So now the evo 3d has been succesfully rooted, could it be possible to get 1080p recording on the EVO 3D??
I would like to know as well.
Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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i think you might speak the truth there is a reason HTC didnt include this, after all.
Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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kpkimmel said:
Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
I agree id rather have smooth recording becore a higher choppy Resolution.
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The o3d does 1080p in 30fps since the firmware update
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193009
I think the sensor may be capable of 1080p @30fps, not completely sure though.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
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Yeah, I could only take 2 weeks of the EVEN WEAKER NS4G radio...I'm back...though SGS2 is still a possibility and the nPrime is for certain.
The 720P has really impressed me so far. I even tried it out at night a few times, including moving it with quick movements in my car, and I didn't see any blurring or chop. I did find out that every so often I might get some chop on playback, but it was due to a hanging app, and restarting the device solved that problem.
Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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The Evo 4G+ Is practically the Evo3d and its got 1080p recording in its release specs..But so did our 3D before release.
I personally don't see the need for 1080p recording,the software sucks and doesn't even do 720p very good.I leave it on qHD resolution.
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Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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I thoughts so
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I posted this in the General: General thread and got no response, I thought since I'm using the Flyer, I should post here and maybe get better results...
Apologies if this is in the Wong thread, but I thought it would best suit my question.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of an Android app to record what's on screen (video & audio)?
I would love to be able to record my webcam time with my daughter, since we live 2,000 miles away from eachother, and it's the only way I get to see her (until I get the custody I'm fighting for)
If anyone knows of something, I'd love to try it! Thanks in advance!
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I think ShootMe and ashot are some apps that allow for screen cast/video capture, although I don't think audio is supported.
As a standard to record playback videos, you need to achieve decent frames per second playback (20-30FPS), which is definitely recommended to watch/record a video smoothly or else you'll end up with choppiness and missing frames.
I don't know if any app that is able to do that, plus not to mention the limited storage space given on the flyer, recording 1024x600 videos might take up a lot of space depending on how long the footage is.
The simpler, hassle-free solution (as of right now) is to buy the tv-out cables and hook it up to a TV and record from there, or use a camcorder/camera..
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I think ShootMe and ashot are some apps that allow for screen cast/video capture, although I don't think audio is supported.
As a standard to record playback videos, you need to achieve decent frames per second playback (20-30FPS), which is definitely recommended to watch/record a video smoothly or else you'll end up with choppiness and missing frames.
I don't know if any app that is able to do that, plus not to mention the limited storage space given on the flyer, recording 1024x600 videos might take up a lot of space depending on how long the footage is.
The simpler, hassle-free solution (as of right now) is to buy the tv-out cables and hook it up to a TV and record from there, or use a camcorder/camera..
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Thanks so much for your help! I hadn't thought of file size, but you're right, an hour on webcam would be a super hefty video file... Guess I'll just try to rig the camcorder.
Thanks again!
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I know this is a gimmick feature, but there seems to be something wrong with the slow motion recording on the One X / EVOLTE; "something wrong" being it limiting the resolution to 480 by whatever. I've verified with a few friends that their Rezound records 720p slow motion just fine. Looks way better than ours, of course.
I know devs went to work with the OG EVO's camera, but this seems to be a simple software limitation that could easily be fixed; I cannot imagine the hardware being limited when older generation phones could do it just fine.
I'm seeing modded camera apk's, for both video and camera edits, but I haven't seen much on slow motion. Not even general discussion. Is there really no way to fix the slow motion recording? Or is nobody interested? I use it for skateboarding and sports, so having HD slow-motion would be awesome. I'm inexperienced with both video editing and coding, however, so trying to figure out how to implement this myself has been fruitless.
Hello! I will be updating this thread on video playback capabilities of the Nexus 10, particularly on high-end resolution. The new software update is out and under testing at many sites, as well is it is shipping worldwide, so I'll try to share as many information about the multimedia capabilities of the Nexus 10 as possible, you can help out too. Discussion should cover
- full HD video playback performance, formats, framerates
- stock vs. 3rd party media player apps
- youtube and streaming at fullHD
- tweaks to optimize performance
Video performance test by italia0101
please visit his XDA thread for other excellent videos!
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YouTube 2600k sample:
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HI10P 720p sample file: http://hotfile.com/dl/148950242/e652ee9/
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Still on pre-release, but AndroidCentral points out that background tasks and fullHD video cause some lags, killing those tasks makes it smooth. For me to be able to play properly coded videos water tight on a $500 device is essential, if it fails to do so I have little reason to prefer this over the Nexus7. We shall see results soon.
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Still on pre-release, but AndroidCentral points out that background tasks and fullHD video cause some lags, killing those tasks makes it smooth. For me to be able to play properly coded videos water tight on a $500 device is essential, if it fails to do so I have little reason to prefer this over the Nexus7. We shall see results soon.
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Yeah this kinda does worry me, as a big part of why i'm looking at this is to play movies while a travel, he does say its only with HD rips of blue rays, but would be nice to see if it does it with HD movies downloaded via the playstore etc.
might have to wait to see what happens when people get it in their hands.
Of course there are some 2600k videos too to get the maximum out of the Nexus 10, mostly gaming. Anyone with hands on the device should check this out:
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Of course there are some 2600k videos too to get the maximum out of the Nexus 10, mostly gaming. Anyone with hands on the device should check this out:
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well hopefully this isn't going to be a result of google having to beat the retina, if thats the case then i'd much more want a screen of the 1920x1080 res that is really good, and that the processor isn't running at 100% trying to run.
I'll post some 2560x1440 (not upscaled) clips shortly for folks to check out their new toys, along with same clips in 1080p BD bitrates (35Mbps) for comparison testing.
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I'll post some 2560x1440 (not upscaled) clips shortly for folks to check out their new toys, along with same clips in 1080p BD bitrates (35Mbps) for comparison testing.
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The reviewer said he was trying it on ripped blue rays, does that mean it would be playing a video on 1920x1080 and stretching the image? standard blue ray def is 1920x1080 right?
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Still on pre-release, but AndroidCentral points out that background tasks and fullHD video cause some lags, killing those tasks makes it smooth. For me to be able to play properly coded videos water tight on a $500 device is essential, if it fails to do so I have little reason to prefer this over the Nexus7. We shall see results soon.
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He said he was downloading things in the back. I think a lot of devices lag when you're downloading things.
>The reviewer said he was trying it on ripped blue rays, does that mean it would be playing a video on 1920x1080 and stretching the image? standard blue ray def is 1920x1080 right?
Original BD is 1920x1080 with avg bitrates of 30-35Mbps. Rips can keep the 1080p res or be downscaled, but bitrates are inevitably lower (for smaller size) as they're intended to be downloaded.
Many devices now can handle 1080p of the "rip" (lowered bitrate) variety, but fewer can smoothly play "remuxed" (original BD bitrate) 1080p content. So to say that a device can playback 1080p is relatively meaningless unless the bitrate is specified. Anything from Youtube would not be a good test, since YT stuff are highly compressed (very low bitrate relative to resolution), and fidelity is substantially compromised.
My expectation is that N10 should handle "normal" 1080p rips (10Mbps), given it's the latest-gen SoC, and that video playback is a staple use. I'm more curious about performance with BD-bitrate content, and 1440p content, hence the pending clip uploads. Admittedly, these would be more for curiosity's sake than for practical use--there is no 1440p content, and BD ISOs won't fit through wifi pipes, HT40 or no.
Subscribing as videos are the #1 thing I use tablets for. There was one video posted in the general section last week that takes advantage of the N10's resolution. A quick browse back a few pages and you'll find it in one of the threads talking about the screen
Playing back laggy HD video is a major concern. Not that I would watch movies on it myself but the last thing Google and Samsung needs is more ammo against them. This being the only somewhat major issue though, unlike the fake issues like no SD, plastic construction, and tablet specific apps(the ipad ones really are not that much better than the iphone ones, except games with HD in the title).
That said, my core 2 duo chugs during some streams so i am guessing if it chugs on the PC, Nexus 7, ipad 4, tf700, it will chug on the Nexus 10 and everything else that isn't an i7.
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Playing back laggy HD video is a major concern. Not that I would watch movies on it myself but the last thing Google and Samsung needs is more ammo against them. This being the only somewhat major issue though, unlike the fake issues like no SD, plastic construction, and tablet specific apps(the ipad ones really are not that much better than the iphone ones, except games with HD in the title).
That said, my core 2 duo chugs during some streams so i am guessing if it chugs on the PC, Nexus 7, ipad 4, tf700, it will chug on the Nexus 10 and everything else that isn't an i7.
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What kind of streams are you running against your C2D? I find it hard to believe it's choking on even 1080p 24+ bit-rate streams. Are you on some ancient video card that doesn't have acceleration, thereby forcing your CPU to brute-force the decode?
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What kind of streams are you running against your C2D? I find it hard to believe it's choking on even 1080p 24+ bit-rate streams. Are you on some ancient video card that doesn't have acceleration, thereby forcing your CPU to brute-force the decode?
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My guess it has something to do with my home group connection or wifi connection in general. Playback through a USB drive or internal storage never chugs though. Although some files still have artifacting.
I would be interested in knowing if this can play 10bit MKV files.
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I would be interested in knowing if this can play 10bit MKV files.
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Good lord. So do I.
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Still on pre-release, but AndroidCentral points out that background tasks and fullHD video cause some lags, killing those tasks makes it smooth. For me to be able to play properly coded videos water tight on a $500 device is essential, if it fails to do so I have little reason to prefer this over the Nexus7. We shall see results soon.
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There are many tweaks that can be used to slim down a loaded system, but regarding games & videos, I would set the heapsize to 512m, to start. The next place I would look is swappiness. Usually when running one big app and not task switching, you'd want to increase this so that other processes are cached to virtual memory, freeing ram for your main process. With 2gb ram, though, the opposite might be better, as some apps will periodically wake to check for email, news, chats, etc. In this case I think it would be better to keep those processes in ram so that they don't cause a hit to disk to wake from virtual memory.
In other words, I would definitely try tweaking swappiness, but I don't know which way would be better. I'm going to sub this thread; please post whatever results you experience.
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I would be interested in knowing if this can play 10bit MKV files.
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I'd never heard of a 10bit MKV until you brought it up. So I downloaded a sample to see it.
For what it's worth, I just tried it on my Galaxy Note 2.
The gallery player didn't play it (audio only) but it worked OK with MX Player in software decoding mode.
Since this resolution is so high on this device, is the Nexus 10 the 1st. "ULTRA" high resolution mobile device/tablet? Doesn't ultra start around this resolution or so?
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I'd never heard of a 10bit MKV until you brought it up. So I downloaded a sample to see it.
For what it's worth, I just tried it on my Galaxy Note 2.
The gallery player didn't play it (audio only) but it worked OK with MX Player in software decoding mode.
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Bsplayer is slightly better. Mxplayer will lose audio. But it can get pretty bad even with my note 10.1. Audio n video gets way out of sync.
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Bsplayer is slightly better. Mxplayer will lose audio. But it can get pretty bad even with my note 10.1. Audio n video gets way out of sync.
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I've not had any issues previously using MXplayer. However since this video was animated and in Japanese, it might have been completely out of sync, I have no idea
I'm not knowledgeable in this area but is it possible to develop a camera app completely separate from stock that allows for DSLR like control and save codec change?
The reason I ask is that if the camera's sensor can do 4k resolution then it should see everything in 4:4:4 detail instead of the H.264's 4:2:0
As a film hobbyist I supplement my main gear with my phone camera at times. This phone's camera possibly opens soooo many more avenues for indie and hobbyists. Not so much a samsung gimmick if we can actually put it to good use.
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I'm not knowledgeable in this area but is it possible to develop a camera app completely separate from stock that allows for DSLR like control and save codec change?
The reason I ask is that if the camera's sensor can do 4k resolution then it should see everything in 4:4:4 detail instead of the H.264's 4:2:0
As a film hobbyist I supplement my main gear with my phone camera at times. This phone's camera possibly opens soooo many more avenues for indie and hobbyists. Not so much a samsung gimmick if we can actually put it to good use.
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There are a few guys that specialize in adjusting camera settings and options.
There is a really popular guy over at the lg g2 forums. I would recommend we wait til they come over or ask some of them to check out our camera.
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Is there anyone else knowledgeable in this subject or possibly something new I've not come across?