it looks like "maxrfon" found wonderful bug in qualcomm mcu bootrom RSA signature verification.
he did not want to share it here, but he shared it for x$$$$, where x not in [0..4] ( will be stupid to do otherwise )
finally bug is published.
what is for ppl here?
that means , yes-yes - total control over secmboot.
REAL "bootloader hack"
of course, exploit, which rewriting semc boot encrypted with some tricks.
but once it runs, it can be defeated, eh ?
so, what i all about.
looks like real deal custom roms will be available for x10.
and.. perhaps, just perhaps... bug is generic for qualcomm MCUs....
Is this SPAM?? -.-
well maybe for you.
for other developers it is signal.
or you really think that security hole can lasts "protected" more that week after solution, which based on it published ?
you devs are GODZ, semc will not be happy i hope it works also on small xperias
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well maybe for you.
for other developers it is signal.
or you really think that security hole can lasts "protected" more that week after solution, which based on it published ?
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^^ He probably doesn't know you
This is great news. Just thinking about the possibilities makes me shiver! Looking forward to hearing more, hopefully this will prevail.
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well maybe for you.
for other developers it is signal.
or you really think that security hole can lasts "protected" more that week after solution, which based on it published ?
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It could last
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gregbradley said:
Hopefully this is not the return of......
J.Anderson
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Its the_laser man....not j.anderson. for those who dont know the_laser....he is 110% legit.
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Very very interesting news!
Where was it published and how soon can we expect to see it being applied in our X10s?
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Laser can we get a link to to the "qualcomm mcu bootrom RSA signature verification" report?
seems theres a 'little' more info over at the_lasers home place
http://support.setool.net/showthread.php?27889-x10i
congrats bud looking forward to see what happens in the near future
Heck yeah lol.
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Dayum, awesome news!
If it's real, keep it low profile bro.
You'll never know if SE is lurking around..
I hope this is true... we could see the devs true potential if the bootloader is hacked! Not to mention it would be alot easier for them
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IS it possible to install other OS if we have unlocked bootloader?
like wm7...??
If anyone could tell me if we have unlocked bootloader what things are possible?
abrarabbu said:
IS it possible to install other OS if we have unlocked bootloader?
like wm7...??
If anyone could tell me if we have unlocked bootloader what things are possible?
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Yes, you can. Install what ever the heck you like on your phone once it's unlocked is possible.
@the_laser : This is a very good news, but darn, it'll void the warranty of our phone if you get the bootloader unlocked -- I consider this as the last resort. Hopefully SE will unlock X10's bootloader in the next update.
This is awesome though I don't really understand anything LOL
clixt said:
Dayum, awesome news!
If it's real, keep it low profile bro.
You'll never know if SE is lurking around..
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Yerh. I second that.
OT: Maybe release it after SE releases GB, so they won't patch it in the upcoming update etc. etc. Just saying.
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It could last
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i would disagree, securtity holes could not last long.
that security hole, in particular.
Great news!
Here you wrote about 1-2 days until it is available. Are you serious about that? Are we that close?
I guess we should wait with any official update then, right? Although the chances are not that big that this security hole will be fixed since you didn't release anything by now, I still think even the GB-update isn't worth the risk of not getting an unlocked/hacked bootloader.
Related
Cracked bootloader:
How far did you get?
Who are working on it?
When will the cracked bootloader be aviable for us?
Custom firmware:
Is it able to get 2.2 on x10?
Who is working on a cfw?
On wich FW are you working?
When will it be aviable for us?
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Search FFS.
Just sit and wait until the bootloader is cracked or they find a way around it. Nobody knows how far they are.
[Delete plz]
THEY know how far they are, and i asked THEM...
Not everybody
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PoTi_96 said:
THEY know how far they are, and i asked THEM...
Not everybody
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Didn't want to have a go at you but since I've seen people get slaughtered on these forums when they don't really deserve it I think its only fair.
This thread deserves slaughtering! "They" do know how far they are, but so do I - I know they still haven't cracked it.
So how can they give you a timeline? If they could then they would have cracked it. They aren't waiting for a progress bar to reach 100%, they are actually trying to hack into it. I don't even now anything about android development but I'm intelligent enough to realise it takes work, especially when its not paid for. Let them get on with it and don't pressure them with stupid questions making them look incompetent.
Please close this thread! It's a useless topic
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*worthless*
Your reply is like nonesene...
I wanna know how far they are away...
Just wanna know if they are faaaaar away or just far away or got it nearly
Sry but i'm not really good in english :x
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PoTi_96 said:
....
*worthless*
Your reply is like nonesene...
I wanna know how far they are away...
Just wanna know if they are faaaaar away or just far away or got it nearly
Sry but i'm not really good in english :x
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Buddy your post is worthless they dont know the poster above u explained it to you.. they might think their close but they can also run into a problem that would get them stuck for a long time.. so noone knows wait and see like the rest of us.. thats why there is a thread like custom rom dev and excelent progress on cyanogen so you can read whats going on and what the progress is. Read the forum.
And i also think the mods should close this thread as it is a joke.
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For you to understand.. Lets say they are @ 99,99%, 1 small tiny thing can enormously slow down the proses or even make it (almost) impossible. No realistic person can put a timeline on these jobs.
A smart dev will never say it almost done before its really done.
Devtone said:
A smart dev will never say it almost done before its really done.
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And since they are all smart we don't know any timelines and they are working hard to ease our experience with this phone. Chill and wait till they inform you about the process.
Regards,
Please close this thread.
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PoTi_96 said:
Cracked bootloader:
How far did you get?
Who are working on it?
When will the cracked bootloader be aviable for us?
Custom firmware:
Is it able to get 2.2 on x10?
Who is working on a cfw?
On wich FW are you working?
When will it be aviable for us?
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this phone does not buy by the advanced people and developers are concerned.it was my first android now I have a Samsung w)
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good on you troll... we don't care!
The X10 community has some very talented developers working on the hack. I have no doubt 2.2 will be successfuly ported to our phone eventually.
Trolls must die... All.
Principally samsung-ay boys.
Asking how far they are is like asking how long is a piece of string.
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Q how long is a piece of string
A twice the distance from the middle to the end
I just wonder why people dance into the x10 forums to post when they dont even have a x10. Gtfo and let us make our threads, we can troll eachother TYVM
Obviously some regular users on this forum don't get it. For a newbie, these forums are very, very difficult to extract exact information from.
There are so many different threads to look at.
Then once you find the thread, sometimes you still can't get an answer because the language spoken, is very much developer only.
A simple, no, they haven't cracked it yet, but they are still working very hard, would have been an easy, quick answer for all who was looking.
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Obviously some regular users on this forum don't get it. For a newbie, these forums are very, very difficult to extract exact information from.
There are so many different threads to look at.
Then once you find the thread, sometimes you still can't get an answer because the language spoken, is very much developer only.
A simple, no, they haven't cracked it yet, but they are still working very hard, would have been an easy, quick answer for all who was looking.
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Thanks! That was what i'm looking for =D
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Why don't you guys just look at the developers thread and see how far away they are? You make your own assumptions but at least you will know what they are working on at the moment. Like last I checked was working on ram disks. But please no posts. Just look if your curious.
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Right now, imho no one works on cracking the bootloader, but the managed to boot from a custom ramdisk, however its still far from a full working image (right now its more a proof of concept) usable for simple users.
That is my impression as well after reading the dev thread.
It seems they "gave up" on the bootloader, or are focusing on booting the stock kernel, and after that instead of running the stock init scripts and OS to load another OS. (but the kernel is the same)
please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm in no hurry to get a custom OS, but i'd still appreciate if the guys who are working on it could let us know, what exactly they're doing (no timelines of course)
Hello guys, i was wondering where is TRIP now, ever since he release the Dump Arc version, he never showed up.... not only TRIP as well as Z.... do you think X10 well be abandon?
Well it is kind of old by now...
esatoRavager said:
Well it is kind of old by now...
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That’s kind of irrelevant because I also have a HTC Magic and the dev's are still developing for that device even though it’s older then the x10. So it’s not really if the device is old it’s if the devs have time or if they even want to develop for the community. And to be honest a majority of our x10 community makes it an undesirable one to develop for :/
So we either need to wait and let them do their thing, or learn how to develop ourselves so we don’t always have to rely on the same 3~5 people.
Also without an open bootloader it makes it harder on the devs D:
There probably a little frustrated now. I mean its not easy doing what they wanna do with a locked bootloader. Maybe they need some time to themselves to clear there heads and start fresh.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Maybe they need some time to themselves to clear there heads and start fresh.
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Agreed ;-)
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
There probably a little frustrated now. I mean its not easy doing what they wanna do with a locked bootloader. Maybe they need some time to themselves to clear there heads and start fresh.
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I hope that they dont abandon us, or not sure perhaps SE hired them, not sure but i got those feelings.... the only dev that we have left is J... and i hope J will not give up on us... Im afraid to that.. Please J dont give up on us, your our only hope to make our beloved X10 shine to the fullest.....
trips moving into new house this month i belive it was on radio post
true, true
mrloltime said:
trips moving into new house this month i belive it was on radio post
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Z's last post was in the Dev thread, so maybe he's working on kexec with the_laser and Bin4ry
What's the status
Bootloader is unlocked since day one like the atrix
Atrix almost has a stable version
Any news or rumors! Thanks
SS2006 said:
What's the status
Bootloader is unlocked since day one like the atrix
Atrix almost has a stable version
Any news or rumors! Thanks
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¿Qué? el hombre debe ser feliz con lo que tenemos ahora.
we are waiting on you to make it, didnt ya hear?
SS2006 said:
What's the status
Bootloader is unlocked since day one like the atrix
Atrix almost has a stable version
Any news or rumors! Thanks
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Give it some time. Atrix has been out for like a year already.
shabbypenguin said:
we are waiting on you to make it, didnt ya hear?
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this is general forum smartass, not dev
CCallahan said:
Give it some time. Atrix has been out for like a year already.
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thats true but it was useless cause of the bootloader
its bootloader was only unlocked 1-2 months ago
SS2006 said:
What's the status
Bootloader is unlocked since day one like the atrix
Atrix almost has a stable version
Any news or rumors! Thanks
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Our devs worked very hard to unlock our bootloader so I don't believe you are giving them enough credit when you say its been unlocked since day one. You acknowledge that the Atrix version is not stable. Well that is kind of a problem for us because the Atrix team will most likely be the ones who will port it over for us. There was a thread started about it on the cyanogenmod forums about two weeks ago so you might want to keep that thread alive. A lot of people aren't willing to sacrifice their 4g access for custom ROMs just yet but once the 4g issue is fixed then I think you will see a lot more. You might want to communicate with the Atrix team and show them your support and offer your device for testing if you wish to speed things up. Just make sure you have a nandroid backup.
First rule of Cyanogenmod is don't ask for an eta.
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Not being a Dev (yet. I am eager to learn) my layman's/noob's suggestion would be for the Photon Dev's and the Atrix Dev's to combine forces to create CM7 for both phones. If I am not mistaken, and please correct me if I am wrong so I can learn, the Photon & Atrix are very similar and with the exception of the RIL and a few other minor differences the CyanogenMOD ROM for both phones would be practically identical. Sometimes too many cooks spoil the soup but most of the time the more great minds the better.
I understand that both the Photon & Atrix Dev's put in a ton of work to root & unlock the bootloaders. They did this out of a love for what they do and asked for nothing in return, they should be thanked and praised for their efforts and contributions to the community.
Everything said on xda these days is somehow perceived as non appreciation..
Thanks for the info tho.
Peace
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SS2006 said:
Everything said on xda these days is somehow perceived as non appreciation..
Thanks for the info tho.
Peace
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Sometimes it's all about how you choose to word your statements
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SS2006 said:
Everything said on xda these days is somehow perceived as non appreciation..
Thanks for the info tho.
Peace
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The problem is that most people here on XDA nowadays just want to get their flame on instead of just just answering a simple question.
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smoothone said:
The problem is that most people here on XDA nowadays just want to get their flame on instead of just just answering a simple question.
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I think it has more to do with people getting annoyed with noob and uniformed questions. Since when did a a different phone with an unstable version and a bootloader that will break 4G become a prerequisite for the Photon getting CM7?
HYDE1000 said:
I think it has more to do with people getting annoyed with noob and uniformed questions. Since when did a a different phone with an unstable version and a bootloader that will break 4G become a prerequisite for the Photon getting CM7?
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I think the reason its thought of like that is because the phones are very similar as is the motorola bionic. I'm sure that might be a big part
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i fail to see how my comment wasnt constructive. ill be honest ive been around sprint android for a good min.. sure there are some names i recognize but i havent seen them put out roms yet (mikeyind and ptfmedic im looking at you two )
if you want something bad enough why not jump in and help rather then ask for it? my comment about we are waiting on you to make it still stands. its not going to happen without people stepping forward. with the epic touch coming out soon, face teh facts people this is the highest amount of development/users this phone will have. great phone, just overshadowed by two other phones at launch. once the et4g comes out a lot of people will leave here claiming development is too slow etc etc. what im getting at with all this is if we want this phone to succeed, we as a collective need to make it happen, no on eis gunna come in and start making everything awesome.
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i fail to see how my comment wasnt constructive. ill be honest ive been around sprint android for a good min.. sure there are some names i recognize but i havent seen them put out roms yet (mikeyind and ptfmedic im looking at you two )
if you want something bad enough why not jump in and help rather then ask for it? my comment about we are waiting on you to make it still stands. its not going to happen without people stepping forward. with the epic touch coming out soon, face teh facts people this is the highest amount of development/users this phone will have. great phone, just overshadowed by two other phones at launch. once the et4g comes out a lot of people will leave here claiming development is too slow etc etc. what im getting at with all this is if we want this phone to succeed, we as a collective need to make it happen, no on eis gunna come in and start making everything awesome.
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I've got a machine that can handle development (i7 6gb of ram and a ssd ). I am going to join the irc more. I am getting my feet wet with theming. The atrix forum has a ton of great tutorials which I plan on reading. Did you ever get a photon shabby?
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I've got a machine that can handle development (i7 6gb of ram and a ssd ). I am going to join the irc more. I am getting my feet wet with theming. The atrix forum has a ton of great tutorials which I plan on reading. Did you ever get a photon shabby?
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it left the sellers house this morning im expecting tues/wed delivery due to the holiday
edit: wtf xda, i didnt quote those posts
shabbypenguin said:
it left the sellers house this morning im expecting tues/wed delivery due to the holiday
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this is awesome news!
its good and all the AiO tool, wich works like a charm, but i ( and not only me ) wants a unlocked bootloader so we can flash other roms, better roms faster and more stable, Anyone trying?
I think Condi is working on this, It would be really nice to see CWM on this
Yes indeed,
and here i was assuming this was already done since i've never come to this section before.....was almost tempted to trade my touchpad for the tablet S...keep going devs....you might just manage to tempt me
it's locked..
on sony's official site, there is a list shows devices that can unlock the bootloader, but tablet s is not on that list..
my 4.0.3 tablet s, can't be rooted, it's annoying!!
Join the discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490774
We could do with ur help!
Why don't all Android manufactures unlock the bootloaders? That way devs can take the load off Sony software devs and cook up great roms to keep the plebs happy .
Its a win win situation.
Warren_Orange said:
Why don't all Android manufactures unlock the bootloaders? That way devs can take the load off Sony software devs and cook up great roms to keep the plebs happy .
Its a win win situation.
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Petition time
Warren_Orange said:
Why don't all Android manufactures unlock the bootloaders? That way devs can take the load off Sony software devs and cook up great roms to keep the plebs happy .
Its a win win situation.
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Because for all kinds of warranty and legal issues, someone like Sony would prefer to have a far greater control over what software their hardware is running and a locked bootloader is the first step to that.
Warren_Orange said:
Why don't all Android manufactures unlock the bootloaders? That way devs can take the load off Sony software devs and cook up great roms to keep the plebs happy .
Its a win win situation.
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Motorola are doing this, they sell "developer" devices, with the bootloader unlocked before you get the phone!
---------- Post added at 04:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:01 PM ----------
Look at this
Sony do it too.. All of the xperia range (unbranded) can be unlocked with a simple tool provided by Sony.
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I am also in support of starting a petition. What bad can it do? Sony has unlocked bootloaders for a lot of their recent smartphones. If a petition is signed by enough people, they will reconsider and allow Tablet S/P to be unlocked too!
I'm all for trying, but just warning people not to get their hopes up for the petition working. The Tablet S just hasn't sold that[/I] well, and the subset of Tablet S owners on XDA is even smaller. Still worth a shot, I guess.
I will write up a text, you guys will verify it and we will begin a petition. Absolutely nothing to lose. We can also send it around to various android sites to gain some publicity...
Break it! Crack it! Unlease the beast inside!!...
O my god it would be so nice to flash a other rom..
Something like a rom with Touchwiz UI like my Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 ,
That would be great
Who wants the source code and the kernel source code?
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andyabc said:
Who wants the source code and the kernel source code?
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The link for the source code has already been posted several times over the last nine months. But hey, thanks anyway.
Cat McGowan said:
The link for the source code has already been posted several times over the last nine months. But hey, thanks anyway.
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Oh, ok.
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Count me in on the sign up for the petition.
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Count me too.
It's time to unlock this tab as PS3.
I have unrooted 4.0.3
I want to sell this thing and buy preowned rooted tab....
Is the only thing that is stopping development the locked bootloader?
cslingerland said:
Is the only thing that is stopping development the locked bootloader?
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I think so... But I would not say it is the "only" thing, I would say it is THE THING
Thank you! It's about time I got an answer from someone... Looks like I got a piece of hardware with a near dead community
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cslingerland said:
Thank you! It's about time I got an answer from someone... Looks like I got a piece of hardware with a near dead community
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Yeah, Sony is to blame for this... Very bad product policy... If someone wants to root its tablet, the should let him do so... Dont' wanna say they should support rooting the tablet, but other way round they should not prevent it... They just shoud be neutral and so many more people would buy the tablet
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Yeah, Sony is to blame for this... Very bad product policy... If someone wants to root its tablet, the should let him do so... Dont' wanna say they should support rooting the tablet, but other way round they should not prevent it... They just shoud be neutral and so many more people would buy the tablet
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I agree. That's not smart on their part. Do you know of anyone working on unlocking it?
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mikajo said:
I think so... But I would not say it is the "only" thing, I would say it is THE THING
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I disagree with "is The Thing" because I have an xperia S with unlocked bootloader and there are roms, and some ways for flashing through CMW, I think that the problem is that there are no developers for our tablet. (ok, just few developers like Condi)
rfreeman said:
I disagree with "is The Thing" because I have an xperia S with unlocked bootloader and there are roms, and some ways for flashing through CMW, I think that the problem is that there are no developers for our tablet. (ok, just few developers like Condi)
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Hopefully a few developers jump on the Woot.com deal today and pick up one , cheap. Also, that sale and the announced replacement may make for future opportunities to pick it up cheaply and make it a better value.
Only takes a couple of devs to make a big difference when you only have a one or a few carrying the most of the development load.
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Hopefully a few developers jump on the Woot.com deal today and pick up one , cheap. Also, that sale and the announced replacement may make for future opportunities to pick it up cheaply and make it a better value.
Only takes a couple of devs to make a big difference when you only have a one or a few carrying the most of the development load.
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Woot sold out... so your wish may come true.
Anyone know if the woot deal shipps fully updated or there is a chance to get in on the goods pre #10.
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