Hey guys,
I'm in a very unfortunate but serious situation here.
My X10 outright refuses to charge via the power point ( please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054455 ). And, now, I'm using the EWJet ROM with Zdzihu's custom kernel. My battery is at 0% (charging is a pain, really slow - also, I don't think it's calibrated properly), and, since I'm using this kernel, I cannot off-line charge!
So, I'm looking for an alternative how to charge my battery. Would cutting my cable and matching the positive and active wire's to the battery's positive and negative terminal's be sufficient? If so, how long should I keep it there for at least some charge to get my battery up enough to start my device?
Thanks guys,
Regards,
Mayazcherquoi.
I wouldn't rly suggest cutting the wires since the x10 has internal circuitry that protects the battery, the battery itself should have circuitry too if memory serves right. You could do it if you know what your doing but Li-On batteries tend to be explosive if you don't know what you're doing. If you push for this method I'd suggest having a voltmeter close to check the battery and charger voltage before starting.
You could try finding a wireless charge pad compatible for the x10 if repairing the phone isn't possible. Since you mentioned cutting the cable and matching the wire and such I figure you're handy. So why not try replacing the micro usb connector? I mean its already busted anyway.
EDIT: Charge pad like this http://store.androidandme.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-powermat.htm , hopefully you can find something cheaper :S
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I wouldn't rly suggest cutting the wires since the x10 has internal circuitry that protects the battery, the battery itself should have circuitry too if memory serves right. You could do it if you know what your doing but Li-On batteries tend to be explosive if you don't know what you're doing. If you push for this method I'd suggest having a voltmeter close to check the battery and charger voltage before starting.
You could try finding a wireless charge pad compatible for the x10 if repairing the phone isn't possible. Since you mentioned cutting the cable and matching the wire and such I figure you're handy. So why not try replacing the micro usb connector? I mean its already busted anyway.
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Thing is, I don't really have the parts :-/ And I kind of need this up and running by tonight I cut the wires from an old Motorola phone charger (unable to determine which is positive and negative) which details at OUTPUT: 5.0V - 550mA, and practising on an old O2 Graphite Lithium Ion battery (to no avail ) which outputs at 3.7V - 1100mAh.
So far, no explosions. Is this okay to practice on?
Thank you.
Use a voltemeter to determine the polarity. The old phone battery circuitry may be refusing to charge since the battery may have dipped below the minimum allowed voltage to prevent any danger. Since you've gone this far I suppose it won't hurt to see if you can get it going, check the polarity first of the charger though.
Explosions only happen at the instant of trying to charge a dead li-ion without circuitry or trickle charge and also in the event of excessive current which would be heat related.
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Use a voltemeter to determine the polarity. The old phone battery circuitry may be refusing to charge since the battery may have dipped below the minimum allowed voltage to prevent any danger. Since you've gone this far I suppose it won't hurt to see if you can get it going, check the polarity first of the charger though.
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Thing is, I don't have a voltmeter
Is there absolutely no visual difference between the wires? Post A picture.
Hmm... I'd guess this question will return a no as an answer but, do you have an LED handy that you could use in series with a resistor as a visual aid?
kindred7 said:
Is there absolutely no visual difference between the wires? Post A picture.
Hmm... I'd guess this question will return a no as an answer but, do you have an LED handy that you could use in series with a resistor as a visual aid?
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Unfortunately, I don't have an LED, but I have a motor. Depending on how I connect it, it will spin either clockwise or counter-clockwise (I think). How could I determine the positive and negative from that?
And no, the wires of the Motorola Charger were split, and both coloured black. Inside the black insulation, however, is just the standard copper colour.
This is the best illustration I could find: http://mohitjoshi999.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/080609_0658_dcmotorinte2.png
Clockwise has the positive at the top of the motor, assuming the rotor faces out (The page didnt specify but I would think that would make more sense).
Hope that helps.
EDIT: By rotor I mean the shaft.
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This is the best illustration I could find: http://mohitjoshi999.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/080609_0658_dcmotorinte2.png
Clockwise has the positive at the top of the motor, assuming the rotor faces out (The page didnt specify but I would think that would make more sense).
Hope that helps.
EDIT: By rotor I mean the shaft.
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I don't know, I'm kind of doubting it changes sides now since it's too fast.
By that diagram, I think I've found which is which. Still quite uncertain though.
If it's a typical dc motor it will change as you alter polarity.
If you have paper clips you can wrap two on the rotor, if they are different colour it would be even better. That way you could decern what direction it's turning.
kindred7 said:
If it's a typical dc motor it will change as you alter polarity.
If you have paper clips you can wrap two on the rotor, if they are different colour it would be even better. That way you could decern what direction it's turning.
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Good idea.
Okay, I think I've got it. I've marked the negative (black wire) with some sticky tape.
What now?
Also, thank you so much
Since you have the polarity figured you you could go ahead and try it again on the old battery just to be sure if it can give you any indication of charging. If not try it on the xperia battery. Id suggest monitoring the temperature of the battery while charging by sense of touch, if it feels hot pull it off and let it cool before continuing.
The xperia battery is 5.4 Whr and the power going into the battery is 2.75W, so it should take 1.96 hrs to fully charge, assuming max current. So about 59 minutes will give you 50%.
EDIT: I used the xperia charger power instead of the one you're using
best thing to do is charge it in the car. rev the engine or get it up to 180km/h and that should cause it to start charging and since you have the custom kernel, it will turn on and continue charging. I hope it works, I had the same problem
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Hi all,
I've been looking at a solar powered charger for my Jasjam, and the one that seems to catch my eye the most is this one called the "Scotty":
http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/acatalog/Scotty_Charger.html
I know that the limitation in USB Car Chargers about having to solder pins 4 and 5 to get it to charge will probably also affect this solar charger as well, but has anyone had any direct experience with either this one or another brand?
Can you get enough juice out of it to charge a Tytn / Jasjam?
Don't know about that one. But here's a recommended Solio one for mobile devices with press releases:
http://www.solio.com/v2/
thanks for that link, it looks pretty good as well, if not better given that it has a greater total solar panel area. The first one I found can swap the internal batteries for standard AA's for instant power if required which is what makes me lean towards that... hmm... decisions, decisions. I hate making choices like that! haha
galaxys said:
Don't know about that one. But here's a recommended Solio one for mobile devices with press releases:
http://www.solio.com/v2/
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Well, just another FYI for everyone here... I ended up getting the Solio Solar charger (http://www.solio.com/v2/).
Many thanks to Galaxys for the suggestion. It charges to almost full after a full day of sunlight and stores 1 and a half full charges for my Jasjam. It's great for weekends away and is small and compact for that extra peace of mind of having a portable charge. Unfortunately, word has gotten around that I now have it and occasionally some friends of mine who forget to charge their phones ask to use it.
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Well, just another FYI for everyone here... I ended up getting the Solio Solar charger (http://www.solio.com/v2/).
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iam looking for solar charger as well and got two questions regarding the solio. is the solio hard enough to take some outdoor activities (dirt/rain/drops) to a certain level and do i have to solder the pins in order to charge my tytn?
thanks
chaos42
chaos42 said:
iam looking for solar charger as well and got two questions regarding the solio. is the solio hard enough to take some outdoor activities (dirt/rain/drops) to a certain level and do i have to solder the pins in order to charge my tytn?
thanks
chaos42
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g'day!
It's a well made and solid little device, but by no means is it indestructible... I store it in a ziplock plastic bag just in case it gets wet. If it's raining, then I won't pull it out to use because there won't be enough sunlight anyway (but I guess you could cover it in something if you really wanted to).
Also, in regards to the pin soldering, I haven't had to do that. So far it has worked perfectly each time without it.
It does have one interesting feature which is good and bad at the same time. Once it detects that the phone is fully charged, it stops sending power to the device. I assume it does this to conserve the power in it's own battery (but I guess this stops you from using it as an "extended battery" for the phone.
So far I've used it to charge my Jasjam, Bluetooth GPS and a couple of other Motorola phones and it has worked each time.
If you've got any more questions, let me know. Hope this is useful.
hiho dinty,
thanks for the quick reply. It was indeed very helpful.
I am going to order my solio right now and looking forward to my next trip to the desert in november
cheers chaos42
what about human/mechanical chargers? wouldnt those work good too? at least for short burst charges... u know like those devices u shake and stuff
Wind and Sun charger
Just found this site. There are about to release a wind and sun powered charger. looks quite promising.
http://www.hymini.com/
but no word about a release date or price rigth now ;(
cheers
chaos42
Maplin battery box hacked..
Maplin sell a battery box with solar panel in the lid.
I buy these, take out the panel which is on grp board & well made, wire a diode & charger plug & socket, & glue velcro loop all over the back.
They are cheap, give an open circuit output of 7.5 volts, and can flow up to 250 mA in bright sunshine.
They don't damage my phones or pdas, which in any case seem to have conditioning circuits in them.
Can buy at £15 usual price or £8 when on offer.
I am able to parallel any number of these together for more current, or in series to a cigar lighter smpsu to give a regulated 5 volts.
The panels can get wet, no problem, & the phone being charged stays dry inside a sandwich box.
I discovered that for Wizard/Hermes a current maximum of 1 amp has to be observed up to 80% charge, then reduce to 1/4 amp to top it. For other pdas the current max is lower.
Hope this helps.
Peter
Dinty said:
Hi all,
I've been looking at a solar powered charger for my Jasjam, and the one that seems to catch my eye the most is this one called the "Scotty":
http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/acatalog/Scotty_Charger.html
I know that the limitation in USB Car Chargers about having to solder pins 4 and 5 to get it to charge will probably also affect this solar charger as well, but has anyone had any direct experience with either this one or another brand?
Can you get enough juice out of it to charge a Tytn / Jasjam?
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chaos42 said:
Just found this site. There are about to release a wind and sun powered charger. looks quite promising.
http://www.hymini.com/
but no word about a release date or price rigth now ;(
cheers
chaos42
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The post is quite old, but nevertheless i will post a reply just in case someone bumps into it and thinks - Wow! a wind charger, let me search the web and get one for myself.
Well, in the latter case stay away from Uniross brand windchargers(I own one)
I have written a review in Amazon. Here it is:
Well, i was very excited to buy this gadget (costed me 30 EUR in Paris ). I bike a lot and this was also meant to be used for outdoor hiking activities.
But..
First of all the lack of any type of power meter renders the device unreliable to the point of uselessness. You take the charger (with a 1200 mAh battery inside) and you have no idea how much of the battery is filled. You can put it to charge from mains, and maybe be shure that it is charged in some 3-4 hours (not mentioned in manual). But then, if i needed an external battery, there are definitely better choices.
Second: You cannot charge your device and charge the device simultaneously, nor you can charge your device "on the go"-directly from wind..
Third: You cannot turn on the quite weak led lights in front of the device and charge it simultaneously (so, for example if you bike in the evenings when it is late, you have to chose, either you use it's light for safety, or you charge the device.)
Forth: in the description on Uniross site it is said "Can also be charged through a computer or through wall plug". Well, it can be only charged using supplied wall plug, no wire for computer charging..
Fifth: It almost has no effect on my HTC HD2 (1230 mAh). The charging current for my device is quite hight ~ 1 A. So make sure your device will agree on some 500 mA of charging current (most of them will probably)
Sixth: It does need quite strong wind to charge, it starts to charge when your speed (in no wind condition) gets around 15 km/h. People say it needs some 15 km of ride to be fully charged. How they managed to estimate that the charger is fully charged - i have no idea.
Seventh: The charging indicator (which tells you that the speed is enough for charging), is placed right in front of the charger, so to see if it does charge you have to dangerously lean forward or ask the aproaching bikers if they see a green LED light- truly stupid design flaw.
Eighth (the most annoying and stupid): YOU HAVE TO CHARGE IT FROM MAINS FOR SOME 20% BEFORE YOU CAN START CHARGING IT FROM WIND!! Can you imagine how dumb this condition is.. first - there is no way to know how long should i charge it from mains to get the necessary 20%. Then, when i am outdoor and lets say charging the phone - if i use all the juice - the charger will become useless, as there won't be a possibility for another startup charging. Then I have to charge till it is decreased to 20% and use the wind to charge it back. HA! there is now way to know that it is on 20%,10% or 30%... how dumb the design and functioning can be... This is truly a raw device they let out on market. Shame for Uniross.
(i will stop here because it is too late...)
I wish i would have read a review like this before i went and got this piece of ... something... Hope it helps someone else.
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Seventh: The charging indicator (which tells you that the speed is enough for charging), is placed right in front of the charger, so to see if it does charge you have to dangerously lean forward or ask the aproaching bikers if they see a green LED light- truly stupid design flaw.
Eighth (the most annoying and stupid): YOU HAVE TO CHARGE IT FROM MAINS FOR SOME 20% BEFORE YOU CAN START CHARGING IT FROM WIND!! Can you imagine how dumb this condition is.. first - there is no way to know how long should i charge it from mains to get the necessary 20%. Then, when i am outdoor and lets say charging the phone - if i use all the juice - the charger will become useless, as there won't be a possibility for another startup charging. Then I have to charge till it is decreased to 20% and use the wind to charge it back. HA! there is now way to know that it is on 20%,10% or 30%... how dumb the design and functioning can be...
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Unbelievable, pal!
I could not stop laughing with tears (sorry for that) with their stupidity! Unbelievable and really ...funny, but sad at the same time.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey,
So I used to have the Titan. Often I would take out the battery and just use the phone without it in *edited* while plugging into the wall, in order to save the battery for later....or to avoid the battery from over heating and shutting down services on the phone.
Pretty simple:
Is there anyway to program the phone to stay on with the battery out *edited* with the wall charger in? Seems like if on the Titan you could do it, here you should be able to as well?
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just because you were high and seeing stars doesnt mean you can operate a phone with no power unless you have a wall charger. although you failed to mention that so this thread should be kaput.
the above reply was almost as bad as the original thread post.
giggly
I definitely should have read over what I was about to post.
anyhow, any solutions?
Mine works just fine without the battery in if I plug it in......... no mod needed??
You do realize that once the battery is completely charged it is no longer charging. Just about EVERYTHING Li-Ion is "smart charged."
The batteries would burst into flames if continuously charged.
I have had a VERY low battery (5% or lower) and plugged into a 500ma power supply (typical USB charger, not HTC factory) and while really taxing the phone (streaming skyfire flash videos back when Hulu worked) and it would only charge the phone 10 percent in about 20 minutes. Sometimes it seemed it wasn't charging at all. The phone is really sucking some current, cellular radio downloading large amounts of data, processor is blazing running skyfire.
Now with the HTC factory charger being a 1000ma (1A) power supply it could obviously supply enough power for the TP at "full demand."
Goes back to the original question.
WHY?
It isn't serving any benefit. Li-Ion does not have a charge "memory" like old NiCd batteries or NiMh. Yes there are a certain amount of charges the battery can take but again, the phone is a smart charger. Once the battery is at full capacity (you want a charged battery right?) it no longer is charging. There is no battery degredation occuring.
to simply answer the op and not beat him to death with words, there is an easy answer to the question... no, there is no software to be able to do what you want for 2 reasons. one, there is extreamly low demand for the application. people here don't generally spend a week or 2 making a program to make one person happy. they'll do it for a hundred people though. two, i could be wrong about this reason but i don't believe that the hardware will allow it. it's designed to have the electricity run to the battery first, then the phone draws the energy from the battery for use. to my knowledge the phone doesn't have a way to be able to use the energy from the charging port directly. sorry champ, the only way that you are going to get this done is with an electrical engineering degree, soddering iron, and the circuit blueprints themselves.
to simply correct the poster aboive and still think about beating him to death...
yes it is possible, no you do not need extra software... and yes the hardware supports it... Im sorry I personally don't know how to do [email protected]: But if you post over @ PPCGeeks im sure they'll figure it out for ya.
I know it's possible for two reasons... If your phone is plugged Via USB in the bootloader, you may take the battery out. Also, on a ROM that I had installed previously my phone froze for about 2 mins and the battery was blazing so i took it out... To my surprise it was still on (i was tethering) and working perfectly! ZOMG...I love people who answer unknowingly...
For the person who said the smart remark about the lithium battery, im sure the OP knew that, but requires the phone to work with the battery off after he was done charging it... This would let him tether or do what it is that he needs endlessly without worrying about the battery overheating...
In other words, if you're not here to help, then sthu... Dont ***** about his question, dont insult him... Either help, or move on...
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For the person who said the smart remark about the lithium battery, im sure the OP knew that, but requires the phone to work with the battery off after he was done charging it... This would let him tether or do what it is that he needs endlessly without worrying about the battery overheating...
In other words, if you're not here to help, then sthu... Dont ***** about his question, dont insult him... Either help, or move on...
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Uh, I tell you what there buddy. I'll take your post seriously when you can learn some grammar. For all I know I'm talking to a 12 year old know it all who ALSO doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut.
I WAS offering help, by telling him that there is NO POINT in removing the battery. I implied NO disrespect with my post.
If you are referring to problems with certain software causing the phone to overheat and restart/lock up... again that has NOTHING to do with the battery. For example WMWifiRouter, or streaming high kbps video.
The wifi/cellular radio/processor is what is generating the heat.
If you're not charging the battery (IE battery=100%) then there is NO HEAT GENERATED. The heat is not coming from the battery.
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Uh, I tell you what there buddy. I'll take your post seriously when you can learn some grammar. For all I know I'm talking to a 12 year old know it all who ALSO doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut.
I WAS offering help, by telling him that there is NO POINT in removing the battery. I implied NO disrespect with my post.
If you are referring to problems with certain software causing the phone to overheat and restart/lock up... again that has NOTHING to do with the battery. For example WMWifiRouter, or streaming high kbps video.
The wifi/cellular radio/processor is what is generating the heat.
If you're not charging the battery (IE battery=100%) then there is NO HEAT GENERATED. The heat is not coming from the battery.
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haha yea i know my grammar sucks... its cuz im 11teen...
idiot im an english major... just cuz i like to use ellipses doesnt mean ****.
you have to be the biggest dumbass yet... i just said that if you are tethering your battery will heat up... because you are using the clealluer rdaio for teh bndawthd, in whcih intornet youzes kilobits per second...
haha whatever...
what a poor redneck duck
Double Post...
Ok smartass.
Explain to me how tethering your phone with a charger plugged in and the battery already being charged causes the battery to heat up.
Think long and hard about your answer. Go ahead and post with your "mAd tyt3 h4x tyP1ng s|<Illz DAWG!"
I'm a ****ing electrical engineer, with a Masters. Take your poems and books and literature discussion groups and go **** yourself.
Only way that is going to happen is if the phone is consuming more current than the charger can provide.
IE: The phone is consuming 650ma, but a typical USB charger can only supply 500ma. In that case then the even simpler answer is NO you cannot use a charging adapter with no battery plugged in.
If you're a car guy here's an even better analogy.
Your car has an alternator (generates current) and a battery (stores current).
If your car's alternator is rated at 100A, then at a specified RPM your alternator generates 100 amps of current.
However, at idle your alternator may only be generating 40A.
If you're sitting at a traffic light and your headlights are on, heater blower fan is going, window wipers are on, heated seats are on... you're consuming more power than the alternator can provide. So the car is pulling current from the battery. The second you leave the traffic light and accelerate and your engine is spinning fast enough that the alternator can generate enough current to supply the demand and charge the battery.
Easy buddies!
We all are here to share knowledge we have to each other right?
Plz. don't let a small thing cause big problems!
Please!!!!
as hippy-rific as navi_mappers statement is, i have to agree with him. people are getting a little too angry about this. it was a simple question. unfortunatly it has been answered in contradictory ways. one thing has remained true in most posts though: there is little reason to do what he was trying to do. i believe that he can take that and walk with it. there's no reason that we (as educated and intelligent people) need to resort to name calling and slander. i'd like to think that we are a little better than that. so shut up, stop *****ing and answer the mans question with intelligence damn it! i'd expect this kind of stupid crap over at crackberry.com, not here.
thanks
Thanks for those that replied in an appropriate way.
yeah,some may need therapy in this thread...
haha yea i was havin a bad week... my bad guys
I know this may sound silly, but I just recieved my samsung galaxy PowerPack.. and I just noticed it doesnt have an ON/OFF switch!
As you know, batteries have a certain number charging cycles, and Im not always in the need for the extra juice of the power pack (but I always neet it as a phone case..)... but the power pack wont let me choose when to use its charge..
SO... im wondering if there is any way I could disable charging in the phone itself, to avoid unnecesarry usage of the power pack...
Thanks guys!
Remove battery pack while keeping the phone plugged in?
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Well that would really beat the point of having a power pack. Because its advantages are that it combines the protection of a case with the versatility of having an extended battery.
If I have to physically remove anything it would beat the purpose.
So my question really goes into the software realms. A line of code or a widget that could serve as an ON/OFF switch to enable disable charging.
It's not exactly an elegant solution, but you could compile your own kernel omitting CONFIG_MAX8922_CHARGER. It might leave you stuck if you forget to switch back to a kernel supporting charging.
See this post for more information.
Okay I got the perfect 3-step solution for your complicated request.
Step 1: Hold the phone
Step 2: Slide the phone OUT of the power pack so that it barely escapes the port.
Step 3: Power on your phone, and be amazed how it is not charging while still in the case!
Congratulations, you disabled charging
But seriously, it's not fun for an average user to poke at hardware or software modifications by themselves, just stick with the simplest.
Jmmm.. I would have to give it a thought to see the workarounds.. but it could be an option.
On another hand... Im reading the power pack manual and it states that charging will be prevented if the temperature is not suitable for operation...
So my best guess is that the temperature that is being read is the one of the battery...
So if there could be a non-flashing method to fool the battery temperature meter and make it think its above the suitable limit.. it could prevent charging...
( I never Overclock my device, so Im not worried about this..)
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Okay I got the perfect 3-step solution for your complicated request.
Step 1: Hold the phone
Step 2: Slide the phone OUT of the power pack so that it barely escapes the port.
Step 3: Power on your phone, and be amazed how it is not charging while still in the case!
Congratulations, you disabled charging
But seriously, it's not fun for an average user to poke at hardware or software modifications by themselves, just stick with the simplest.
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I underestand what you mean, but Im dissapointed that samsung failed to implement such a basic feature as an ON/OFF switch...
I could have opted for one of those oversized internal batteries instead... but its not pretty, nor gives me enough confidence that it will protect my phone as this case does... thats why removing the phone from the pack totally beats its purpose...
I used to own a Mophie power pack for iPod.. and it had a simple on/off switch and was great at protecting the iPod..
Anyway... Im confident someone at this forum could find a workaround for this..
Thanks for the input
Charging
The charging process is both automatic and robust. The Lithium battery can not be overcharged and that is a function of its chemistry because the current self limits as the target voltage is reached. Multiple small top ups has no ill effect at all. The decrease in performance is both a function of time and the total amount of charge going into and out of the battery. A Lithium type battery left of the shelf will even loose 20 to 30% of its potential max charge each year.
Just use the phone as your habits dictate and don't worry about it.
Regards,
John.
You will throw away your phone for a new one before it wears out, don't worry about it.
Well, maybe you could adjust charging power to be at 0 mAh for all sources and back to normal with some app? You would definitely need root, but the question is what app allows that. In voltage control it's possible to put it down to 450 mAh minimum.
solution
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I know this may sound silly, but I just recieved my samsung galaxy PowerPack.. and I just noticed it doesnt have an ON/OFF switch!
As you know, batteries have a certain number charging cycles, and Im not always in the need for the extra juice of the power pack (but I always neet it as a phone case..)... but the power pack wont let me choose when to use its charge..
SO... im wondering if there is any way I could disable charging in the phone itself, to avoid unnecesarry usage of the power pack...
Thanks guys!
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hey guyz!!!
i got a solution to this problem. its very simple.. just take a very thin plastic cut it and place it between phone and power pack charging jack.. now plastic wont allow phone to charge.. and when u need power pack just remove the plastic.
Anyone find a charger that can actually charge the phone while using the GPS? I have a modified charger with the center pins tacked together and the Samsung genuine car charger, neither of which can keep up with the drain.
Anyone have positive evidence that their charging solution will at least maintain battery life while GPS + screen are running?
I'm at a loss and tired of spending money on chargers that aren't up to the task.
Thank you.
I have the Samsung car mount that comes with a Samsung car charger. Not sure if that's the same charger you have, but I've used it on a road trip so far and it definitely maintains and charges a little. 14 hours of driving btw.
I attempted to call Samsung Accessory support this morning to find out if that charger is different than the basic charger and they were giving me the run around. I didn't want to spend $XX on another charger unless I knew it had a higher output.
Can you give me the spec's on it?
I know the basic samsung charger only puts out 750mA.
I have used numerous chargers in the car while running GPS and none of them actually seem to charge the device; they just keep it "treading water".
Truth is, with the screen size being what it is, and likely both cores firing at full capacity, I don't think it's entirely realistic to expect the thing to charge while doing something so data intensive as GPS; especially, when you consider that your data signal can and will vary WILDLY while driving through different places, which absolutely and invariably will stress the battery even further, contributing to drain whether plugged in or not. That's a lot of work for a relatively small device to handle.
Just my $.02 coming from a mix of experience and common sense.
-Ryan
Guy above you says that his does.
Hell, I'd be happy with treading water, way better than the steep downhill fall I've got going on.
Can limit processor speed by throttling it manually with my OC kernel or by enabling the saving mode the phone has innately. Can reduce data by switching off 4G.
It doesn't need those things to run as a GPS. The GPS itself doesn't seem to eat much battery at all but I realize the screen is huge. However, how can this be a viable device if we can't figure out a way to make it WORK?
I hope that camaroz28 can get back to me on this.
fellstar said:
I attempted to call Samsung Accessory support this morning to find out if that charger is different than the basic charger and they were giving me the run around. I didn't want to spend $XX on another charger unless I knew it had a higher output.
Can you give me the spec's on it?
I know the basic samsung charger only puts out 750mA.
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There is no writing on it at all so I have no idea what it's output current is.
As an aside, I've heard of a lot of people just getting a small DC->AC converter and then using the original wall charge adapter to charge in the car.
There are two very good posts about this very topic.
This one recommends a charger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538341
It also has a link in the OP to the other post about charging the Note.
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There is no writing on it at all so I have no idea what it's output current is.
As an aside, I've heard of a lot of people just getting a small DC->AC converter and then using the original wall charge adapter to charge in the car.
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You can confirm that your phone will charge, albeit slowly, with the provided adapter that comes with the Nav mount?
I'm not a big fan out DC to AC car adapters.
lactardjosh said:
There are two very good posts about this very topic.
This one recommends a charger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538341
It also has a link in the OP to the other post about charging the Note.
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Only did a couple quick searches for "GPS Charging" before making this thread, and didn't find that one!
Thank you guys.
fellstar said:
You can confirm that your phone will charge, albeit slowly, with the provided adapter that comes with the Nav mount?
I'm not a big fan out DC to AC car adapters.
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Yes, after driving for 7 hours, my batter went from something like 52% to 60%. Don't remember the exact numbers, but it went up. This was while switching between google navigation and an app called "GPS HUD" with Pandora running in the background. Data was mostly HSPA/HSPA+ except for the beginning and end of the trip where I was in LTE cities.
camaroz28 said:
Yes, after driving for 7 hours, my batter went from something like 52% to 60%. Don't remember the exact numbers, but it went up. This was while switching between google navigation and an app called "GPS HUD" with Pandora running in the background. Data was mostly HSPA/HSPA+ except for the beginning and end of the trip where I was in LTE cities.
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Thanks again Camaroz28.
Maintain a fully charged spare battery in auto
Tried about every auto charging fix I could find on this forum. Still get about 2% per hour discharge. I'm routinely in and out of my car 8-10 hours a day so end up with a dead battery. My fix (not elegant but works) is to maintain a fully charged spare battery in my van using a charger for extra batteries.
Of course could not do this with my iphone which is now relegated to my grandkids for games and music.
I love this forum. Great help to me.
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Tried about every auto charging fix I could find on this forum. Still get about 2% per hour discharge. I'm routinely in and out of my car 8-10 hours a day so end up with a dead battery. My fix (not elegant but works) is to maintain a fully charged spare battery in my van using a charger for extra batteries.
Of course could not do this with my iphone which is now relegated to my grandkids for games and music.
I love this forum. Great help to me.
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Same, I actually have 3 spare batteries and a spare battery charger. I don't want to have to fool with changing my battery in the car though. I've already ordered the charger from the other thread, should have it by Saturday to try that puppy out.
I'm an engineer, and I travel quite a bit.
The GPS software you use makes a huge difference. If you want the phone to charge, don't use Waze. During a test one day, Waze plugged in drained more battery than Navigon did while unplugged. Mine charges with Navigon and Pandora running simultaneously. I haven't tested Google Navigation yet, I'm going to do that today. The charger I use is a 2.1A Belkin AutoCharger made for iPhones. I'm using a USB extension cable with manually shorted data pins. I get 800-something mA out of it, unfortunately not the full 1000 the stock wall charger puts out. Running an inverter in the car with the stock charger I can get Waze to charge, but that's just not worth it for me. Too much gear in the just to charge a phone.
Hi,
I've received Desire X from friend who couldn't start it.
I've revived the battery (before buying new battery if thats the problem) using 9V battery.
now its alive, however the second I plug it in the flashlight automatically starts.
I've tried with other HTC battery that fits and same voltage and still flash turns on, even without powering the phone.
Any Idea ?
Seriously, you used 9V battery on device which use 3,8V ?
Are you mad!?
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Seriously, you used 9V battery on device which use 3,8V ?
Are you mad!?
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Mad? No.
However I am electronics engineer.
And the battery now works, I'm sure it's not for long.
To the point, what may cause the flash to be always on?
Chura said:
Mad? No.
However I am electronics engineer.
And the battery now works, I'm sure it's not for long.
To the point, what may cause the flash to be always on?
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Because you dont use the right battery
Oh sorry but that make me laugh so hard...You say u are engineer but...Agreed with @GtrCraft.Wrong battery can do some strange problems.
I sort of agree with OP. You probably shouldn't have recharged the battery with a 9V, another HTC device should be enough. You might have shorted something inside the phone, so now it's ****ed up.
Sent either from my potato phone, or my Nexus 7.
Stereo8 said:
I sort of agree with OP. You probably shouldn't have recharged the battery with a 9V, another HTC device should be enough. You might have shorted something inside the phone, so now it's ****ed up.
Sent either from my potato phone, or my Nexus 7.
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The battery labeled 3.7v, while the 9v revive got the battery to 3.32v only.
I don't agree with possible damage to the phone since lower voltage can't do that.
However it is possible that due to lower input level it cause the phone to mis-behave on this specific battery.
Thanks, I'll try to find new one.
Here is a story about overvoltage a battery.
You can try to revive a dead battery by overvoltage it and you can obtain some result for some short time. I tried this many times with batteries/accumulators of different voltages but you must understand this:
1. NEVER apply this with battery in circuit or mounted on device, battery must be unconnected,
2. This method is the begining of the end of batt/acc, after one or two revivals you can throw it away,
3. You can try this ONLY if you must test a device with a DEFECTIVE or old battery. After a short impuls of overvoltage sometimes the battery can deliver enough power to test some things.
I understand, and exactly what I did.
I've verified the phone starts and now I've ordered new battery.