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Hi,
Is it possible to install Vanilla Android 2.3.X on Galaxy S2 ? i am not impressed by the bloat that is currently installed by Samsung (or lite'ning rom for that matter). I would like to start fresh with vanilla and start customizing (i am looking for something that a Nexus S customer would see on their phones...pure google experience or whatever they call it...)
I have looked at Development thread/googled but to no avail.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction ?
Thanks !!!
Hey, I wanted to know if there is any progress here, I'm looking for something quite the same, a minimal original android software.
Yes, from what I've searched because i love Aosp android myself. Basically you have two options, one is to flash Cyanogen mod 7, its based off stock android and has all the stock apps, has stock everything. The other option is another rom thats just stock android no CM and is built by a guy named adamG.
Cm7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112916
Stock Aosp by adam G http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063
Thanks for the quick reply!
So, I think the CM7 is a better choice, only because it's better known than the other rom and has more support.
I heard that soon Samsung will release a 2.3.4 rom. Will it be stock android (vanilla)?
galmgnt said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
So, I think the CM7 is a better choice, only because it's better known than the other rom and has more support.
I heard that soon Samsung will release a 2.3.4 rom. Will it be stock android (vanilla)?
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Nope! Haha the chance of samsung releasing a stock android version is second to none. Touchwiz is their baby, they market the whole GS2 experience based off touchwiz, they will never ever release a stock android version. Your only option is either cm7 or other roms and yes, cm is quite nice i just flashed it today, first rom flash on this thing for me. I really like the no frills android experience.
Though!!! Keep in mind that since CM7 is still in the testing phase, expect some functionality from the stock samsung rom to be lost, id give the thread a good read before deciding to flash or not. One major example is that 1080P recording will not work on cm7.
just a word of warning, CM7 or the devNULL, both are still at their infancy with some limitations. If the limitations bother you, wait a few days, at least for the CM7 release version.
I see. Well, basically I'm looking for the minimalist rom (in order to save battery life).
If the CM7 it is, than it only make things easier.
If you are looking for "minimalist" indeed, check this one out too, based on CM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170249
I am dying to check this out, the only thing keeping me off is the effort t re-install and re-customize another rom within a few hours
Wow, it looks great! minimal look is the best.
But I see that all those rom are still in beta..
So, the only way to disable Touchwiz completely and get the "stock interface" is to install another rom?
galmgnt said:
Wow, it looks great! minimal look is the best.
But I see that all those rom are still in beta..
So, the only way to disable Touchwiz completely and get the "stock interface" is to install another rom?
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you can install another launcher, i.e. launcher pro. but that is only a home screen/launcher replacement the touchwiz apps/menus will still be there.
But it will kill my battery.
OK, so those 3 roms are my best shot.. thanks!
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But it will kill my battery.
OK, so those 3 roms are my best shot.. thanks!
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No a different launcher wont affect battery.
I think Im ready to move back to a Froyo Rom from the Flashback Rom. I cant wait any longer for the kernel update. What is the fastest and most stable 1.2 bootloader Froyo Rom? What is the closest thing to the old VeganTab 5.1.1? That was my favortie Rom from bootloader 1.1. If I had the time I would try them all but I got a newborn at home so no time. thanks
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I think Im ready to move back to a Froyo Rom from the Flashback Rom. I cant wait any longer for the kernel update. What is the fastest and most stable 1.2 bootloader Froyo Rom? What is the closest thing to the old VeganTab 5.1.1? That was my favortie Rom from bootloader 1.1. If I had the time I would try them all but I got a newborn at home so no time. thanks
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I hear you, I like the eye-candy of the Honeycomb roms but I've always been a performance over eye-candy kinda guy.
That being said, I've tried all forms of roms on this tablet but the one I kept going back to (and currently using) is the Beasty/Clemsyn rom which ironically also uses VTL (Vegan Tab Launcher) as its default launcher.
Using SetCPU will allow you to OC to 1.6 as well as undervolt it. (gets kinda hot at 1.6 without undervolting)
Get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084573
There is actually an easy way to get the 5.1.1 ROM on BL 2.0. Just install the 1.1 ROM and flash a 1.2 Kernel over it before rebooting. I used Clems newest Froyo kernel.
The fastest I've come across the the C&C ROM. Fast, and stable, with almost everything working. I say "almost" because myself and a few others have problems with gifs on web pages from some unknown reason. My second choice, and the one I use, is Brilliant Corners.
Btw Clemesyn has released the Ultimate froyo ROM. A port from notion ink. I think you should try it. The rom is in development thread
Which one is better, the Clemsyn+Caulkin or Clemsyn+Beastly rom? Or are they the same just visually different?
MechAniX.one said:
Which one is better, the Clemsyn+Caulkin or Clemsyn+Beastly rom? Or are they the same just visually different?
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On my Gtab, Clemsyn+Beasty is way faster. Stable as a heavy rock. I've run a lot of different roms, but have found none that can match C+B for my usage.
BTW, if you do decide to go with Beasty, make sure that you get his latest update. I believe it was released 10-14-2011. I had an earlier version, and had some Skype issues with it. The new version has corrected those.
I should mention that I have also run the C+C rom (yesterday in fact) just to compare. Nope, doesn't come close to the speed of C+B.
Good luck.
Just flashed C+B from recommendations on this thread. Loving it so far.
Does the portrait orientation drive anybody else insane?
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C+C vs C+B
MechAniX.one said:
Which one is better, the Clemsyn+Caulkin or Clemsyn+Beastly rom? Or are they the same just visually different?
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Main thing is C+C has the Tap-n-Tap elements and C+B is a NI/Adam port which is more Android like.
I cannot stand the Tnt menus, so my daily is C+B. And its FAST, stable, and everything works.
Thank you everyone for posting. I will try out the Clemsyn+Beastly rom. It sounds like a true beast. Ill post back with my experience on it.
Personally i would try the rom Brilliant Corners. It is hands down my favorite Froyo rom.
Why don't you give VEGanTab 7.1 a try, it is Gingerbread 2.3. Everything works on that ROM, camera, BT, h.264 video etc. OC to 1.6 using Clemsyn's Gingerbread kernel.
xredjokerx said:
Does the portrait orientation drive anybody else insane?
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As far as viewing angles? Yes.
tsukaza said:
Why don't you give VEGanTab 7.1 a try, it is Gingerbread 2.3. Everything works on that ROM, camera, BT, h.264 video etc. OC to 1.6 using Clemsyn's Gingerbread kernel.
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Looks like an interesting rom, and I'd try it IF they could get the video camera working. I use Skype for video chats, and since the camera in VT 7.1 only works in still mode, not video, that is a deal killer for me.
Nice eye candy though.
I am having problems with this rom. I am posting here because I didn't have sufficient credit to post in the actual thread. I flashed and it works great, but now whenever I try to install an apk, it reboots every single time and never installs. Any ideas on how to fix this? I went back to factory firmware and wiped everything completely clean before flashing to this rom.
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I am having problems with this rom. I am posting here because I didn't have sufficient credit to post in the actual thread. I flashed and it works great, but now whenever I try to install an apk, it reboots every single time and never installs. Any ideas on how to fix this? I went back to factory firmware and wiped everything completely clean before flashing to this rom.
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After flashing I always boot back into recovery and wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvic as well. Wives your issues I would also suggest fixing permissions.
Try this and see if it helps.
Thanks Joeb. Everytime I went back to recovery it was the built in recovery from the rom and not the cwm one. I just chose wipe factory/user data and all works now. One thing I noticed coming from gtacomb was the gtacomb browser had more features and was 10x faster than the one that comes with this rom. Anyway to get the honeycomb version of browser on this tab?
On my gtablet C+C is faster than C+B.... As everyone was saying that C+B was the faster froyo rom I gave it another try on past weekend but I still feel that C+C is faster and more stable...
Maybe it's because I'm not using any app to manage the overclock features?
Does VeganTab 7.1 have hardware acceleration? We might be able to have skype videochats working if we flash Clemsyn fix for that...
I have tryed many of Roms and Flashed my Gtab more then I can think of and always end up reloading Beast. To me its seems to be the most stable and reliable Rom for Froyo. I like that I can customize it with different boot Images and wallpaper to make it almost portray Vegan 7.0. If one was to choose a everyday user I would believe that Beast would be hands down the one to choose. As far as the browser issue I don't use the one it came with and use Dolphin HD. Way better and a perfect match for this Rom.
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
I have never used CM7 since I just got my Touchpad a few weeks ago when CM9 was out. But CM9 is stable. Just doesnt have camera or mic working. I dont know if these issues are the same with CM7. But if your mom has no need for all the apps android has to offer, she can just use webOS which is more stable than both CM7 and CM9.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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Dont bother at all with CM7. CM9 and other ICS roms are far more stable. Pretty much everything works except for the camera and microphone. Battery life is nowhere near as good as in webOS, expect about 2 days of standby or about 5 hours of constant usage. Some people have wifi issues, but they're more often than not fixed by setting the router to avoid higher channels (keep it on 6 or below). The vibrate motor also for some reason stops working after the device goes into sleep, and the only way to get it going again is to reboot but I dont think that's a big issue for anyone.
As for a ROM, I'd recommend CM9 not because its the best but because its the one I'm most familiar with, and I can say its fairly stable. Sometimes it will randomly reboot, but never while actively using it. I'm using a nightly, but since you're giving this to a family member you might be better off with the better tested Alpha 2.
Stable Rom: Classicnerd
For me the most stable rom has been classicnerd's latest version. I have been using it and donot get any force closes or reboots. You can find the latest version at classicnerd.net/Betas/
as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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Dual booting is the only way to do it. As far as I know, you cant replace webOS. When you follow the instructions to install android, you also install what is called a moboot that lets you select which operating system to boot into when starting the device. Switching between the two is easy and is just a matter of restarting your device.
Wond3r said:
I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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CM7, yes.
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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Just depends on how adept she is at technology. If she can decently run a computer and text, she should be mostly okay. The one thing I would highly recommend is to make sure she can fix the wifi authentication problem. Basically, every now and then, wifi will have an authentication problem. When this happens, she needs to go to wifi settings, forget the router, toggle wifi off/on, and sign back into the router. This problem usually occurs for me when I leave wifi on and then reboot or get a random reboot. Takes maybe a minute to fix. As far as ROM, I like oat's light and tasty, although they're all pretty good, as they have the same base.
Sorry, I have to get this out of my system, then I'll be back to polite nice Canadian. In short, try one and see.
<rant mode on>
One of these days, people will actually glance through the forums as opposed to posting a new thread. This thread has been duplicated many other times before now.
In the end, again, just grab one, take it for a spin, and try it. Start with the more official ones, and work out from there until you find something you like. If nothing suits your fancy, take the source and make your own. It's pretty simple. So please stop spamming the boards with "Which ROM should I use" threads. </rant mode off>
MikeyCriggz said:
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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I have tried CN and others but, I think that Oat's light n' tasty is the best so far. All my games run great and so does netflix and YouTube. But, a Rom is only good if it runs the apps you like. You I'll have to find the one that works best for you. I still think webOS is still good. Just my $0.02
I figured one more opinion can't hurt.
I've been using AOKP on my touchpad ever since I found out that they build roms for hp touchpads. It's great, so is CM9 but for some reason my touchpad refuses to behave with CM9, I'm talking random reboots, wifi issues, SOD (screen of death), and so on. ClassicNerd is also great too but I fell in love with the ROM control options available with AOKP.
Either way, one of the earlier posts mentioned that battery life is weak with ICS which is NOT the case for me, I always have wifi on, with my CPU overclocked to the maximum available frequency and get about 7 days, yes 7 DAYS, of standby and at least a full day of constant use.
As for skype, it is not fully functional with all android devices, just the few that the skype people officially support, I've tried it on my phone and it gave me a lot of issues, so even if the mic and cam were working I doubt skype would work well enough on the TP.
Obviously as others have mentioned earlier ICS is much better on the TP than GB, plus you have the great option of dual booting so you could always use WebOS which is pretty decent itself.
All in all, the TP was a great $100 investment and has a lot of support from some great devs out there. My almost 3 years old nephew has one and he loves it too lol
if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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I found your answer on another thread:
cdzo72 said:
I read somewhere that the tweaks were in one way or another no longer relevant or in some form had been incorporated into Android starting with Gingerbread... I think the post is actually in this thread. I myself was using it for a while but after reading that I stopped flashing it and haven't missed it
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ROM reference link
For those who havnt heard of it: I have never been a big ICS fan. I loved the look of it (im a sucker for blue), but I always found its functionality/performance to be inferior to GB. Ive tried all of the major ICS roms, and I ended up reverting back to CM7 everytime almost immediately. Then I came across Chimera, and WOWWWW!! aside from all of the bells, whistles, and extra goodies, I found it to be great under the hood as well, which is most important to me. As close to GB/CM7 as you can get. So for all the ICS fans who have not checked it out, I strongly suggest you give it a whirl...and this is coming from one of the biggest critics of ICS (at least for the vibrant)
Now, for those who are using it/have used it, i have two questions:
1. Were you able to get any sort of BLN working on it (either native or third party)?
2. What kernels did you try, and which did you find to maximize your experience and why?
The forum thread (at least on their website) is fairly young and theres not much useful info at all yet (if any).
I tried Chimera for 2 days and my phone didn't like it...i also couldn't figure out how to enable BLN notifications and i had several SoD...you will have probably some kind of support on their FB page if everybody is in good mood...however is a nice rom but feels like still needs something
Well BLN functionality is dictated by the kernel. This ROM is described as a hybrid of aokp/cm9, but mostly aokp. so i was hoping the CM9's native BLN would have been incoporporated into the Heart kernel, but sadly it wasnt. nor was third party BLN support.
I initially installed Heart, because that waswhat is recommended. For the hell of it i installed Subzero, and i was able to get the third party BLN running on that, but video streaming for me was HORRIBLE on Subzero. Thats a deal-breaker, id much rather have no BLN than no video stream...thanks for playing, Subzero.
ill rock this puppy for a few weeks unless i run into major issues, see if any good updates are released. the ROM does need work, but its damn good for only being version 1.1. it is still young!
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Well BLN functionality is dictated by the kernel. This ROM is described as a hybrid of aokp/cm9, but mostly aokp. so i was hoping the CM9's native BLN would have been incoporporated into the Heart kernel, but sadly it wasnt. nor was third party BLN support.
I initially installed Heart, because that waswhat is recommended. For the hell of it i installed Subzero, and i was able to get the third party BLN running on that, but video streaming for me was HORRIBLE on Subzero. Thats a deal-breaker, id much rather have no BLN than no video stream...thanks for playing, Subzero.
ill rock this puppy for a few weeks unless i run into major issues, see if any good updates are released. the ROM does need work, but its damn good for only being version 1.1. it is still young!
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Have you tried installing the FATMEM 720p Video Fix for subzero kernel? My youtube app would force close for every video and netflix refused to play until I installed this. Now they both work fine.
Post: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/22833-kernelics16-may-subzero-v12-build-80-yars-revenge/
Direct Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?pdhsi77eyads2p2
however is a nice rom but feels like still needs something
Atudadin said:
however is a nice rom but feels like still needs something
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Ok so what does it need????
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Hows the GPS?
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GPS is quick and accurate but DS kills it like with all other ICS roms.
new chimera kernel is out...v1.3. gps lock after ds, bln, 911 too. havent tried any video streaming yet...wait, does youtube count? if so, then yes.
Hi there, it's me again!
After being away for quite some time due to a lot of issues with my netbook, and being busy with school, I recently checked the progress on the Flyer. As expected, Dexter did an excellent job already on Jelly Bean.
I tried the ROM, and I gotta say I'm quite satisfied with it. FWIW, I am thinking about getting the 3.0 kernel from the DHD to run on the Flyer. But, I have another project I'm thinking about which sounds more interesting.
So, is anyone interested in Open WebOS on the HTC Flyer? I am considering to give it a try this week, but only if there is some potential interest from the community. It would pretty much be an effort where I try to combine various challenges: getting WebOS to boot, and getting the Raspberry Pi to compile Android kernels, since my netbook does a horrible job at this.
Please report if it sounds interesting for you, and if I get positive answers, I'll do some research on the structure of OWOS.
Although WebOS seems nice I'd rather see you beat the crap out of JB and try to get it fully working until you say "I can't take this any further".
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Although WebOS seems nice I'd rather see you beat the crap out of JB and try to get it fully working until you say "I can't take this any further".
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I'm not sure, I actually think JB has 1 major dev working on it. Sometimes it's better to have multiple, good, mostly stable options too chose from than 1 completely perfect one.
That aside, I don't use bluetooth headset so some people who do really want the devs to pool their work into that.
I'm all for web os though. And dual boot (don't push yourself ) would be awesome.
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I'm not sure, I actually think JB has 1 major dev working on it. Sometimes it's better to have multiple, good, mostly stable options too chose from than 1 completely perfect one.
That aside, I don't use bluetooth headset so some people who do really want the devs to pool their work into that.
I'm all for web os though. And dual boot (don't push yourself ) would be awesome.
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
Mine VM with Ubunto is stil there for u if u decide to give Flyer some more of your time. Am I interested? I am interested in Flyer with as much hardware working posible; working BT for voice calls, music and movei playback. As long as those work well i dont care even if it is Win 3.11EE if it runs nice and smooth. However Geting camera and hw movie playback suport on JB would be very nice and would get the ROM to TOP level. U cracked those nuts on ICS; any way u give it a try on JB?
Welcome Back CHAOS I agree with Antis (even though I don't really Know the advantage of WebOs) i was hoping that You could do something like get the front camera working for Skype
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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No HW playback support, no cammera and videorecorde, some flickering i belive,... rest is nearlly all there! So close to top BUT BT is FIXED (no report if for calls as well but rest been tested and reported 100% working BT functionalities)
I am not sure dual boot would be neat but i know thats asking alot. but like every one else don't matter to me if it JB OR ICS as long as we can get a nice and smooth working rom that has BT good HW for movies ect and cameras working i will be as happy as a puppy with to peckers ....
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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Hardware Acceleration for video playback. WebOS would be interesting.
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Hi there, it's me again!
After being away for quite some time due to a lot of issues with my netbook, and being busy with school, I recently checked the progress on the Flyer. As expected, Dexter did an excellent job already on Jelly Bean.
I tried the ROM, and I gotta say I'm quite satisfied with it. FWIW, I am thinking about getting the 3.0 kernel from the DHD to run on the Flyer. But, I have another project I'm thinking about which sounds more interesting.
So, is anyone interested in Open WebOS on the HTC Flyer? I am considering to give it a try this week, but only if there is some potential interest from the community. It would pretty much be an effort where I try to combine various challenges: getting WebOS to boot, and getting the Raspberry Pi to compile Android kernels, since my netbook does a horrible job at this.
Please report if it sounds interesting for you, and if I get positive answers, I'll do some research on the structure of OWOS.
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Wow..it would definitely be very interesting! WebOS still will be a cool OS to try out.
By the way, thanks for coming back & welcome!
WebOS would be so slick.
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I'm def interested!
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@Chaos-X u been asked for Kernel source on :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724246&page=54
i belive to help with video decoding fix wich is missing in latest JB... U think u can help with this?
I personally would prefer a fully working JB ROM (we're sooooo close now), but WebOS would be a cool OS to fiddle with.
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Chaosz-X said:
I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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-Camera (front\back)
-Cant change CPU clock
-Some bugs with graphics
-External SD on AOKP is bad
-Boot animation
If you help him do it, it will be best ROM. Please.
yes, or maybe no...
while I'm a huge fan of webOS and would love to see it on the flyer I think your time may be better utilized by teaming with Dexter to finish ironing out the wrinkles in his JB build first, then perhaps a dual-boot option?
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Hardware Acceleration for video playback. WebOS would be interesting.
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I loved web os on my palm pre, just didn't like the hardware. I would love to have it on my view. Especially if we could dual boot it.
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rydehard86 said:
I loved web os on my palm pre, just didn't like the hardware. I would love to have it on my view. Especially if we could dual boot it.
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Never seen Palm Pre in russia. Is it good device?
kayoma said:
Never seen Palm Pre in russia. Is it good device?
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Slide out keyboard had very small keys and the slider mechanism was very poor. Screen was also very small compared to today's phones. The only nice thing was wireless charging. That was awesome.
WebOS ran very well on it though.
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