Battery drain when powered off? - HTC EVO 3D

Maybe I just haven't found the answer, but has anyone else had the problem with the phone being dead the next day even though it had power when turning it off? I've been getting great battery life but the other night when powering down I had 30-something percent only to not be able to turn it on this morning. I plugged it in via usb to charge for 10 minutes and after turning on it said 31, so it wasn't dead. Same thing happened last time I needed to charge but it happened before using batterminder and the system-battery level showed 1/4 charge left.
Since I'm using batterminder to determine percentage I was wondering if the levels are being misreported. Yesterday I ran the phone dead and batterminder counted all the way down so I don't think its misreporting.
Any ideas?

Holding the power button down long enough? And is fast boot enabled
Bussin Caps n 3D

Yep. Turn off fast boot should fix it. Your phone doesn't turn completely off with that option enabled.
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aimbdd said:
Yep. Turn off fast boot should fix it. Your phone doesn't turn completely off with that option enabled.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
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im sure with the phone off EVEN in fastboot that it cant be using that much battery at all
i mean, its not like the phone is sleeping(where as if you have data sync on it'll still use 3g/wifi to get data at intervals with the screen off)
even if you use fastboot the phone is OFF,as in doing completely nothing
so what exactly is the phone doing while its off to use battery? i assume its like the sleep function on a computer,but even so, it should draw VERY little power

I turned off fastboot to see if anything changes, but with the phone being completely turned off I don't see why the battery would drain. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, I'll report back my results.

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I think my phone might be using batter power even when i turn it off! I dont use my phone much im using a stock rom. Ok ive realized lately that if i dont use my phone for like a day and its off I was at 60% battery power when i turned it off then when i went back the next day to turn it on the power button wouldnt turn it on i had to take the battery out and put it back in then press the power button and it came out with only 10% battery power im wondering in anyone else has had this problem? O and its usually in my backpack.
It probably got turned back on in your backpack
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.
rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
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Doesn't flight mode only turn off the radio? No, just as before the phone remains on, but at best in a low power state such as standby.
We can turn our phones off. If I hold the power button down I then get a window:
"Power will be turned off, and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?"
After powered off, then next time I power it on the phone reboots.
I've got a HTC TyTN (hermes) and i get the same problem: my battery wears off in maximum 3 hours after i fully charge it. all the connections are turned off,except for the phone function. also, while it's charging, no matter if it's charging through the usb or the AC charger, the battery gets very hot. PLEASE can anyone help
(i have the black satin normal rom, with the 1.43.00.00 radio version installed)
axion68 said:
It probably got turned back on in your backpack
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No cause i have it in its case in my back pack and shouldnt it be on then when i take it out?
rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.
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This is a ppc6800 mogul not a 6700 moguls can actually turn off it still does it even if i take the battery out and put it back in.
Sounds like you weakened your battery. Question, do you constantly have your phone plugged into the charger? Same thing happened to me, I used to have my phone plugged in 90% of the day and I noticed that the times that I didn't have it plugged in, the battery life was drastically reduced. Overcharging can weaken a rechargeable battery.
I use to charge it every night then take it off every morning and sometimes since my sis stole my charger id use a motorala on my dad has its output is 5.0v and input is 100-240v is this the right voltage for my mogul?Now i almost never charge it cause its usually off. And im not sure if this has to do anything but my water damage stickers ARE NOT TRIPPED

[Q] Defective phone? Charging problems/random power off

This morning, I woke up to find me 3vo plugged in, but the light was off and I couldn't turn the phone off. My first thought was that it died.....while plugged in over night? So I pulled the battery, put it back in, plugged it in, and the red charging light came on, but only half the brightness it normally is. It also wouldn't turn on and the light turned off after a couple of seconds. I then pulled the battery, waited a minute, put it back in, plugged in, and it seemed to be charging like normal. I turned it on but it took a couple of minutes to boot up, much longer than any normal boot up time.
On a separate occasion, I had 60% battery life one afternoon. I checked my phone 15 minutes later and it said the battery was 5% or less and then shut down a couple of seconds after I turned the screen on.
There was nothing to link these two incidents. I'm trying to figure out if it is a problem with software, hardware, or battery. I can't make the problem happen, so its going to be interesting if I need to take it to a sprint store for a replacement/repair. Thanks for any input or ideas.
Phone is stock, no root.
I know I've had to pull my battery for unknown reasons to start it. The only time I ever so the led at half brightness is when the phone is booting without quickboot (battery pull clears memory for a quickboot). It's like putting your computer in sleep mode, your computer sends fast startup information to volatile memory (ram), so it boots off fast RAM instead of slow hard drives.
As for your 60 to 5 in 2.5 (seconds). I'd try wiping your battery stats in recovery. Make sure you have a FULL charge, wipe battery stats, fully drain the battery, the fully charge. Your battery meter should be accurate afterwards...
If this helps, please hit the thanks button...
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Wife's phone had same problem.. took it to Sprint.. they did a radio reset and full hard reset and it fixed it.... So far.
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HTC EVO 3D Concerns

I just revieced my evo 3d, also i want to know:
Is the Battery charging to 100% normal for long time?
and is the FOTA 1.13 worth getting
leo72793 said:
I just revieced my evo 3d, also i want to know:
Is the Battery charging to 100% normal for long time?
and is the FOTA 1.13 worth getting
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i think mine charges the battery up to 99% but to be honest, i haven't focused attention on the exact percentage.
I did the OTA to 1.13 and it patches quite a few things. i don't think you *have* to update and i haven't noticed much difference before and after. the only official update information i quickly saw was from searching google was this: http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo3d-sprint/downloads/ . They describe the update as : This update fixes issue of calendar entries in certain formats force closing during edits . Looking at the update .zip file, I pulled it from the cache before loading it, it touches a lot of files. Perhaps somebody has more details on the OTA ...
I remember back when I first got my EVO3D on launch day it to for dreaming ever to fully charge.
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Most of the time, mine seems to cap out at 99%. It did that the first couple of nights I had it (where it spent the whole night on the charger), as well as when I've plugged it in at work. Today I saw 100% for the first time.
Doesn't worry me.
Does the same for me. If I in plug it, then plug it back in and wait about 20 min it finally gets to 100 percent. Pretty strange I'd say. I'm on silverneedle and viper-rom btw.
Well, at 3 am floridian time, my evo decided to turn off, and never turn on again. left batt out, charge for 24 hours, even tried to get to bootloader, i get nothing
leo72793 said:
Well, at 3 am floridian time, my evo decided to turn off, and never turn on again. left batt out, charge for 24 hours, even tried to get to bootloader, i get nothing
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wow, this is definitely different scenario than your OP.
when you press power on the phone, there is absolutely no response? LED doesn't flash at all, screen wont turn on? you've tried the vol down + pwr and vol up + pwr?
the only easy solution i can think of is a bad battery. and by easy, i mean you could get a new battery and see if the phone turns on and that would be a cheaper easy fix. otherwise, i'd probably take it back to where you bought it and/or sprint as it definitely sounds like a hardware issue.
if you aren't able to turn it on, they shouldn't be able to either. as long as your water/wet stickers show the phone hasn't been wet, they should be able to replace it.
good luck! let us know how it turns out!
joeykrim said:
wow, this is definitely different scenario than your OP.
when you press power on the phone, there is absolutely no response? LED doesn't flash at all, screen wont turn on? you've tried the vol down + pwr and vol up + pwr?
the only easy solution i can think of is a bad battery. and by easy, i mean you could get a new battery and see if the phone turns on and that would be a cheaper easy fix. otherwise, i'd probably take it back to where you bought it and/or sprint as it definitely sounds like a hardware issue.
if you aren't able to turn it on, they shouldn't be able to either. as long as your water/wet stickers show the phone hasn't been wet, they should be able to replace it.
good luck! let us know how it turns out!
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Well, the stickers are normal, concidering i just bought it yesterday and i looked
and well, i charged it fully, 100% and made a ~2 hour phone call and got to 68%. then it sat for an hour while on psn call of duty, then i went to reboot for thr OTA, and it just went BLEH. NO leds, no screen, no nada.
Just a half lit charging led wven though NO charger connected.
EDIT
Went to best buy and the guy examined the phone like a car. and was completely astounded that it wont turn on. tried 3 chargers and a new battery and ended up replacing it xD

[Q] Bricked my Evo 3d. Need Help

So I rooted my EVO 3D using the HTC method. Then I installed CWR and SU. Installed Titanium backup and took a couple of backups. Everything was fine. Then I had this bright idea of installing ROM Manager. I run ROM Manager and I see this option for backing up existing ROM. I click on it and it asks me to install a boot loader or something. I install it. Then click backup again. BAM ! Phone reboots and goes blank. Now the red LED is consistently blinking every short while and the phone wont start.
Tried removing the battery and holding power to drain the cap. Then tried holding power. No dice. Tried holding power + Volume - no dice. The phone simply wont boot.
How do I fix it ? Is it bricked for good ? Anyone else have this problem ?
Try unplugging and then turning it on. Shouldn't be bricked either way. Hope this helps.
Try running the HTC method again
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If the suggestions already given do not work try hooking it up to your
PC and seeing if adb works? Them try to boot into fastboot, then fastboot recovery.
If not, try hooking into sync and seeing if you can initiate an Ruu. The Ruu will more than likely not be successful because you are unlocked and would need to lock first, but some communication between your phone and pc is a great sign.
also there is a thread here (I think sticky) that says "think you broke your phone, look here". Check that thread out to see if any suggestions.
Edit: added link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281729
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To try all of that it needs to power on and the screen needs to show something. It simplywont power on. Red led keeps blinking. Tried charging it, connecting it to my Mac. A DB reboot. A DB reboot recovery. Says device not cnected.
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To try all of that it needs to power on and the screen needs to show something. It simplywont power on. Red led keeps blinking. Tried charging it, connecting it to my Mac. A DB reboot. A DB reboot recovery. Says device not cnected.
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Well if the red light is blinking I highly doubt it is bricked.
If Adb doesn't work, try running an Ruu through sync. Even if it says there is no device connected to sync, run the Ruu anyhow. I can tell you that I had an issue Once where I hooked it up to sync and it said there was no device connected. I tried to run Ruu anyhow and it initiated. It didn't complete because I was still locked, but at least it was a sign of life. And after it did it's partial run, I was able to but back into hboot.
Try it. You've got nothing to lose. Me though....I'm losing sleep and have to get up early tomorrow so I'm going to bed. I'll subscribe to this thread to try to keep up with it in the morning to see where you are at. Good luck.
oh. And sleep on it too if you find yourself getting frustrated. Sometimes I find that a night to sleep on it really clears my head to and let's me look at it with a fresh perspective the next morning.
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All suggested up is what I'd recommend. I wish you best of luck.
remove power from the thing for 10 minutes - this means take the battery out, do not have it plugged in... then try again... sometimes they freak the f out over nothing...
Wife's stock EVO has done that when an app tried to reboot the thing.
Try typing fastboot oem boot in terminal with your phone connected obvs
Sounds like a dead battery. Try leaving it plugged in overnight or switch out the battery with a good one.
wrong section btw
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thanx all for your responses. I appreciate them all. The only thing I haven't tried from suggestions above is keeping the battery out for extended period of time. Trying that now. Also since I am a complete noob what is ruu and is I avaliabe or Mac.
I had this issue with the 1.0.x versions on twrp
charge the battery externally if you can. then put it back in and try to turn it back on
do you have insurance? if nothing works take it to sprint service and act all dumb
mildlydisturbed said:
remove power from the thing for 10 minutes - this means take the battery out, do not have it plugged in... then try again... sometimes they freak the f out over nothing...
Wife's stock EVO has done that when an app tried to reboot the thing.
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This was the fix that worked. Removed the battery for 2 hrs. Phone was fine after that. Posting from phone !
I had a the exact same thing happend to mine.
Repeated battery pulls did not help and it would just blink.
Took it to a sprint keosk at a mall and they just pulled the batter and replaced it with another battery and it booted fine, and then they put my battery back in and it was fine after that, although the battery needed to be charged.
Yeah that happened to my og evo I was all flippin out over a dead battery hahaha
Yep, dead battery. Freaked me out the first time this happened also.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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This is not a dead battery issue but more accurately a "You phone thinks the battery is dead when its actually not" issue. I charged the battery for a long time using usb cable and my Mac and then using the stock charger and even that did not help. Repeated battery pulls also did not help. Only when the battery was taken out and left for a extended period was it fixed.
Here is my theory. All EVOs have a powerful capacitor inside them somewhere where they store the "Battery is almost dead" info and this capacitor takes some time to discharge. Every time you pull the battery and put it back in again the capacitor is not fully discharged and retains the "battery is almost dead" flag and never updates it even after repeated charging. The only solution is to pull the battery and leave it out for some time ( I left it out for 2 hours, someone here suggested 15+ minutes is good enough) and let the capacitor fully discharge at which point it will loose its "Battery is almost dead" flag. Then plug in the battery and everything is fine.
This explanation is a complete assumption but it is based on my observations and expriments. I have seen a lot of people post the same problem however no clear solution and tried solution as the one above so I hope this post helps others like me.
nimkar said:
This is not a dead battery issue but more accurately a "You phone thinks the battery is dead when its actually not" issue. I charged the battery for a long time using usb cable and my Mac and then using the stock charger and even that did not help. Repeated battery pulls also did not help. Only when the battery was taken out and left for a extended period was it fixed.
Here is my theory. All EVOs have a powerful capacitor inside them somewhere where they store the "Battery is almost dead" info and this capacitor takes some time to discharge. Every time you pull the battery and put it back in again the capacitor is not fully discharged and retains the "battery is almost dead" flag and never updates it even after repeated charging. The only solution is to pull the battery and leave it out for some time ( I left it out for 2 hours, someone here suggested 15+ minutes is good enough) and let the capacitor fully discharge at which point it will loose its "Battery is almost dead" flag. Then plug in the battery and everything is fine.
This explanation is a complete assumption but it is based on my observations and expriments. I have seen a lot of people post the same problem however no clear solution and tried solution as the one above so I hope this post helps others like me.
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Glad you got it working.
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[q] htc amaze bricked?

was running quicksense from about january dont know exactly which version.
phone completely died on me,
connected it to the charger and it turned on to the green "htc" logo,
but then it turns off..
so i tried booting to recover; holding volume down + power, with no luck.
tried it via connected to computer, no luck.
with & without batter still nothing..
weird thing is, SOMETIMES the charging light will keep blinking.
also SOMETIMES, the screen stays off, and the vibration feedback when pressing the home, menu, back, and search keys, virbates..
do i have the first bricked amaze or what?
--the search key "restarts the phone"
i can tell because the keys no longer make the phone vibrate when pressed after pressing the search key.
I'm betting my money on you having a earlier recovery installed that doesn't allow proper boot if the battery is dead... crappy part about that? it doesn't let the battery charge either... Find someone with an Amaze, or Sensation, charge your battery in their phone for 30 minutes, then try your phone again. Also, after your phone is charged, you probably want to reflash your recovery to a new one that doesn't exhibit this problem.
*just a wild guess, but it makes sense, it's happened to me*
*note, you could just have unrelated catastrophic hardware failure, lol*
As long as you have s - off you can't brick it.
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As long as you DON'T have s - off you can't brick it.
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S-Off isn't possible right now, S-On-Unlocked is safe. although having the recovery that doesn't support charging is like a temp-brick. You just need to charge your battery in another phone.
Or splice the battery directly to the wires for half an hour. That's how I charged when my charging port was the broked
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Can you at least get into adb? You could try accessing it and then using adb to reboot into bootloader/recovery via "abd reboot recovery" or "adb reboot bootloader"
Did this get resolved? Just wanted to know if my hunch was right.
It sounds like a dead battery. The blinking light means (from my experience) that its charging but not enough juice to use yet. Once my phone died and it blinked for a couple of minutes. I tried turning on, but battery wasn't juiced enough. After a few minutes, the light turned solid and was charging and had enough power to turn on.
I would try a new battery. Good news is you're not bricked, and most likely, not even soft bricked
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What version of CWM are you using?
thank you guys for all your replies,
i let it charge for about 30 minutes and then it finally turned on
tombeach22 said:
Or splice the battery directly to the wires for half an hour. That's how I charged when my charging port was the broked
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How exactly did you do this lol?
glacierguy said:
It sounds like a dead battery. The blinking light means (from my experience) that its charging but not enough juice to use yet. Once my phone died and it blinked for a couple of minutes. I tried turning on, but battery wasn't juiced enough. After a few minutes, the light turned solid and was charging and had enough power to turn on.
I would try a new battery. Good news is you're not bricked, and most likely, not even soft bricked
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thank you guys for all your replies,
i let it charge for about 30 minutes and then it finally turned on
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Thought that was the issue. Splice the battery or flash a new recovery? Lol let's cut off his hand to cure the mosquito bite lol
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i have the same issue i could get into hboot and recovery but i cant get passed bootload and i charge it for like an hour but it wont stop flashing what can i do is it the battery?
Amazing Brick
I've had a very similar issue to those mentioned here. I have the latest cwm recovery installed (five point something). After wiping battery stats my amaze went into a cycle of booting up normally then automatically restarting after about 30 seconds. Now it shows the amber light while charging, but will not boot at all, not even into recovery. adb says device not recognized, and the amber light flashes periodically and shuts off if i press the power button... should I trash this phone and get a galaxy s II ?
Throatchopper said:
I've had a very similar issue to those mentioned here. I have the latest cwm recovery installed (five point something). After wiping battery stats my amaze went into a cycle of booting up normally then automatically restarting after about 30 seconds. Now it shows the amber light while charging, but will not boot at all, not even into recovery. adb says device not recognized, and the amber light flashes periodically and shuts off if i press the power button... should I trash this phone and get a galaxy s II ?
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Yes, trash the phone. Ill give u my address and u can send me th trash, ill even gove u $10 for it
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Throatchopper said:
I've had a very similar issue to those mentioned here. I have the latest cwm recovery installed (five point something). After wiping battery stats my amaze went into a cycle of booting up normally then automatically restarting after about 30 seconds. Now it shows the amber light while charging, but will not boot at all, not even into recovery. adb says device not recognized, and the amber light flashes periodically and shuts off if i press the power button... should I trash this phone and get a galaxy s II ?
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Charge it for 30-60 minutes. Unplug it and do a battery pull. Put battery back on and reboot your phone
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superrskillz said:
was running quicksense from about january dont know exactly which version.
phone completely died on me,
connected it to the charger and it turned on to the green "htc" logo,
but then it turns off..
so i tried booting to recover; holding volume down + power, with no luck.
tried it via connected to computer, no luck.
with & without batter still nothing..
weird thing is, SOMETIMES the charging light will keep blinking.
also SOMETIMES, the screen stays off, and the vibration feedback when pressing the home, menu, back, and search keys, virbates..
do i have the first bricked amaze or what?
--the search key "restarts the phone"
i can tell because the keys no longer make the phone vibrate when pressed after pressing the search key.
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Did you resolve your issue?
It was a hardware issue so I Just did a warranty replacement on the defective phone. I now have the galaxy s2 and the wife uses the replaced amaze thanks all
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HTC Amaze won't turn on
Hi guys.
I'm having problem with my HTC won't turn on at all. I tried swapping out the battery with the new one but still won't work. And of course I can't get into adb to do reboot thru that so now i'm stuck. I'm running out of option and trying to turn on the phone. Please help if you can
thanks
darknight26 said:
Hi guys.
I'm having problem with my HTC won't turn on at all. I tried swapping out the battery with the new one but still won't work. And of course I can't get into adb to do reboot thru that so now i'm stuck. I'm running out of option and trying to turn on the phone. Please help if you can
thanks
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Does the phone charge when you plug it in?

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