Grandfathered in. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry i just want clarification. Being grandfathered in to unlimited data just means you had it as your plan before it was no longer available correct? Reason i ask is i literally just got Verizon service days ago i just wanted to make sure my unlimited data wasn't going to change when they put the cap on.
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Ask a third time. Maybe you'll get a better/faster response.
Sorry to see that search is broken again.

I'm interested in the answer to this, too.
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Oh wait, I just googled it and got the answer in less than 2 minutes.

Ehhh i apologize. Googling is a pain in the ass for me i don't have a lot it time on the phone and when i am i usually have things going on. Sorry.
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Jaskwith said:
Ehhh i apologize. Googling is a pain in the ass for me i don't have a lot it time on the phone and when i am i usually have things going on.
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try going to the library or opening an encyclopedia ha!

Jaskwith said:
Ehhh i apologize. Googling is a pain in the ass for me i don't have a lot it time on the phone and when i am i usually have things going on. Sorry.
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Yeah well flooding the forum with repeat question is a pain in the ass for everyone else.

Jaskwith said:
Sorry i just want clarification. Being grandfathered in to unlimited data just means you had it as your plan before it was no longer available correct? Reason i ask is i literally just got Verizon service days ago i just wanted to make sure my unlimited data wasn't going to change when they put the cap on.
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You're making us Minnesotans look like asses.

Jaskwith said:
Sorry i just want clarification. Being grandfathered in to unlimited data just means you had it as your plan before it was no longer available correct? Reason i ask is i literally just got Verizon service days ago i just wanted to make sure my unlimited data wasn't going to change when they put the cap on.
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Yes, you will get to keep you're unlimited data. Atleast it was in Q&A.

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4g Unlimited on Atrix

OK well i had an Iphone 2g that wasn't unlocked, so i put my sim card with The current 4g hspa+ 2g data plan in it. I activated the Iphone thru Itunes which then switched my plan to and old At&t plan called, Personal Smartphone Data Unlimited, put your sim card back in the Atrix 4g call them and tell them that your Data isn't working on your phone. They will explain that your phone is a 4g and has its own personal plan yada yada yada, then also explains well sir/mam since you have the unlimited data you get to keep it and we make it 4g compatible to your phone. NO THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL AT ALL, ITS TRUE, IF YOUR AND EXISTING USER OF THE OLD UNLIMITED DATA AND THEY TOOK IT, YOU COULD HAVE KEPT IT AND THEY SWITCH IT TO BE COMPATIBLE, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME I WILL UPLOAD PICS OF MY NEW 4G UNLIMITED
lorjay589 said:
OK well i had an Iphone 2g that wasn't unlocked, so i put my sim card with The current 4g hspa+ 2g data plan in it. I activated the Iphone thru Itunes which then switched my plan to and old At&t plan called, Personal Smartphone Data Unlimited, put your sim card back in the Atrix 4g call them and tell them that your Data isn't working on your phone. They will explain that your phone is a 4g and has its own personal plan yada yada yada, then also explains well sir/mam since you have the unlimited data you get to keep it and we make it 4g compatible to your phone. NO THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL AT ALL, ITS TRUE, IF YOUR AND EXISTING USER OF THE OLD UNLIMITED DATA AND THEY TOOK IT, YOU COULD HAVE KEPT IT AND THEY SWITCH IT TO BE COMPATIBLE, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME I WILL UPLOAD PICS OF MY NEW 4G UNLIMITED
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What a moron.
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ceo.mtcl said:
What a moron.
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your saying im a moron
lorjay589 said:
your saying im a moron
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Yup...he called you a moron...
This has already been addressed, in length, on this forum. You should search before re posting old useless news.
This is old news.............like ancient old................People have been doing this for a long long time, and some AT&T reps will even tell you how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698
AND...you posted in the wrong area!
Im confused as to why you are so excited about this? As if you found a loophole.
Oh, and sorry to burst your bubble... but it really isn't unlimited. Its only 5GB
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tykazowsky said:
Im confused as to why you are so excited about this? As if you found a loophole.
Oh, and sorry to burst your bubble... but it really isn't unlimited. Its only 5GB
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To everyone that was being A-holes about the subject im new to At&t i have T-mobile and Sprint. Also thanks to CaelanT for posting the link that would have been a lot more helpful then to just out right call me a moron. If this is suppose to be a good community forum your suppose to help, not try to embarrass. Obviously you can read someones Profile and see what they've included themselves in, and i haven't done much of anything so I'm still kinda new to this, I'm an adult before anything, and B4 i say anything that would make me look like a child im going to just say I APOLOGIZE for being late, and fault me for not knowing that's fine but i have a busy Windows 7 modding life i just started getting really interested in Phones so thanks everyone and i will only post important things and in the correct section lol
sorry to criticize, but we get a LOT of people that open their mouths before thinking or searching. Welcome to the forums though. Hopefully, from here out, you'll enjoy the wealth of knowledge here.
Thank you for sharing lorjay589, just search before positing. Also ceo.mtcl, be nice dude.
Well i go over 5 gig almost every month and i have never been charged for it on my unlimited plan so don't know about the 5 gig cap
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... I'm going to just say I APOLOGIZE ...
...and i will only post important things and in the correct section lol
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1. apology accepted.
2. Please read and search before posting and everyone will be nice to you.
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this is why one of the reason i try not post often here , because of the people here not helping or been rude like they were never new to something!
andesman90 said:
this is why one of the reason i try not post often here , because of the people here not helping or been rude like they were never new to something!
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tykazowsky said:
Im confused as to why you are so excited about this? As if you found a loophole.
Oh, and sorry to burst your bubble... but it really isn't unlimited. Its only 5GB
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For the 11 billionth time, there is no 5GB softcap on smartphone unlimited plans.
That only applies to USB dongle DataConnect plans, not smartphone unlimited plans.
I wish people would learn how to read a contract.
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ceo.mtcl said:
1. apology accepted.
2. Please read and search before posting and everyone will be nice to you.
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lol that apology wasn't for you nipple neck lol i was apologizing to the people that i feel i wasted time coming to look at this, you personally my friend can kick rocks until you break your ankle. Accepting my apology like your deserving of it. LMAO
now can somebody direct me to the delete a thread options, i would really appreciate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sweet...you posted this in Themes and Apps...
Good info dude.
lol --- welcome to the world of FORUMS. where people are arses just to be arses.
Lorjay -- what do you plan on doing with your iPhone 2G? if you go back to the original thread on this subject in the "General" Forums, i believe there are people there that are asking to rent or buy iPhone 2Gs to get this trick done.
rjohnstone said:
For the 11 billionth time, there is no 5GB softcap on smartphone unlimited plans.
That only applies to USB dongle DataConnect plans, not smartphone unlimited plans.
I wish people would learn how to read a contract.
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But they are starting to throttle people who go over 5Gb per month in October!

Sprint capping hotspot to 5gb usage!

Idk if this was already posted but they are capping or unlimeted data pland on tethering. However you can use your browse on your phone without limits :'(
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/09/sprint-capping-phone-as-a-modem-to-5gb-starting-october-2nd/
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They are trying to become Verizon slowly
I like sprints unlimeted data pland
does it really matter if you have unlocked hotspot ?
well then, i guess its a good thing i get it for free
My question is will this also be applied to wifi tethering..not sprints tethering service. We all knew this was coming...when are they going to remove unlimited plans if ever?
life64x said:
My question is will this also be applied to wifi tethering..not sprints tethering service. We all knew this was coming...when are they going to remove unlimited plans if ever?
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I don't think it applies to Wifi Tether and the likes.
The article says that the people who tether "under the radar" are safe from this cap. I can only assume it's people with other tethering options...
life64x said:
My question is will this also be applied to wifi tethering..not sprints tethering service.
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Doubtful. I wouldn't sweat it.
But still, This f*cking iPhone is beginning to piss me off though. It's not worth all of these damn cuts/adjustments.
Noiro said:
Doubtful. I wouldn't sweat it.
But still, This f*cking iPhone is beginning to piss me off though. It's not worth all of these damn cuts/adjustments.
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The iPhone ? In reality the iphone uses less data then android as of know.android users are the one using more data , I can tell you that for reports that I seen and personal usage I have an iPhone and trust me my android device uses more data almost 2 to 3 times more then iPhone does
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The iPhone ? In reality the iphone uses less data then android as of know.android users are the one using more data , I can tell you that for reports that I seen and personal usage I have an iPhone and trust me my android device uses more data almost 2 to 3 times more then iPhone does
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Right, it's just it's not so much the because of the "data" that this hell is coming it's also the volume of users, the subsidizing costs etc.
Noiro said:
Right, it's just it's not so much the because of the "data" that this hell is coming it's also the volume of users, the subsidizing costs etc.
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Well maybe they can finally expand the network if they cone personaly I would get and iPhone but already do so it wouldn't make sense to have 2 iphones and iPad , I prefer to have both ,
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Look like it did not say that it dont affect sero users?
But it sucks that sprint is doing this crap and i use that option
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sero doesn't exist anymore.
tech7 said:
Look like it did not say that it dont affect sero users?
But it sucks that sprint is doing this crap and i use that option
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The handwriting is on the wall, they are not going to have grandfathering on tethering also...next is data on phones..next question..when.
Is this grounds to get out of our contracts?
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runcool said:
sero doesn't exist anymore.
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I beg to differ, since I'm on it...
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NewZJ said:
They are trying to become Verizon slowly
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I hope so. Then maybe I can place a phone call inside my house and have usable 3G speeds.
Anyone still crazy enough to believe tiered data isn't next?
brownhornet said:
Anyone still crazy enough to believe tiered data isn't next?
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If Sprint get's the iPhone, which it looks like they will be, then that pretty much guarantee's they will cap data.
fmedina2 said:
If Sprint get's the iPhone, which it looks like they will be, then that pretty much guarantee's they will cap data.
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Yep, sprint is getting it. And so are we up the you know what soon.
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Is this grounds to get out of our contracts?
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Good question
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What did they do to my account

What does this mean
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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I went through that during the time I activated my phone and I'm still clarifying some AT&T screw up on my account right now. Make sure that your grandfathered in data plan is transferred over and no "pro-rated" addition $10 is added.
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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You didn't notice. The unlimited deactivated is still growing while the new unlimited is still at zero. I will stop by att after work and see about that and the messaging color not changing. Ill see if it changes on the demo and request a new one if it works on that. Hate white background
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Figures, went to att and asked them about it. Tried it again as they looked thru system and it fixed durring the day today some how.
That's a lot of messaging.
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There's nothing wrong with any of that.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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That messaging is 5 phones on a family plan. 3 kids typing away
ifalldownalot said:
my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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My kids do the same thing because they have data blocked
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
nymviper1126 said:
How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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They say they start throttling but I've yet to go over that lately anyways, but there are ways around that too. I have no idea about what vzw users are doing to cheat the vzw system lol. I've thought about going back to vzw, but at the moment its like leaving one thief for another.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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It seems to be like how Comcast does throttling. They nab up a hand full of people and smack them down. Who knows. I've broke past the 4GB mark a few times.

Verizon upped data for same price

I had the 5gb data plan for $50 a month. I just logged into my account and hit change plan because i was thinking about getting more data, and they are offering double data. Now i get 10gb and dont have to pay any extra. Pretty surprised on that one.
Wonder if that works for Hotspots too. Will have to check as I have a 4G Hotspot on a 5GB plan right now that I use for a bunch of non-3G devices.
Updated: Answer is no.
You guys could get unlimited data and unlimited hotspot if you did this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19865701#post19865701
That's good news, I pulled 5 GB last month basically streaming music in the car and with normal usage and that's with being on wifi all day at work because my building is a signal black hole. I don't know how they expect people not to go over these tiers they have, I can only imagine they are getting a lot of complaints from people going over and getting billed for it.
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That's good news, I pulled 5 GB last month basically streaming music in the car and with normal usage and that's with being on wifi all day at work because my building is a signal black hole. I don't know how they expect people not to go over these tiers they have, I can only imagine they are getting a lot of complaints from people going over and getting billed for it.
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I know right I'm like 1 1/2 weeks in to my billing cycle and I'm at 15.4 gb of data
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dpiddy14 said:
You guys could get unlimited data and unlimited hotspot if you did this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19865701#post19865701
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There is no such thing as unlimited hotshot and as far as I know that loophole has been fixed.
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There is no such thing as unlimited hotshot and as far as I know that loophole has been fixed.
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Past three days people still having success doing the loophole. It just depends if you score lucky with a rep.
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antispiral said:
There is no such thing as unlimited hotshot and as far as I know that loophole has been fixed.
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There is a such thing as unlimited hot spot and I have it on my bill.
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The double data deal has been going on since I think late October or early November.
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The double data deal has been going on since I think late October or early November.
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It's still going. At least until the end of April.
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[email protected] said:
That one ended. It restarted Feb 1st and went through Feb 29th. It has now ended again...
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It's the same promotion, no matter how many times they start and stop it.
Is this only for 4G phones or have some of the 3G folks gotten this too?
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Is this only for 4G phones or have some of the 3G folks gotten this too?
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IT is a 4g promotion.
antispiral said:
There is no such thing as unlimited hotshot and as far as I know that loophole has been fixed.
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Another person just did it successfully yesterday.
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My plan is 'Unlimited' but I'm not gonna use up a ton of bw to test it. The fine print always have limitations.
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Another person just did it successfully yesterday.
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I think sooner or latter the ones of us that have truly unlimited data will be able to sell the plans. I have 2 lines with unlimited data. Any takers lol

Family Plans will be forced to use new data share plans?

Before everyone flips out on me... give me a second. So I told my dad he was going to lose his unlimited data if he didn't upgrade his phone by today. Which of course he ends up waiting until today to do. Come to find out that he had to upgrade before today in order to keep his unlimited data. We are on a family share plan and only me and my dad have unlimited data, but my brother and sister, who are also on it, have the 2GB data cap.
So I told him to try to transfer his upgrade to one of them and get the subsidized price and just upgrade it on his line. So he tries to pre-order the SGSIII on my brother's line and this pops up.
"The existing plan Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000, is not compatible with the new device." So it either chooses new individual plan or new share voice and data plan.
What's confusing though is that under smartphone data packages, it doesn't have the new family data plan pricing. It still has 2 GB for $30, 5GB for $50, and 10GB for $80 and under plan shares summary on the left side where the totals are, it does say "Nationwide Account Level Talk & Text Family Share 2000". So I'm confused as F*CK right now and I want my dad to keep his unlimited for at least another 2 years, but I also don't want to lose mine and get screwed over with this new family data share plan. Not to mention that fact that I'm not sure whether they are actually forcing us into this new data share plan or not.
Thoughts? Can anyone who has a family plan with an upgrade vouch?
There is no more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones. You have to purchase the phone out right to keep unlimited now. No upgrading from 3G to 4G and keeping unlimited either I believe.
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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mjones73 said:
Sorry, only way to keep unlimited now is to buy the phone out right. No more grandfathering it on on subsidized phones.
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Sigh... Right over your head
antp121 said:
Put him on an individual account and then merge the two later on. The account change probably wouldnt happen til you activated the phone on your brothers account any ways...They effed up my rezound upgrade/account and that happened. Easy fix :3
Edit: that may not work due to their crap share accounts...
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Sigh... Right over your head
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I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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The problem is I'm not sure whether the share accounts are even in the system yet. It's telling me I have to switch to the data share plan, but doesn't give me the data plan pricing that verizon states.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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mjones73 said:
I'm telling you per their new policies, there's no way to buy a subsidized phone and keep your unlimited data regardless what their system is telling you.. You stated you wanted to keep his unlimited data and get him a subsidized phone, what exactly went over my head?
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You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Hmm. Idk then....
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Not to mention the fact that the same exact plan still pops up that says wasn't compatible with the device.
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graymonkey44 said:
You stated something I already knew. Why would I post this if I didn't know that? Were you aware of people getting unlimited data through the unlimited mobile hotspot promotion? There ARE loopholes. Now please stay on topic and stop telling me things I already know.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Excuse me for not being a mind reader asshole... How the hell am I supposed to know what you already know then you come off like a prick about it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped frequenting this forum.
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Where in the thread title does it say anything about unlimited data? It has to do with the new family plans. Antp understood what I was trying to say. Also keep the personal attacks out of here. I don't want this thread closed because I would actually like an answer.
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I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Also, I would like to add that if the family data share plans aren't forced there should be no reason why an unlimited data line couldn't transfer their upgrade to a 2 GB plan. Have that person upgrade and upgrade the line on the unlimited person's line. Herego unlimited data being kept with an unsubsidized Price.
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prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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Why is everyone pre ordering the SIII? What is so good about it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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There is this awesome thing called www.google.com you should learn to utilize it.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Yes I have searched the GSIII but still same specs almost unless gsm version and 4.8 inches is to big for me it's like the g-note and as well touchwiz I dont like.
But I do like the design and thats about it and I dont know about camera quality vs Rezound.
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Battery life man. The S4 processor is a beast. Many reviewers said the thing is damn hard to.kill in a day under normal use.
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prdog1 said:
I ordered the SIII yesterday and it let me keep my old unlimited data plan but mine was an individual plan.
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So you decided to go for it too.
I pre-ordered mine back when we where talking on the mik.
I don't even really want the thing, I absolutely LOVE my rezounds but I figured I might as well grab the last subsidized phone available.
Op simple fix. If it isn't broken don't fix it! People really need to stop buying new phones. If you have unlimited, on any plan/network/phone please don't upgrade.
And I also agree with the screen being way to big and hassle.
Not to be off point here... But my HTCG2 ....grandfather'd from G1...to G2(HSPDA+)....2yrs still running...Running (ROOTED) ROM PORTED ISC4.4 my 4g speed is fast (check my post's for non believers) for proof of batt stats but I get close too 2days on normal usage...point is They didn't do an upgrade to the G2(*GOOGLE DEV PHONE) yet... and ur dad wants an S3? ....third one already and they keep making them to get ppl to *Want* to upgrade to get the better contracts out the way. Advice would be if you like the phone you have and are satisfied don't take any chance in 2012....(sry long)
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
Well everyone's completely missing the point of my post. I'm trying to figure out if Verizon is indeed trying to force us into these new data share plans if you're on a family plan.

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