Now call me ignorant, but I don't really know what these have advantages over others like froyo roms (UKB 2.1) I flashed MIUIWIZ last night and am absolutely loving it but I'm curious to know the pros and cons to each. Can anybody help?
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Now call me ignorant, but I don't really know what these have advantages over others like froyo roms (UKB 2.1) I flashed MIUIWIZ last night and am absolutely loving it but I'm curious to know the pros and cons to each. Can anybody help?
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Well first of all, CM7 and MIUI are AOSP roms. Everything else for the fascinate up to date is based on TouchWiz. TouchWiz is samsung's way of giving us all the shaft. It's samsung's GARBAGE proprietary code. AOSP (android open source project) is pure Google android code. TouchWiz is completely inferior to AOSP in performance, smoothness, speed, battery life, customization etc. etc. The ONLY thing TW has over AOSP is complete functionality. But, even that is about to change once jt1134 or navenedrob get mms working on AOSP. AOSP is simply a better and frankly more enjoyable user experience. But, I give credit to TSM for making TW bearable with their awesome roms and builds.
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In my experience with ComRom2.1 vs the latest cm7, you get better battery life with cm7 and Netflix works. Both are fast and, frankly, I was getting pretty good battery life with ComRom (but not as good as cm7). Even though cm7 is getting more polished, sound still doesn't come out of the Samsung car dock, volume through rear-speaker and ear-speaker is low, and picture messaging doesn't work.
Don't forget that CM7 is also based off of 2.3 gingerbread so you have all of the 2.3 bonuses.
From what I have learned in reading, flashing, testing, and using is that TW is not the mass murderer that many people make it out to be. If you are a developer you will absolutely hate it for many reasons I don't care to understand.
CM7 in its current form (as many have stated) is not complete though the large CM7 gorilla in the room has been exchanged for a small small monkey. MMS is about all that doesn't function correctly which, depending on who you talk to, is not a big deal. Personally I have people mms my email and it works the exact same.
GPS, call volume, and sensors where the CM7 deal breaker for me but with patients we have seen them all disappear. In a few weeks it will be in its early beta stages without a doubt.
So the short version
TouchWiz = Samsungs *****
AOSP = Nobodies *****
Thanks everyone for your input! This has been very helpful. I think I'm going to try out CM7 right now and post my feedback ITT as well. Thanks again for the great breakdown everyone!
*edit* Also, I know this must have been asked a thousand times, but can someone link me to a walkthrough of how to install CM7?
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Thanks everyone for your input! This has been very helpful. I think I'm going to try out CM7 right now and post my feedback ITT as well. Thanks again for the great breakdown everyone!
*edit* Also, I know this must have been asked a thousand times, but can someone link me to a walkthrough of how to install CM7?
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Installing cm7 is the normal routine. Go to jt1134's cm7 thread, at the bottom of his post he has attached the proper cwm to use. Install one of those, wipe data/cache/dalvik and then flash the rom. The phone will automatically reboot after flashing it. Once it boots up, boot back into recovery and flash gapps and then reboot. Enjoy!
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Installing cm7 is the normal routine. Go to jt1134's cm7 thread, at the bottom of his post he has attached the proper cwm to use. Install one of those, wipe data/cache/dalvik and then flash the rom. The phone will automatically reboot after flashing it. Once it boots up, boot back into recovery and flash gapps and then reboot. Enjoy!
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Thank you sir! Currently running CM7 and loving it.
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I am new to this site, but hope to root and flash both my Inc. and wife's Eris. So the wife has an Eris and it is starting to screw up. When we got the phones I told her it would never be a Ferrari. Two days ago all the icons disappeared and the phone is so slow. She has threatened me with going out and getting an Iphone. My you know what puckered at the mention of that. This brings me to my question. I would like suggestions on a Rom that has sense and is reasonably peppy. Because this is the wife's phone I do not have the luxury of doing trial and error with different Roms. I am just looking for something that is similar to stock but actually works. I take it that I can find all of the instructions for rooting and flashing in the general section. Your feedback is greatly appreciated, my wallet thanks you too!
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I am new to this site, but hope to root and flash both my Inc. and wife's Eris. So the wife has an Eris and it is starting to screw up. When we got the phones I told it would never be a Ferrari. Two days ago all the icons disappeared and the phone is so slow. She has threatened me with going out and getting an Iphone. My you know what puckered at the mention of that. This brings me to my question. I would like suggestions on a Rom that has sense and is reasonably peppy. Because this is the wife's phone I do not have the luxury of doing trial and error with different Roms. I am just looking for something that is similar to stock but actually works. I take it that I can find all of the instructions for rooting and flashing in the general section. Your feedback is greatly appreciated, my wallet thanks you too!
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xtrSENSE 5.0.1 - there is no comparison! This is by far the best 2.1 ROM out there.
Is there any sense in putting a Froyo Rom on her phone?
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Is there any sense in putting a Froyo Rom on her phone?
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Froyo ROMs are easily customizable, and there are several options for that in the Themes and Apps forum. Froyo has other improvements - for some, however, the seamless integration of Sense features keeps them with 2.1 instead of upgrading to 2.2 or 2.3. You may want to ask her what she looks for in a phone, and use this priority list to determine which ROM to load (e.g. battery life, speed, looks and customization, stability, etc.)
There are several great Froyo options - I'd recommend FroShedYo. And for Gingerbread, I'd recommend GSB (GingerShedBread).
She texts and does e-mail. What she wants most is speed and battery life. Do any of the roms have problems running regular apps (angry birds, weatherbug,yahoo mail) etc.?
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She texts and does e-mail. What she wants most is speed and battery life. Do any of the roms have problems running regular apps (angry birds, weatherbug,yahoo mail) etc.?
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ROM problems with running regular apps seems to be user-specific and not general to a ROM or group of ROMs (i.e. Eclair, Froyo, GB).
For speed and battery life I'd choose either GSB or xtrSENSE. That's just my two cents! You can see from browsing the threads that everyone has their favorites. I've been pleased with the support from the developers of both GSB and xtrSENSE. As I've played with ROMs on my phone I've pulled my wife along (sometimes unwillingly). She's staying with GSB and I'm staying with xtrSENSE.
Happy hunting!
What are the differences between the two?
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ROM problems with running regular apps seems to be user-specific and not general to a ROM or group of ROMs (i.e. Eclair, Froyo, GB).
For speed and battery life I'd choose either GSB or xtrSENSE. That's just my two cents! You can see from browsing the threads that everyone has their favorites. I've been pleased with the support from the developers of both GSB and xtrSENSE. As I've played with ROMs on my phone I've pulled my wife along (sometimes unwillingly). She's staying with GSB and I'm staying with xtrSENSE.
Happy hunting!
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What are the differences between the two?
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First, I +1 xtrSENSE. It just works, and works extremely well.
Second, the difference is that xtrSENSE is very much based on the most recent March OTA official release, which is based on Android 2.1 (Eclair). zach.xtr has customized it so that it overclocks, underclocks, has more internal memory for apps, and more.
All those features are available to Froyo (2.2) and Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs except that they are usually based on CyanogenMod, either v6 which is Froyo-based or v7 which is Gingerbread-based. While CyanogenMod is great, and includes all sorts of bells and whistles beyond even the improvements of Froyo and Gingerbread alone, there is no Sense UI like on the stock-based ROMs like xtrSENSE.
Sense has some features not available to other ROMs for the Eris. Like Flash Lite, which doesn't matter to me, but it does to some. You might get an idea if you read the top of the first post of the xtrSENSE ROM thread of what else is special about Sense.
CM7 (CyanogenMod v7) isn't final yet, so it's still a work in progress and has bugs or "quirks" plus features being added and de-bugged and changed. I don't mind, and a lot of people don't, because I/we (if I may speak for some others) flash every new update; usually at least one per week if not more often.
That said, CM7 has developed very fast, much faster than it seemed like CM6 did. I assume because they were able to take a lot of what they learned from CM6 and apply it to CM7. I suspect that Gingerbread was less of a drastic change from Froyo than Froyo was from Eclair.
But for flashing someone else's phone who's going to have to rely on it day by day, I'd recommend xtrSENSE.
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First, I +1 xtrSENSE. It just works, and works extremely well.
Second, the difference is that xtrSENSE is very much based on the most recent March OTA official release, which is based on Android 2.1 (Eclair). zach.xtr has customized it so that it overclocks, underclocks, has more internal memory for apps, and more.
All those features are available to Froyo (2.2) and Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs except that they are usually based on CyanogenMod, either v6 which is Froyo-based or v7 which is Gingerbread-based. While CyanogenMod is great, and includes all sorts of bells and whistles beyond even the improvements of Froyo and Gingerbread alone, there is no Sense UI like on the stock-based ROMs like xtrSENSE.
Sense has some features not available to other ROMs for the Eris. Like Flash Lite, which doesn't matter to me, but it does to some. You might get an idea if you read the top of the first post of the xtrSENSE ROM thread of what else is special about Sense.
CM7 (CyanogenMod v7) isn't final yet, so it's still a work in progress and has bugs or "quirks" plus features being added and de-bugged and changed. I don't mind, and a lot of people don't, because I/we (if I may speak for some others) flash every new update; usually at least one per week if not more often.
That said, CM7 has developed very fast, much faster than it seemed like CM6 did. I assume because they were able to take a lot of what they learned from CM6 and apply it to CM7. I suspect that Gingerbread was less of a drastic change from Froyo than Froyo was from Eclair.
But for flashing someone else's phone who's going to have to rely on it day by day, I'd recommend xtrSENSE.
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I pretty much agree although I haven't tried xtrSENCE.
I will say this though, and it will be my signature,
(as soon as I figure out how to get it there)
"gsb bringing new meaning to EOL> Extraordinary Operational Longevity"
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I pretty much agree although I haven't tried xtrSENCE.
I will say this though, and it will be my signature,
(as soon as I figure out how to get it there)
"gsb bringing new meaning to EOL> Extraordinary Operational Longevity"
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^ hehehehe...nice!
I used XTRSENSE for a little bit but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for in a rom. That being said, it is extremely reliable and familiar to those who are used to sense. Just be sure to download the Eris Market Fix apk. from the market after flashing the rom, or your wife may have problems with YouTube etc...
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I used XTRSENSE for a little bit but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for in a rom. That being said, it is extremely reliable and familiar to those who are used to sense. Just be sure to download the Eris Market Fix apk. from the market after flashing the rom, or your wife may have problems with YouTube etc...
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I have never had to do that with xtrSENSE or xtrROM.
Wow
Thanks for the great info. I think I will try xtrsense. Hopefully I won't brick her phone.
Tim
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Wow
Thanks for the great info. I think I will try xtrsense. Hopefully I won't brick her phone.
Tim
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Good luck!
Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
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Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
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Well cm7 is gingerbread with an unbelievable GB kernel from the nexus s. It's AOSP as well which is superior in everyway. The only thing that com rom has over cm7 is that it doesn't have the few little annoying bugs that cm7 does. AOSP is pure Google android OS with Cyanogenmod's own custom tweaks added in for performance and customization. Com rom is based on TouchWiz, which is samsung's disgraceful attempt at a codebase, was altered from the original uncut Google AOSP for the sake of financial gain by the proprietor (Samsung). Bottom line, cm7 is a monster of a rom, considered by many to be the best and the elite of all rom's. Com rom is very good in that TSM was able to make it usable. A lot of hard work was pit into it and it's the best TW rom for fascinate.....but it's still touchwiz. Cm7/miui/omfgb/omgb all the way man. Were beginning to do away with TW.
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CM7, and I too used com rom forever, but now I can't go back
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I am going with CM7 to try it out. So far it is insanely smooth and fast. I am about to try out a couple of the kernels to try to find which will work best with my phone.
Thanks for the info all!
Tried CM7 for a couple days, fast and smooth. But went back to ComRom for a couple reasons. First was the camera, the TW camera is just better. Second is video playback. I use my phone as a little TV in bed and the video player and all the other video apps I tried suck compared to the TW video on the ComRom. Another reason was the wifi\3G kept dropping and it wasn't a dealbreaker like the other two but still very annoying.
Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
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IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
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Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
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Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
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Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
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Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
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Well, build 11 isn't that old.. but yeah, the call volume is not as loud as it could be, and the screen won't turn back on once you pull the phone away from your face.. but I had no problems with WiFi tether.. my NookColor running CM7 can see and use the AP..
I just installed the 7/24 version... changelog is not out yet.. hope they fixed even more bugs..
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Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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you must not be looking very hard
I've run both roms, CM7 and the latest ComRom. In everyday use, I can't tell the difference between the two. Honestly. ComRom ran super well, but twice it crashed on me and would only boot to safe mode (where I would endure force-close hell), and I would have a ***** of a time recovering it. After getting fed up with that and no longer trusting ComRom, I switched to CM7.
I haven't really seen the same bugs that other people have. I have no complaints with it on the stock kernel. On the OTB kernel, it was laggy as hell (felt like my roommate's ancient mytouch 3g). On the glitch kernel, it was suuuper smooth, but my battery life was suuuper ****.
So I'm using the stock kernel that comes with CM7. Unfortunately, I got twice the battery life on ComRom (2 days) vs what I get on CM7 (a day if I'm lucky). Of course, YMMV.
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Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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CM7 has MORE themes, just look for CM7 themes /ThemeChooser Here are some
You could always try both for a few days and see how you like them.
I came straight from community rom and no contest. Cm7 is better in literally every way. I especially like the improved GPS and Bluetooth performance. The only drawback Ive seen is its a little too quiet in calls if you're in a particularly loud area. So as long as you aren't a construction worker or a traffic cop, I'd say cm7.
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About CM7 themes: try Android Themes in the Android Development and Hacking forum. You'll find more themes there than a thrift store has used shoes
About call volume - I am running miui 7/22 which has better volume (on its stock kernel) than CM7. The miui theme manager has its own built-in catalog of online themes you can download and apply. Plus, it lets you actually edit your theme, mixing and matching elements from several of your installed themes.
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cool. thanks for the info on themes!
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Cm7 is better in literally every way
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LOL i don't think you meant to use the word Literally.
The sensor doesn't wake the phone when you pull it away from your face! that is literally not better than ANY Froyo ROM or even the sd card eating EC09!
I admit the glitch kernel made it run super smooth, but if you put com rom next to cm7, other than a few skins you really cant tell the two apart.
Like i said the ONLY reason to have CM7 on your phone is to boast you have Gingerbread!
If you disagree that is fine, this is my opinion but i am getting tired of people pumping up CM7, saying it is "hands down the best" when simply it is lacking. It is functional yes but it is maybe 98% functional to any Froyo roms 100% functionality.
I will be very excited to see when CM7 is great, the only thing is all the GREAT devs Left for other phones and i doubt we will see a fantastic GB rom like we did with ComRom's and EF.
Please if you disagree i would love to hear what makes CM7 better than Froyo roms. I would love to hear why everyone is so amped on CM7, I have tried both.
Once again this is only my opinion. PS I LOVE THIS PHONE!
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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I agree 100% try them both and decide for your self
it is all a matter of opinion.
skynet11 said:
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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Actually netflix does work on stock fascinates now.
I really liked cm7 because of it's speed, but that was really it.
Cm7 uses a crappy dialer
Cm7 uses a crappy calendar app
Cm7 doesn't have fully functional proximity sensors
flash only works on the camera not as a flashlight
Camera app is not as good on cm7
Bottom line: I could live with everything but in call audio and proximity sensors. As soon as netflix started working on fascinates I switched back to comm rom 2.1
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Hello guys, can you guys tell me by experience what is the best Gingerbread ROM out there like from 2.3.4 and up? I will like to be up to date. Currently Im testing in love of the Crisis Rom with the Sensation theme but is giving me soft reboots very often.
Im looking for a gingerbread rom that i can customize it with my custom themes..
Im into looks so the rom have to be a nice good looking interface
thanks
I don't see how anyone could over look CM7. CM7 plus Bali = Possibly the Best experience I've had with Android on my Vibrant. Plus it's got support for themes.
Simply stock great speed an battery an comes with good kernel that has all bells an whistles
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If you want themes and customization go with MIUI REVAMPED. Not only is it an amazing rom but the devs are some if the best they answer any and all questions and update every Friday. Miui has hundreds of themes you can download straight from the app and apply within a min
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Simply Honey 5.1 w/ 1.2 SH Talon Kernel. Badass Rom \m/
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Simply Honey 5.1 w/ 1.2 SH Talon Kernel. Badass Rom \m/
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Simply Honey 5.0 w/ 1.2 SH Talon Kernel. I just don't like the new theme and notification bar buttons
i have tried all of those. I stick with the sensation by crysis i think for my likes is the best freaking theme out rhere and the most stable rom i seen other then few soft reboots i get and im working on fixing. You guys should try it. Battery is the best and my GPS locks in 20 secs or less
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Noobie question regarding CM 7
Hi,
I had a quick question regarding Cyanogen 7. I did try parsing through the threads but I'm hoping to get a few questions answered which didn't already find. I just rooted my phone and I'm planning on installing Cyanogen 7. However, before I do, I just wanted to clarify a few things.
1)GPS-I'm told this is fixed but still somewhat buggy. The current froyo stock ROM GPS really isn't all that reliable but it does work. If Cyanogenrom is equal to that, I'll be fine. However, if it's worse, that's a concern for for me. Can anyone give me an answer as to how it compares to the GPS on stock froyo.
2) I currently have most of my apps loaded on SD Card since I have the stock froyo. Will I have to reformat the card after the Cyanogen install or does it even matter?
3) Does the 3 button combo into recovery mode still work? If not, what are my other options?
4)Is Video playback still choppy in certain formats.
5) I've seen some youtube videos where people have installed the Voodoo kernel with Cyanogen and they've eliminated practically all lag issues. Does Cyanogenmod on the Vibrant have any frequent lag issues where the voodoo kernel is necessary?
Again, I apologize if my questions have been addressed before but if someone would be kind enough to help me, I would be grateful.
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If you want themes and customization go with MIUI REVAMPED. Not only is it an amazing rom but the devs are some if the best they answer any and all questions and update every Friday. Miui has hundreds of themes you can download straight from the app and apply within a min
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The only problem with this rom, is that every reboot you have to connect to data which is a technical inconvenience feature unlike the other roms. That rom is not as intuitive like the others. Once you get past that snafu, it does look nice and responds fair. Still has the cm7 / miui bugs and GPS is so so with other 2.3 roms.
the girls phone is still stuck on 2.1 (ew)
im looking for something close to stock that is quick, optimized and up to date if possible.
looking for better battery life as well.
i rooted and installed cwm tonight, so its ready to go.
id prefer to keep it with touchwiz as she likes TW.
any ideas on what to look at as a good rom?
she likes landscape mode to reply to texts and stuff, ive seen how some can be buggy with that, so thats a feature i need to work correctly.
is gingerbread out for this phone?
thanks everyone.
We have CyanogenMod for this phone (2.3.7) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061889
Not an official Gingerbread release.
If you want a 2.2, stock-like but tweaked to run smooth phone, I'd go with Bionix; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925548
Do note, it's sort of outdated, because of a bunch of new stuff that's come out. But it's the closest to stock (In the way things run.) It's just been optimized and it's really responsive. It comes with a gingerbread theme, so that's nice.
And you can always update apps and whatnot, install a newer modem, kernel, etc.
I would suggest trigger 3.2 final it is what i am currently running and i havent had any problems with it
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When it comes to TW roms I found Trigger 3.2 to be very good. Although Bionix is another good choice as well.
However, my favorite rom by far is MIUI. It's based on android 2.3.7 (gingerbread) and CM7. It's super user friendly and one of the best overall built roms I've ever used. Plus it is extremely customizable and smooth. However, it has no app drawer, that's it's flaw. Still you should have your girlfriend look at it and see if she would like it, even though it's not really TW.
Here's a guide to flash it & everything else you'll need to get started... "Guide- Easily Flash MIUI for Vibrant + Themes/Modems/Kernels/ and more!"
Project-V all the way. You won't find a better 2.2 rom
Seeing as its not your phone i wouldn't suggest any 2.3 roms. Even tho they are great and have great devs working on them they still have bugs due to a lack of source code.
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Seeing as its not your phone i wouldn't suggest any 2.3 roms. Even tho they are great and have great devs working on them they still have bugs due to a lack of source code.
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thanks,
yes i prefer not to have any bugs since she isnt really a dev when it comes to stuff and wouldnt know what to do if something started messing up lol.
thanks for the heads up everyone, ill be checking out every rom that was mentioned, perhaps a link included would help me faster access them.
ill show each one to her and see what she prefers.
I ended up with trigger, will let you all know how it goes for her.
she is very happy with how snappy it is, along with the visual voicemail lol
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
Crawshayi said:
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
jbreakfield said:
Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
jbreakfield said:
Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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