my current firmware and that I can use as a stepping stone to flash the CM9 nightlies? Or some alternative I am not seeing? (except for staying on stock)
Thanks a lot for helping me out in advance...
matthew.
Zergrush 4 (Doomlord) works on KL1 2.3.6 - I'm on it.
No "counter" issues
Also if you do increase your counter there is triangle away app which resets it to 0 without a jig.
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Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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What you can do is:
go to the cm9 user discussion and flash the recommended bootloader
download the clockwork mod recovery from the rom manager website, gapps and latest cm nightly then place it on your external SD card and not the internal
Using stock recovery navigate to the clockwork recovery zip and apply
It will bring up clockwork mod recovery
Do a factory reset...then you can wipe system/data/cache partition from mounts and storage but its optional (I did this because I just wanted a super clean install)
Install the nightly and gapps
you have succesfuly installed CM9
Enjoy
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koolshubh said:
Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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A jig won't work on 2.3.6 onwards..
And just remember triangle away app only works on ics...
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First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@LenAsh: If KL1 is your kernel build version, you are actually on a older kernel. If it is your firmware version, you are newer though (KI4 here). The reason why I am pointing this out is that I have read in both developer threads, that with LA4 kernels and/or Android >= 2.3.6, the exploits used won't work. But again, there were also people reporting otherwise. Could you maybe clearify what exact versions you are on, please?
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
2.3.6 - in my sig
LenAsh said:
2.3.6 - in my sig
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Ok, that I got the first time. But it is just part of the story. Firmware and kernel version would be nice to know. Thanks.
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
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Flashing just the bootloader wont do anything to the bootloader since its the samsung official bootloader... only things such as custom kernels etc (not verified by samsung themselves) will increase the counter
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First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
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Not sure mate... but if you are flashing cm9 why keep the boot loader? ... just flash cm9 and then use triangle away...
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Hello, I hope it's okay to resurrect this for a related question.
I've got my SGSII (I9100) only a couple of days ago, but coming from another android (which is nowadays lowend: I5800) which was always rooted I couldn't stay un-rooted for long. I've rooted using su/busybox injection via temporary CWM, as that obviously doesn't increase flash count (and consequently doesn't cause the yellow triangle).
I'm a bit worried about possibly needing warranty at some point, when the phone is in a state where I can't use it anymore to use "triangle away" (like display hardware issues, whatever) but Samsung can read the flash counter (possibly denying warranty).
So on to my actual question: I tried to find some clear information about what exactly causes the flash counter to increase and/or causes the yellow triangle. There isn't any sticky about it (in any of the sticky thread collections), so could someone clarify that for me?
My phone already shipped with ICS, I would conclude that I already have one of the new bootloaders that can no longer be reset using a jig (unless I flash an old one just for this, obviously).
I've read the only operation that can cause triangcle/counter increase is flashing a kernel (and rom with a kernel) in download mode (Odin) and that Samsungs own (unmodified) kernels are always OK to flash. Correct so far?
Concluding from that, it would mean that any nandroid restore operation would also be safe (for returning to some custom rom after testing/disliking a different one). Just like applying and update.zip (including things like flashing a rom this way). Still correct, I hope?
I really wish there was a sticky explaining this in detail, not just the existence of the counter/triangle and that it's possible to get rid of it, but not how to avoid getting it in the first place.
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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For my case when i needed to flash GB i upgraded the os to ICS and rooted the ICS then i installed odin for mobile and then i flashed the GB again with ODIN from my mobile and i already reset my counters with triangle away in the 1st step try this one it will make u happy lol
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You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
you know i have rooted my phone more times than i can remember, versions of GB, ICS and now i use F1 Nexus ROM and i have always been able to get rid of the yellow triangle and reset the counter without any problems.
it is a jig solution, so i have 1 of those, then i have a an old bootloader file that is called 'oldbootloader' !!! thing is i dont remember where i got it from. anyway, every time after having rooted the phone, i just flash the oldbootloader in Odin PDA box, turn off the phone, plug in the jig and counter is reset, triangle gone. so far it has never failed.
Its very simple, you should have known this......
Flashing a non Samsung kernel / in secure kernel will do that.
Still there are ways you can flash in secure kernel without counter go up, but you have to be rooted and using mobile Odin.
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
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Any custom rom will increase your counter any root like CF root will increase ur counter if you are using a new non stock kernal it will increase the same .. the idea is if you reset the counter one time and then installed mobile odin app on your phone you want have any increase in the counter your whole life and also you will not lose the root and you can flash what ever you want you will not lose the warranty
And they will not able to find out that you one used a custom ROM i already sent my device to the warranty and they mentioned that i'm a noob and am treating the device in a decent way lol
Again ...
If you use your odin while flashing a stock os like xxlph it will increase nothing if you used a stock kernel nothing will happened but if you do so you will lose your root and if you lost your root and u wants to get it back it can increase except if you flashed the root kernel from the device with odin mobile or CWM .. forgot to tell also that if you installed any thing with CWM it will not affect your counter
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Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
Also check my sigi for links
Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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d3l1 said:
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
Hello,
I was wondering, I'm using a custom rom, Hydra-h2o (aokp based), and I have a usb jib. Phone model GT-I9100.
Thinking of testing it out of curiosity and I see that when I insert it, it goes to download mode but it doesn't reset the counter nor does it remove the yellow triangle.
Is that expected? Can it be done? Or whenever I need to reset the counter/triangle I should first go back to a stock rom?
Thanks for your answers
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Probably this is related to old/new bootloader. Go to this thread and scroll down to the section in bold red.
fxrb said:
Probably this is related to old/new bootloader. Go to this thread and scroll down to the section in bold red.
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I'm using hydra-h2o which is an aokp android 4.0.4 custom rom. Below the bold red section I see a bunch of stock roms up to 4.0.3.
Should I just use one of those? Right now my base band reads XXLPX using hydra kernel.
Cheers,
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I'm using hydra-h2o which is an aokp android 4.0.4 custom rom. Below the bold red section I see a bunch of stock roms up to 4.0.3.
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I was just referring to the boot loader issue here.
Should I just use one of those? Right now my base band reads XXLPX using hydra kernel.
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Depends what your goal is: if you want to go back to stock you can use one of those.
If you just want to reset the counter with the JIG the read bold text applies. I normally just flash the old boot loader, then plug the JIG to reset the counter and then reflash the new boot loader.
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I'm using hydra-h2o which is an aokp android 4.0.4 custom rom. Below the bold red section I see a bunch of stock roms up to 4.0.3.
Should I just use one of those? Right now my base band reads XXLPX using hydra kernel.
Cheers,
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He meant the red text referring to the bootloader tarball.
Ok, I think you refer to this:
" All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig.
If you've already flashed a full package from elsewhere or updated using KIES and cannot reset your binary counter using the Jig just flash this package in the PDA or Bootloader section of Odin to replace the bootloaders and then you can reset the counter: Download
Here is the new Gingerbread bootloader tarball if you want to flash it back after resetting your binary counter: Download
Here is the ICS bootloader tarball if you want to flash it back after resetting your binary counter: Download"
I'm supposed to download and flash through Odin (pda section), the first link bootloader. Then use the jig and then flash the bootloader from third link. Correct?
Sorry I make many questions. I'm pretty noobish still about this topics and I rather be sure I understand procedure.
I tried downloading but all links show an 403 server error. xD
Thanks again.
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cool1007 said:
Ok, I think you refer to this:
" All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig.
If you've already flashed a full package from elsewhere or updated using KIES and cannot reset your binary counter using the Jig just flash this package in the PDA or Bootloader section of Odin to replace the bootloaders and then you can reset the counter: Download
Here is the new Gingerbread bootloader tarball if you want to flash it back after resetting your binary counter: Download
Here is the ICS bootloader tarball if you want to flash it back after resetting your binary counter: Download"
I'm supposed to download and flash through Odin (pda section), the first link bootloader. Then use the jig and then flash the bootloader from third link. Correct?
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Yes, correct.
Sorry I make many questions. I'm pretty noobish still about this topics and I rather be sure I understand procedure.
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No problem since flashing the boot loader might be one of the most 'dangerous' things to do.
I tried downloading but all links show an 403 server error. xD
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I'm sorry for that but you will have to search for them in other places then
I'll use the topic to ask if there's any way I could remove the yellow triangle without reseting the flash counter. Thanks in advance!
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I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
yes, you will have to reset the flash counter.
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I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
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With Triangle Away 1.90, you can find it in th CF-Root thread
As Triangle Away needs root (which I currently have - I'm running CheckROM v5), presumably the sequence of things that I need to do is:
1. Run Triangle Away
2. Flash Stock ROM
Is that right?
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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Not via Odin no .
jje
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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lol...I must admit I asked myself that same question....but rest assured, no it won't, after you are done, go to settings/about device/status and at the bottom you should see unmodified
So flashing using Odin doesn't increase the flash counter? So is it only CWM zips that increase it? If so has this changed from the s2 as I'm sure CWM didn't increase flash counter
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odin raises the flash counter with unofficail roms. Only sammy roms dont increase the counter and i think flashing throw cmw doesnt raise the flash counter if it is stock rom. But odin is always recommended
Hello!
I want to unroot my I9300. I have flashed stock 4.1.2 through Odin because i had SN5.
Everything worked fine but when I want to use TriangleAway the count resets back to 0. The problem is when I enter in recovery mode to delete cache etc. . After exiting recovery mode and entering download mode the count is 1 again. What should I do??
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Search would answer this multiple posted question .
Factory reset .
Run TA
Flash stock firmware via Odin ,
Factory reset .
Check rom count and device status are no longer custom .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
Yes, but somebody said that after doing this the phone was constantly crashing.
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rptoma said:
Yes, but somebody said that after doing this the phone was constantly crashing.
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Ask that somebody for advice then .
jje
rptoma ,just do what jegan told you to
If by chance your phone has problems AFTER just download from samfirmware whicerver firmware you want and flash it.
It`s failproof if you folow the tutorial
iirc,the red exclamation mark is related to the custom recovery(CWM) and not rooting itself.you can be rooted while having the stock recovery and not have the counter ticked.you can try flashing a stock sammy recovery then use TA and your binary counter should stay 0 even with the new bootloader.
Note: i havent done this personally in a while since i flashed the old bootloader on the phone so i dont experience it anymore.
Thanks JJEgan for your help. It worked!
not for me sorry
rptoma said:
Thanks JJEgan for your help. It worked!
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Here's my situation, all right?
1- GT-I9300 International model (Portugal);
2- Android 4.1.2
3- I9300XXELLA
I rooted with mskip V7.0 (Thanks!).
Then, since i was getting de RED exclamation mark i ran Triangleaway v 2.75 to see if i could reset the counter (set to 1) and get rid of it.
No success so i did as JJEgan said (Thanks!) but had no success also.
I flashed the stock rom (downloaded via http: -- www .sammobile.com with Odin and aftrer that i flashed the custom recovery with mskip's toolkit.
Still the red mark and counter with 1.
Any help is welcome .......... and it's all right if someone calls me noob (haha).
Cheers
----> Edit:
Solved.
Flashed Vodafone's ROM. Full wipe. Root with chainfire's way (thanks). Triangle away. Done.
Can't tell you how and why but it worked.