[Q] roms - Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i just recently rooted my droid eris, i've had it for about a year and had the latest ota update. I did the one click root and now i'm currently running the vanilla tazz rom. I noticed there is a new gingerbread cynogenmod, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944430 and i'd like to to run that rom, is there anything i should know from switching from one rom to another? Or any other advice anyone might have would be useful as well. Thanks

1. I would download Titanium backup from the market. Instructions for its use can be found on its official page. Backup your apps but not your settings using Titanium Backup.
2. In the link I'm about to give you insert this step after step 4:
(step 4.5) On the recovery screen use the volume down button to select "make nandroid backup option". Make nandroid backup by depressing trackball.
3. Here is the link with info on copying ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_copy_a_ROM_to_your_Eris
4. If you experience serious problems with your new configuration, you can always reboot to recovery and use the nandroid restore option to revert back to your previous ROM.
5. You can use Titanium Backup to restore your apps to the new ROM.
Best of luck to you.

I'm sure you have read this and done it having a new ROM ànd all but after completion of your NAND backup it can't be said enough to do your wipes prior to flashing. Follow directions in the thread for the custom ROM but just to be safe I always wipe data and dalvik unless instructed specifically not to do so. Also, depending on your SD storage capacity I always keep extra copies of the ROM I have and the one I'm flashing but you definitely not necessary esp with a nandroid backup. I'm just always flashing and it can't hurt.
Also you may need to enable USB toggle in recovery and delete 'android secure' folder. I guess my best advice anyone can give is follow the directions in the ROMs thread I didn't look to see which it was. If you are unclear on anything before flash wait until you are sure. Hope we helped. I'm still learning every day.
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[Q] New to Rooting - Trying to Get Froyo

Hello everyone,
I'm new to the Eris. I've had it for a few months, but this is the first "in-depth" thing I've done with it.
I've decided to take the plunge and root the phone. I'm going to use the on-screen method.
My question is this: What do I need to do to prepare? I've got all my apps backed up to the SD card, and the phone is charging right now.
Any suggestions as to what ROM to use? Or what I need to get the Froyo update, etc?
I'm new, so I'm browsing and learning, but any information you guys have would be great. Thanks in advance.
If you want a Froyo rom, that is what you'll need to download. There are about a half dozen in the development section and all mention "Froyo" in the title. Read the entire thread and it's not a bad idea to read some comments. If the developer says you need the google apps aka gapps zip, get it too. Put both files (or only one if gapps isn't needed) on the root (not in any folders) of your sd. Once you're rooted you should enter recovery by powering off, then boot holding power and vol up (rooting instructions may take you there anyway). Youll see options to reboot, ms toggle, backup/restore, etc. Go to back up/restore and create a nandroid by following the prompts. Press vol down until you return to the home screen, then go to wipe. Wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik cache. Vol down back to the main screen and flash the new rom and gapps (if needed). ENJOY. Note: Read all instructions thoroughly before rooting. If any instructions i've listed are different then those listed in the official instructions, follow them first. Once you're rooted and begin changing roms frequently you need to always make a nandroid of the current rom your own (in case you dont like the new one or have problems flashing it), wipe data and dalvik (ext partition too if your sd card is partitioned and you're using a rom which allows apps2sd via a partitioned sd card - froyo currently does not), and backup your apps/settings via the app of your choice before flashing. If your upgrading your current rom you usually wont have to do a wipe (the developer will indicate it in the instructions).
It's a good idea to back up your apps before flashing new roms. Titanium is my favorite app but its for root only. Search the market. You can probably find an app to use before you root.
Sent from my Froyo Eris using XDA App
joshw0000 said:
If you want a Froyo rom, that is what you'll need to download. There are about a half dozen in the development section and all mention "Froyo" in the title. Read the entire thread and it's not a bad idea to read some comments. If the developer says you need the google apps aka gapps zip, get it too. Put both files (or only one if gapps isn't needed) on the root (not in any folders) of your sd. Once you're rooted you should enter recovery by powering off, then boot holding power and vol up (rooting instructions may take you there anyway). Youll see options to reboot, ms toggle, backup/restore, etc. Go to back up/restore and create a nandroid by following the prompts. Press vol down until you return to the home screen, then go to wipe. Wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik cache. Vol down back to the main screen and flash the new rom and gapps (if needed). ENJOY. Note: Read all instructions thoroughly before rooting. If any instructions i've listed are different then those listed in the official instructions, follow them first. Once you're rooted and begin changing roms frequently you need to always make a nandroid of the current rom your own (in case you dont like the new one or have problems flashing it), wipe data and dalvik (ext partition too if your sd card is partitioned and you're using a rom which allows apps2sd via a partitioned sd card - froyo currently does not), and backup your apps/settings via the app of your choice before flashing. If your upgrading your current rom you usually wont have to do a wipe (the developer will indicate it in the instructions).
It's a good idea to back up your apps before flashing new roms. Titanium is my favorite app but its for root only. Search the market. You can probably find an app to use before you root.
Sent from my Froyo Eris using XDA App
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Wow, thanks for getting back to me with such detail. Very, very much appreciated. It turns out however, that I won't be able to do this.
I checked out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228
I found that I had release keys under my build number, which indicates is the 2.1 leak - which really sucks, because I got the update OTA... why would they send out a leaked platform? That sucks
Ah well, thanks very much for your help. I'm going to take a look at my brothers phone, and see if we can root that. Thanks
You CAN root ANY eris now. Do a little more research.
Sent from my Froyo Eris using XDA App
my advice would be to save yourself the hadache and just dl the 1 click root app. soo worth it plus it goes to a good cause...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228

Installing Roms...

I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
ibuddha said:
I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
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1) Yes Rom Manager will let you boot directly into clockwork recovery.
2) Yes Nandroid will make a complete backup of your phone software and apps installed, so when you restore a backup it will be the same as when you backed it up.
3) Make your nandroid before wiping anything! Other wise your steps are ok.
Awesome!! And I can make the nandroid back up from clock work right? Also can I move the back up to like a usb or do I have to keep it on the phone?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
Whats great about Clockwork and Nandroid which works well with Clockwork is I have my stock rom all the way to my current. I just keep making backups and I restore if I want to compare. I have the following on my phone.
Stock
Vibrant4
Vibrant5
Vibrant6
Vibrant7
When I get a Rom just the way I like it I make a backup of it so if/when I have to leave it and possibly come back to it I just flash it. Also I would recommend Titanium Backup so you can backup your apps and reload them even if you go back on a rom. Makes reloading settings easier in your apps too.
Ok, so I just made a back up using rom mangers back up rom feature, am I supposed to specifically look for something that says "nandroid"?
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You will only see "nandroid" if you boot your phone into clockwork recovery.
And, no, you don't specifically need to look for it.
aksoutherland said:
Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't you want to keep your backup somewhere NOT on the phone? Because if you brick your phone, or corrupt it or something, wouldn't you have a tough time restoring with your backup file? I don't really get it.
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
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Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
Dang...
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
trunkstar1 said:
Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
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Yeah, I loaded Eugene's ROM and played around with out a bit, then I downloaded rom manager from the market and restored the back up I saved on my sd. It was quick and painless.
jshuford said:
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
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Glad I could help although I'm not sure how I did but sweet. I thought titanium back up was just another way of doing the back up stuff.
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Well...
After having just received my shiny new Vibrant... I just couldn't wait to F*$k with it!
I had been reading through the posts on this forum for several day's and went for it!
I kinda remember how/what I did and you just filled in the blanks.
So...Thank you
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay..
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gay? fine by me
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
lqaddict said:
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
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In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
Any way to get into clockwork recovery without rom manager or if the phone isn't booting up at all? I guess I could always leave an update.zip of clockwork mod on the phone. Is that what everyone else does?
GameOver69 said:
In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
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I have a paid version, I don't think you would need the full version to properly restore the backup. I used it once to flash a different ROM, and I didn't have to re-purchase Titanium Backup again, I don't believe so.
Well every one tells me that the paid version of titanium is better because it updates your apps straight from the market or something like that. I just downloaded the paid version so I'll let you know how that works out.
Sent from my EFFIN' AWESOME Samsung Galaxy S/Vibrant
You can also pack the backed up user apps into update.zip and re-install the packages from the recovery, so no need to re-download the Titanium Backup, it should be there once you re-install packages from the recovery after booting into your new ROM.

[Q] updating gsb 2.0 to 2.6?

So, I'm kinda new at this, as I was told by the forums when trying to post this question in the official gsb thread
I got an eris a few weeks ago for free, and its my first android device. I used it for a while, then rooted it and installed GSB.v2.0-CM7.0.0_RC2_STABLE
I've got it all customized and got some cool apps installed and am loving it. My question is, can I just go into recovery and install GSB.v2.6-CM7.0.0_RC4_STABLE and be good to go, or do I have to back up all my apps and settings and start fresh? I have most of my apps moved to sd. Will they be okay? Also, I went into system and changed my bootscreen, lock and unlock sounds, and added a boot script. I will have to back those up and redo them if anything, right?
skot85 said:
So, I'm kinda new at this, as I was told by the forums when trying to post this question in the official gsb thread
I got an eris a few weeks ago for free, and its my first android device. I used it for a while, then rooted it and installed GSB.v2.0-CM7.0.0_RC2_STABLE
I've got it all customized and got some cool apps installed and am loving it. My question is, can I just go into recovery and install GSB.v2.6-CM7.0.0_RC4_STABLE and be good to go, or do I have to back up all my apps and settings and start fresh? I have most of my apps moved to sd. Will they be okay? Also, I went into system and changed my bootscreen, lock and unlock sounds, and added a boot script. I will have to back those up and redo them if anything, right?
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You will lose your bootscreen during any ROM flash, plus whatever your boot script is I assume it's somewhere where it would get lost, too.
This may not work for your apps and system settings, but it's safe to try, then you'll know for sure if it'll work.
1. Go to your recovery and create a Nandroid backup of everything just the way it is.
2. Wipe Dalvik cache ONLY, do NOT Factory Reset/Wipe Data.
3. Flash GSB v2.6 and immediately after flash the GAPPs package, just like before.
4. If you had flashed the Cache2Cache script before you have to do that again as well, right after flashing the GAPPs.
5. Reboot and test everything to see if everything works to your satisfaction.
If it's doesn't then you have the Nandroid backup that you can restore. I can provide instructions that I use, and at least one other person has recently used and reported good about which uses Titanium Backup, but you'd really probably want to buy it off the market for it to be easier to do Batch backups and Restores (choose Menu/Batch from TB's main screen).
1. First, make sure the option is checked in TB's preferences to "Force to same location". FYI I do NOT use the checkbox for "Migrate system data". At THIS time (you can change it later), I suggest changing the Compression method to No Compression. This'll make sense in step 6.
2. From Menu/Batch, choose "Backup all user apps + system data".
3. Boot into recovery, do a COMPLETE wipe (Factory Reset/Data/Dalvik cache), flash your ROM and then your GAPPs (it's recommended at this time to NOT flash C2C just yet).
4. Reboot, SKIP setup of your Google account, go into Preferences/CyanogenMod settings/Application and check the box for "Allow application moving". I also change "Install location" to External, but that's up to you; this is just what works for me.
5. Boot back into recovery and flash C2C and reboot the ROM again.
6. Use File Manager, which comes with GSB and navigate to the TitaniumBackup folder (not TitaniumBackup-system). Find the Titanium Backup apk app installer file and reinstall it from here.
7. In TB, under Menu/Batch, choose "Restore all apps with data".
After this is done, reboot. If this works for you and you want to do this again in the future, you can make a copy of the Titanium Backup apk file to some other folder, that way you can re-enable compression in TB's preferences for future backups. I recommend LZ0.
I've been using this second method for the last 3-4 new versions of GSB, don't know how it would work with such a big jump in versions. If neither of these work for you, let me know if you still need help.
You will lose your bootanimation and any scripts you have but your apps will be fine. Like WRT said above just make sure you do a nandroid back up in recovery then wipe cache only. Once that's done flash 2.6 and gapps. Enjoy!
DINC|CM7|SLAYHER#27
Awesome. I had done a nandroid and ti backup to prepare, but I never saw the option in ti for force same location. I know how to backup and reinstall my lockscreen sounds and bootani, so I've got that down. Now that I look there's a 2.7 release which integrates the sdcard speed fix, so I won't need my init script now
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I'll post back when its done and tested if there's any issues.
Update: Well everything worked great! Thanks for all the help guys

[Q] Newly rooted. What to do?

Samsung galaxy note i717. I rooted my phone yesterday as I also updated from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2. I have learned a few things about roms, kernels, backing up, restoring, etc.
I have SUPER SU, titanium backup, and ROM manager.
I understand that all rooted phones must have a SU to grant apps access to the software.
As for titanium backup, I have deleted bloatware and backed up and verified all of my information. I also bought the pro version of titanium backup. But for the Rom manager, I'm not too sure how to use that yet. I guess Titanium is for backing up and restoring, and ROM manager is for downloading the new rom?
To get a new rom (someone please recommend one to me? Specifically for good battery life and a customizable UI)
So you have to download it from the computer, then move to your SD card. Afterwards, the computer part is done right? How do you get the phone in the mode to put in the new rom? And do you have to wipe the stock rom first?
Someone please please recommend me a rom and tell me step by step how to do it without bricking my phone... And to restore everything back.
Thank you thank you
I can't say which ROM to use because there is no need for another "best rom" thread.
Just pick one that you think would work well for you. Most CM ROMs have pretty good theming capabilities but being dead honest, any ROM located on XDA would do the trick so research and try a few.
However, you can download the ROM from the thread in the development section and move it with a file explorer to the root of the sd card. Finally there, follow the steps outlined in the thread specific to flashing that particular ROM. They are fairly straight forward.
Make certain the first thing you do is make a backup! Backup backup backup! That way you have options if things go wonky.
If the steps do not make sense on how to flash a ROM, come back here and feel free to ask. Same for restoring a backup. However I will say I have little experience restoring to full stock via Odin, so someone else may need to chime in.
Good luck and happy flashing
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A noob's (i.e. Me) guide to rooting the i717 and flashing a new ROM

So, after much research and trepidation, I flashed my first ROM to my i717 last week. Then I decided I didn't like that ROM and flashed another an hour later. So far it's been stable and speedy. I'm very happy. Thanks to XDA-Developers, Google, the Internet, and everyone who made this possible.
So, now, here's my simplified guide to doing what I did. This should NOT be taken as gospel. Please read as much as you can first. But, in an effort to give back, I thought a simple, step by step guide (or, more like links to the guides I found helpful) would be useful to someone. Are we sitting comfortably? Then let us begin.
1. Go here - http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/ - and root your phone. It will also install ClockworkMod Recovery. Both of these need to be done before you can flash a new ROM.
NOTE: I hear that TWRP is the preferred recovery app. I've tried it and it's very nice. It just so happens that I had ClockworkMod installed when I actually decided to flash a ROM. But use whatever you like.
2. Go to the Play Store and buy Titanium Backup Pro. Well, actually, download the free version then buy the Pro key. There are other backup methods, but I like this one.
3. Backup EVERYTHING. You might never restore a particular app, but best to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I like to use the Google Drive option in Titanium to push by backup off my phone. But you can just hook it up to your PC and copy the backup folder from your SD card to your PC. This is just in case something REALLY bad happens. Best to have an off-phone backup.
4. Find a nice ROM to settle down with. I'm using Revolt (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288566&highlight=revolt) but do your research and find one you like. If you decide to go with something built off Android 4.2 or 4.3 then you'll lose the Samsung Touchwiz stuff (fancy SPen features, etc.), but to me that wasn't as big a deal as I though.
NOTE: Make sure you know if the ROM need an additional Google Apps package. Sometimes they're listed with the ROM, sometimes not. Read and make sure or you could lose a lot of phone features or it may not even boot. Again, READING IS YOUR FRIEND.
5. Save the ROM (and GApps file if needed) to your phone's SD card (internal or external doesn't matter)
6. Boot into recovery (Hold Vol UP+Vol DOWN then press PWR and hold all 3 until you feel a vibration, then let go of PWR). When ClockworkMod (Or TWRP) comes up, RUN A BACKUP!
7. Read 6. Make sure you actually do it. I'll know.
8. Once you're sure you have your Titanium and ClockworkMod backups, follow the instructions for installing the ROM. Usually this involves (from ClockworkMod or TWRP):
a. Factory Reset
b. Wipe Cache (this is usually a part of Factory Reset, but doesn't hurt to do again)
c. Wipe Dalvik Cache (see cyanogen's response here for what this does - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519495)
d. Flash new ROM
e, Flash Google Apps (you can also wipe cache and Dalvik cache between d and e)
9. Now the moment of truth. Reboot. Wait. This can take some time, so don't fret if it seems to be taking too long. I'd say if it's over 15 minutes then you might need to worry, but chill before then)
10. When it does boot, you'll basically have a fresh, new phone. You'll need to enter your Google account and follow all the usual stuff you did when you first got your phone.
11. Leave your phone alone now. You can click around, but don't install anything new just yet. I've seen many a post about letting things settle. So, maybe, poke around for 15-30 minutes just to see but don't change anything. Then Reboot
12. Now reinstall Titanium. You can start reinstalling your apps. DON'T reinstall standard apps or they could break (e.g. email app or its data) as the new ROM might not support the old version of the app. My rule of thumb is don't restore any data I can get back from my online accounts (Email, FB, G+, Keep, etc.). All of your pics and that should be on your SD card and should not need to be restored.
13. That's it. If you enabled a scheduled backup in Titanium you might want to disable it for a while to make sure you like what you have. That way, you can go back if you don't like it.
Hopefully that helps someone. Please forgive any mistakes or omissions and if anyone with more experience wants to give it a once over I'd appreciate it.
Thanks and good luck.
Sorry guy, but on step one there is a very high probability of someone bricking their phone.
Why? Because it has happened about 100 times over the past two years from people using that site/method. If you flash the wrong kernel you kill your precious.
You should edit your step to say in the strongest terms triple check your operating system and get the correct kernel.
And step one is unnecessary because all roms here are already rooted.
1. Flash TWRP using pc and Odin.
2. Download new rom.
3. Boot into recovery.
4. Wipe cache, system, data.
5. Flash rom. Boot and wait 10 minutes.
6. Check settings for networks.
7. Optional modem flash.
Only wipe that's needed is a factory reset within recovery. That wipes /cache too. The dalvik cache resides on the data partition and is thusly wiped as well.
The Rom will have a format /system line within the updater script.
And within titanium backup don't backup or restore system settings (anything in the list that's red.)
And as said rooting first isn't needed unless you've been using stock for awhile and have apps you'd like to backup first... the easiest way to root is simply flash the latest twrp with Odin.. boot into recovery... then when you go to reboot the system it'll see that you're not rooted and ask if you'd like to do so.
Thanks for the feedback. Like I hope I stressed, this is the method that worked for me.
I guess I have the terms mixed up in 1. I'm saying to install ClockworkMod (or TWRP) and root your phone. I want to root it here because I want Titanium installed before I change ROMS so I can go back to exactly how everything was before modding if I want. Does that make sense?
Also, can you tell me what's specifically wrong with the site I link in Step 1? I was on ICS at the time I think. Does it brick if you do it on JB?
I'll change the step to say to go here instead - http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/96
Is that better?
Also, can you explain your cache wipe suggestions. I've seen the official instructions say to Reset, then Wipe Cache, then Wipe Dalvik. I know the last 2 are included in the first, but why are we explicitly asked to do them again? Why do you think we don't?
My thinking behind adding it here is that it does no harm and if some devs think that not doing it will cause problems then why not include it to be extra safe.
If you wanted it back to the way it was before modding anything then you could flash a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup before rooting at all.
Titanium backup needs root. If you want your app data after flashing a rom then that's when it's needed.
As far as extra wiping... putting your arms over your head spinning in a circle while chanting a manta does no harm either and is just as effective.
When you flash as often as I do... you wanna streamline the process. Extra anything is just that... Extra... and is just a waste of time
His first step is correct. No one that I know has bricked their phone using those directions because that link does not install any kernels. And it never did. It works for all versions of android. Even after all this time there is so much misinformation given.
Studacris's help is as good as gold though. He has put me in my place in the past.
Thanks Everyone.

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