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Hi everyone,
I'm going to be writing a review when the SGSII comes out for the Clove blog, interested to know what questions everyone has for the review, and what they want to see demoed on video.
Let me know and I'll try to get through everyones questions in the review.
Will be a slightly different slant on the review than places like Engadget, in that I'll actually be using the phone as my fulltime handset, so if things like the GPS are amiss I should be far less likely to miss it than those reviews (real user feedback as it were).
Great news! Here are a couple of things I'd like to know:
1) Battery. How much does it last under different circumstances? So, WiFi on/off, NFC on/off, display brightness and so on. I know that making all possible combinations between all these options is impossible, however at least something indicative of how long the battery lasts in day-to-day use would be nice.
2) Heat. Does it really get so hot?
3) Graphics performance. Can you play Tegra 2 games on it? How well do they play and what are the graphics abilities of the device (so far we saw sub-par graphics benchmarks which were most likely due to the drivers so it'd be interesting to see whether anything has been done with that)?
Thank you in advance.
Thanks for your questions, gaming and battery life will definitely be covered (I'm also interested to know whether the Tegra Zone games will run on it, that said for all I know the first ones to ship could be Tegra based anyways), good question about how much the device heats up.
I'm mostly interested in general performance, such as browsing speed, flash speed, installing apps, (especially multiple updates on the market) any lag anywhere etc.
Also talk about the screen, would be nice to see it compared in depth with a SGS.
Also any chance you could install a 3rd party launcher and compare overall speed/lag/features etc with TouchWiz?
first and foremost i'd like to know when you will be getting the device.
do you have anything more specific than mid-late march?
Use it for more than 30 seconds, like the SGS reviewers didn't. Otherwise they might have noticed the lag, gps, etc.
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BoostedSR20 said:
I'm mostly interested in general performance, such as browsing speed, flash speed, installing apps, (especially multiple updates on the market) any lag anywhere etc.
Also talk about the screen, would be nice to see it compared in depth with a SGS.
Also any chance you could install a 3rd party launcher and compare overall speed/lag/features etc with TouchWiz?
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Will cover that indepth. Will be doing a screen comparison with first and second gen AMOLED screens (HTC Desire, SGS1), and also iPhone 4.
I'm a LauncherPro user, so will also be using that in the review and comparing to TW.
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first and foremost i'd like to know when you will be getting the device.
do you have anything more specific than mid-late march?
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I don't know anything more than you guys yet, will post anything I hear about release date/expected delivery of stock as I become aware of it.
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Use it for more than 30 seconds, like the SGS reviewers didn't. Otherwise they might have noticed the lag, gps, etc.
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This is going to be my new phone, I'm purchasing it from them, rather than being supplied it for review, so this won't be a review written after a days use like you'll see at lots of places. It will be my day to day phone, and I'll release the review in installments as I feel able to get a solid feel for the aspects I'm reporting on. The last part will probably be a couple of weeks down the line from release, and that will be the one that will be able to give much better feedback on things like battery life, performance under higher loads etc. If you guys have particular suggestions for some good stress tests for performance let me know.
Camera performance would be nice. eg. details, contrast, noise levels, features, how long it takes to process a picture, artifacts.
Camcorder also. Say look out for stuttering in videos, reproduction of frames.
As stated above, a thorough test of the phone's performance for lag or any inconveniences in performance.
Sound/Speaker quality and its volume levels.
UI/UX interface. Eg. is it polished like HTC sense, or as functional
I guess check for if all its features are working. Eg. wifi, GPS, NFC, MHL
A review of the battery life would be nice, however i think I already know the answer to that, since it only has 1650mAh/1500mAh
That's all i can think of for now.
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Also I noticed in the blog how clove wants users to discuss the price of the Galaxy S II. Just wondering, and understandable if you do not wish to answer, but, is the reason you wish to discuss is to also discuss with samsung the huge price for the galaxy s II so as to negotiate a price drop? Or is it simply for some healthy discussion?
The review will be my first piece for the blog, so I have no inside information on the discussion of the price that is currently running, and the motivation behind it.
Currently testing out RMAA software on my PC, but looks like I should be able to give good objective feedback about sound quality.
did you volunteer to review it? how come they chosen you? why will you do it?
Which 3G bands does it in fact have? Clove lists only 900/2100. Other sites list quad-band 3G. It's possible there's a Euro and International variant...
How many SGS2 forums do you post to? Is that a valid question?
I want lots of 1080p video test runs. Try flinging it into the air with the red button flashing. Doubles as a drop test.
Link to blog?
I need to know whether it can RECORD CALLS (both incoming and outgoing, real-time without beeps). Thanks!
1080p video performance in various light conditions. open up heaps of programs and see if the general phone performance is still smooth. thanks in advance
EDIT: If you can, find out what the deal is with the exynos/tegra 2 versions of the phone
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How many SGS2 forums do you post to? Is that a valid question?
I want lots of 1080p video test runs. Try flinging it into the air with the red button flashing. Doubles as a drop test.
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I post to quite a few mobile sites
Did I miss any?
Can you give us the link to the blog?
When will the review be availeble?
omg just google ''clove blog''
i thought xda forum members... oh forget it...
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omg just google ''clove blog''
i thought xda forum members... oh forget it...
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Thanks for your nice reply
How is the music quality through headphones, I understood that it was crap with the LG O2X so I really want to know with this device
Hi,
I was planning to buy this device. Can someone give me their feedback about the battery life. (Not comparisons to other devices)
If someone can tell me the following, it would be great
-How many hours of music playback (I intend to use bluetooth headset)
-How many hours of video?
-How many hours of internet browsing
Just approximate values should do. Thanks
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Hi,
I was planning to buy this device. Can someone give me their feedback about the battery life. (Not comparisons to other devices)
If someone can tell me the following, it would be great
-How many hours of music playback (I intend to use bluetooth headset)
-How many hours of video?
-How many hours of internet browsing
Just approximate values should do. Thanks
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Hi,
1. Music playback I have not tried so do not know.
2. Video - I watch movies and stuff at a stretch for 6-7 hours with a 60-75% volume and brightness of around 25-30% of maximum.
3. Internet browsing again have not checked. But I am guessing it would vary with if WiFi or sim data. I am guessing this also would be around 6-7hours. Maybe some1 else who has tried can tell you about this.
As far as general everyday use goes, I use it for reading ebooks, watching around 2-3hours of videos /day and browsing net via WiFi for about 30-45min/day. With this usage, I the battery lasts me for 12-15hours of active usage with the brightness set to a level of 20% of maximum - sufficient for indoor use. Of course, while on video, the in app brightness is set to higher.
hope this helps. And it is a wonderful device but a bit pricy - but then again its worth it.
One of my colleagues said that his Galaxy tab easily does upto 10 hrs of Browsing on wifi... But thats probably coz of a lower frequency cpu. Now am confused if I should look at the Galaxy as an alternative, especially since its $125 cheaper
Still, I thought that an under-clocked Jetstream ROM can help me get similar battery life, with an option to go back to stock if I ever wanted to.
What say? Is it worth those $125 extra?
I have used the galaxy tab briefly. I definitely like the Jetstream way better. But it depends on you-my main usage on Jetstream has to do with the scribe pen and tons of ebooks. The ability to seemlessly annotate and underline, highlight in the native PDF viewer plus the notes app which is replaced by quill is just as close to brilliant as could be.
10 hours on WiFi only possible I think. I said 6-7hours for a mix of mobile data and WiFi. But as I said I have not tried so do not know for sure.
In any case, the sound is surely better, processor surely ahead. So if 125 is not too much a burden I would surely suggest Jetstream. However, a word of caution. It is likely that customization may be delayed with the Jetstream due to it being relatively newer and a slightly more expensive tab compared to the Galaxy Tab. ICS may see Galaxy Tab a good time earlier compared to Jetstream. There is a Doom Kernel which allows for system mods provided by the person who gave us root-DoomLord. You can under/over clock with that. So think it over before you invest. Tried giving honest overview of the pros and cons from Jetstream point of view. Hope it will help you decide and hope to see 1 more proud Jetstream owner.
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I use my HTC Jetstream daily for work, especially because I use the stylus pen everyday to take notes, mark up PDF's, etc... I have no problem getting all day battery life using my Jetstream.
What I have done is, I have the Jetsream in airplane mode, then I have switched the WiFi on, and seems to give me an extra hour of battery life. I tested once on a weekend where I used the Jetstream all day and lasted about 12 hours. This was browsing, email and watching some YouTube.
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Hey guys with the new note 2 coming out Ive decided that its time to take advantage of the price drop on the note. I just have a few quick questions. I use my phone a lot for project management. I use a cloud based system and there is a lot of file swapping and chatting done from the web app itself. Will the note be suitable for 6+ hours of screen time with wifi or 3g use?
I will also be doing a lot of reading and editing of pdf files. Is it possible to edit a pdf through foxit on my pc and to upload it and edit it some more from the note? (While retaining the foxit edits). The ability to edit pdfs is one of the things that hooked me in .
On a corollary is it possble to say read a kindle or pdf while taking notes onwith the spen and importing it to some sort of word program? Or are those sorts of multitasking feats available only on the s2?
lastly is video conferencing as good as they say on this thing? Can you actually use this for business calls? Is it actually skype OK?
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No chance of 6 hours screen on time. Most of us are getting 4 hours. With the kind amount of work your looking to do I'd highly advise getting a tablet.
joey jeremiah said:
Hey guys with the new note 2 coming out Ive decided that its time to take advantage of the price drop on the note. I just have a few quick questions. I use my phone a lot for project management. I use a cloud based system and there is a lot of file swapping and chatting done from the web app itself. Will the note be suitable for 6+ hours of screen time with wifi or 3g use?
I will also be doing a lot of reading and editing of pdf files. Is it possible to edit a pdf through foxit on my pc and to upload it and edit it some more from the note? (While retaining the foxit edits). The ability to edit pdfs is one of the things that hooked me in .
On a corollary is it possble to say read a kindle or pdf while taking notes onwith the spen and importing it to some sort of word program? Or are those sorts of multitasking feats available only on the s2?
lastly is video conferencing as good as they say on this thing? Can you actually use this for business calls? Is it actually skype OK?
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Adjust your thread title to include your question as the Moderator asked...
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6 plus hours of screen time is not realistic for this device, without the use of an extended battery...otherwise, the device is fully capable of performing the tasks that you have described...(normal screen on times average 3-4 hours maximum due to the larger display, and it's power consumption.)
You will of course have to tweak some aspects of the device just like any other to get it optimized for your particular usage habits, but again, the device is fully capable.....g
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6 plus hours of screen time is not realistic for this device, without the use of an extended battery...otherwise, the device is fully capable of performing the tasks that you have described...(normal screen on times average 3-4 hours maximum due to the larger display, and it's power consumption.)
You will of course have to tweak some aspects of the device just like any other to get it optimized for your particular usage habits, but again, the device is fully capable.....g
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Well that's disappointing. I was hoping that it would replace the tablet all together. The only reason I would hold out for a note2 is its potential battery life. I reaaallly hate having to carry crap around with me.
And ironically I posted this thread on my Nexus S, that's exactly why I don't post on forums from my current phone. It's so difficult at times.
The note 2 should offer the same in battery life as the battery is a modest improvement and given the difference in screen sizes I don't see the user not needing a bigger battery to provide the screen time that you seek.
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I've read a lot of the original reviews and a fair amount of the postings here, but have to say I'm just not convinced the Fit is a fully working product.
I was intending to use it during workouts in conjunction with either an S5 or Tab S, my workouts consist mainly of rowing on an erg (Concept 2), some weights for tone rather then strength building and some step/hand cycling for stamina.
From what I've read the step counter just isn't even close to accurate and the heart rate monitor is pretty rubbish (I realise that the unit won't capture the exercise I am doing) I like to keep my heart rate in a zone range while doing each exercise. Also transferring the data collected to the phone/Tab apps seems to be a dogs dinner.
Is this even now a 'finished' product with the later firmware releases or is it still an incomplete idea they wanted to 'live test' in the market?
Thanks in advance.
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I've read a lot of the original reviews and a fair amount of the postings here, but have to say I'm just not convinced the Fit is a fully working product.
I was intending to use it during workouts in conjunction with either an S5 or Tab S, my workouts consist mainly of rowing on an erg (Concept 2), some weights for tone rather then strength building and some step/hand cycling for stamina.
From what I've read the step counter just isn't even close to accurate and the heart rate monitor is pretty rubbish (I realise that the unit won't capture the exercise I am doing) I like to keep my heart rate in a zone range while doing each exercise. Also transferring the data collected to the phone/Tab apps seems to be a dogs dinner.
Is this even now a 'finished' product with the later firmware releases or is it still an incomplete idea they wanted to 'live test' in the market?
Thanks in advance.
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Wow, 24 hours later almost 100 views and not one reply telling me I'm wrong.
Seems that the Fit is an interesting device from a technical perspective but functionally a failure, how sad.
pinsb said:
Wow, 24 hours later almost 100 views and not one reply telling me I'm wrong.
Seems that the Fit is an interesting device from a technical perspective but functionally a failure, how sad.
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It seems like the Fit works fine with Samsung phones on stock samsung ROMS, except for on Lollipop. It is currently not supported on Lollipop. There are some semi-working solutions for using it on lollipop, but none are full-featured to my knowledge. I don't own a Samsung phone, but that is what I've gathered from reading on these forums. I am currently using it with a Nexus 5 on an AOSP-based ROM. Most things work, but syncing with samsung's SHealth app does not currently work. I received this device as a gift, so have tried to make it work with what I have. If I were buying something, I would probably go for a device that supports Android Wear, since the app selection on this thing is quite limited.
Greetings, all. Despite all the hype around the Apple Watch and Android Wear, I decided to get a Gear S. It is being delivered today. I have an LG G Watch, but I'm not terribly fond of it and I think the Apple Watch is an overpriced toy.
The Gear S seemed a better fit for me. I'm a fan of big watches and it seems much more functional than Android Wear.
That said, I have a few reservations and I'm hoping the community can put my mind at ease. I don't have it in my hand yet, so I can't look at the app store, so forgive me:
With the screen always on, how long will the battery last?- This is how I use my smartwatches. If I can't glance at the screen to see the time without jerking my wrist around, it's no good to me. I also ride a Harley and can't really afford to be required to make a wrist gesture to see the time.
Is there any kind of Shazam or Soundhound app? I know this seems frivalous, but I saw they had Shazam for the apple watch and it occurred to me how cool that would be.
Which apps do you use the most? Any good ones I should look for immediately?
Do you think it has any kind of future? It seems like it has already been forgotten. The Tizen store is stagnant and Apple and Android Wear seem to be stealing all the spotlight. Am I buying a product that is already obsolete?
Thanks. Just trying to convince myself that I made the right choice. I can return it, of course, but it seems like the best option for me right now.
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Greetings, all. Despite all the hype around the Apple Watch and Android Wear, I decided to get a Gear S. It is being delivered today. I have an LG G Watch, but I'm not terribly fond of it and I think the Apple Watch is an overpriced toy.
The Gear S seemed a better fit for me. I'm a fan of big watches and it seems much more functional than Android Wear.
That said, I have a few reservations and I'm hoping the community can put my mind at ease. I don't have it in my hand yet, so I can't look at the app store, so forgive me:
With the screen always on, how long will the battery last?- This is how I use my smartwatches. If I can't glance at the screen to see the time without jerking my wrist around, it's no good to me. I also ride a Harley and can't really afford to be required to make a wrist gesture to see the time.
Is there any kind of Shazam or Soundhound app? I know this seems frivalous, but I saw they had Shazam for the apple watch and it occurred to me how cool that would be.
Which apps do you use the most? Any good ones I should look for immediately?
Do you think it has any kind of future? It seems like it has already been forgotten. The Tizen store is stagnant and Apple and Android Wear seem to be stealing all the spotlight. Am I buying a product that is already obsolete?
Thanks. Just trying to convince myself that I made the right choice. I can return it, of course, but it seems like the best option for me right now.
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Totally agree about Apple watch! But regardless of OEM, I prefer the features of the standalone form factor vs the companion. Having its OWN data connection is invaluable at times. The remote feature is amazing and works very well for a first crack at this feature.
1. The wrist/motion sensor works pretty well on the S. Seems to work 9 outa 10 times you turn to look at time. Having the full screen on will cut usage time in half.
2. I personally have not heard or seen an app like SoundHound for Tizen... yet
3. This is a question that varies widely. Having Opera is a must and I've read a lot about people using Milk, Nike and S-health. I like Bullet News and Engadget's apps as well. S-voice makes sending brief texts and emails a breeze. However, what we really could use is an email client app that doesn't require the phone's connection to send/rcv email.
4. The Tizen store IS growing at a very slow pace, I agree. Not sure what is going to happen in the standalone vs companion war in general. But I will say this...before I bought the S, I had the Omate TrueSmart which took my personal phone out of my already bulging pockets and put it on my wrist. This, in itself, was a great technological step. And even though the TS was riddled with problems, I loved it. Now, with the remote connection always on, my personal phone stays at home connected to the Wi-Fi which feeds the incoming notifs to my wrist.
In conclusion, my personal thoughts on the future of wearables is completely dependent on the consumer market and OEM innovation. I think most future watches will all have the option to be standalone. Battery life will continue to be a big hitch and input methods. In addition, Samsung needs to stop trying to create it's own ecosystem and work with what is already here and accepted, now.
Go get your Gear S... You'll love it!!!
Thanks man. I'll find out soon, if UPS ever gets here.
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Just found a hopeful answer to #2; Gearam Music ID I just downloaded but wife asleep so cannot test yet. Says it does what Shazam does. Also..
There are some good ones out there that you can get:
Xenozu Player for Youtube, works well. click on pic to play, and text for info
GearTweet for Twitter, much improved lately
GearGram for Instagram and plays video as well as shows pics
Basic Video Player, load videos to your Gear through PC to play on app
Wearable Widgets, I can use it to control my lights at home that on on my WeMo switches, using WeMo widgets; I can see my outside surveillance cameras using the IP Cam Viewer Basic widget
IPCameraViewer, I can see my indoor home surveillance camera feed through Gear S app
OperaMini for web browsing
Milk music for streaming to my bluetooth headset at the gym, without having to carry my phone.
S Health, I have used very well to track and motivate myself to move and exercise more. I lost 85 lbs. last year and it gets some credit. Program finally much better than it was.
I too hope they push for more, but in the end it will be up the the other companies and developers and they will probably go to Apple due to shear volume of sales alone.
Good luck.
Cheers,
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Just found a hopeful answer to #2; Gearam Music ID I just downloaded but wife asleep so cannot test yet. Says it does what Shazam does. Also..
There are some good ones out there that you can get:
Xenozu Player for Youtube, works well. click on pic to play, and text for info
GearTweet for Twitter, much improved lately
GearGram for Instagram and plays video as well as shows pics
Basic Video Player, load videos to your Gear through PC to play on app
Wearable Widgets, I can use it to control my lights at home that on on my WeMo switches, using WeMo widgets; I can see my outside surveillance cameras using the IP Cam Viewer Basic widget
IPCameraViewer, I can see my indoor home surveillance camera feed through Gear S app
OperaMini for web browsing
Milk music for streaming to my bluetooth headset at the gym, without having to carry my phone.
S Health, I have used very well to track and motivate myself to move and exercise more. I lost 85 lbs. last year and it gets some credit. Program finally much better than it was.
I too hope they push for more, but in the end it will be up the the other companies and developers and they will probably go to Apple due to shear volume of sales alone.
Good luck.
Cheers,
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Ah, thank you for that. I will check out Gearam. I wish IPCamviewer worked with dropcams, but I don't think it does.
I can't download Opera Mini, for some reason. It simply doesn't show up for me in the store. I am in the U.S. on AT&T, but I do have the International model of the GS6. Maybe that's why? Either way, it sucks. I was really looking forward to that one.
Edit: Dammit. Gearam doesn't show up for me, either. If it does have to do with my International model of the GS6, I wish there was a way to spoof my ID for the store.
Try Doreso Music Radar. That is a Shazam like app.
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Ah, thank you for that. I will check out Gearam. I wish IPCamviewer worked with dropcams, but I don't think it does.
I can't download Opera Mini, for some reason. It simply doesn't show up for me in the store. I am in the U.S. on AT&T, but I do have the International model of the GS6. Maybe that's why? Either way, it sucks. I was really looking forward to that one.
Edit: Dammit. Gearam doesn't show up for me, either. If it does have to do with my International model of the GS6, I wish there was a way to spoof my ID for the store.
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Really Sorry to hear of issues, as I confirm now that GEARAM Music ID works very well. Just found 5 out of five that I played off my phone.
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Really Sorry to hear of issues, as I confirm now that GEARAM Music ID works very well. Just found 5 out of five that I played off my phone.
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Dammit. I wish I could figure out why apps aren't showing for me.
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1. I don't see any point of using screen always on. It just eats up alot of battery and it's useless. Better choose wake up gesture.
2. Yes it is. The best is Gearam Music ID
3. Some cool apps i use:
XENOZU - you can watch youtube;
Instant Settings - Control your phone wifi , 3g etc.;
Calculator ; GearGram Instagram ; Opera - a must have and My notes
4. Samsung has done a very good job with smartwatches. They are the no 1 vendor. The tizen store it's stronger than Android Wear and Apple in my oppinion , the real problem is the official developers have no interest in developing apps. And individual developers ask for money. Believe me. You made the right choose. I've used the Moto 360, Gear 1,Gear 2,LG G Watch R. I tested the Apple Watch too, it's a bull****. Now i own a Gear S and i think it's the best on the market.
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1. I don't see any point of using screen always on. It just eats up alot of battery and it's useless. Better choose wake up gesture.
2. Yes it is. The best is Gearam Music ID
3. Some cool apps i use:
XENOZU - you can watch youtube;
Instant Settings - Control your phone wifi , 3g etc.;
Calculator ; GearGram Instagram ; Opera - a must have and My notes
4. Samsung has done a very good job with smartwatches. They are the no 1 vendor. The tizen store it's stronger than Android Wear and Apple in my oppinion , the real problem is the official developers have no interest in developing apps. And individual developers ask for money. Believe me. You made the right choose. I've used the Moto 360, Gear 1,Gear 2,LG G Watch R. I tested the Apple Watch too, it's a bull****. Now i own a Gear S and i think it's the best on the market.
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I don't see the point in NOT using always on mode. It is a watch, after all. Pretty useless if you can't see the time.
Wanted to give my feedback for your first and fourth question.
Since I had a Pebble before the Gear S, a screen that is always on is very useful. After all, the primary function of a watch is to give you time. Having the screen always on hasn't really impacted my battery life. On average, My Gear S loses about 3.1% - 3.5% battery life every hour with my screen always on. Since my screen is always on, I leave all motion gestures off. With the screen always on, I can easily get a full day of use. Throughout the day, I usually get 3-4 email notifications per hour, 2 text messages per hour, reminders from S-health to take a walk, approximately 2-4 calls, and random social media notifications. On days when I'm going out for a run, my batter life drops quick mainly because of S-health and the heart rate monitor. Even if I'm going for a run, getting a full day of use with the screen on is an easy task.
I'm sure that the Gear S has a future. There are other smart watch platforms such as Pebble, Android Wear, and Apple Watch, but these are just companion devices. To me, the other platforms are very good at telling you that you need to look at your phone. I like to think of other smart watches as handcuffing you to your phone. You really can't do much with the other smart watches without a phone. Tizen/Gear S really shines with stand alone features. The problem is with getting developers for Tizen. I think most developers don't consider developing for Tizen because the Android and Apple names are so well known. I'm sure if we ask the average person if they know what Tizen is, their response would be "What?"